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	<title>Comments on: Psychiatrist Repudiates Infamous &#8216;Ex-Gay&#8217; Study</title>
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		<title>By: Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-2/#comment-438444</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure that Funi has met many homosexuals in the course of his life. He may not acknowledge that because those men and women do not conform to his notions of what gay people are like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure that Funi has met many homosexuals in the course of his life. He may not acknowledge that because those men and women do not conform to his notions of what gay people are like.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-2/#comment-438334</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rey,

(I can&#039;t believe I&#039;m doing this) but in YellowSnow&#039;s defense, he did state that he is of Sub-Continental lineage some months ago. This isn&#039;t a new development.

But a Mohandas K Gandhi, he ain&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rey,</p>
<p>(I can&#8217;t believe I&#8217;m doing this) but in YellowSnow&#8217;s defense, he did state that he is of Sub-Continental lineage some months ago. This isn&#8217;t a new development.</p>
<p>But a Mohandas K Gandhi, he ain&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-2/#comment-438307</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw, gee, Aron, now the little fellow&#039;s a Hindu whose family came from India. I wonder how he explains certain Hindu dieties who were hermaphroditic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, gee, Aron, now the little fellow&#8217;s a Hindu whose family came from India. I wonder how he explains certain Hindu dieties who were hermaphroditic.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-2/#comment-438279</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funinsnow,

I wasn&#039;t complaining that you DIDN&#039;T LIST ME. I was complaining that you DIDN&#039;T LIST ME FIRST. Afterall, I&#039;m usually the first one you bring up as a &#039;defender of The Evil Gays.&#039;

And I second Supersonic&#039;s comment. Have you ever, ONCE met a homosexual at any point in your life? Because your opinions are so ridiculous as to suggest you haven&#039;t.

And since you seem to enjoy StormFronter company so much, why don&#039;t you head back and STAY THERE.

Better yet, stay here. You provide some much needed comic relief on the site. Keep up that brilliant rhetoric!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funinsnow,</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t complaining that you DIDN&#8217;T LIST ME. I was complaining that you DIDN&#8217;T LIST ME FIRST. Afterall, I&#8217;m usually the first one you bring up as a &#8216;defender of The Evil Gays.&#8217;</p>
<p>And I second Supersonic&#8217;s comment. Have you ever, ONCE met a homosexual at any point in your life? Because your opinions are so ridiculous as to suggest you haven&#8217;t.</p>
<p>And since you seem to enjoy StormFronter company so much, why don&#8217;t you head back and STAY THERE.</p>
<p>Better yet, stay here. You provide some much needed comic relief on the site. Keep up that brilliant rhetoric!</p>
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		<title>By: Supersonic250</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-2/#comment-438246</link>
		<dc:creator>Supersonic250</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, my GOD, shut UP already, Funinsnow.  You&#039;re ignorant, moronic, and you have no argument.  I REALLY doubt you&#039;ve ever even MET a gay man, to have formed such hateful and STUPID opinions.  I hope that from this day forward, every single gay person in your city decides to show up at your door day in and day out to hit on you.  It&#039;d be fitting punishment for someone so BIGOTED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, my GOD, shut UP already, Funinsnow.  You&#8217;re ignorant, moronic, and you have no argument.  I REALLY doubt you&#8217;ve ever even MET a gay man, to have formed such hateful and STUPID opinions.  I hope that from this day forward, every single gay person in your city decides to show up at your door day in and day out to hit on you.  It&#8217;d be fitting punishment for someone so BIGOTED.</p>
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		<title>By: funinsnow</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-2/#comment-438223</link>
		<dc:creator>funinsnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard Lavigueur &amp; I discussed before here on SPLC the ideology of &#039;gay bashings&#039; where RLavigueur discussed my scenario of a man who bashes or kills a gay after the gay grabbed the man&#039;s butt or groin against will.  To repeat, the gay committed a crime assault&amp;battery if his intent was not sexual to something more serious such as sex abuse if intent was-which it usu. is.  Richard Lavigueur said that it was excessive force to kill the gay in that situation but what he wrote may not be that easy. 

1st those situations are unpredictable.  If the gay is committing a crime such as harassing a man in the bathroom or assault&amp;battery, the gay may have other violent intent such as commit a more violent act if he does not get his way or even homosexual rape.  What if the gay is high on drugs when he does what is described?  What if the gay has a past history of committing violence in bathrooms or committing violence on others?  I&#039;ve heard people say that if a gay proposes to a man in the bathroom, that the man should just say &#039;no thanks&#039; but as the gay is committing a crime indecency by proposing in a restroom, there&#039;s no need for the man to say no, just as there&#039;s no need for a shopkeeper to put up a sign which says don&#039;t steal-no need to say no to a crime. 

