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Intelligence Report Article Provokes Fury Among Men’s Rights Activists

By Arthur Goldwag on May 15, 2012 - 3:04 pm, Posted in Anti-Woman

The last issue of the SPLC’s Intelligence Report presented a scathing portrait of “a hard-line fringe” of the Men’s Rights Movement (MRM): “women haters whose fury goes well beyond criticism of the family court system, domestic violence laws, and false rape accusations,” whose rage is “directed at all women, not only perceived feminists.”

The article, entitled “Leader’s Suicide Brings Attention to Men’s Rights Movement,” provoked a tremendous response among men’s rights activists (MRAs) and their sympathizers.

“Piggybacking on the two minutes’ hate against Limbaugh,” the National Review Online sarcastically declared, the “clueless commissars at the Southern Policy Law Center” have “found a new arena of hate groups, comparable to neo-Nazis and the skinheads: the ‘manosphere’ of misogynist web sites.” The website In Mala Fide was defiantly proud: “Before, our enemies ignored us. Now, they point their gnarled, disgusting fingers at us, sputtering syllables of disapproval.”

A Voice for Men’s Paul Elam tried on a collegial tone at first. “The goals of SPLC and AVfM are quite similar,” he averred in open letter to the SPLC’s president, Richard Cohen. “We both work to identify groups who seek to oppress others, and inform the public of the inequities they would perpetuate.” But just days later, in a post headlined “Southern Poverty Law Center Linked to Hate Activity,” he changed his tune.

It should be mentioned that the SPLC did not label MRAs as members of a hate movement; nor did our article claim that the grievances they air on their websites – false rape accusations, ruinous divorce settlements and the like – are all without merit. But we did call out specific examples of misogyny and the threat, overt or implicit, of violence.

Thomas James Ball, for example, who was hailed as a martyr on so many men’s rights forums, called for arson attacks on courthouses and police stations. The Norwegian mass killer Anders Breivik wrote extensively about the evils of feminism. We included as much as we did about Register-Her.com because it is so intimidating to its targets, not all of whom are criminals. When Elam accused Vliet Tiptree, a pseudonymous contributor to RadFem Hub, of “calling for extermination of half the human race; the male half, that is,” he offered a cash reward for her real identity. The names and locations of several candidates were publically aired.

Elam and the authors of countless angry posts and letters have demanded to know why the SPLC hasn’t also condemned feminist man-hating (or misandry, to use the MRM’s preferred term).

“You do know that there is a forum out there called ‘RadFem Hub’ that actively advocates infanticide, gender-selective abortion and killing/mutilating men and boys, right?” one letter asked us. “Read the SCUM Manifesto,” another said, “and research the reception it has received over the years, and the regard with which many feminists still hold Valerie Solanas.”

Solanas was the undeniably disturbed woman who shot Andy Warhol in 1968. “Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women,” her manifesto began, “there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation and destroy the male sex.”

SCUM stands for “Society for Cutting Up Men,” and it is true that Solanas continues to be much-read and quoted in some feminist circles. (“We don’t really cut up men,” the tagline of the Feminazis blog cheekily declares. “Well, unless they deserve it.”)

The existence of hatred on one side of a color, political or gender line hardly justifies its presence on the other. And radical feminists do say hurtful things about men. “[T]reatments can be developed to mitigate the death-drive of men, their hierarchical psychology, their insensitivity to the pain of living creatures, their pleasure in violence and intimidation, their acquisitiveness, their rape and phallic obsessions,” Tiptree wrote in a post on RadFem Hub called Radical Feminism Enters the 21st Century. “[M]y best bet is that what’s wrong with men is that their androgens need genetic modification. I’m serious about this. If we can do it with corn, men ought to be easy.” Few possessors of Y chromosomes could read her words without feeling queasy. But to characterize her essay as a well-developed plan, as Elam and his colleagues do, is not only ridiculous, it is willfully obtuse.

Cathy Brennan owns the domain RadFem Hub. “I don’t hate men,” she told me. “I have a father, I have a brother, I have a son. The war that Paul Elam is waging is in his head. I worry about women and children and the increasing violence in our society.” When I asked her what she thought of Solanas’ “Scum Manifesto,” she laughed. “I view it as A Modest Proposal-type work of literature, a satire. It’s brilliant, but it’s not my personal bible.”

While men’s rights activists fantasize about existential threats to the male sex, real gendercide is being committed against girls in China, India, East Asia, the Caucasus and other parts of the world.

Of course, some radical feminists do hate men, and when MRAs lurk in members-only chat rooms and cherry pick their angriest, most shockingly over-the-top posts to reprint on their own sites, as an MRA “mole” did at a forum called RadFemSpeak (which is not affiliated with RadFem Hub), they commit the same injustice they accuse the SPLC of doing to themselves. No one makes a very favorable impression when they’re spewing bile.

This is a lesson that some MRAs are beginning to learn for themselves. “With all of the kooks inhabiting the manosphere, it was easy for the SPLC to smear anti-feminism,” one MRA site sadly concluded after our article appeared. “The problem is larger than just AVfM. Even rational anti-feminist blogs and organizations like the False Rape Society and SAVE [Stop Abusive and Violent Environments] are being tarnished with the same brush because the MRM ‘leadership’ has failed to deal with the kooks.”

