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	<title>Comments on: The Russians are Coming! ‘Patriot’ Paranoia Run Amok</title>
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		<title>By: Some Guy On The Internet</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-456888</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Guy On The Internet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 18:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is the link to the oh-so-scary article:

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2012/04/30/public-affairs-officer-confirms-russian-troops-will-train-in-colorado/

Here is the entire text of the article, which is quite dull, actually.  It&#039;s merely a confirmation of the rumor that Russian troops would indeed be training here in America.  The comments that follow were made by any Some Guy On The Internet - just like THIS comment.

*begin article content*
Note from Elias Alias: One of our members received written confirmation that Russian troops will be training in Colorado during the month of May, 2012.  The public Affairs Officer who sent us the email, Lieutenant Colonel Steve Osterholzer, was helpful in verifying this, and has granted permission to have his communication with our Oath Keepers member published here at our site.  Following is Lt. Col. Osterholzer’s email content, quoted:
 

Lieutenant Colonel Steve Osterholzer
 
United States Army Public Affairs Officer
 



“Military training between U.S. and Russian forces will in occur in May as part of a national-level Bilateral Program that has been in existence for years.  The U.S. routinely conducts joint training with foreign forces in order to strengthen relationships, enhance familiarization with tactics and procedures, and to exchange best practices.  In May a handful of Russian soldiers will conduct joint training with U.S. forces on Ft. Carson and a day of mountaineer familiarization in the mountains to the east of Ft. Carson.  The training will consist of tasks common to both units; marksmanship, parachute jumps, communications, medical evacuations, etc.  The Russian soldiers will be escorted 24/7 by U.S. military officers and all of the training/discussions will be unclassified.  The end result of this program is an improved understanding of how the other foreign military works, thus enhancing the operational effectiveness of Allied forces.”
 