Bashing or killing a gay who is harassing a man in the public restroom or killing a gay after he has grabbed a man&#039;s butt or groin against will is a jury topic.  Yes, the more violent the reaction, the harder it is to justify, but it&#039;s possible to say that a man who kills a gay after the gay has been harassing him in the bathroom self-defended if he can prove the gay had a more violent intent such as homosexual rape, esp. if the gay was high or has a history of committing violence in bathrooms.  These cases are not so easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Lavigueur &amp; I discussed before here on SPLC the ideology of &#8216;gay bashings&#8217; where RLavigueur discussed my scenario of a man who bashes or kills a gay after the gay grabbed the man&#8217;s butt or groin against will.  To repeat, the gay committed a crime assault&amp;battery if his intent was not sexual to something more serious such as sex abuse if intent was-which it usu. is.  Richard Lavigueur said that it was excessive force to kill the gay in that situation but what he wrote may not be that easy. </p>
<p>1st those situations are unpredictable.  If the gay is committing a crime such as harassing a man in the bathroom or assault&amp;battery, the gay may have other violent intent such as commit a more violent act if he does not get his way or even homosexual rape.  What if the gay is high on drugs when he does what is described?  What if the gay has a past history of committing violence in bathrooms or committing violence on others?  I&#8217;ve heard people say that if a gay proposes to a man in the bathroom, that the man should just say &#8216;no thanks&#8217; but as the gay is committing a crime indecency by proposing in a restroom, there&#8217;s no need for the man to say no, just as there&#8217;s no need for a shopkeeper to put up a sign which says don&#8217;t steal-no need to say no to a crime. </p>
<p>Bashing or killing a gay who is harassing a man in the public restroom or killing a gay after he has grabbed a man&#8217;s butt or groin against will is a jury topic.  Yes, the more violent the reaction, the harder it is to justify, but it&#8217;s possible to say that a man who kills a gay after the gay has been harassing him in the bathroom self-defended if he can prove the gay had a more violent intent such as homosexual rape, esp. if the gay was high or has a history of committing violence in bathrooms.  These cases are not so easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-2/#comment-437517</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funnyshow, we can&#039;t insult you. We can only describe you.</description>
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		<title>By: funinsnow</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-2/#comment-437498</link>
		<dc:creator>funinsnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something to add re. gay bashings, incl. the MW Shepard case.  Unsure if I can name the journalist but will hint.  From Dec. 2011 to Feb. 2012, I wrote on the blog of a former Wyoming reporter who covered the 1999 murder trial. This reporter now lives in Hawaii (never been there) &amp; has her own blog called Big Island Chronicle, where among the topics she has was her 1999 coverage as journalist just out of college.

Anyhow (perhaps some of you have read it under this same ID), I commented on this reporter&#039;s blog mentioning what MW Shepard did 2 months before his death where a drunk MW Shepard 1st proposed to a bartender in Cody for a walk around lake where the bartender told him no.  But rather than end it, MW Shepard continued proposing, grabbed the bartender&#039;s arm &amp; jacket (misdemeanor assault&amp;battery) &amp; made the statement of &#039;you&#039;re afraid of what I can do to you&#039; after which the bartender decked MW Shepard temporaily KO him.  MW Shepard was then taken back to hotel where he was staying with his family. The next day MW Shepard went to Cody cops &amp; made up a story of being homosexually gang raped by 3.  The medical tests only found a fat lip &amp; disproved the rape story as no sex happened.  Cops interviewed bartender, a waitress who saw what happened &amp; concluded the bartender self-defended.

As I wrote on her blog, MW Shepard should&#039;ve been arrested for assault&amp;battery + falsely reporting crime.  When I 1st wrote about this on the reporter&#039;s blog, she became hostile &amp; called me disgusting, not because I said anything she disputed, but rather she got mad that I raised thes facts.  She later toned down.  The fact is that the journalist who had her own bias in favor of homsexuality allowed my comments about MW Shepard such as what he did to the Cody bartender, MW Shepard&#039;s drunkardism &amp; Ecstasy use, because it was factual. 

