Comments on: Three Men with White Supremacist Tattoos Convicted in Hate Crime http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/ Hatewatch is a blog of the Southern Poverty Law Center Fri, 24 May 2013 18:34:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Reynardine http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-435746 Reynardine Fri, 20 Apr 2012 23:30:05 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-435746 Erika, that's because you didn't say "Refudiating". You might make the motto, "Exsartaginating the White Race". (Ex= out of. Sartago= frying pan) Erika, that’s because you didn’t say “Refudiating”.

You might make the motto, “Exsartaginating the White Race”.

(Ex= out of. Sartago= frying pan)

]]> By: Jonas Rand http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-435700 Jonas Rand Fri, 20 Apr 2012 21:29:43 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-435700 It's long overdue that some sense of justice is handed to these fascists but the problem goes deeper than a few people. Racism is part of the national paradigm and it needs to be stopped through more than just punishing a few adherents.. It’s long overdue that some sense of justice is handed to these fascists but the problem goes deeper than a few people. Racism is part of the national paradigm and it needs to be stopped through more than just punishing a few adherents..

]]> By: Erika http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-435498 Erika Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:43:04 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-435498 Regarding the intelligence of White Supremacists, I've long believed that if someone started a group called the Ludicrous Knights of the Ku Klux Klan with the motto "Refuting White Supremacy Since 1865" you would find actual White Supremacists ready to join. Regarding the intelligence of White Supremacists, I’ve long believed that if someone started a group called the Ludicrous Knights of the Ku Klux Klan with the motto “Refuting White Supremacy Since 1865″ you would find actual White Supremacists ready to join.

]]> By: Erika http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-435492 Erika Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:37:23 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-435492 Jack, the SBC is afraid that under hate crimes laws their stating their hatred of homosexuality would be made illegal. While that is obviously a foolish belief (um, First Amendment) I look at things this way. If you are worried that stating your religious beliefs will be illegal under a "hate crimes" law the problem is not in the law, but in your religion. Especially, when you claim to follow someone who one of his main teachings was "love your enemies." Jack, the SBC is afraid that under hate crimes laws their stating their hatred of homosexuality would be made illegal. While that is obviously a foolish belief (um, First Amendment) I look at things this way.

If you are worried that stating your religious beliefs will be illegal under a “hate crimes” law the problem is not in the law, but in your religion. Especially, when you claim to follow someone who one of his main teachings was “love your enemies.”

]]> By: Jack Wolford http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-435104 Jack Wolford Fri, 20 Apr 2012 01:56:19 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-435104 Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention hierarchy lobbied strongly against the Hate Crime Bill which became Law . What's wrong with these people ? Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention hierarchy lobbied strongly against the Hate Crime Bill which became Law . What’s wrong with these people ?

]]> By: juror http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-434866 juror Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:38:25 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-434866 I served on this jury and one thing we were not told till after the trial is that the tattoos were acquired while in prison, where apparently, it is a survival tactic to get a "gang" tattoo of some type. Don't get me wrong, these guys are getting exactly what they deserve. And there was no doubt they were guilty. One thing this trial and jury experience taught me is that we live in an AMAZING country where even the "bad guys" get a week out of 12-14 citizens' lives to REALLY listen to their case and try to make a fair judgement on their behalf. We spent 5 1/2 days in court hearing all of the facts and none of us took the task lightly. Despite seeing the tattoos on them, we gave them 100% of our attention and weighed the evidence presented to us to base our decision on...not their tattoos. The prosecutors and court appointed defense attorneys were all fantastic! Our DOJ gets a new respect from me! And I have a new appreciation for our courts and our country as a whole! GOD BLESS AMERICA! I served on this jury and one thing we were not told till after the trial is that the tattoos were acquired while in prison, where apparently, it is a survival tactic to get a “gang” tattoo of some type. Don’t get me wrong, these guys are getting exactly what they deserve. And there was no doubt they were guilty.

One thing this trial and jury experience taught me is that we live in an AMAZING country where even the “bad guys” get a week out of 12-14 citizens’ lives to REALLY listen to their case and try to make a fair judgement on their behalf. We spent 5 1/2 days in court hearing all of the facts and none of us took the task lightly. Despite seeing the tattoos on them, we gave them 100% of our attention and weighed the evidence presented to us to base our decision on…not their tattoos. The prosecutors and court appointed defense attorneys were all fantastic!
Our DOJ gets a new respect from me! And I have a new appreciation for our courts and our country as a whole! GOD BLESS AMERICA!

]]> By: Reynardine http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-434852 Reynardine Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:16:15 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-434852 And talk about wearing your heart on your...where did they have these tattoos? And talk about wearing your heart on your…where did they have these tattoos?