-end email confirmation by PAO Osterholzer-
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Oath Keepers confirmed a rumor!  They must be CRAZY!!!  Be afraid!  Give up more of your liberties and freedoms to be protected from these CRAZY people!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the link to the oh-so-scary article:</p>
<p><a href="http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2012/04/30/public-affairs-officer-confirms-russian-troops-will-train-in-colorado/" rel="nofollow">http://oathkeepers.org/oath/20.....-colorado/</a></p>
<p>Here is the entire text of the article, which is quite dull, actually.  It&#8217;s merely a confirmation of the rumor that Russian troops would indeed be training here in America.  The comments that follow were made by any Some Guy On The Internet &#8211; just like THIS comment.</p>
<p>*begin article content*<br />
Note from Elias Alias: One of our members received written confirmation that Russian troops will be training in Colorado during the month of May, 2012.  The public Affairs Officer who sent us the email, Lieutenant Colonel Steve Osterholzer, was helpful in verifying this, and has granted permission to have his communication with our Oath Keepers member published here at our site.  Following is Lt. Col. Osterholzer’s email content, quoted:</p>
<p>Lieutenant Colonel Steve Osterholzer</p>
<p>United States Army Public Affairs Officer</p>
<p>“Military training between U.S. and Russian forces will in occur in May as part of a national-level Bilateral Program that has been in existence for years.  The U.S. routinely conducts joint training with foreign forces in order to strengthen relationships, enhance familiarization with tactics and procedures, and to exchange best practices.  In May a handful of Russian soldiers will conduct joint training with U.S. forces on Ft. Carson and a day of mountaineer familiarization in the mountains to the east of Ft. Carson.  The training will consist of tasks common to both units; marksmanship, parachute jumps, communications, medical evacuations, etc.  The Russian soldiers will be escorted 24/7 by U.S. military officers and all of the training/discussions will be unclassified.  The end result of this program is an improved understanding of how the other foreign military works, thus enhancing the operational effectiveness of Allied forces.”</p>
<p>-end email confirmation by PAO Osterholzer-<br />
*end article content*</p>
<p>Oath Keepers confirmed a rumor!  They must be CRAZY!!!  Be afraid!  Give up more of your liberties and freedoms to be protected from these CRAZY people!!!</p>
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		<title>By: jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-452024</link>
		<dc:creator>jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 23:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alot of your comments are very suprising. Those who think this is paranoia like 50 years ago wake up. If this administration was in power 50 years ago we would not be around today. They are in fact taking away our rights every day more and more and here I see many of the people who are asleep letting them do this are on this forum. The oath keepers are very real Jason. You think they aren&#039;t a real movement because you couldn&#039;t find much on google?? LOL get away from your computer for a few hours a day. You&#039;ll wake up. You&#039;ll see the real world and maybe realize you are almost out of civil rights, and our constitution is almost totally null and void.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alot of your comments are very suprising. Those who think this is paranoia like 50 years ago wake up. If this administration was in power 50 years ago we would not be around today. They are in fact taking away our rights every day more and more and here I see many of the people who are asleep letting them do this are on this forum. The oath keepers are very real Jason. You think they aren&#8217;t a real movement because you couldn&#8217;t find much on google?? LOL get away from your computer for a few hours a day. You&#8217;ll wake up. You&#8217;ll see the real world and maybe realize you are almost out of civil rights, and our constitution is almost totally null and void.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-451098</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 00:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve, the only fool here seems to be you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, the only fool here seems to be you.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-450740</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 15:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t a Russian General just threaten pre-emptive action against our planned NATO missile defense system.  How do you make a threat like that on one hand and then come over to have hot dogs and Vodka at Ft. Carson on the next?  One thing I&#039;ve learned is to NEVER underestimate your enemy.  In this case, it seems our enemy may very well be our own government.  After all, they probably would not use American troops to impose any kind of martial law because the American troops would be reluctant to carry out some of the orders where foreign troops would have no problem carrying them out.  But, if you don&#039;t want give this the consideration that it deserves, don&#039;t yell to loudly when they come to lock you up and drag your daughter off.  Don&#039;t say it can&#039;t happen.  Only fools think that way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t a Russian General just threaten pre-emptive action against our planned NATO missile defense system.  How do you make a threat like that on one hand and then come over to have hot dogs and Vodka at Ft. Carson on the next?  One thing I&#8217;ve learned is to NEVER underestimate your enemy.  In this case, it seems our enemy may very well be our own government.  After all, they probably would not use American troops to impose any kind of martial law because the American troops would be reluctant to carry out some of the orders where foreign troops would have no problem carrying them out.  But, if you don&#8217;t want give this the consideration that it deserves, don&#8217;t yell to loudly when they come to lock you up and drag your daughter off.  Don&#8217;t say it can&#8217;t happen.  Only fools think that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Disavowed 1</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-445555</link>
		<dc:creator>Disavowed 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 13:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why let the truth stand in the way of a good story? That&#039;s how they roll.

-BD]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why let the truth stand in the way of a good story? That&#8217;s how they roll.</p>
<p>-BD</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-444819</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 17:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why didn&#039;t SPLC provide a link to the Oath Keeper&#039;s article? That is common web practice. One was provided to the news article they wrote about, so why not to their article?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t SPLC provide a link to the Oath Keeper&#8217;s article? That is common web practice. One was provided to the news article they wrote about, so why not to their article?</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-444146</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 22:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hell, ADM, he&#039;s in a backward-moving time machine, which has turned him back into an egg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell, ADM, he&#8217;s in a backward-moving time machine, which has turned him back into an egg.</p>
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		<title>By: A.D.M.</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-444063</link>
		<dc:creator>A.D.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 19:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jason, just stop. You&#039;re making yourself look stupid everytime you type a dumbass comment. You even typed 1965 to 1920. First, it&#039;s the other way around. Second, lynchings occured way before 1920 and even after 1965. Third, acts of violence in other countries have nothing to do with acts of violence in the U.S. Fourth, Ruslan just smacked your ass back to reality. Then again, your reality is full of shit given the fact ALL political ideologies involved killing folks including democracy. Step away from your computer, dummy, because can&#039;t out argue anyone here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, just stop. You&#8217;re making yourself look stupid everytime you type a dumbass comment. You even typed 1965 to 1920. First, it&#8217;s the other way around. Second, lynchings occured way before 1920 and even after 1965. Third, acts of violence in other countries have nothing to do with acts of violence in the U.S. Fourth, Ruslan just smacked your ass back to reality. Then again, your reality is full of shit given the fact ALL political ideologies involved killing folks including democracy. Step away from your computer, dummy, because can&#8217;t out argue anyone here.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-444039</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 19:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jason, I&#039;ve dealt with your claims before. Now let me again explain to you why you are a complete moron, and the greatest argument AGAINST &quot;white&quot; superiority in person.  