With gay bashings, it&#039;s hard to get neutral media coverage, because if a reporter were to bring up alleged criminal act the gay did before the man reacted by bashing or killing the gay, gay/lesbian groups can complain to a newspaper or TV stations advertisers &amp; that can be bad business.  Case would be the media coverage in Manhattan Beach Calif. where 18 homosexuals were arrested for indeceny in beach bathrooms-gay/lesbian groups complained after the media gave out the names &amp; photos of the 18 arrested.  The bathroom is the place to use the toilet &amp; wash up.  Those 18 committed a crime, yet the gay/lesbian groups complained after the media announces this.

In 2007, TV host Tucker Carlson talked of how during the 1980s as a teenager, he had beaten up a homosexual who was harassing him in a mall restroom &amp; then he &amp; his friend tied up the gay for the cops to arrest.  Gay groups protested him-they saw nothing wrong with the homosexual harassing Tucker Carlson in the bathroom.  The gay committed a crime &amp; he got bashed by Tucker Carlson.

Gay groups call it &#039;gay panic&#039; but I call it reacting to gay abuse.  Harassing some1 by repeatedly proposing after no has been said is harassment.  Unless you&#039;re self-defending, grabbing some1&#039;s butt or groin against will is assault&amp;battery if the intent is not sexual to something more serious such as sex abuse or even attempted homosexual rape if intent is.  If a homosexual grab&#039;s a man&#039;s butt or groin against will after which the man reacts by bashing or even killing the gay, then the man reacted to a crime the gay did.  Whether the man reacted justly or excessively is a jury topic &amp; if it&#039;s excessive, jury decides what degree it is such as Manslaughter rather than 2d Degree.  

