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Anti-Semitic California Prof Now Attacking Black People With Lies
In one of the more volatile recent periods of racial unrest in this country, some of the most inflammatory incitement is coming from an odd little corner of academia.
An influential, tenured university psychology professor is on the airwaves claiming Trayvon Martin was a “thug,” a “hoodlum” and a drug dealer who was shot while he was suspended from high school after being caught with stolen jewelry and a tool used for “breaking and entering.” California State University, Long Beach, Professor Kevin MacDonald made these and other allegations about the slain teen on David Duke’s nationwide radio program yesterday morning.
MacDonald, who has appeared on the former Klansman’s daily radio show at least five times in the past four weeks, also claimed the “Jewish controlled” media is engaging in intentional “deception” about the unarmed 17-year-old African-American student who was shot and killed by a neighborhood watchman in Sanford, Fla., on Feb. 26. The case has created a national uproar, with thousands of anti-racist demonstrators calling for the arrest of the watchman, George Zimmerman.
“If you look on the media accounts on television they have this photo of Trayvon Martin when he was 14 or 13,” MacDonald complained. “He looks like this little angelic kid. But that’s not the way he looks now. “
“When you see some recent pictures you know he’s much older,” MacDonald continued. “He’s got these, uh, gold-plated teeth, you know, these sort of bling they have, you know, which is sort of a marker of being involved in this sort of rap scene. You know, uh, there’s one photo on Facebook where he’s flashing gang signs and you can see his underwear, you know. He’s got his pants pulled way down. It’s just complete deception to present him as this little angel.”
But the media’s so-called “deception” actually may be MacDonald’s racist delusions. Indeed, most of the statements MacDonald made about Trayvon Martin on David Duke’s radio program yesterday are provably untrue.
Florida law enforcement reported last week that Martin had no juvenile criminal record and Miami-Dade police notified Martin’s high school that the jewelry reportedly found in the teenager’s backpack “did not match any that had been reported stolen.” And the so-called Facebook picture of Martin “flashing gang signs” cited by MacDonald yesterday has been shown to be false as well.
Though we have been reporting on Kevin MacDonald’s anti-Semitic writings and racist advocacy for years, he has significantly ratcheted up his rhetoric online and in public appearances since the Martin slaying. In fact, MacDonald may now be in violation of several CSU faculty regulations.
While many racists have ridiculed the nationwide protests and demonstrations over the Martin shooting, the CSU professor has himself been out protesting. On Mon., Feb. 27, the day after the death of Trayvon Martin, MacDonald was photographed rubbing elbows with tattooed skinheads on the streets of Los Angeles. He and other racists were passing out flyers and protesting the so-called “genocide” of white farmers in South Africa.
MacDonald has also recently become active as a board member and director with the hate group American Third Position. Two weeks ago, he expressed anger at Republicans for failing to keep America a “majority-White [sic] country” in an essay entitled, “The Racialization of American Politics Continues.” He said that “since the Republican Party is incapable of saving itself by adopting policies that would keep America a majority-White country, the long term solution is a third party representing the interests of White America: American Third Position.”
But it’s the Trayvon Martin case that seems to have MacDonald particularly agitated. Last week, on his blog, theoccidentalobserver.net, MacDonald wrote an essay about the Martin case, essentially arguing that the media attention is part of a Jewish conspiracy creating a new “anti-White religion” with a deceptive “narrative of Blacks as innocent victims of Whites.”
“[I]t will be very interesting to see how this all plays out,” Macdonald wrote. “The message of the poor, defenseless Black kid buying Skittles is turning into the thug who was suspended because of drug use at his school and who went out of his way to attack Zimmerman and was pounding his head into the concrete.”
Whites can expect more media-encouraged violent attacks from blacks and other minorities in the future, MacDonald wrote, elaborating this theme in the comments section of the article on his website over the weekend. “Blacks are very aggressive and they feel empowered with one of their own as president and Eric Holder as Attorney General,” he said. “But what we see now is nothing compared to what we can expect in the future when violence against Whites will go unprosecuted, not just ignored by the media.”
An even harsher, more “unplugged” version of the CSU professor’s opinions have been expressed repeatedly on Duke’s radio program over the past few weeks. On March 26, MacDonald told Duke, “Certainly uh, uh, it is the case that, that, that white people have stereotypes of blacks as criminals but it reflects the reality that blacks are crim-,” he said, before catching himself and then saying that black people are “much more likely to be criminals.”
Though MacDonald has appeared on racist Internet radio programs for years he is sounding more angry and animated, almost unhinged, since the Martin shooting. On March 20, for example, Duke had to ask MacDonald to stop rustling papers on his desk during the show while, in a frenetic and agitated stream of rants, MacDonald made several crude statements about Jews.
Jews are secretly making alliances with blacks, Hispanics and Asians, MacDonald said. They’re “making these alliances with other groups and their long-term goal is to displace white power.” From there, MacDonald was on a roll. Agreeing with Duke that “we are all Palestinians now, aren’t we?” MacDonald went on to say that Jews were “super hyper ethnocentric” and “think of all non-Jews as basically sub-human.”
In the racist, neo-Nazi subculture, MacDonald has become a key intellectual with his study of “Jewish evolutionary strategy.” Duke opened up his March 20 radio broadcast by introducing MacDonald as “one of the men I most intellectually admire in the world. A man who I can safely say I learned more about the Jewish question [from] than any other single writer in my lifetime.” Duke was speaking the truth. Hatewatch readers may recall that most of the footnotes featured in Duke’s self-published book Jewish Supremacism appear to have been lifted verbatim from MacDonald’s notorious trilogy of books on “the Jewish question.”
MacDonald may be Duke’s greatest teacher. But it would appear that his extracurricular activities over the past month could be at odds with regulations governing his official teaching at CSU. Although he is a tenured professor, he still is a “public employee” of the university, subject to the CSU Free Speech Handbook, Section V, on “Public Employee Speech,” which specifically prohibits faculty members engaging in “opprobrious, flagrant, insulting, defamatory” speech.