For this thought experiment, let&#039;s just assume that you&#039;re idiotic claims about Communism are true(in fact they are not; and Solzhenitsyn was no historian).  I&#039;m also going to assume that the number of lynchings you quoted was correct, although it&#039;s really hard to say because for one thing, many lynchings were not performed by the KKK.  The problem is that what happened in China or the Soviet Union has f--- all to do with what happened in America. 

&quot;There were systems of slave labor in these countries. For civilians.&quot;

Hmm....I think there used to be a system of slave labor in America too...for civilians!  In fact there still is today, it&#039;s called a prison system.

 &quot;They were called Gulags, or ‘Re-education camps’.&quot;

&quot;Gulag&quot; does not mean &#039;Re-education camp.&#039;  The term is a Russian acronym meaning &quot;Main Administration of Correctional-Labor Camps and Colonies.&quot;  These comprised the correctional system of the USSR and the majority of prisoners were always common-law criminals. 

&quot;Now let’s do some math. Let’s take our figure of 80 million (Communist civilian deaths),&quot;

The figure you pulled out of your ass.

&quot; and divide by two thousand (the KKK figure).&quot;

The other number you pulled out of your ass.

&quot; I come up with a factor of 40,000.&quot;

And yet another number emerges from the depths of your ass.

&quot; Thus I argue that Communism was 40,000 times more evil than the KKK ever was! That’s more than four orders of magnitude.&quot;

Thus I argue based on the above that you are a complete window-licking moron.  If &quot;evil&quot; is somehow measured in body counts, then this creates a few problems.  For example, the commonly accepted figure for deaths due to Stalin(which is still wrong) is 20 million.  Ghengis Khan is alleged to have been responsible for as many as 30 million deaths, perhaps more(mostly Chinese peasants who starved in sieges).  So I guess everyone needs to stop criticizing Stalin now, because according to your bizarre logic, Ghengis Khan scored 10 million more evil points.  

Also, you gave a figure of 2,000 for people lynched by the KKK.  If we assume that figure is correct, but then consider ALL racial violence directed against blacks in America, we would obviously get a much higher figure(even if we do not include the centuries of slavery).  By comparison, Enver Hoxha, Communist leader of Albania, has a four-digit body count from 1944-85.  So I guess your KKK and their sympathizers are more evil than Hoxha in your book.  

Then there is the pesky issue of Hitler.  If you simply measure &quot;evil&quot; by body counts, then you MUST put Hitler somewhere on the evil scale. So tell us Jason, how evil is Hitler. I want to hear it from the horse&#039;s mouth, since I KNOW you&#039;re just being totally objective and it would be ever so wrong of us to call you a Nazi sympathizer. Right?  

Lastly:  Stalin died in 1953, Mao died in 1976.  The chances of Stalin or Mao coming to power in the US are nil.  The KKK, on the other hand, still exists, along with many similarly minded organizations. While their actions have been heavily curtailed since the 1960&#039;s, they still occasionally commit acts of racial violence.  Ergo, they are relevant, Mao and Stalin are not.  