I know what I&#039;m writing here is mostly repeat but I support the right of defense lawyers in gay bashing cases to bring up crime such as harassment, indecency or assault&amp;battery the gay did before the man reacted by bashing or killing him.  If a gay is going to expose himself, then it&#039;s a crime.  Anyhow, I don&#039;t trust media accounts when it comes to covering gay bashings because the topic is ideological that it&#039;s hard to know the reporter&#039;s bias.  With the Internet, if a gay bashing case is not honestly discussed in the press (which it often isn&#039;t), then we&#039;ll use the Internet to bring out facts that the media gave little coverage or distorted &amp; then we&#039;ll make our own conclusions as to what we believe the right verdict is whether it&#039;s acquittal or conviction even if the media &amp; gay groups dislike it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something to add re. gay bashings, incl. the MW Shepard case.  Unsure if I can name the journalist but will hint.  From Dec. 2011 to Feb. 2012, I wrote on the blog of a former Wyoming reporter who covered the 1999 murder trial. This reporter now lives in Hawaii (never been there) &amp; has her own blog called Big Island Chronicle, where among the topics she has was her 1999 coverage as journalist just out of college.</p>
<p>Anyhow (perhaps some of you have read it under this same ID), I commented on this reporter&#8217;s blog mentioning what MW Shepard did 2 months before his death where a drunk MW Shepard 1st proposed to a bartender in Cody for a walk around lake where the bartender told him no.  But rather than end it, MW Shepard continued proposing, grabbed the bartender&#8217;s arm &amp; jacket (misdemeanor assault&amp;battery) &amp; made the statement of &#8216;you&#8217;re afraid of what I can do to you&#8217; after which the bartender decked MW Shepard temporaily KO him.  MW Shepard was then taken back to hotel where he was staying with his family. The next day MW Shepard went to Cody cops &amp; made up a story of being homosexually gang raped by 3.  The medical tests only found a fat lip &amp; disproved the rape story as no sex happened.  Cops interviewed bartender, a waitress who saw what happened &amp; concluded the bartender self-defended.</p>
<p>As I wrote on her blog, MW Shepard should&#8217;ve been arrested for assault&amp;battery + falsely reporting crime.  When I 1st wrote about this on the reporter&#8217;s blog, she became hostile &amp; called me disgusting, not because I said anything she disputed, but rather she got mad that I raised thes facts.  She later toned down.  The fact is that the journalist who had her own bias in favor of homsexuality allowed my comments about MW Shepard such as what he did to the Cody bartender, MW Shepard&#8217;s drunkardism &amp; Ecstasy use, because it was factual. </p>
<p>With gay bashings, it&#8217;s hard to get neutral media coverage, because if a reporter were to bring up alleged criminal act the gay did before the man reacted by bashing or killing the gay, gay/lesbian groups can complain to a newspaper or TV stations advertisers &amp; that can be bad business.  Case would be the media coverage in Manhattan Beach Calif. where 18 homosexuals were arrested for indeceny in beach bathrooms-gay/lesbian groups complained after the media gave out the names &amp; photos of the 18 arrested.  The bathroom is the place to use the toilet &amp; wash up.  Those 18 committed a crime, yet the gay/lesbian groups complained after the media announces this.</p>
<p>In 2007, TV host Tucker Carlson talked of how during the 1980s as a teenager, he had beaten up a homosexual who was harassing him in a mall restroom &amp; then he &amp; his friend tied up the gay for the cops to arrest.  Gay groups protested him-they saw nothing wrong with the homosexual harassing Tucker Carlson in the bathroom.  The gay committed a crime &amp; he got bashed by Tucker Carlson.</p>
<p>Gay groups call it &#8216;gay panic&#8217; but I call it reacting to gay abuse.  Harassing some1 by repeatedly proposing after no has been said is harassment.  Unless you&#8217;re self-defending, grabbing some1&#8217;s butt or groin against will is assault&amp;battery if the intent is not sexual to something more serious such as sex abuse or even attempted homosexual rape if intent is.  If a homosexual grab&#8217;s a man&#8217;s butt or groin against will after which the man reacts by bashing or even killing the gay, then the man reacted to a crime the gay did.  Whether the man reacted justly or excessively is a jury topic &amp; if it&#8217;s excessive, jury decides what degree it is such as Manslaughter rather than 2d Degree.  </p>
<p>I know what I&#8217;m writing here is mostly repeat but I support the right of defense lawyers in gay bashing cases to bring up crime such as harassment, indecency or assault&amp;battery the gay did before the man reacted by bashing or killing him.  If a gay is going to expose himself, then it&#8217;s a crime.  Anyhow, I don&#8217;t trust media accounts when it comes to covering gay bashings because the topic is ideological that it&#8217;s hard to know the reporter&#8217;s bias.  With the Internet, if a gay bashing case is not honestly discussed in the press (which it often isn&#8217;t), then we&#8217;ll use the Internet to bring out facts that the media gave little coverage or distorted &amp; then we&#8217;ll make our own conclusions as to what we believe the right verdict is whether it&#8217;s acquittal or conviction even if the media &amp; gay groups dislike it.</p>
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		<title>By: funinsnow</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-2/#comment-437450</link>
		<dc:creator>funinsnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 12:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reynardine, either you have a poor memory or you&#039;re not honest when you wrote &#039;lying for Jebus&#039; because assuming you forgot, in past posts I&#039;ve written the fact that my parents came from mostly Hindu India &amp; I&#039;m a non-JudeoChristian who is against gay/lesbian activities.  There are non-religious people like me who are against gay/lesbian activities &amp; who oppose sex changes, so don&#039;t assume it&#039;s just Christians.  Also Aron, I did name you in the post.  Ad hominems that you, Reynardine, etc. make against me are expected when you don&#039;t have serious rebuttal.  Keep insulting me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reynardine, either you have a poor memory or you&#8217;re not honest when you wrote &#8216;lying for Jebus&#8217; because assuming you forgot, in past posts I&#8217;ve written the fact that my parents came from mostly Hindu India &amp; I&#8217;m a non-JudeoChristian who is against gay/lesbian activities.  There are non-religious people like me who are against gay/lesbian activities &amp; who oppose sex changes, so don&#8217;t assume it&#8217;s just Christians.  Also Aron, I did name you in the post.  Ad hominems that you, Reynardine, etc. make against me are expected when you don&#8217;t have serious rebuttal.  Keep insulting me.</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-2/#comment-436781</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Hell, Aron, most of us are &quot;usual suspects&quot;. Don&#039;t tax his simple little memory with long lists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Hell, Aron, most of us are &#8220;usual suspects&#8221;. Don&#8217;t tax his simple little memory with long lists.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-2/#comment-435740</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 23:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notevenremotelyfuninsnow,