CSU faculty members are also barred from engaging in “incompatible activities,” described as “of a type not befitting the professional dignity of a faculty member, or of a kind which would demean or degrade the individual or the institution.” They cannot engage in “discriminatory behavior, bullying or harassment,” defined as “offensive conduct of an unwelcome nature on the basis of any of the characteristics identified. A hostile environment exists when such conduct unreasonably interferes with an individual’s ability to participate, learn and/or work.”
on April 3rd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Old Mac Donald has a farm, busily defecating in his head.
on April 3rd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Rey,
Eeieei EEEWW!
on April 3rd, 2012 at 4:03 pm
How has his tenure nor been revoked?
on April 3rd, 2012 at 5:16 pm
There are no words to describe how despicable these ideas are! How is it possible for a person to be so full of hate?
on April 3rd, 2012 at 9:09 pm
I would like to point out that the faculty at CSULB have made public statements distancing themselves from MacDonald’s research and politics. You can read those statements on departmental websites in the College of Liberal Arts.
on April 4th, 2012 at 12:08 am
@SeritaTheresa
Tenure is meant to ensure academic freedom, in order to be able to criticize those in power, and to be able to make controversial, unpopular arguments.
In other words, Kevin MacDonald is a perfect example of why tenure was created and why it’s a good thing.
Let a thousand flowers bloom, after all.
on April 4th, 2012 at 3:34 am
Hopefully Kevin McDonald and his inevitable fall from grace (maybe for violating the terms of the employment, or some other reason) will deliver a death blow to movement of academic racists that try to use the universities they work at to build credibility to their bad ideas.
on April 4th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Red, there are certain huge flowers that smell like carrion, in order to attract blowflies as pollinators. They are interesting in conservatories, but no sane human would want one flowering under their bedroom windows on a summer night. (Maybe Vlad the Impaler would have enjoyed it.)
on April 4th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Red, well said. Tenure protects academic freedom period, no matter what the subject.
That being said, bad ideas don’t stand the test of time. I know nothing of Dr. McDonald’s work and have only a passing acquaintance with Evolutionary Psychology, has any of it been peer reviewed when he published?
on April 4th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
For one Dr MacDonald there are literally thousands of neo-Marxist activists occupying academic sinecures where they espouse the ideas of unbridled internationalism, mass non-European immigration, demonize white European identity, and generally promote ideas that are contrary to the interests and long-term survival of western civilization. By any form of objective accounting, their efforts are aimed at and leading to a catastrophic loss of creative, productive human capital and will generate more misery than the world has ever seen. In a free and rational world they should be widely exposed as such. Instead, their promoters are lavished with praises and pats on the back from the media and self-serving politicians, and any form of derision is focussed on those who take a impartial and measured view of the growing problems. Strange.
People don’t have to agree with everything that MacDonald is saying, but in relation to the uniform pap that is offered by the media sanctioned by SPLC and other neo-Marxists, his observations are real eye-openers for what is taking place just outside our field of vision. As such, they are far more important to forming free thinkers and true critics of our reality than what the me-too crowd has to say.
on April 4th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
You wrote “That being said, bad ideas don’t stand the test of time. I know nothing of Dr. McDonald’s work and have only a passing acquaintance with Evolutionary Psychology, has any of it been peer reviewed when he published?”
——
Check his website, he has over 30 published scientific articles (peer reviewed) and many more essays on politics and a couple of books too (non peer reviewed).
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Vita-pc.pdf
on April 4th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
“For one Dr MacDonald there are literally thousands of neo-Marxist activists occupying academic sinecures where they espouse the ideas of unbridled internationalism, mass non-European immigration, demonize white European identity, and generally promote ideas that are contrary to the interests and long-term survival of western civilization.”
That’s quite a statement, Adam. Care to back it up with anything? Apparently, you’re the “free thinker” here, so let’s hear your case.
on April 4th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Adam, that was an unimpressive pile of jargon. D-minus. Try again.
on April 4th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Adam, the reason that stuff is taking place outside our field of vision is that we haven’t taken LSD.
on April 4th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Hey Adam,
Would you mind defining ‘white European identity?’ Because I’ll bet you can’t.
on April 4th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
“keeping an eye on the radical right”? Well we’re keeping an eye on YOU, you howling hebrews. Not sure why you people never seem to learn to fit in until its time for yellow stars and box cars but if that’s what it takes….
on April 4th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Once you succeed in eliminating white men from the faculty at the elite universities, you won’t have as clever a man as McDonald to bother with.
Free African immigration to Israel in the name of diversity!
on April 4th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Adam,
There is no “white European identity” other than in the minds of white American racists.
Anyone who has every actually spent significant time in Europe knows very well that each little European country thinks it is the greatest and despises all of the other little European countries, with very few exceptions.
Their identity is all about their micro-ethnicity. And it is certainly not at all, except for wacky skinheads, about being “white.” They could care less what color their skin happens to be and certainly take no “pride” in it.
Whatever pride Europeans have revolves around their separate tiny micro-cultures.
Do you think a person in the Congo or in Laos ever took pride in their skin color? Same goes for Europe. Only wacky racist Americans think about these things.
And if your goal is to be Nazi, by the way, I hope you’re German, blond, six-foot-plus, and healthy, because the Nazis viewed other whites, probably such as yourself, as inferior.
on April 4th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Noel Ignatiev (Marxist) “abolishing the white race” is “so desirable that some may find it hard to believe” that anyone other than “committed white supremacists” would oppose it”. (White Devils–destroy)
on April 4th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
“espouse the ideas of unbridled internationalism, mass non-European immigration, demonize white European identity, and generally promote ideas that are contrary to the interests and long-term survival of western civilization.”
