Comments on: Accused Utah Cop-Killer Had Antigovernment Views http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/05/accused-utah-cop-killer-had-antigovernment-views/ Hatewatch is a blog of the Southern Poverty Law Center Tue, 21 May 2013 20:45:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: concernedcitizen http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/05/accused-utah-cop-killer-had-antigovernment-views/comment-page-1/#comment-1837554 concernedcitizen Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:20:11 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8966#comment-1837554 the concerned citizen posting above uses a space in their name those are not my comments. I just want to make sure that we are aware that I have a troll. the concerned citizen posting above uses a space in their name those are not my comments.

I just want to make sure that we are aware that I have a troll.

]]> By: concernedcitizen http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/05/accused-utah-cop-killer-had-antigovernment-views/comment-page-1/#comment-1837544 concernedcitizen Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:18:47 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8966#comment-1837544 Well that's an interesting view Rose and of course I found this in 2013, I suppose threatening to go into a building and kill innocent Americans performing their jobs is okay? Accessing IRS databases is a serious offense and he could have been attacking the accounts of innocent Americans. We have a system of fighting it's called a Judicial System, it's the law we use lawyers, judges, juries and we have self representation or court appointed lawyers and those who work Pro Bono, but what we don't have is a system that allows for anyone of us to take guns or other weapons and at will whenever we feel the need take a life of an innocent person. If this kid only gets charged for the marijuana plants then he's gotten off pretty good, given the threats he's made on taking the lives of others. Well that’s an interesting view Rose and of course I found this in 2013, I suppose threatening to go into a building and kill innocent Americans performing their jobs is okay?

Accessing IRS databases is a serious offense and he could have been attacking the accounts of innocent Americans.

We have a system of fighting it’s called a Judicial System, it’s the law we use lawyers, judges, juries and we have self representation or court appointed lawyers and those who work Pro Bono, but what we don’t have is a system that allows for anyone of us to take guns or other weapons and at will whenever we feel the need take a life of an innocent person.

If this kid only gets charged for the marijuana plants then he’s gotten off pretty good, given the threats he’s made on taking the lives of others.

]]> By: Rose Alford http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/05/accused-utah-cop-killer-had-antigovernment-views/comment-page-1/#comment-760542 Rose Alford Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:33:34 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8966#comment-760542 It is not right to violently raid a home of an American citizen over a harmless plant. The prohibition against marijuana is the main culprit in this story. These bully cops go after marijuana growers because they feel they are non-violent and are easy pickings for seizure of property. The cops get extra money for these so called "no knock raids" and to me it is no different than the Gestapo. It is not right to violently raid a home of an American citizen over a harmless plant. The prohibition against marijuana is the main culprit in this story. These bully cops go after marijuana growers because they feel they are non-violent and are easy pickings for seizure of property. The cops get extra money for these so called “no knock raids” and to me it is no different than the Gestapo.

]]> By: concerned citizen http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/05/accused-utah-cop-killer-had-antigovernment-views/comment-page-1/#comment-429078 concerned citizen Mon, 09 Apr 2012 17:19:46 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8966#comment-429078 and if you dont think the police have a violent gang mentality go do a you tube search, theres 1000s of police brutality cases! most of you wont care till it happens to YOU! then we will hear you crying for help! and if you dont think the police have a violent gang mentality go do a you tube search, theres 1000s of police brutality cases! most of you wont care till it happens to YOU! then we will hear you crying for help!