In short, you lose, yet again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, I&#8217;ve dealt with your claims before. Now let me again explain to you why you are a complete moron, and the greatest argument AGAINST &#8220;white&#8221; superiority in person.  </p>
<p>For this thought experiment, let&#8217;s just assume that you&#8217;re idiotic claims about Communism are true(in fact they are not; and Solzhenitsyn was no historian).  I&#8217;m also going to assume that the number of lynchings you quoted was correct, although it&#8217;s really hard to say because for one thing, many lynchings were not performed by the KKK.  The problem is that what happened in China or the Soviet Union has f&#8212; all to do with what happened in America. </p>
<p>&#8220;There were systems of slave labor in these countries. For civilians.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230;.I think there used to be a system of slave labor in America too&#8230;for civilians!  In fact there still is today, it&#8217;s called a prison system.</p>
<p> &#8220;They were called Gulags, or ‘Re-education camps’.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Gulag&#8221; does not mean &#8216;Re-education camp.&#8217;  The term is a Russian acronym meaning &#8220;Main Administration of Correctional-Labor Camps and Colonies.&#8221;  These comprised the correctional system of the USSR and the majority of prisoners were always common-law criminals. </p>
<p>&#8220;Now let’s do some math. Let’s take our figure of 80 million (Communist civilian deaths),&#8221;</p>
<p>The figure you pulled out of your ass.</p>
<p>&#8221; and divide by two thousand (the KKK figure).&#8221;</p>
<p>The other number you pulled out of your ass.</p>
<p>&#8221; I come up with a factor of 40,000.&#8221;</p>
<p>And yet another number emerges from the depths of your ass.</p>
<p>&#8221; Thus I argue that Communism was 40,000 times more evil than the KKK ever was! That’s more than four orders of magnitude.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thus I argue based on the above that you are a complete window-licking moron.  If &#8220;evil&#8221; is somehow measured in body counts, then this creates a few problems.  For example, the commonly accepted figure for deaths due to Stalin(which is still wrong) is 20 million.  Ghengis Khan is alleged to have been responsible for as many as 30 million deaths, perhaps more(mostly Chinese peasants who starved in sieges).  So I guess everyone needs to stop criticizing Stalin now, because according to your bizarre logic, Ghengis Khan scored 10 million more evil points.  </p>
<p>Also, you gave a figure of 2,000 for people lynched by the KKK.  If we assume that figure is correct, but then consider ALL racial violence directed against blacks in America, we would obviously get a much higher figure(even if we do not include the centuries of slavery).  By comparison, Enver Hoxha, Communist leader of Albania, has a four-digit body count from 1944-85.  So I guess your KKK and their sympathizers are more evil than Hoxha in your book.  </p>
<p>Then there is the pesky issue of Hitler.  If you simply measure &#8220;evil&#8221; by body counts, then you MUST put Hitler somewhere on the evil scale. So tell us Jason, how evil is Hitler. I want to hear it from the horse&#8217;s mouth, since I KNOW you&#8217;re just being totally objective and it would be ever so wrong of us to call you a Nazi sympathizer. Right?  </p>
<p>Lastly:  Stalin died in 1953, Mao died in 1976.  The chances of Stalin or Mao coming to power in the US are nil.  The KKK, on the other hand, still exists, along with many similarly minded organizations. While their actions have been heavily curtailed since the 1960&#8242;s, they still occasionally commit acts of racial violence.  Ergo, they are relevant, Mao and Stalin are not.  </p>
<p>In short, you lose, yet again.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-444019</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 18:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This should be fun.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-444012</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 18:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then Jason shows up and proves Mark&#039;s point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then Jason shows up and proves Mark&#8217;s point.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-443996</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 17:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow!  I&#039;m glad I got Mark Potok to respond to me.  Mark, let me explain how your whole worldview is wrong and I&#039;ll do it with orders of magnitude.  We&#039;re told the KKK for example is evil.  I&#039;ve researched this, and the total number of blacks lynched between 1965 and 1920 was about 2,000 individuals.  Compare this with the crimes of Communism.  Stalin sent 40 million people to gulags.  20 million died.  Mao killed 30 million people before the cultural revolution, and another 30 million after the cultural revolution.  Communists murdered people in Cambodia, Vietnam, Cuba, Angola.  All told, Communism murdered about 90 million people in the 20th century.  

I&#039;m not talking about people killed in war.  There were systems of slave labor in these countries.  For civilians.  They were called Gulags, or &#039;Re-education camps&#039;.  Read Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn&#039;s, &quot;Gulag Archipelago.&quot;  Such camps exist right now in North Korea.  Read, &quot;Escape from Camp 14&quot; by Shin Dong-huyk  http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/i-thought-the-outside-world-was-paradise-says-the-only-north-korean-to-escape-from-prison-camp-7696913.html