I&#039;m so insulted you didn&#039;t list me first among your list of &#039;usual suspects.&#039; And congratulations on your being approved by Paul Cameron. I&#039;m sure your imaginary friends are SO proud of you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notevenremotelyfuninsnow,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so insulted you didn&#8217;t list me first among your list of &#8216;usual suspects.&#8217; And congratulations on your being approved by Paul Cameron. I&#8217;m sure your imaginary friends are SO proud of you!</p>
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		<title>By: Supersonic250</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-2/#comment-435730</link>
		<dc:creator>Supersonic250</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..............................................................Funinsnow.  You fail.  Stop trying. You get nothing. You lose.   GOOD DAY SIR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..Funinsnow.  You fail.  Stop trying. You get nothing. You lose.   GOOD DAY SIR.</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-2/#comment-435694</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 21:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like we&#039;re getting the usual funnySnowjob. Lying for jeebus again. Coal in his stocking...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like we&#8217;re getting the usual funnySnowjob. Lying for jeebus again. Coal in his stocking&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: funinsnow</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-2/#comment-435675</link>
		<dc:creator>funinsnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 20:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 thing to add surrounding Matthew Wayne Shepard.  Any1 who sees nothing wrong with MW Shepard&#039;s reckless conduct in the last year of his life has something wrong with them.  THis will be repeat but why MW Shepard was killed, only he &amp; his killers know.  If it had been a straight man with a history of harassing women who got killed in the same way MW Shepard was in an unrelated crime, my guess would be many of those who mourned MW Shepard would say what a pig the straight man was &amp; why they can&#039;t mourn him.

If that is your belief, then don&#039;t complain about me not mourning Matthew Shepard.  I see something wrong with what MW Shepard did to the Cody bartender 2 months before his death.  I also see something wrong with MW Shepard continuing to be promiscuous even after he feared he had AIDS-incidentally there are even gays who have said that MW Shepard was a despicable person for doing this so it&#039;s not just homophobes like me (I&#039;m glad I&#039;m a homophobe) who say this about MW Shepard.  I also see something wrong with MW Shepard taking Ecstasy &amp; alcohol which worsened his PTSD &amp; depression-he also took depression Meds. His killing in Oct. 1998 is a minor topic &amp; no he should not have been killed, but his killing in Oct. 1998 does not change the fact that MW Shepard was a reckless person who worsened his PTSD &amp; depression in the ways written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 thing to add surrounding Matthew Wayne Shepard.  Any1 who sees nothing wrong with MW Shepard&#8217;s reckless conduct in the last year of his life has something wrong with them.  THis will be repeat but why MW Shepard was killed, only he &amp; his killers know.  If it had been a straight man with a history of harassing women who got killed in the same way MW Shepard was in an unrelated crime, my guess would be many of those who mourned MW Shepard would say what a pig the straight man was &amp; why they can&#8217;t mourn him.</p>
<p>If that is your belief, then don&#8217;t complain about me not mourning Matthew Shepard.  I see something wrong with what MW Shepard did to the Cody bartender 2 months before his death.  I also see something wrong with MW Shepard continuing to be promiscuous even after he feared he had AIDS-incidentally there are even gays who have said that MW Shepard was a despicable person for doing this so it&#8217;s not just homophobes like me (I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m a homophobe) who say this about MW Shepard.  I also see something wrong with MW Shepard taking Ecstasy &amp; alcohol which worsened his PTSD &amp; depression-he also took depression Meds. His killing in Oct. 1998 is a minor topic &amp; no he should not have been killed, but his killing in Oct. 1998 does not change the fact that MW Shepard was a reckless person who worsened his PTSD &amp; depression in the ways written.</p>
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		<title>By: funinsnow</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-1/#comment-435671</link>
		<dc:creator>funinsnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 20:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam Molloy, gay &amp; lesbian groups admit that Harvey B. Milk committed homosexual statutory rape on a 16 year old drug addict in 1964-Calif. age of consent is 18.  Yes, many states have lowered the consent age (which is a bad idea) to 16 &amp; in some nations 16 is the consent age, but Harvey Milk was a homosexual statutory rapist.  Harvey Milk also bragged about having sex in parks, so his other crime was indecency.  Dan (DJ) White as mentioned in a past post by me  was a decorated Vietnam War Sergeant, SF Fireman &amp; Policeman who once saved the life of a woman &amp; her baby from a burning building &amp; as I see it, Daniel James (DJ) White killing Harvey Milk in 1978 was doing what the Calif. authorities didn&#039;t do to Harvey Milk in 1964.  Harvey Bernard Milk in 1978 should&#039;ve been a convicted felon &amp; I don&#039;t mourn his death.  