]]> By: Tony http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/05/accused-utah-cop-killer-had-antigovernment-views/comment-page-1/#comment-429061 Tony Mon, 09 Apr 2012 16:28:44 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8966#comment-429061 ok ARON , you must be so extremely intelligent that you completely understand how the world works! you should enlighten me ; ) Im sure you know the bill of rights by heart and you probably could recite the Constitution word for word! right ? ya I'm guessing that you wouldn't know your ass from a hole in the ground, and you can go ahead and hide your head in that same hole you think is your ass! oh you pointed out my hurried one hand typing, that makes you soooo smart! your prize is the whole internet! So I guess you know your history so well that you know the 16th amendment was drafted by the big banks (jp morgan,chase etc) to make the average citizen pay "taxes" on your trading labor for money. I guess you also know that the Federal Reserve Bank was created at the time that the 16th amendment was illegally pushed through,just like the patriot act and so many other bills that are a assault on our rights!The federal Reserve is a private institution! And I guess you ,in all you shinning intelligence know with all your heart that the government knows whats best for you and NEVER lies! Its great how when people start thinking for themselves instead of letting some one else do it for you you are a "wacko" or in your words Aron"not expressing yourself like a adult" tell you what, every one here that doesnt think that we are being lied to and completely deceived by our "elected" officials, go ahead and keep watching your NFL and your MTV. Keep playing those video games and buying things you dont need. and when you keep ignoring your rights they will disappear. PS dont believe me about the fed reserve or the 16th amendment? how bout actually READING about it before you open your ignorant mouth. I've probably forgotten more books than you have read in your whole sheeple life! ok ARON , you must be so extremely intelligent that you completely understand how the world works! you should enlighten me ; ) Im sure you know the bill of rights by heart and you probably could recite the Constitution word for word! right ? ya I’m guessing that you wouldn’t know your ass from a hole in the ground, and you can go ahead and hide your head in that same hole you think is your ass! oh you pointed out my hurried one hand typing, that makes you soooo smart! your prize is the whole internet! So I guess you know your history so well that you know the 16th amendment was drafted by the big banks (jp morgan,chase etc) to make the average citizen pay “taxes” on your trading labor for money. I guess you also know that the Federal Reserve Bank was created at the time that the 16th amendment was illegally pushed through,just like the patriot act and so many other bills that are a assault on our rights!The federal Reserve is a private institution! And I guess you ,in all you shinning intelligence know with all your heart that the government knows whats best for you and NEVER lies! Its great how when people start thinking for themselves instead of letting some one else do it for you you are a “wacko” or in your words Aron”not expressing yourself like a adult” tell you what, every one here that doesnt think that we are being lied to and completely deceived by our “elected” officials, go ahead and keep watching your NFL and your MTV. Keep playing those video games and buying things you dont need. and when you keep ignoring your rights they will disappear. PS dont believe me about the fed reserve or the 16th amendment? how bout actually READING about it before you open your ignorant mouth. I’ve probably forgotten more books than you have read in your whole sheeple life!

]]> By: Aron http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/05/accused-utah-cop-killer-had-antigovernment-views/comment-page-1/#comment-428572 Aron Sun, 08 Apr 2012 18:40:30 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8966#comment-428572 Tony, Judging by your complete and utter ignorance of English grammar, I get the distinct feeling you haven't read very many books yourself. Why don't you come back when you can express yourself like an adult? Tony,

Judging by your complete and utter ignorance of English grammar, I get the distinct feeling you haven’t read very many books yourself. Why don’t you come back when you can express yourself like an adult?