Now let&#039;s do some math.  Let&#039;s take our figure of 80 million (Communist civilian deaths), and divide by two thousand (the KKK figure).  I come up with a factor of 40,000.  Thus I argue that Communism was 40,000 times more evil than the KKK ever was!  That&#039;s more than four orders of magnitude.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  I&#8217;m glad I got Mark Potok to respond to me.  Mark, let me explain how your whole worldview is wrong and I&#8217;ll do it with orders of magnitude.  We&#8217;re told the KKK for example is evil.  I&#8217;ve researched this, and the total number of blacks lynched between 1965 and 1920 was about 2,000 individuals.  Compare this with the crimes of Communism.  Stalin sent 40 million people to gulags.  20 million died.  Mao killed 30 million people before the cultural revolution, and another 30 million after the cultural revolution.  Communists murdered people in Cambodia, Vietnam, Cuba, Angola.  All told, Communism murdered about 90 million people in the 20th century.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not talking about people killed in war.  There were systems of slave labor in these countries.  For civilians.  They were called Gulags, or &#8216;Re-education camps&#8217;.  Read Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn&#8217;s, &#8220;Gulag Archipelago.&#8221;  Such camps exist right now in North Korea.  Read, &#8220;Escape from Camp 14&#8243; by Shin Dong-huyk  <a href="http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/i-thought-the-outside-world-was-paradise-says-the-only-north-korean-to-escape-from-prison-camp-7696913.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/.....96913.html</a></p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s do some math.  Let&#8217;s take our figure of 80 million (Communist civilian deaths), and divide by two thousand (the KKK figure).  I come up with a factor of 40,000.  Thus I argue that Communism was 40,000 times more evil than the KKK ever was!  That&#8217;s more than four orders of magnitude.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Potok</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-443842</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Potok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 13:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jason, you really are an idiot. The Oath Keepers are quite active, in fact, as anyone who spends five minutes looking at news stories would know. I understand you&#039;ve got a professional interest in dissing the very idea that these groups exist, but, really, you ought to take cognizance of reality from time to time. It&#039;s great to live in the real world!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, you really are an idiot. The Oath Keepers are quite active, in fact, as anyone who spends five minutes looking at news stories would know. I understand you&#8217;ve got a professional interest in dissing the very idea that these groups exist, but, really, you ought to take cognizance of reality from time to time. It&#8217;s great to live in the real world!</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-443506</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 02:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jason, meet Dude. This should be interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, meet Dude. This should be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-443454</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 01:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh you&#039;re from the Oath Keepers?  That&#039;s great, maybe you can explain why you guys weren&#039;t so loud during the Bush era, and why you found it so much more likely that Obama would issue &quot;unconstitutional orders.&quot;  I&#039;m sure you can provide us with some third-party confirmation of your actions during  the Bush administration.   Also, were you aware that the US Constitution leaves the responsibility of determining the constitutionality of laws up to the Supreme Court, and not military personnel?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh you&#8217;re from the Oath Keepers?  That&#8217;s great, maybe you can explain why you guys weren&#8217;t so loud during the Bush era, and why you found it so much more likely that Obama would issue &#8220;unconstitutional orders.&#8221;  I&#8217;m sure you can provide us with some third-party confirmation of your actions during  the Bush administration.   Also, were you aware that the US Constitution leaves the responsibility of determining the constitutionality of laws up to the Supreme Court, and not military personnel?</p>
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		<title>By: Dude.... really?</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-443370</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude.... really?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9083#comment-443370</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m an Oath Keeper and this article is complete B.S.

No such warning was issued, at all, ever.  This article stems from a forum post inside the OathKeeper&#039;s website.  Some of the more conspiracy minded folks (a small minority that we rarely tolerate) brought it up. Most of us called B.S. from the outset.  

We expect more from you guys at the SPLC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an Oath Keeper and this article is complete B.S.</p>
<p>No such warning was issued, at all, ever.  This article stems from a forum post inside the OathKeeper&#8217;s website.  Some of the more conspiracy minded folks (a small minority that we rarely tolerate) brought it up. Most of us called B.S. from the outset.  </p>
<p>We expect more from you guys at the SPLC.</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-443187</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flex, she does seem to be having a psychotic break.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flex, she does seem to be having a psychotic break.</p>
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		<title>By: Flex</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-443144</link>
		<dc:creator>Flex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kate,

 take your meds....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate,</p>
<p> take your meds&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-443131</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9083#comment-443131</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The words of Gorbachev are pretty much worthless; the man has been delusional for years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The words of Gorbachev are pretty much worthless; the man has been delusional for years.</p>
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		<title>By: IludiumPhosdex</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-442625</link>
		<dc:creator>IludiumPhosdex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9083#comment-442625</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[In case we&#039;ve forgotten World War II history, let&#039;s not forget that the then-Soviet Union was on the Allied side, alongside the Americans, British and French, in opposition to the Fascist/Nazi cause (&lt;i&gt;cf.&lt;/i&gt; Nazi propaganda about the danger of &quot;Bolshievism&quot;, an early code word for Communism).