Oh really? Name them. Also provide some that the media “pats” on the back. Also explain what “neo-Marxist” means and what “Western Civilization” is. If you actually do, you’ll be the first that I’ve seen.
on April 5th, 2012 at 12:15 am
Adam, to put this in the most considered, rational, intellectual way I can, you are full of it. And so is MacDonald
on April 5th, 2012 at 12:45 am
Once you prosecuted people people who lynched blacks. Now you try to keep college professors from engaging in free speech. My, what a change!
How could you more perfectly validate the criticisms of your opponents? The ones who accuse you of being Stalinist? If MacDonalds logic is flawed, then let the world see it for what it is.
on April 5th, 2012 at 3:06 am
I admire Dr. MacDonald for standing up against the massive storm from the jewish establishment. And he is indeed right when he points out that SPLC is a jewish organization, as this Potok-guy makes clear. Keep up the good work Dr. MacDonald, I’m looking forward to your next book!
on April 5th, 2012 at 4:31 am
Deep Ecology said:
I know nothing of Dr. McDonald’s work and have only a passing acquaintance with Evolutionary Psychology, has any of it been peer reviewed when he published?
You can look at MacDonald’s CV here. He’s published a respectable number of articles peer-reviewed journals dedicated to evolutionary psychology, behavior genetics and sociobiology. I don’t think his trilogy of books on Jews were peer-reviewed, though there were a few positive reviews of them published in such journals. Personally I am skeptical of aspects of MacDonald’s theories, particularly his usage of group selection, though I don’t think he is as much of a crank as some of his vocal critics make him out to be. That his work often passes peer-review indicates that many of his colleagues in these fields seem to think he has a decent enough grasp of the science.
on April 5th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Hell, these nutbags should be rounded up and exposed to the nightmare that they try to inflict on others. It makes me sick reading about them.
I can’t believe the bilious, blind hatred, the rancid paranoia, and the abject misanthropy. I wonder if they miss the irony of what they are when they’re spraying their toxic venom everywhere.
I’m disgusted
on April 5th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Jim, who is trying to deny Kevin MacDonald free speech? How is pointing out that MacDonald is a pathological liar an attempt to silence him?
on April 5th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Hmm, sorry for the lack of clarity. It was aimed at MacDonald and his likes- in short racists.
on April 5th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Knuckledragger,
The only time you’ll find me in a cattlecar is when I’m at a railfan meetup. If you attempt to round me up, I will defend myself to the death. And you can quote me on that.
Also, I think your nom de plume is painfully apropos.
on April 5th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Wait… so you people get annoyed when someone argues against the majority, who are clearly wrong and get most of their ideas from the media… yet when Holder aligns himself with all the other blacks, that is fine? So its alright for a black to be proud of being black and and wanting to support blacks, but if a white person wants to do the same, its racist? Just a tad hypocritical.
Why do you think that China is flourishong, Japan is still strong despite some very unfortunate disasters, and multicultural America is floundering??? Here is a hint – Japan and China are filled with people who are very similar to eachother
on April 5th, 2012 at 10:53 am
It’s interesting to me how much time and energy some people spend here arguing that white people don’t have an identity.
Reminds me a lot of a fairly common argument that Israeli right wingers use which is that the Palestinians don’t have any claim to land in Israeli because there’s no such thing as Palestinian identity.
It’s as if denying the existence of a people somehow invalidates their arguments. Pretty nasty stuff.
on April 5th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Oh look we got some more visitors from Stormfront with their canned arguments. That’s all well and good, since Adam couldn’t answer my questions about his claims.
Paul steps up to the plate….
“Noel Ignatiev (Marxist) “abolishing the white race” is “so desirable that some may find it hard to believe” that anyone other than “committed white supremacists” would oppose it”. (White Devils–destroy)”
Swing and a miss! Ignatiev has made two things very clear in his writings. 1. He considers himself white, and a recipient of white privilege. 2. “Whiteness” is not something physical; it is the social construct we speaks about destroying, not people are are considered white under this social construct. Irish, Russian, Polish, German…THESE are nationalities, ethnic groups, and so on. If Igantiev said we should destroy the Polish people, we should worry.
Ignatiev also has called Zionism racism and he has got into hot water with various Jewish groups over doing so. You know there’s this thing called Google right?
Let’s look at the next exhibit in the Gallery of Fail.
“Wait… so you people get annoyed when someone argues against the majority, who are clearly wrong and get most of their ideas from the media…”
Who is “wrong” and based on what?
“yet when Holder aligns himself with all the other blacks, that is fine?”
Who said he did this?
“Why do you think that China is flourishong, Japan is still strong despite some very unfortunate disasters, and multicultural America is floundering??? Here is a hint – Japan and China are filled with people who are very similar to eachother”
A beautiful specimen of child-logic plus plain ignorance. China is 90% Han, but it’s policies favor the 56 minorities which live in the country.
Japan is also going to have some serious problems in the near future. It is also much easier naturalization laws than the US.
America’s financial woes have nothing to do with its ethnic make-up, unless you include the morons who blame minorities for their failures and keep voting in politicians who end up screwing them down the road.
on April 5th, 2012 at 11:19 am
One would THINK that UC-Long Beach would have fired this piece of crap long ago. Shame on HIM, and shame on the university.
on April 5th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Economics, history, politics, access to resources, religion, age distribution, population size, climate, geography etc and Aussie thinker automatically chooses similar looking people without any other consideration, no, there’s complete lack of consideration as if it had axiomatic force. Aussie hasn’t got much going for him in the thinking department.