As to Matthew Shepard, his mom Judy Shepard doesn&#039;t deny that her son made up a story of being homosexually gang raped by 3 in Aug. 1998, 2 months before his death against a Cody bartender.  The excuse Judy Shepard makes is that her son was drunk , had PTSD &amp; once the medical tests disproved his story, he &#039;dropped&#039; the charge, when it&#039;s the Cody authorities who did so.  Maybe MW Shepard believed his story-only he knows his intent.  But MW Shepard chose to be reckless in the last year of his life by getting drunk, using drugs such as Ecstasy &amp; he continued to be promiscuous even after he feared he had AIDS.  Do you see something wrong with this?  If a man were to keep having sex with women after he believes he has a Venereal Disease (I like old word VD), many would say what a dirty pig the straight man is.  MW Shepard was a reckless person who chose to worsen himself.  

Finally, yes I&#039;m predictable on the homosexual topic.  I&#039;ve talked to Dr. Paul Drummond Cameron-called him on March 23, April 3 &amp; 4 2012 to inform him of how I defend him here on the SPLC message board where he thanked me.  But the SPLC is predictable &amp; the views given by Erika, Sam Molloy, Aron, Richard L, Karen a old tired lesbian &amp; Ruslan, etc. are also predictable because it&#039;s not like SPLC offers much which is new on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam Molloy, gay &amp; lesbian groups admit that Harvey B. Milk committed homosexual statutory rape on a 16 year old drug addict in 1964-Calif. age of consent is 18.  Yes, many states have lowered the consent age (which is a bad idea) to 16 &amp; in some nations 16 is the consent age, but Harvey Milk was a homosexual statutory rapist.  Harvey Milk also bragged about having sex in parks, so his other crime was indecency.  Dan (DJ) White as mentioned in a past post by me  was a decorated Vietnam War Sergeant, SF Fireman &amp; Policeman who once saved the life of a woman &amp; her baby from a burning building &amp; as I see it, Daniel James (DJ) White killing Harvey Milk in 1978 was doing what the Calif. authorities didn&#8217;t do to Harvey Milk in 1964.  Harvey Bernard Milk in 1978 should&#8217;ve been a convicted felon &amp; I don&#8217;t mourn his death.  </p>
<p>As to Matthew Shepard, his mom Judy Shepard doesn&#8217;t deny that her son made up a story of being homosexually gang raped by 3 in Aug. 1998, 2 months before his death against a Cody bartender.  The excuse Judy Shepard makes is that her son was drunk , had PTSD &amp; once the medical tests disproved his story, he &#8216;dropped&#8217; the charge, when it&#8217;s the Cody authorities who did so.  Maybe MW Shepard believed his story-only he knows his intent.  But MW Shepard chose to be reckless in the last year of his life by getting drunk, using drugs such as Ecstasy &amp; he continued to be promiscuous even after he feared he had AIDS.  Do you see something wrong with this?  If a man were to keep having sex with women after he believes he has a Venereal Disease (I like old word VD), many would say what a dirty pig the straight man is.  MW Shepard was a reckless person who chose to worsen himself.  </p>
<p>Finally, yes I&#8217;m predictable on the homosexual topic.  I&#8217;ve talked to Dr. Paul Drummond Cameron-called him on March 23, April 3 &amp; 4 2012 to inform him of how I defend him here on the SPLC message board where he thanked me.  But the SPLC is predictable &amp; the views given by Erika, Sam Molloy, Aron, Richard L, Karen a old tired lesbian &amp; Ruslan, etc. are also predictable because it&#8217;s not like SPLC offers much which is new on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-1/#comment-435484</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregory, I don&#039;t really think that anyone responds to fun(maybeforhimbutnotforanywomanunfortuanteenoughtobewithhim)insnow seriously.  I basically see him as hilarious because nobody can possibly be that backwards in their view of sexuality (unless fun(forhimbuttheprostituteheswithisfaking)insnow is really Doug Wilson).  Hmmm - maybe the SPLC should investigate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregory, I don&#8217;t really think that anyone responds to fun(maybeforhimbutnotforanywomanunfortuanteenoughtobewithhim)insnow seriously.  I basically see him as hilarious because nobody can possibly be that backwards in their view of sexuality (unless fun(forhimbuttheprostituteheswithisfaking)insnow is really Doug Wilson).  Hmmm &#8211; maybe the SPLC should investigate.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-1/#comment-435468</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregory,