That the Soviets had a judge on the same judicial panel as the aforementioned Allies at the Nuremburg War Crimes Tribunal of 1945-46.

And that the Soviets were among the Four Allied Powers of Occupation in postwar Germany until the formal partition into sovereign West Germany (the former American, British and French Zones) and East Germany (the former Soviet Zone) in 1949, with a similar status in a divided Berlin, then inside East Germany and technically something of a state unto itself; eventually to be reunified as one on October 3, 1990.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case we&#8217;ve forgotten World War II history, let&#8217;s not forget that the then-Soviet Union was on the Allied side, alongside the Americans, British and French, in opposition to the Fascist/Nazi cause (<i>cf.</i> Nazi propaganda about the danger of &#8220;Bolshievism&#8221;, an early code word for Communism).</p>
<p>That the Soviets had a judge on the same judicial panel as the aforementioned Allies at the Nuremburg War Crimes Tribunal of 1945-46.</p>
<p>And that the Soviets were among the Four Allied Powers of Occupation in postwar Germany until the formal partition into sovereign West Germany (the former American, British and French Zones) and East Germany (the former Soviet Zone) in 1949, with a similar status in a divided Berlin, then inside East Germany and technically something of a state unto itself; eventually to be reunified as one on October 3, 1990.</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-442598</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All this stuff is making me want to hunt up some more Leonid Kharitonov videos on Youtube, and maybe Yevgenii Belyaev.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this stuff is making me want to hunt up some more Leonid Kharitonov videos on Youtube, and maybe Yevgenii Belyaev.</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-442595</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dammit, Ruslan, at least they taught him to spell F-U-K right (I hope) (wonder if prudish mods will strike again)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dammit, Ruslan, at least they taught him to spell F-U-K right (I hope) (wonder if prudish mods will strike again)</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-442592</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aron: see Nile]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aron: see Nile</p>
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		<title>By: Shadow Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-442519</link>
		<dc:creator>Shadow Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 21:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9083#comment-442519</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Irony. 
Speaking of &quot;Russians&quot;. Former USSR(CCCP) President Mikhail Gorbachev, was in Phoenix last Saturday, giving an educational presentation on &quot;Global leadership&quot;(ka-ching!), Political Freedoms, and Free Enterprise. The guy made some valid points, including admitting that the fall of the Soviet Union was a collaboration between the Nations, and thus was not a &quot;Western&quot; victory alone:

http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/2012/04/28/20120428gorbachev-russia-speech.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irony.<br />
Speaking of &#8220;Russians&#8221;. Former USSR(CCCP) President Mikhail Gorbachev, was in Phoenix last Saturday, giving an educational presentation on &#8220;Global leadership&#8221;(ka-ching!), Political Freedoms, and Free Enterprise. The guy made some valid points, including admitting that the fall of the Soviet Union was a collaboration between the Nations, and thus was not a &#8220;Western&#8221; victory alone:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/2012/04/28/20120428gorbachev-russia-speech.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.azcentral.com/commu.....peech.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-442014</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 06:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9083#comment-442014</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;never EVER underestimate Russia &amp; never, EVER trust them ir this admin. who so said they would &amp; hsve started disarming the U.S.whike Rusdia us arming themselves still. &quot;
Huh?  It was the USSR which offered unilateral disarmament only in return for stopping the SDI(Star Wars) program, you know, the one which didn&#039;t work and cost the US billions?  Russia has increased its defense budget recently but it is still far below that of the US.


&quot; Know your history they dont want u to know in the mainstream, alphabet media or your publik skool, comrades.&quot;

What non-public school taught you to write that way?  We also can clearly see that they did not teach you history better than any public school would have.

&quot; If BO could &amp; has appointed Muslim.Brotherhood members to our security positions (thsts true, too) &quot;

So you&#039;re claiming that Barack Obama has appointed members of the Muslim Brotherhood to &quot;security&quot; positions?  Ok, LET&#039;S HAVE SOME NAMES, AND POSITIONS, PLEASE!  Remember, you said &quot;thats(sic) true, too).  