I guess they don’t do that at the stormfront website or the like. This is old hat Nazism from Mein Kampf.
on April 5th, 2012 at 11:44 am
“White” identity is peculiar only to situations where being classed as “white” gives one a situation that is classed as privileged in relationship to an underclass that is not “white”, such as the British during the Raj, the white South Africans (British or Boer) during apartheid, the French in their North African colonies, or non-”colored” during Jim Crow. It’s a frequently used device to make disadvantaged high-albedo people take the side of their oppressors against low-albedo people with whom they might otherwise find common cause. Without that, there is no “white” identity. My traceable ancestors are all European, yet if the ones I had about five generations back had all been put in one room together, they’d probably have engaged in mutual extermination.
on April 5th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
One of the earlier posts asks, “How can anyone be so full of hate?” I assume this was with reference to Potok.
on April 5th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
@ Reynardine
If you live in the US, what you’re saying can’t be true. For example, during the census a couple of years, by ticking the “white” box on the form did you somehow magically gain some sort of privilege over some non-white underclass? I sincerely doubt it. And if you did, tell me how you did it!
on April 5th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Freedom is rather great, censorship is not. Kevin M. Is a thinker and has elevated the quality of White Nationist movement in usa. By far the best, since William Pierce rip.
on April 5th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
You have to be careful about saying he’s published in peer reviewed journals. He has published in such journals, but none of his material on Judaism and race has been peer reviewed.
Hateful as his activities are, I would prefer that the California university system not pursue firing a tenured professor because he’s a public, admitted racist and anti-semite. He has a right of free speech as a private citizen and tenure protections as a faculty member. Those two things are more important (especially, I submit, to liberal to left wing minorities and women) than disciplining his extra-curricular speech. In a system where John Yoo has a faculty position, MacDonald fits right in.
I would suggest that students, faculty and administrators shun him. For example, he certainly can’t be trusted on a tenure or dissertation committee, especially if the candidate isn’t a white male. And I doubt he can be a productive teacher if his only students are College Republicans.
on April 5th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Now Red steps up to the plate to deliver more fail. Fine with me, bring ‘em on.
Ok Red, go on ahead and tell us what the “white identity” is. You’d be one of the few to actually attempt to do so. As for “white privilege”, this is based on decades of statistical research in various fields which show that whether you are applying for a job, getting stopped by police, or trying to get a loan, it really helps to be white. This is of course is just the tip of the iceberg. There are a myriad of different ways in which white people of the same class as minorities receive some kind of privilege. It is important to realize that ordinary “white” people did not ask for this privilege; it is part of a system of exploitation which has very deep roots in American history.
Matt’s truckload of fail takes the cake though. Sorry Red.
“Freedom is rather great, censorship is not. Kevin M. Is a thinker and has elevated the quality of White Nationist movement in usa. By far the best, since William Pierce rip.”
Kevin M. is a conspiracy theorist, and while he might have produced some peer-reviewed work in his chosen field, his idiotic claims about Jews have been torn to shreds. Kevin’s little theory only works if we take his assumption that there is such a thing as “the white race,” and that Jews form some kind of hive-mind collective always looking out for their own interest. So, for example, we are to believe that the many non-Jews involved in the Communist movement seriously believed in Communism, whereas the Jews within that movement were all linked together in a conspiracy to advance Jewish interests. It’s ridiculous. In fact MacDonald was busted red-handed carefully cherry-picking quotes from a book on Polish Jewry to support his thesis.
MacDonald, as far as I remember, is a fan of The Bell Curve, and he works for A3P which supports Ron Paul. Why is that important? Well the authors of The Bell Curve have Jewish heritage, like several other well-known academic racists. Strange since MacDonald wants us to believe that Jews get into academia to cover up the existence of race. Supporting Ron Paul is also odd, because Ron Paul’s economic thought is largely influenced by Marray Rothbard and Ludwig von Mises, both of Jewish descent. MacDonald, like most idiot WNs, will let a Jew slide here and there if they don’t engage in behavior he personally doesn’t like. But let him find ONE Jew in a conspiracy with 10 non-Jews, and he’ll label the whole mess “Jewish.” It is also worth noting that he doesn’t like affirmative action yet thinks that Jews should be limited by quotas at universities because of their alleged superior verbal skills. One standard for “whites”, another for everyone else.
As for elevated the quality of WNism, well, that’s not saying much, William Pierce was quite frankly a self-absorbed, pseudo-intellectual bullshit artist who took gullible people for their money and spent it on mail-order brides(really respecting that white womanhood, huh?). The Turner Diaries and Hunter reveal how sexually depraved he was, and one cannot read those books and deny that the man had some secret blacks on blondes fetish.
Sick, sad old man. The only thing more pathetic is how many WNs revere this pervert like some kind of sage-like teacher. Pierce should have thanked you for letting him live a life without working.
on April 5th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
To all, wow, Dr. McDonald has generated some controversy.
Again, not having read his work, is the issue with his proposed theory (it seems he wrote about other groups as well, the Amish, etc) or the fact that he has become an outspoken partisan of white identity politics in addition to his Evolutionary Psychology work?
on April 5th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Pat Dolan, agree with you, the same tenure system protects all of us, no matter what side of the political spectrum you stand on.
I admit a certain prejudice for academic peer review because it tends (not always, but usually) to be more objective, rigorous and divorced from politics.
I will access our data base for reviews and check him out for standing within his academic community.
The Cal State and Univ of CA system is outstanding, I’d be very surprised if a complete crackpot was knowingly employed but hey, guess it can happen.
on April 5th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
@Ruslan
Well, going by what the government forms seem to suggest, my guess is that “white” means people of European descent, just like “black” means people from Africa or “Asian” means people from Asian. Is this really controversial?
As far your rant about “white privilege” goes, it’s tired, clichéd, and predictable.