]]> By: Tony http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/05/accused-utah-cop-killer-had-antigovernment-views/comment-page-1/#comment-428505 Tony Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:51:12 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8966#comment-428505 Im sick and tired of the government making people out to be anti american when they dont support the criminal actions our government does in OUR names! I dont agree with what the government does and want them out , am I a anti government terrorist now? Oh theres a pic of my daughter,niece,or other relative when they were toddlers in a bath or some other silly moment, so I guess that makes me a "child pornographer"?! come on people cant you see whats going on here? this is what you would call tyranny! the very definition of it! the police got what they wanted, almost every time they crash through a door in paramilitary gear w assault rifles ready, they are looking for a fight. they heard the hear say of some deranged girlfriend and because she said he would go out in a blaze of glory they tried to "PUNK" him down and show him whos the tuff guys.. well I guess they know now ,they arent as tuff as they think they are. It is our right as american citizens, hell as human beings to protect ourselves and our property from people who seek to do us harm. And I for one am positve those thugs on the OPD strike team are bullies with a gang mentality. go ahead and try to tell me Im wrong! Ive experienced the mentality my self. The police protect each other like gangmebers(lying for each other and fighting physicaly anybody who tests there authority)and they are VIOLENT just like gangmembers! They are the biggest gang in the country and unfortunatly they have the support of the government that is supposed to be representing us, the people! the police are no longer public servants, they are corporate americas servants, as the government is ran by the people that have the most money. and they dont care about us or our families! only there profits! Time to wake up AMERICA, this is what our for fathers warned us about! thats why they wrote the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights the way they did! dont believe me read a book look up Thomas Jefferson and George Washington and Ben Franklin.... Im sick and tired of the government making people out to be anti american when they dont support the criminal actions our government does in OUR names! I dont agree with what the government does and want them out , am I a anti government terrorist now? Oh theres a pic of my daughter,niece,or other relative when they were toddlers in a bath or some other silly moment, so I guess that makes me a “child pornographer”?! come on people cant you see whats going on here? this is what you would call tyranny! the very definition of it! the police got what they wanted, almost every time they crash through a door in paramilitary gear w assault rifles ready, they are looking for a fight. they heard the hear say of some deranged girlfriend and because she said he would go out in a blaze of glory they tried to “PUNK” him down and show him whos the tuff guys.. well I guess they know now ,they arent as tuff as they think they are. It is our right as american citizens, hell as human beings to protect ourselves and our property from people who seek to do us harm. And I for one am positve those thugs on the OPD strike team are bullies with a gang mentality. go ahead and try to tell me Im wrong! Ive experienced the mentality my self. The police protect each other like gangmebers(lying for each other and fighting physicaly anybody who tests there authority)and they are VIOLENT just like gangmembers! They are the biggest gang in the country and unfortunatly they have the support of the government that is supposed to be representing us, the people! the police are no longer public servants, they are corporate americas servants, as the government is ran by the people that have the most money. and they dont care about us or our families! only there profits! Time to wake up AMERICA, this is what our for fathers warned us about! thats why they wrote the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights the way they did! dont believe me read a book look up Thomas Jefferson and George Washington and Ben Franklin….

]]> By: Ian http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/05/accused-utah-cop-killer-had-antigovernment-views/comment-page-1/#comment-427654 Ian Fri, 06 Apr 2012 22:00:25 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8966#comment-427654 CriticalDragon, Many on the far-right to not believe there is a Sixteenth Amendment. They argue that the amdment is invalid because some states passed versions with different punctuation. CriticalDragon,

Many on the far-right to not believe there is a Sixteenth Amendment. They argue that the amdment is invalid because some states passed versions with different punctuation.

]]> By: CriticalDragon1177 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/05/accused-utah-cop-killer-had-antigovernment-views/comment-page-1/#comment-427533 CriticalDragon1177 Fri, 06 Apr 2012 15:14:32 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8966#comment-427533 Aron, I agree, this guy does sound like an Alex Jones crazy. Aron,

I agree, this guy does sound like an Alex Jones crazy.

]]> By: CriticalDragon1177 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/05/accused-utah-cop-killer-had-antigovernment-views/comment-page-1/#comment-427532 CriticalDragon1177 Fri, 06 Apr 2012 15:13:21 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8966#comment-427532 Bill Morlin, He didn't believe the Constitution gives the federal government the right to collect taxes? Just how carefully did he read the constitution, including the sixteenth amendment? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution Bill Morlin,

He didn’t believe the Constitution gives the federal government the right to collect taxes? Just how carefully did he read the constitution, including the sixteenth amendment?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.....nstitution

]]> By: Aron http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/05/accused-utah-cop-killer-had-antigovernment-views/comment-page-1/#comment-427142 Aron Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:16:14 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8966#comment-427142 Yes, arrest him at work. I'm sure that'll go over well. And he was asleep at 8pm? I call shenanigans. This guy has Alex Jones Loser written all over him. (Full disclosure: I am currently playing a video game as I write this.) Yes, arrest him at work. I’m sure that’ll go over well. And he was asleep at 8pm? I call shenanigans.

This guy has Alex Jones Loser written all over him.

(Full disclosure: I am currently playing a video game as I write this.)

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