&quot;why is this far-fetched?&quot;

Because anyone with a tiny understanding of Russia and Russian politics would see it as absolutely absurd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;never EVER underestimate Russia &amp; never, EVER trust them ir this admin. who so said they would &amp; hsve started disarming the U.S.whike Rusdia us arming themselves still. &#8221;<br />
Huh?  It was the USSR which offered unilateral disarmament only in return for stopping the SDI(Star Wars) program, you know, the one which didn&#8217;t work and cost the US billions?  Russia has increased its defense budget recently but it is still far below that of the US.</p>
<p>&#8221; Know your history they dont want u to know in the mainstream, alphabet media or your publik skool, comrades.&#8221;</p>
<p>What non-public school taught you to write that way?  We also can clearly see that they did not teach you history better than any public school would have.</p>
<p>&#8221; If BO could &amp; has appointed Muslim.Brotherhood members to our security positions (thsts true, too) &#8221;</p>
<p>So you&#8217;re claiming that Barack Obama has appointed members of the Muslim Brotherhood to &#8220;security&#8221; positions?  Ok, LET&#8217;S HAVE SOME NAMES, AND POSITIONS, PLEASE!  Remember, you said &#8220;thats(sic) true, too).  </p>
<p>&#8220;why is this far-fetched?&#8221;</p>
<p>Because anyone with a tiny understanding of Russia and Russian politics would see it as absolutely absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-441980</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 05:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9083#comment-441980</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Rey,

You&#039;ve used that Nile reference a couple times now, and you&#039;ll have to forgive me as it seems to have overflown my rather large head. 

Might I bother you for an explanation? I rather like the quote, and I would simply like to know from whence it came.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rey,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve used that Nile reference a couple times now, and you&#8217;ll have to forgive me as it seems to have overflown my rather large head. </p>
<p>Might I bother you for an explanation? I rather like the quote, and I would simply like to know from whence it came.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Molloy</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-441879</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Molloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 02:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Red Dawn is great, until you wonder what they want with Colorado.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Dawn is great, until you wonder what they want with Colorado.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-441686</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9083#comment-441686</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[A.D.M.  

Try again.  When you do a Google search you must make judicious use of quotations and +/- sign for keywords.  The first 100 hits you got were probably for stories like the above.  The next 2.59 million hits you got were probably for the individual words &quot;oath&quot; and &quot;keepers&quot; and variations.  

Next step.  Of those organizations, none have significant funding or membership.  You must do more research.  Think logically.  An organization must have a few million dollars and many thousands members realistically just to start.   None of these do.  No one can point to me any group that is nothing more than one guy with a website and a PO box.  dollars.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A.D.M.  </p>
<p>Try again.  When you do a Google search you must make judicious use of quotations and +/- sign for keywords.  The first 100 hits you got were probably for stories like the above.  The next 2.59 million hits you got were probably for the individual words &#8220;oath&#8221; and &#8220;keepers&#8221; and variations.  </p>
<p>Next step.  Of those organizations, none have significant funding or membership.  You must do more research.  Think logically.  An organization must have a few million dollars and many thousands members realistically just to start.   None of these do.  No one can point to me any group that is nothing more than one guy with a website and a PO box.  dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-441639</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=9083#comment-441639</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[ADM: Someone on that committee might have pressed a button or two, but it doesn&#039;t mean it was the one who is being Jason now. 

Don&#039;t expect to straighten this out soon, though. The committee left a sign on their door:

WENT TO SEE NILE, OUT TO LUNCH INDEFINITELY (NOT ENOUGH SANDWICHES FOR PICNIC)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ADM: Someone on that committee might have pressed a button or two, but it doesn&#8217;t mean it was the one who is being Jason now. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t expect to straighten this out soon, though. The committee left a sign on their door:</p>
<p>WENT TO SEE NILE, OUT TO LUNCH INDEFINITELY (NOT ENOUGH SANDWICHES FOR PICNIC)</p>
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		<title>By: A.D.M.</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/comment-page-1/#comment-441537</link>
		<dc:creator>A.D.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jason, are you sure you did that Google search of Oath Keepers? I just did and I got 2,590,000 hits. Try again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, are you sure you did that Google search of Oath Keepers? I just did and I got 2,590,000 hits. Try again.</p>
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