All the forms of discrimination you cite are illegal. I take it you don’t live in the US?
on April 5th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Red, I once worked for the Census Bureau. That information, as everyone knows, stays locked up for seventy years. However, I assure you that when I first came to Florida fifty-six years ago, my high-albedo complexion got me better public schools, better doctors’ waiting rooms, better motel accomodations, better restaurants, and the front of the bus, whether I wanted them or not. It was another ten years before the legal distinctions passed away; the social ones have not. I don’t have an extra risk of being stopped in a “nice” neighborhood, and if I am, I am less likely to be “resisting arrest with violence” (the standard cover for a beat-down or a killing). All the same, I have a surname which is often taken for Islamic, and I have been given serious crap sight unseen. The census is a paper model. We live in the real world with real faces, bodies, complexions, and names. Kindly don’t be specious.
on April 5th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
It would be helpful I think if any former students or faculty that have close association with him could weigh in on his professional conduct in the classroom or amongst his peers.
Tried to find any posted student comments or professional misconduct accusations from his peers but could not after a cursory search.
on April 5th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
@Deep Ecology
Kevin MacDonald’s page at RateMyProfessor.com gives a good idea of what students who have taken his class think of him.
on April 5th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Some people are really funny here, all of a sudden they ask “what is a white race?”. “what is european culture?”, “what is western civilization?”
Maybe you people could do some “reverse engineering” in your thoughts to find your answers, you are usually very good to talk about race and culture when non-whites are the victims and whites are guilty of oppression.
So what is the white race, european culture and western civilization? Well you leftist lunatics, don’t you remember who colonized and oppressed the people in North America? I’m sure you will now remember what is “white, european and western”.
Stupid leftists. Your intimidation doesn’t work anymore because we know exactly your tactics.
on April 5th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
@Reyanardine
With respect, Reynardine, there are parts of Florida where you, as a light-skinned person, probably shouldn’t go walking around.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl.....h-tourists
Where’s your privilege again?
on April 5th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
“Well, going by what the government forms seem to suggest, my guess is that “white” means people of European descent, just like “black” means people from Africa or “Asian” means people from Asian. Is this really controversial?”
Well I’ve got some bad news for you, Red. According to the government, “white” means people of European, Middle Eastern, or North African descent. In any case, this doesn’t mean that there is some ethnic group called “white” which dominates Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa. It is a
“As far your rant about “white privilege” goes, it’s tired, clichéd, and predictable.”
Perhaps, but it’s also backed up by hard data. Just pick a subject and we’ll look at the data. Job discrimination? Lending discrimination? Racial profiling? Media portrayal? The sky’s the limit. Or we could look at how the US government favored whites in the past at the expense of blacks, and see how this created a massive white middle class after WWII while blacks were not allowed to take advantage of the same benefits.
“All the forms of discrimination you cite are illegal. I take it you don’t live in the US?”
Right, because when things are made illegal, even when the laws are near impossible to enforce, people don’t engage in such activities. That’s why nobody does drugs in the US. It’s illegal!
on April 5th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
One wonders what McD would be saying if Trayvon had been a white kid. He’d probably be raving about how these evil Latinos(Zimmerman) are hunting good white kids in the street with impunity. Then again, maybe not, because had Martin been white, Zimmerman would have been arrested.
on April 5th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
I’ve read some of the essays of Dr. MacDonald. I’ve seen a few of his videos. Leftists claim to champion free speech but the truth is they only support free speech, if that speech agrees with them. They’ll try to get that person fired.
Professor MacDonald has tenure, so that freaks out the Leftists. They can’t get him fired. So I can just sit here and laugh. You’ll all just have to squirm and get used to it because he’s not going away.
on April 5th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Ok, thanks to SPLC for alerting me to David Duke’s program and the interview with Professor MacDonald. I just listened to the show, and I think it was pretty good. Both Duke & MacDonald are entertaining, informative, and erudite. I like the bumper music Duke uses too. I was surprised that Duke actually has advertisers that sponsor his show. Good deal!
on April 6th, 2012 at 12:49 am
Professor Macdonald’s reply to this piece: http://www.theoccidentalobserv.....ht-police/ :
“So, despite Potok’s rant, I plead not guilty to charges of “engaging in ‘opprobrious, flagrant, insulting, defamatory’ speech.” Not that that will stop him and his many allies. If anyone should sue for defamation, it’s me.”
on April 6th, 2012 at 12:55 am
If race does not matter and the government is colorblind why do they ask your “race” on the census, surveys about their websites, and on job applications for government statistics? The last is always “voluntary”… Ever say you don’t want to answer and get that job? We have a long way to go.
on April 6th, 2012 at 5:46 am
“so-called genocide”
You would say that.No one likes to be responsible for pushing worldwide genocide!
on April 6th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Red, I requested that you not be specious.
on April 6th, 2012 at 9:57 am
No published reviews from students in Rate My Professor that hint of any bias or racism, apparently a pretty boring lecturer, medium class load, mostly approachable and helpful during office hours, sometimes goes off on a tangent in class and favors his own published theories of child psychology over others. Ok, so professionally not a problem.
Peer review of research mostly favorable, and not much controversy generated from first two books about Jewish in-group identity and intelligence, last one though seemed to have hit a nerve and produced some vociferous opposition.
It does appear that groups in opposition to Zionism and Jewish influence use his works as scholarly ammunition to buttress their arguments.
Randomly hit on a series of essays on a site that was interesting to read, can be found here:
http://www.jewcy.com/post/kevin_macdonald_right
The Right seems passionately divided on the Jewish question. I am a fellow travelor with much of New Right thought but more in the radical traditionalist school and Deep Ecology. That being said, I am a supporter of Israel and the existence of Jewish state. It is only through self-determination and nationhood that Jews can protect themselves from the consequences of historical anti-semitism. And yes, I know this came at the expense of Palestinian lands and self-determination. It is rare for there to be a win-win scenario when it comes to this kind of clear cut blood, soil and religion conflict.
on April 6th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Right on time we get another delivery of stupid.
Let’s start with “Lux.”
“Some people are really funny here, all of a sudden they ask “what is a white race?”. “what is european culture?”, “what is western civilization?”