You are absolutely right. But I do get a minor power trip smashing Funi into powder. You&#039;d ve gotta get your jollies where you can, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregory,</p>
<p>You are absolutely right. But I do get a minor power trip smashing Funi into powder. You&#8217;d ve gotta get your jollies where you can, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Molloy</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-1/#comment-435280</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Molloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 06:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it may be emotionally unhealthy for both parties for a 33 year old to have sex with a 16 year old, in many states 16 is technically the legal age of consent. None of the allegations against Harvey milk or Matthew Shepherd can be proven, and neither is as bad as shooting Harvey Milk or beating Matthew Shepherd and leaving him to die slowly, tied to a fence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it may be emotionally unhealthy for both parties for a 33 year old to have sex with a 16 year old, in many states 16 is technically the legal age of consent. None of the allegations against Harvey milk or Matthew Shepherd can be proven, and neither is as bad as shooting Harvey Milk or beating Matthew Shepherd and leaving him to die slowly, tied to a fence.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-1/#comment-435221</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 05:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My $0.02: At this point, the only annoying thing about Funi are those who respond to him as though he were a serious participant in the conversation. Honest mistakes, usually, earnest attempts at engagement by those who have never interacted with our linguistically and intellectually challenged friend.

His shtick has become so repetitive and predictable that it barely merits ridicule. At least &quot;Jason Smith&quot;, or the committee posting under that moniker, introduces new elements of stupidity with each comment. As a classic attention whore, he has taken Wilde&#039;s comments to heart, that the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.

Anyway, I will understand if the moderator chooses not to publish my little rant, because it has fuck all to do with the topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My $0.02: At this point, the only annoying thing about Funi are those who respond to him as though he were a serious participant in the conversation. Honest mistakes, usually, earnest attempts at engagement by those who have never interacted with our linguistically and intellectually challenged friend.</p>
<p>His shtick has become so repetitive and predictable that it barely merits ridicule. At least &#8220;Jason Smith&#8221;, or the committee posting under that moniker, introduces new elements of stupidity with each comment. As a classic attention whore, he has taken Wilde&#8217;s comments to heart, that the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.</p>
<p>Anyway, I will understand if the moderator chooses not to publish my little rant, because it has fuck all to do with the topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-1/#comment-435071</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 01:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ModerateMike,

But your wife MUST become celibate! Funinsnow is the Supreme World Arbiter for Sexual Morals, and His word is Law. Defy Him at your peril!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ModerateMike,</p>
<p>But your wife MUST become celibate! Funinsnow is the Supreme World Arbiter for Sexual Morals, and His word is Law. Defy Him at your peril!</p>
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		<title>By: ModerateMike</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-1/#comment-434981</link>
		<dc:creator>ModerateMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 22:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Aron, the more he visits this forum, the more exposure he gets to tolerant viewpoints. As much as he complains about topic reruns and repeat posts, these things obviously don&#039;t bother him as much as he says, or he would not keep posting to this site.

On another note, I sure hope my wife doesn&#039;t decide to become celibate when she hits menopause!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Aron, the more he visits this forum, the more exposure he gets to tolerant viewpoints. As much as he complains about topic reruns and repeat posts, these things obviously don&#8217;t bother him as much as he says, or he would not keep posting to this site.</p>
<p>On another note, I sure hope my wife doesn&#8217;t decide to become celibate when she hits menopause!</p>
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		<title>By: Supersonic250</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-1/#comment-434897</link>
		<dc:creator>Supersonic250</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funinsnow said, &quot;can impact some1&quot; &quot;every1&quot;

....The very fact that you did not bother to spell out &quot;one&quot; invalidates any argument you made, homophobic and ignorant drivel that it is.  You fail at spelling, you fail at grammar, you fail at arguments, you fail period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funinsnow said, &#8220;can impact some1&#8243; &#8220;every1&#8243;</p>
<p>&#8230;.The very fact that you did not bother to spell out &#8220;one&#8221; invalidates any argument you made, homophobic and ignorant drivel that it is.  You fail at spelling, you fail at grammar, you fail at arguments, you fail period.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-1/#comment-434856</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ModerateMike,

