For the record: my parents were missionaries; I am Australian by birth but grew up (cross- and multi-culturally) in Papua New Guinea and the US. You think bigotry no longer exists just because it’s illegal? Wherever you live, and/or the inside of your head, must be a monocultural wasteland. Deeply committed Christian friends of ours in SC were *appalled” when our family started attending a black church; when we told them we’d eaten at a certain restaurant; when we stopped to help a stranded black motorist, when we had black friends In Our House!!

My dad’s family are all solidly, stolidly white, from England and Ireland. My mum’s family has English, Greek, German, Spanish & Jamaican. We are, by all physical appearance, white people who tan really well.

I have friends who identify culturally, and participate in cultural events pertaining thereto, Latvian, Ukrainian, Jamaican, Trinidadian… I used to be envious of them for having “a” cultural identifier, when mine consisted of “Australian. Sort of.” Although I have “white” (usually actually brownish) skin, I do not consider myself White, nor am I proud or otherwise of my skin colour – it simply is what it is.

I had never heard of “Hunter” until Ruslan cited it. The only work of that name I knew of was a rather hokey “autobiography” by an alleged big-game hunter popularized in the early Fifties. I looked up a synopsis, however. In my view, this book is far more dangerous, because it can inspire any lone wolf; it has evidently inspired many lone wolves; it may have inspired the killer of Trayvon Martin.

Really, Ruslan, I never thought of Mr. Pierce getting married at all, because I really did not wish to picture him engaging in sexual reproduction. It’s interesting, though, that he should have selected Hungarian women for his later endeavors (as I might have featured, they didn’t stay long). Hungarians are pretty up front about their Central Asian ancestry. They were, even in WW II. Yet if consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, even such a little hobgoblin evidently could not fit within the dimensions of Mr. Pierce’s cranium.

The SPLC however have and continue to be extremely bigotted towards any ideas they disagree with, and refuse to provide their evidence or arguments or to enter into a civil rational impartial enquiry into the issue. They prefer to be judge, jury and executioner, without providing the accused any opportunity to submit the evidence of their defense. This indicates to me at least, that the SPLC — at least where it comes to Dr. MacDonald — do not have honourable ethical intentions, but that they are using the fake smear of ‘racism’ to defame Dr. MacDonald.

Nope, most of these people will identify themselves by nationality first, and most of those who call themselves white live in the US, Canada, Australia, etc. A European would rarely identify themselves as “white”, and North Africans, Arabs, Turks, and Persians are extremely unlikely to use such an identifier.

” Is it your life’s mission to somehow convince them they aren’t? What an odd little crusade you’re on. Just out of curiosity, does this crusade include telling black people they’re not black or telling asians they’re not asian?”

“White” denotes appearance, it is not a nationality. There is no such thing as “white” culture or a “white” nation. As for black Americans, unlike the Irish, Italians, etc. they did not willingly give up their own identity(after all they could never assimilate and become “white”). They are “black” because they don’t have the luxury of being able to point out what particular African country their ancestors came from. As for “Asians”, it is clear that you have an Americentric view of the world, because Asia is a pretty big place. “Asians” run the gamut from European to Mongolic, Tungusgic, etc.

“I said it before but I’ll say it again, in my experience when a group is trying to deny the existence of another group it is usually for worst reasons, starting with being a cheap, low way to not listen to the arguments the other side is making and continuing towards complete denial of the group’s humanity, indeed as a prelude to overt political repression.”

Ridiculous.

“So, I’m not sure where you’re going with this “white people don’t exist” thing of yours, but when I compare it to other examples I’ve seen of similar rhetorical moves, it doesn’t reflect well on whatever it is you’re up to.”

There’s an easy way to clear this up. Just tell us who “white people” are and explain their culture, language, etc.