Yes Lux, we ask those questions. Let’s hear some answers.
on April 6th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Aussie wrote: “Why do you think that China is flourishong, Japan is still strong despite some very unfortunate disasters, and multicultural America is floundering??? Here is a hint – Japan and China are filled with people who are very similar to each other.”
Having spent time in Japan I know that the Japanese are not similar to each other. There are notable differences in culture, education, class, and values among the Japanese; especially between those who live in the big cities and the countryside. There are also several large minority groups, i.e. Koreans, and other immigrant communities as well as American ex-pats. But, what the Japanese do have is a decent safety net that helps with their resilience under distressing circumstances. Their health care is affordable, so those people exposed to radiation in a nuclear power plant will not have to declare bankruptcy. No one in Japan declares bankruptcy because of an illness.
on April 6th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
As long ago as Lao-Tze, China was becoming “the Great Land” by taking in other groups and assimilating them. Even now, the groups you can find in China include Manchu, Uighur, Tibetan, and Miao; there is a very noticeable physical and linguistic difference even among Han from Southern and Northern China, and many of those now identified as Han historically came from diverse groups since subsumed. Ethnic Japanese, Koreans, Annamese, and Laotians live in China. But of course, to a certain mentality, “they all look alike”.
on April 6th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Red, as a former English examiner, I can state that Mr. Amirkhanov’s English is the kind used by well- read native speakers from North America, even though I don’t have enough material in front of me to distinguish U.S. from Canadian isographs. There is, however, no sound reason for you to make snide allusions to whatever you imagine his ethnic background is, especially since he hasn’t asserted it as any grounds for either special knowledge or superiority.
Usually people who say things like that are impugning either someone’s bona fides or their knowledge on the grounds that their opponant is a Muslim, a Jew, a furriner, or all three, and therefore to be discounted, regardless of the truth of their assertions. It’s a cretinous tactic, and one that wastes the time of serious participants in a discussion.
on April 6th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
@Ruslan Amirkhanov
“According to the government, “white” means people of European, Middle Eastern, or North African descent.”
Okay, so what? Is there some sort of problem with this? What is your obsession with proving that white people don’t exist? Clearly they do – there are millions of people walking around at this very moment who would happily identify themselves as white. Is it your life’s mission to somehow convince them they aren’t? What an odd little crusade you’re on. Just out of curiosity, does this crusade include telling black people they’re not black or telling asians they’re not asian?
I said it before but I’ll say it again, in my experience when a group is trying to deny the existence of another group it is usually for worst reasons, starting with being a cheap, low way to not listen to the arguments the other side is making and continuing towards complete denial of the group’s humanity, indeed as a prelude to overt political repression.
So, I’m not sure where you’re going with this “white people don’t exist” thing of yours, but when I compare it to other examples I’ve seen of similar rhetorical moves, it doesn’t reflect well on whatever it is you’re up to.
on April 6th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
@Ruslan Amirkhanov
“…Just pick a subject and we’ll look at the data…”
Okay, go ahead, let’s see your stats on job discrimination, racial profiling, lending discrimination, and portrayal in the media. Most of those are predictable but the media one strikes me odd. Minorities have never been more often portrayed or better portrayed in the media than they are now. Black music IS the dominant form of pop music these days. Curious what you’re going to complain about there.
“…we could look at how the US government favored whites in the past at the expense of blacks, and see how this created a massive white middle class…”
So whites are privileged because of past racial injustice? I suppose this is privilege in a “gee, you’re lucky” sort of sense, but it’s not privilege in the sense of “hey, you’ve got something I should have right now too.” That is, unless you’re proposing forced re-distribution of wealth. Good luck with that.
“…because when things are made illegal, even when the laws are near impossible to enforce…”
When something is made illegal there is indeed almost always a big societal effect. i don’t think there’s much doubt that if guns were made illegal there would be a lot less gun violence. And I think there’s little doubt that if drugs were made legal there would be a lot more drug use. So to say that making discrimination illegal hasn’t made any difference is just strange. I don’t think you are going to find many serious thinkers who would agree with you that making discrimination illegal hasn’t made a big difference in the US. Given this, you’re basing your concept of “white privilege” on types of discrimination that have been severely curtailed over the past 40 years. This is why I call your argument old and tired.
That’s all for now. I’m going to resist the temptation to go on a childish “you fail” “you’re a big plate of fail” fest. You seem like a decent enough person aside from the creepy “white people don’t exist” thing.
on April 6th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
@Reyanrdine
I agree, Ruslan’s English seems perfectly okay to me. Not sure where you got the idea that I think his English is bad, but let me assure you I think it’s just fine. Your English seems great too while we’re at it. Anything else you’re concerned about that I can help you with?
on April 6th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
For the record, I’m American, and also by American social standards unquestionably “white”, gentile. Sorry White Nationalists.
Anyway, I think it’s always funny do watch the WN monkeys praise their “intellectual gods” like William “Pervert” Pierce and Kevin MacDonald. I won’t count Duke because Duke doesn’t do his own writing or research, and anyone who is close to Duke knows this. The thing is that if you can string together two paragraphs without writing some racial slur, you become a WN intellectual. And yet for all the touting of MacDonald’s credentials, a great deal of MacDonald’s theory is based on history, which is not his field. It is there that his theory falls apart.
As for Duke, he’s the guy that makes me pity you poor WN. I mean this guy’s been running all over Europe with YOUR money. He spends 5 years in Russia and Ukraine and can’t read Cyrillic. What do you think he was doing with your money? There are plenty of people WITHIN your movement who will tell you that Duke is a fraud and a con-man. And you’re stupid enough to keep sucking up to him. Man, I should’ve been a WN “intellectual”, I’d never have to do any real work.
on April 7th, 2012 at 12:54 am
Truth-speakers and challengers of orthodoxy (leftist or PC or any other kind) have never been popular.
Your little article is a recommendation of sorts.
Thank you and Chag Pesakh Sameakh.
on April 7th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Rey,
Why would anyone impugn an opponent in a political debate for the simple fact that they are a furrier? People desire mink coats, and furriers provide them that product!