You will find that SnowForBrains feels that post-menopausal women SHOULD NOT have sexual relations. For what legitimate reason, I don&#039;t know. Not that he has any legitimate reasons for any of his other opinions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ModerateMike,</p>
<p>You will find that SnowForBrains feels that post-menopausal women SHOULD NOT have sexual relations. For what legitimate reason, I don&#8217;t know. Not that he has any legitimate reasons for any of his other opinions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-1/#comment-434850</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chatterly. Hit alt instead of shift (tiny keyboard)</description>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-1/#comment-434849</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;know something, Funnyshow, I am reminded of the best line ever from &quot;Lady 9hatterly&#039;s Lover&quot;. It&#039;s where Mellors said that if folks would do their own effing, they wouldn&#039;t talk a lot of clatfart about other people&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;know something, Funnyshow, I am reminded of the best line ever from &#8220;Lady 9hatterly&#8217;s Lover&#8221;. It&#8217;s where Mellors said that if folks would do their own effing, they wouldn&#8217;t talk a lot of clatfart about other people&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-1/#comment-434848</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rey,

You know what dead carp means: time to make the gefilte fish!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rey,</p>
<p>You know what dead carp means: time to make the gefilte fish!</p>
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		<title>By: ModerateMike</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-1/#comment-434786</link>
		<dc:creator>ModerateMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gay/lesbian activities are useless &amp; it’s best for gays/lesbians to be celibate.&quot;

So are heterosexual activities after a woman reaches menopause, if you are talking strictly about reproduction. Should couples over 50 remain celibate as well?

But what if someone realizes genuine happiness through a gay/lesbian relationship? My friend that I mentioned above certainly seems to have, and that is good enough for me. Happiness and loving companionship have their uses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gay/lesbian activities are useless &amp; it’s best for gays/lesbians to be celibate.&#8221;</p>
<p>So are heterosexual activities after a woman reaches menopause, if you are talking strictly about reproduction. Should couples over 50 remain celibate as well?</p>
<p>But what if someone realizes genuine happiness through a gay/lesbian relationship? My friend that I mentioned above certainly seems to have, and that is good enough for me. Happiness and loving companionship have their uses.</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-1/#comment-434244</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aron, that must be the dead carp.</description>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-1/#comment-434224</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said, censure the unpleasant odor.</description>
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		<title>By: funinsnow</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/11/psychiatrist-retracts-infamous-ex-gay-study/comment-page-1/#comment-434205</link>
		<dc:creator>funinsnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reynardine, I don&#039;t believe you or Erika are honest esp. when you call my theory of the link between homosexual rape in youth &amp; adult homosexuality as a pond full of carp.  There are gays themselves who say that they think being repeatedly homosexually raped in youth is a reason they have adult homosexual activities.  This will repeat but why people take part in gay/lesbian activities is the same as why people get heart attacks.  Some people take part in gay/lesbian activities because maybe it&#039;s the result of bad biology possibly genes if it&#039;s inborn or bad hormones just as some people have heart attacks  because of bad genes.  Then some people take part in gay/lesbian activities because they learned this sexual behavior esp. as a result of sex abuse such as homosexual rape.  These people are gay/lesbian behaviorally speaking though orientation may not be gay/lesbian.  It&#039;s the same way that some people have heart attacks because they eat poorly &amp; don&#039;t exercise.

Again, it&#039;s irrelevant to me why some1 takes part in gay/lesbian activities.  Gay/lesbian activities are useless &amp; it&#039;s best for gays/lesbians to be celibate.  Sorry for repeating but if SPLC is going to keep writing about gay/lesbian topics, they&#039;re going to get the same answers by me because this topic is a rerun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reynardine, I don&#8217;t believe you or Erika are honest esp. when you call my theory of the link between homosexual rape in youth &amp; adult homosexuality as a pond full of carp.  There are gays themselves who say that they think being repeatedly homosexually raped in youth is a reason they have adult homosexual activities.  This will repeat but why people take part in gay/lesbian activities is the same as why people get heart attacks.  Some people take part in gay/lesbian activities because maybe it&#8217;s the result of bad biology possibly genes if it&#8217;s inborn or bad hormones just as some people have heart attacks  because of bad genes.  Then some people take part in gay/lesbian activities because they learned this sexual behavior esp. as a result of sex abuse such as homosexual rape.  These people are gay/lesbian behaviorally speaking though orientation may not be gay/lesbian.  It&#8217;s the same way that some people have heart attacks because they eat poorly &amp; don&#8217;t exercise.</p>
<p>Again, it&#8217;s irrelevant to me why some1 takes part in gay/lesbian activities.  Gay/lesbian activities are useless &amp; it&#8217;s best for gays/lesbians to be celibate.  Sorry for repeating but if SPLC is going to keep writing about gay/lesbian topics, they&#8217;re going to get the same answers by me because this topic is a rerun.</p>
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