“Okay, go ahead, let’s see your stats on job discrimination, racial profiling, lending discrimination, and portrayal in the media. Most of those are predictable but the media one strikes me odd. Minorities have never been more often portrayed or better portrayed in the media than they are now. Black music IS the dominant form of pop music these days. Curious what you’re going to complain about there.”

Job discrimination: http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873

This is a fairly representative study; in some studies black applicants with no criminal record and equal or higher qualifications are not called back while white applicants with criminal records receive calls: http://www.epi.org/publication....._09172003/

On racial profiling: http://www.epi.org/publication....._09172003/

Next time you use Google.

“So whites are privileged because of past racial injustice? I suppose this is privilege in a “gee, you’re lucky” sort of sense, but it’s not privilege in the sense of “hey, you’ve got something I should have right now too.” That is, unless you’re proposing forced re-distribution of wealth. Good luck with that.”

Historical privilege is only part of white privilege. This is not too hard to understand(well, maybe for you it is). If someone is told to run a race with weights attached to their legs, obviously their opponent is going to run far ahead of them. Now if one day we take the weights off, does this make the race fair? Of course not.

“When something is made illegal there is indeed almost always a big societal effect. i don’t think there’s much doubt that if guns were made illegal there would be a lot less gun violence. And I think there’s little doubt that if drugs were made legal there would be a lot more drug use.”

There is a hell of a lot of drug use now, including in places like prison where every aspect of life is severely restricted. The efficacy of a law is often related to how easy it is to enforce.

” So to say that making discrimination illegal hasn’t made any difference is just strange. I don’t think you are going to find many serious thinkers who would agree with you that making discrimination illegal hasn’t made a big difference in the US. Given this, you’re basing your concept of “white privilege” on types of discrimination that have been severely curtailed over the past 40 years. This is why I call your argument old and tired.”

Yeah, that’s why drug use is almost unheard of in the US, because of the war on drugs which has gone on for more than 40 years.

Why would anyone impugn an opponent in a political debate for the simple fact that they are a furrier? People desire mink coats, and furriers provide them that product!

Har har!

Your little article is a recommendation of sorts.

Thank you and Chag Pesakh Sameakh.

Anyway, I think it’s always funny do watch the WN monkeys praise their “intellectual gods” like William “Pervert” Pierce and Kevin MacDonald. I won’t count Duke because Duke doesn’t do his own writing or research, and anyone who is close to Duke knows this. The thing is that if you can string together two paragraphs without writing some racial slur, you become a WN intellectual. And yet for all the touting of MacDonald’s credentials, a great deal of MacDonald’s theory is based on history, which is not his field. It is there that his theory falls apart.

As for Duke, he’s the guy that makes me pity you poor WN. I mean this guy’s been running all over Europe with YOUR money. He spends 5 years in Russia and Ukraine and can’t read Cyrillic. What do you think he was doing with your money? There are plenty of people WITHIN your movement who will tell you that Duke is a fraud and a con-man. And you’re stupid enough to keep sucking up to him. Man, I should’ve been a WN “intellectual”, I’d never have to do any real work.

I agree, Ruslan’s English seems perfectly okay to me. Not sure where you got the idea that I think his English is bad, but let me assure you I think it’s just fine. Your English seems great too while we’re at it. Anything else you’re concerned about that I can help you with?

“…Just pick a subject and we’ll look at the data…”

Okay, go ahead, let’s see your stats on job discrimination, racial profiling, lending discrimination, and portrayal in the media. Most of those are predictable but the media one strikes me odd. Minorities have never been more often portrayed or better portrayed in the media than they are now. Black music IS the dominant form of pop music these days. Curious what you’re going to complain about there.

“…we could look at how the US government favored whites in the past at the expense of blacks, and see how this created a massive white middle class…”

So whites are privileged because of past racial injustice? I suppose this is privilege in a “gee, you’re lucky” sort of sense, but it’s not privilege in the sense of “hey, you’ve got something I should have right now too.” That is, unless you’re proposing forced re-distribution of wealth. Good luck with that.