Har har!
on April 8th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
“Clearly they do – there are millions of people walking around at this very moment who would happily identify themselves as white.”
Nope, most of these people will identify themselves by nationality first, and most of those who call themselves white live in the US, Canada, Australia, etc. A European would rarely identify themselves as “white”, and North Africans, Arabs, Turks, and Persians are extremely unlikely to use such an identifier.
” Is it your life’s mission to somehow convince them they aren’t? What an odd little crusade you’re on. Just out of curiosity, does this crusade include telling black people they’re not black or telling asians they’re not asian?”
“White” denotes appearance, it is not a nationality. There is no such thing as “white” culture or a “white” nation. As for black Americans, unlike the Irish, Italians, etc. they did not willingly give up their own identity(after all they could never assimilate and become “white”). They are “black” because they don’t have the luxury of being able to point out what particular African country their ancestors came from. As for “Asians”, it is clear that you have an Americentric view of the world, because Asia is a pretty big place. “Asians” run the gamut from European to Mongolic, Tungusgic, etc.
“I said it before but I’ll say it again, in my experience when a group is trying to deny the existence of another group it is usually for worst reasons, starting with being a cheap, low way to not listen to the arguments the other side is making and continuing towards complete denial of the group’s humanity, indeed as a prelude to overt political repression.”
Ridiculous.
“So, I’m not sure where you’re going with this “white people don’t exist” thing of yours, but when I compare it to other examples I’ve seen of similar rhetorical moves, it doesn’t reflect well on whatever it is you’re up to.”
There’s an easy way to clear this up. Just tell us who “white people” are and explain their culture, language, etc.
“Okay, go ahead, let’s see your stats on job discrimination, racial profiling, lending discrimination, and portrayal in the media. Most of those are predictable but the media one strikes me odd. Minorities have never been more often portrayed or better portrayed in the media than they are now. Black music IS the dominant form of pop music these days. Curious what you’re going to complain about there.”
Job discrimination: http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873
This is a fairly representative study; in some studies black applicants with no criminal record and equal or higher qualifications are not called back while white applicants with criminal records receive calls: http://www.epi.org/publication....._09172003/
On racial profiling: http://www.epi.org/publication....._09172003/
Next time you use Google.
“So whites are privileged because of past racial injustice? I suppose this is privilege in a “gee, you’re lucky” sort of sense, but it’s not privilege in the sense of “hey, you’ve got something I should have right now too.” That is, unless you’re proposing forced re-distribution of wealth. Good luck with that.”
Historical privilege is only part of white privilege. This is not too hard to understand(well, maybe for you it is). If someone is told to run a race with weights attached to their legs, obviously their opponent is going to run far ahead of them. Now if one day we take the weights off, does this make the race fair? Of course not.
“When something is made illegal there is indeed almost always a big societal effect. i don’t think there’s much doubt that if guns were made illegal there would be a lot less gun violence. And I think there’s little doubt that if drugs were made legal there would be a lot more drug use.”
There is a hell of a lot of drug use now, including in places like prison where every aspect of life is severely restricted. The efficacy of a law is often related to how easy it is to enforce.
” So to say that making discrimination illegal hasn’t made any difference is just strange. I don’t think you are going to find many serious thinkers who would agree with you that making discrimination illegal hasn’t made a big difference in the US. Given this, you’re basing your concept of “white privilege” on types of discrimination that have been severely curtailed over the past 40 years. This is why I call your argument old and tired.”
Yeah, that’s why drug use is almost unheard of in the US, because of the war on drugs which has gone on for more than 40 years.
on April 9th, 2012 at 7:00 am
According to my definition of ‘racism’ (Dr. Gedaliah Braun: What is Racism; or How Philsophy can be Practical); I have never come across anything Dr. MacDonald said that was remotely ‘racist’. He has always been willing to enter into discussion providing his evidence for his arguments, and to change his mind on any conclusion, should he be provided evidence to the contrary.
The SPLC however have and continue to be extremely bigotted towards any ideas they disagree with, and refuse to provide their evidence or arguments or to enter into a civil rational impartial enquiry into the issue. They prefer to be judge, jury and executioner, without providing the accused any opportunity to submit the evidence of their defense. This indicates to me at least, that the SPLC — at least where it comes to Dr. MacDonald — do not have honourable ethical intentions, but that they are using the fake smear of ‘racism’ to defame Dr. MacDonald.
on April 9th, 2012 at 7:34 am
The subject of William Pierce is curiously interesting. I read “The Turner Diaries in 1987, and, in pursuit of a subject I was researching, again ten years later. On the latter occasion, I passed it along to my co-author, a former New York City cop who was born in Puerto Rico. “This has to be a put-on!” Was his reaction. Alas, no, but it’s easy to see why he thought so: there is not only no subtlety about it, but it is such a gross exaggeration of even the most bigoted stereotypes that it is hard to believe anyone could take it seriously. Turner’s strategic impersonation by a Jew would be seen through by anyone over eight in the first thirty seconds, for example, yet in the novel, he gets away with it. Yet this work was taken seriously enough by Timothy McVeigh, for instance, to…
I had never heard of “Hunter” until Ruslan cited it. The only work of that name I knew of was a rather hokey “autobiography” by an alleged big-game hunter popularized in the early Fifties. I looked up a synopsis, however. In my view, this book is far more dangerous, because it can inspire any lone wolf; it has evidently inspired many lone wolves; it may have inspired the killer of Trayvon Martin.
