Comments on: Most Charges Dismissed Against Hutaree Militia Members

By: Atticus

Atticus — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 18:39:14 +0000

Turns out the the SPLC are the conspiracy theorists since there “was no case, no conspiracy.”

SPLC’s main lead conspiracy theorist should be dragged out all over the media and denounced as a fraud and no one should even bother listening to anything the SPLC/Hatewatch on the issue of domestic terror.

By: Joseph

Joseph — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 07:30:41 +0000

@Snorlax what a nice bigoted thing to say!

They were found not guilty. And their weapons were returned. Most of the evidence against them was initiated by the SPLC Hatewatch joke.

You know, the SPLC that praises the bomb-maker Bill Ayers.

By: Snorlax

Snorlax — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:33:00 +0000

That judge must think Hutaree is a cross between a Hootenany and a Jamboree.

Maybe when they start shooting at judges, he’ll change his mind.

By: Marshalldoc

Marshalldoc — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:13:26 +0000

After watching a plethora of black & Muslim men being sent to jail for exceptionally long periods of time (the so-called “terrorism enhancement”) on obviously trumped-up charges, for conspiracies fomented by FBI informants, absent any weapons or explosives not supplied by those same FBI informants, it seemed to me that a groups of white militia wannabes who spontaneously planned to kill policemen, gathered their own collection of military-style arms & explosives, self-trained in guerrilla-style warfare, and other seemingly illegal activities, would be a slam-dunk for conviction of some sort.

Stupid Me!! I forgot… the operative words are “white men”.

By: April

April — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 02:22:33 +0000

Please, let’s not assume hate = insanity or vica versa. To say “That’s crazy” when you disagree with something or someone is okay. Taking it farther is another thing altogether. Bias against the mentally ill only increases with such occlusion of language that’s all too common, and increasingly so. As Roslynn Carter, who’s worked with mental illness for forty years says, every time an incident happens it gets worse for the mentally ill. And those affected by a mental ILLNESS, a brain disease, are much more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators.

As for the pilot, it seems to me he was on a drug, or experiencing PTSD.

By: Bob

Bob — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:11:32 +0000

I learned long ago to avoid checking the final adjudication of my arrests. Administrative errors happen and complete miscarriages of justice do occur. If taken as a personal affront and dwellt upon, it will drive you nutz. LE types serve better if they do [well] their duties and then just move on to the next job.

In the Hutaree Militia instance, extremely serious charges carrying heavy penalties were being considered that should not be regarded cavalierly.

The judge knows, we all do, there can be a large divide between knowing something to be true, and, proving something to be true.

Once the Judge established her carefully cadenced remarks, she would have been remiss to have ruled otherwise. Any other decision would be an adjudication by emotion (‘feelings’)and the inculcation of a personal, albeit well-meaning, sense of justice that would be tantamount to ‘legislating from the bench.’

Though the outcome may not always prove self-satisying [when applied to others], much do I prefer in a free society to have decisions affecting my liberty coldly and factually considered within set parameters and tenants of the law deemed violated.

Herein, I yield the soapbox :)

By: Ruslan Amirkhanov

Ruslan Amirkhanov — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:50:29 +0000

One guy waving a gun screaming in the street isn’t a threat to the US government- but they’d still arrest him.

By: Matt

Matt — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:03:44 +0000

5 armed barely literate people can’t be a serious threat to the US government? Ah shucks!

By: Reynardine

Reynardine — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:43:12 +0000

Anna, do you mean Winston Churchill’s book or what appears to be a fantasy fiction novel?

By: Anna

Anna — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:46:43 +0000

And the reason why I do not believe a shred of that denial that Mark Koernke had nothing to do with Hutaree, is that his son, Ethan Koernke, has been all over Ann Arbor with … well, read for yourself:

http://www.annarbor.com/users/.....erId=29537

Seems, the FBI has internal strife over what to do with militia/Klan members that are part of LE. I have first hand encounters with all that.

I have read Gathering Storm and suggest a re-read of it.

By: Anna

Anna — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:24:14 +0000

“That information “has proven to be utterly false,” the filing says.”

About Korenke.

Why do I and others not believe a shred of that denial.

By: Anna

Anna — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:22:25 +0000

(1) Judge Victoria Roberts is an African American. Interesting.

(2) “The FBI formally opened an investigation into the Hutaree militia in 2008 after two people claimed Webster Township militia member Mark Koernke was one of two leaders of the group, according to a court filing Friday by Todd Shanker of the Federal Defender Office.”

IMO, “We the people” are being set up, again. The FBI can be the greatest Famous But Incompetent sideshow at times, but is this case a slam-dunk “lets screw it up as the results after screwing it up will be even better”.

By: Ruslan Amirkhanov

Ruslan Amirkhanov — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:47:03 +0000

I’ll be a good sport and give the Hutarees who were released some advice to prevent them from getting arrested again.

Guys, if you want to run around pretending your soldiers and giving yourselves code names that sound like Pokemon characters, just trade in the real weapons for airsoft weapons.

By: Gregory

Gregory — Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:58:40 +0000

Ruslan, I guess they were lucky they weren’t caught wearing camouflage hoodies.

By: Ruslan Amirkhanov

Ruslan Amirkhanov — Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:42:30 +0000

Arm yourselves, make threats against the government, all while training in military tactics- no problem!

Be a young black male, get shot, and then you get condemned because you got suspended from school one time.

Post-racial America!

By: Anna

Anna — Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:24:54 +0000

If those militia had posted such back and forth “banterings” on Facebook, Twitter, would it be “more serious”, a crime then? Despite the whimsical protected speech rulings? Were none of their violent banterings found on social media even in private mode? What about on the telephone? There are thousands of cases where such speech from the mouth of of others landed them in jail. Inequality has nothing to do with race, it has to do with how the laws are enforced on one group and not enforced on another. Inustices and inequalities that are killing this country from within is not as much in the streets as it is in the courthouses.

By: Anna

Anna — Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:15:03 +0000

If bantering back and forth about fomenting chaos, killing cops is protected speech in a bar, what about on a bus, on an airplane? On the sidewalk? In the office? By that judge’s standard shouldn’t the JetBlue captain who was locked out of the cockpit be re-instated? Where does this madness end?

By: ModerateMike

ModerateMike — Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:21:45 +0000

I meant “conspiring”.

By: ModerateMike

ModerateMike — Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:16:56 +0000

If the federal government is conspring to lock people up in FEMA concentration camps, Judge Roberts apparently didn’t get the memo.

By: Wayne

Wayne — Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:15:12 +0000

The very idea of killing police officers to somehow ignite a revolution against the government seems kind of far off…

By: Gregory

Gregory — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:58:41 +0000

Damn those activist judges, legislating from the bench! /snark