]]> By: Mrs. Tibbs http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-434847 Mrs. Tibbs Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:09:46 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-434847 @Erika, calling the arresting officers racial epithets doesn't help their case either, lol. @Erika, calling the arresting officers racial epithets doesn’t help their case either, lol.

]]> By: Kathryn Stein http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-434825 Kathryn Stein Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:34:42 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-434825 Hate crimes are nothing less than terrorist acts and should be prosecuted as such. Hate crimes are nothing less than terrorist acts and should be prosecuted as such.

]]> By: Ted http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-434820 Ted Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:30:39 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-434820 Wow this may be the first time I have heard of the law working as it should. These criminals deserve to have the book thrown at 'em. Wow this may be the first time I have heard of the law working as it should. These criminals deserve to have the book thrown at ‘em.

]]> By: Howard1912 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-434796 Howard1912 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:53:17 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-434796 I agree with Eika and Shadow you are absolutely right, these people who proclaim "supremacy" are in fact dim wits. The tattoes they feel compelled to get just show their ignorance and hate. They are wearing their "stupidity" on their sleeves for all the world to know. I agree with Eika and Shadow you are absolutely right, these people who proclaim “supremacy” are in fact dim wits. The tattoes they feel compelled to get just show their ignorance and hate. They are wearing their “stupidity” on their sleeves for all the world to know.

]]> By: Louise Savage http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-434795 Louise Savage Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:52:12 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-434795 What horrid people to be filled with so much hate! I am really happy that they were convicted! My heart goes out to all the victims! How can they believe they are Supreme? Sick!!! What horrid people to be filled with so much
hate! I am really happy that they were
convicted! My heart goes out to all the
victims! How can they believe they are
Supreme? Sick!!!

]]> By: Shadow Wolf http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-434106 Shadow Wolf Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:26:26 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-434106 Erika, I agree. Violent and racist WNs are not the brightest bulbs, despite their proclamation of being a "Supreme" or "Superior" etc. Erika,
I agree. Violent and racist WNs are not the brightest bulbs, despite their proclamation of being a “Supreme” or “Superior” etc.

]]> By: Reynardine http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-434063 Reynardine Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:28:50 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-434063 Erika, I'm rather with you, there. Erika, I’m rather with you, there.

]]> By: Erika http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-434053 Erika Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:52:33 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-434053 normally with crimes, it can be difficult to prove that the attack was hate motived and not just an attack for some other purpose such as robbery or the defendant is just a jerk - in those garden variety crimes, I would hestitate to call them hate crimes. but when the defendants have White supremacist tatoos and there was no apparent robbery, it is obviously a hate motivated crime - and these fools just made it easy for the prosecution. prison is where they belong. normally with crimes, it can be difficult to prove that the attack was hate motived and not just an attack for some other purpose such as robbery or the defendant is just a jerk – in those garden variety crimes, I would hestitate to call them hate crimes.

but when the defendants have White supremacist tatoos and there was no apparent robbery, it is obviously a hate motivated crime – and these fools just made it easy for the prosecution. prison is where they belong.

]]> By: Aron http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-434033 Aron Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:56:40 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-434033 Number Six, Very well said. Hear, hear! Number Six,

Very well said. Hear, hear!

]]> By: The Prisoner http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-433904 The Prisoner Wed, 18 Apr 2012 06:20:15 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-433904 'bout time the Feds did something right. Hopefully they can get a guilty verdict when they take over the Trayvon Martin case. ’bout time the Feds did something right. Hopefully they can get a guilty verdict when they take over the Trayvon Martin case.

]]> By: Shadow Wolf http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-433839 Shadow Wolf Wed, 18 Apr 2012 03:38:37 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-433839 They need to start enforcing the Hate Crimes Prevention Act more often. In many instances, local PDs are reluctant to file Hate Crimes in their report, especially if it's an all White male squad responding to such incidents. This is why it's probably a good thing if there is a non-White or female officer on the scene. As was with this case, a couple Black officers were there. It then became a slam dunk Hate Crime incident. They need to start enforcing the Hate Crimes Prevention Act more often. In many instances, local PDs are reluctant to file Hate Crimes in their report, especially if it’s an all White male squad responding to such incidents. This is why it’s probably a good thing if there is a non-White or female officer on the scene. As was with this case, a couple Black officers were there. It then became a slam dunk Hate Crime incident.

]]> By: Reynardine http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/17/three-men-with-white-supremacist-tattoos-convicted-in-hate-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-433701 Reynardine Tue, 17 Apr 2012 20:07:49 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9031#comment-433701 Well, good. Well, good.

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