Really, Ruslan, I never thought of Mr. Pierce getting married at all, because I really did not wish to picture him engaging in sexual reproduction. It’s interesting, though, that he should have selected Hungarian women for his later endeavors (as I might have featured, they didn’t stay long). Hungarians are pretty up front about their Central Asian ancestry. They were, even in WW II. Yet if consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, even such a little hobgoblin evidently could not fit within the dimensions of Mr. Pierce’s cranium.
on April 9th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Note: Android autocorrect functions produced some anomalies in the foregoing, but at least not a perorating pastry.
on April 12th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
It does my soul good to see more and more people stand up to the intolerance found at SPLC. I think the more you call people racist, and the more you try to punish freedom of speech, the more you are going to push people over to what you call the “radical right”. SPLC is the inquisitor of the twenty first century. Race realists are the heretics. In the long run, our opinions will prevail. I can almost guarrentee it!
on April 12th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
I wish I had, had some professors like this in college who present an opposing viewpoint to the overly-pushy and pansywaisted ultraliberals who cannot stand anyone they cannot brainwash.
on April 12th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
The correct term, dear Wentra, is either panty-waisted (referring to an obsolete garment worn by Victorian children) or pansy (a large shrinking violet). Neither one goes with “pushy”, but I doubt you are any more capable of a consistent literary style than you are of cogent thought.
on April 12th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
I support the principal of free speech and the right to express unpopular minority opinions. But does this liberty have moral boundries? Mark Potok asserts that Dr. MacDonald made a series of “provably untrue” accusations against Trayvon Martin. Were they untrue? If so, why did he make them? I would judge that to be remarkably careless for a disciplined academic. Are Dr. MacDonald’s defenders avoiding addressing his apparently spurious accusations?
on April 13th, 2012 at 4:26 am
I’ve got MacDonald’s back…the late Joe Sobran once observed that so called “multiculturalism” is nothing more a stubborn refusal to accept any true culture seriously. Whether anyone on this thread likes it or not, this nation was founded and made once great—which it is no longer—by European men of White gentile ancestry—-not by a horde of Barack Obamas and Trayvon Martins or Buttface Benjamin Bernankes and Lloyd Blankfines.
Whether any of you believe this or not, if it should turn out to be true that Zimmerman (who is half hispanic and by no means the blond haired blue-eyed Norseman the screaming mimi libs would so love to have had him be) did in fact stalk Martin and methodically gun him down the same way that Johannes Mehserle, the Oakland cop, senselessly shot Oscar grant in the back while he was lying face down on the BART platform and posing no threat whatsoever, I would want to see him hang for it as much as any of you. But I have yet to see evidence that this is anything remotely akin to the Oscar Grant murder. And until we are presented with proof beyond any reasonable doubt and to a moral certainty that it was in fact, and the maggotry of the droolingly judeophilic media just give us the facts—ALL of them— so we can decide for ourselves rather than letting them do out thinking, this will only become more of a tumor in our lives.
Perhaps Trayvon was a gangbanger and local punk hood—it is not as if such were flatly impossible—and perhaps he was a Norman Rockwell choir-boy, or perhaps a spectrum of things intermediate. Let us have the damned truth if that not be a demand too cramping of the style of the jewish fog machine press.
on April 13th, 2012 at 9:08 am
What the Hell is a true culture, Hauser? Define one. How do you tell it from an untrue culture? Give us cogent parameters. How do you define a Jew? Give us your exact delimitation. As for blue-eyed blonds, I have no reason to suppose they are more or less given to criminality than any other group (Anders Breivik bleached his hair). And now, please…no, the mods will publish people like you, but they’re prudish, so further I say not.
on April 13th, 2012 at 11:41 am
The WN thing never made sense to me. The reason there exists in the US a “proud to be black” meme makes perfect sense against the background of 100 post-Civil-War years of bullshit laws that reinforced negative stereotypes about black people. You think being white gives you no privilege? What utter tripe. Have YOU ever been followed as you walk around a store? Have YOU ever been pulled over by cops & immediately started a litany of “I’m not resisting, yes sir, whatever you say sir, of course you can search my car sir” to avoid being Tasered, Maced or shot? So many things, but if you choose to be blind, nothing I say will make any difference.
For the record: my parents were missionaries; I am Australian by birth but grew up (cross- and multi-culturally) in Papua New Guinea and the US. You think bigotry no longer exists just because it’s illegal? Wherever you live, and/or the inside of your head, must be a monocultural wasteland. Deeply committed Christian friends of ours in SC were *appalled” when our family started attending a black church; when we told them we’d eaten at a certain restaurant; when we stopped to help a stranded black motorist, when we had black friends In Our House!!
My dad’s family are all solidly, stolidly white, from England and Ireland. My mum’s family has English, Greek, German, Spanish & Jamaican. We are, by all physical appearance, white people who tan really well.
I have friends who identify culturally, and participate in cultural events pertaining thereto, Latvian, Ukrainian, Jamaican, Trinidadian… I used to be envious of them for having “a” cultural identifier, when mine consisted of “Australian. Sort of.” Although I have “white” (usually actually brownish) skin, I do not consider myself White, nor am I proud or otherwise of my skin colour – it simply is what it is.
on April 13th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
To be sure, when I was young enough to fry my hide, it was lower-albedo than a lot of people who aren’t “white”, and even now, just cultivating my farmset and walking to town makes me distinctly swarthier than a lot of less “white” people in Yankee land. On the other hand, winter in New York left me whiter than a box of Domino sugar cubes. Anders Breivik was tanner- a lot tanner. Okay, so back to defining “white”…
on April 15th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Lol!! Yes, that username/pen name fits him very well!!
on April 15th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
I am 2nd generation Mexican-American and people tell me to get a tan bcs my skin is so “white.” I don’t follow the advice due to having had a small case of skin cancer. But my point is that of some other posts: “white” is difficult to define.
If Haters ever get together to round up and shoot Mexicans at the border, they might overlook me. If I speak, they will not hear an accent either. Yet, I feel all the hate and intolerance as if it is directed towards me (hate of ANY kind–toward African-Americans, anti-Semitic, etc). I stand with ANY group that is told to give up their traditions in order to assimilate.