“…because when things are made illegal, even when the laws are near impossible to enforce…”

When something is made illegal there is indeed almost always a big societal effect. i don’t think there’s much doubt that if guns were made illegal there would be a lot less gun violence. And I think there’s little doubt that if drugs were made legal there would be a lot more drug use. So to say that making discrimination illegal hasn’t made any difference is just strange. I don’t think you are going to find many serious thinkers who would agree with you that making discrimination illegal hasn’t made a big difference in the US. Given this, you’re basing your concept of “white privilege” on types of discrimination that have been severely curtailed over the past 40 years. This is why I call your argument old and tired.

That’s all for now. I’m going to resist the temptation to go on a childish “you fail” “you’re a big plate of fail” fest. You seem like a decent enough person aside from the creepy “white people don’t exist” thing.

“According to the government, “white” means people of European, Middle Eastern, or North African descent.”

Okay, so what? Is there some sort of problem with this? What is your obsession with proving that white people don’t exist? Clearly they do – there are millions of people walking around at this very moment who would happily identify themselves as white. Is it your life’s mission to somehow convince them they aren’t? What an odd little crusade you’re on. Just out of curiosity, does this crusade include telling black people they’re not black or telling asians they’re not asian?

I said it before but I’ll say it again, in my experience when a group is trying to deny the existence of another group it is usually for worst reasons, starting with being a cheap, low way to not listen to the arguments the other side is making and continuing towards complete denial of the group’s humanity, indeed as a prelude to overt political repression.

So, I’m not sure where you’re going with this “white people don’t exist” thing of yours, but when I compare it to other examples I’ve seen of similar rhetorical moves, it doesn’t reflect well on whatever it is you’re up to.

Usually people who say things like that are impugning either someone’s bona fides or their knowledge on the grounds that their opponant is a Muslim, a Jew, a furriner, or all three, and therefore to be discounted, regardless of the truth of their assertions. It’s a cretinous tactic, and one that wastes the time of serious participants in a discussion.

Having spent time in Japan I know that the Japanese are not similar to each other. There are notable differences in culture, education, class, and values among the Japanese; especially between those who live in the big cities and the countryside. There are also several large minority groups, i.e. Koreans, and other immigrant communities as well as American ex-pats. But, what the Japanese do have is a decent safety net that helps with their resilience under distressing circumstances. Their health care is affordable, so those people exposed to radiation in a nuclear power plant will not have to declare bankruptcy. No one in Japan declares bankruptcy because of an illness.

Let’s start with “Lux.”

“Some people are really funny here, all of a sudden they ask “what is a white race?”. “what is european culture?”, “what is western civilization?”

Yes Lux, we ask those questions. Let’s hear some answers.

Peer review of research mostly favorable, and not much controversy generated from first two books about Jewish in-group identity and intelligence, last one though seemed to have hit a nerve and produced some vociferous opposition.

It does appear that groups in opposition to Zionism and Jewish influence use his works as scholarly ammunition to buttress their arguments.

Randomly hit on a series of essays on a site that was interesting to read, can be found here:
http://www.jewcy.com/post/kevin_macdonald_right

The Right seems passionately divided on the Jewish question. I am a fellow travelor with much of New Right thought but more in the radical traditionalist school and Deep Ecology. That being said, I am a supporter of Israel and the existence of Jewish state. It is only through self-determination and nationhood that Jews can protect themselves from the consequences of historical anti-semitism. And yes, I know this came at the expense of Palestinian lands and self-determination. It is rare for there to be a win-win scenario when it comes to this kind of clear cut blood, soil and religion conflict.

You would say that.No one likes to be responsible for pushing worldwide genocide!

“So, despite Potok’s rant, I plead not guilty to charges of “engaging in ‘opprobrious, flagrant, insulting, defamatory’ speech.” Not that that will stop him and his many allies. If anyone should sue for defamation, it’s me.”