“Women are not feminism. … To equate the two is beyond ignorant,” a thoughtful MRA blogger wrote. “[I]deologically speaking, I have some issues with feminist theory, but honestly, I think it’s a distraction from working on the real issues that face men. … issues like: Homelessness – Men’s Health – Education – Suicides – Homicides – Deaths on the Job – Family Court Inequalities – Child Custody – Criminal Justice System – Incarceration Rates – Prison Rape and Violence – Domestic Violence – Unemployment – Drug and Alcohol Abuse – Military Deaths and Service – Vilification in the Media – Legal Inequalities. This is what the MRM is all about; this is about social justice and equal protection under the law.”

I dare say that if social justice and equal protection under the law were all that the MRM were about, then the SPLC would have had no reason to write about it. If the article inspires more self-criticism in this vein, then perhaps it did the Men’s Rights Movement a service.

  • http://twitter.com/AronL Aron

    Erica,

    Not only is ‘Come Hell or High Watermelon’ potentially tasty, it’s kinetically tasty, too! And I believe Sixpoint Brewery hails from your homestate, so I definitely recommend giving them a try :D

  • Reynardine

    Well, yes, Erika, but they are worn on the most significant occasions.

  • Erika

    the funniest part is that the shops charge the most for the frilly things which get worn the least

  • Erika

    watermelon beer sounds potentially very yummy :)

  • http://twitter.com/AronL Aron

    Ooh, I loved those! Sadly, I haven’t seen them for years :(

  • Reynardine

    Actually, Aron, I am too old to think about anybody’s can, unless someone has one of those vintage Log Cabin Syrup cans you can use as a piggybank.

  • http://twitter.com/AronL Aron

    Oh, and Rey,

    My can is probably the LAST thing anyone here wishes to think about. Unless you’re referring to my 21st Amendment Breweries’ ‘Hell or High Watermelon’ beer can. Which is a very nice can.

  • http://twitter.com/AronL Aron

    Erica,

    One need only glance through the window at a La Perla boutique (not that I would have ever done such a prurient thing!) to see how badly women are being hosed for their ‘frilly things.’

    Dey sure am sexy, though.

  • Erika

    really, if a man or woman wants to wear a tanga, I think they should be able to as a matrter of law – but people should have enough taste to see that as one right they should not exercise.

  • Erika

    There are times to be grateful that the United States is such a prudish country :)

  • Reynardine

    By the way, though you’re not likely to see it in the United States, there are countries where men wear tanga trunks- basically crocheted jock straps. Not sure if they come in blue, though.

    Yes, you(r) can!

  • Reynardine

    Lace crotch floss.

  • Erika

    Aron, is it scandalous because manufacturers charge the same price (or more) than what they charge for respectable bikini bottoms?

    Of course, if you’ve ever shopped for women’s underwear you know they pull the same scam with panties.

  • Erika

    Rey, may be cheap to manufacture, but its remarkable how much women have to pay to look so cheap ;)

  • Reynardine

    Aron: Yes, you(r) can!

  • http://twitter.com/AronL Aron

    I’m now rather regretting my search for this ‘tanga’ garment that had been mentioned. Oh dear.

    Scandalous!

  • Reynardine

    In all events, if one takes into account the manufacturing cost of the fabric, tangas at least deserve to be called cheap.

  • Erika

    I wouldn’t consider a tanga to be “sexy” – just trashy.

  • Reynardine

    Have just arrived at a suburb of Tomball. My smallest tomcat is covered with medicated soap.

  • Reynardine

    I don’t think anyone knows the social structure of Eocene Coryphodons at all. Don’t make that bikini a tanga, or you’ll just have to settle for a tattoo.

  • Erika

    Incidentially, with Memorial Day Weekend upon us, its almost time for me to change into my ultrasexy peach with white lettering “Find Radiant Joy in Peach Bottom” bikini so I can find some men. You know that our feminist leaders Valerie Solaris and Lorena Bobbit get upset if we feminists faill to meet our quotas for number of men forced to penetrate us in a year

    Do I even need to say I am joking? Everyone knows there is no such thing as an ultrasexy peach with white lettering saying “Find Radiant Joy in Peach Bottom” bikini (yet) ;)

  • Erika

    I think so. Were they noted for male domination?

  • Reynardine

    Erika, don’t know if you saw my post on Coryphodon, the dumbest mammal that ever lived, but maybe they’re not extinct after all.

  • Erika

    I don’t know, if Randy really is for real, he is the dumbest male supremacist loser yet.

  • Reynardine

    Well, dammit, Erika, time to take out the tablecloth and lock the door, before someone else like Randy wanders in and…

  • Erika

    Randy’s post is just way too good to be true. This has to be a joke and a parody.

    While entire post was hilarious, I especially like spelling men “myn” but continung to spell women “women.”

  • Reynardine

    Go home, Randy. The party’s over. You’re ranting in a darkened hall.

  • randy

    one day myn will have the same rights as women, when the subjugation and rape of our brothers, the vilification and sexualization of our gender wont stand. one day myn will be liberated from the sinister enemies oppression and hatred! MYN LIBERATION BY ANY MEANS

    some of you feminazi on here are actually DENYING that myn are SEXUAL ASSAULTED an RAPED at a rate higher than chicks???? thats like denying the holocaust, i know so many victims of the ‘rapeocaust’ if you will its despicable. MALE LIBERATION NOW! STOP THE RAPE OF MYN!

  • Reynardine

    Of course, you are radiant, my dear. We all know that.

  • Erika

    Oh I definitely do want the bikini and would no doubt look very radiant in it.

    I would just like to think that its not required to show how radiant I am :)

  • Reynardine

    Erika, you were the one you said you wanted a bikini bottom with a slogan.

  • Erika

    Like men have ever been told that in order to demonstrate their radiance they have to wear a Speedo.

  • Lex

    Erika im not talking about men rights,manosphere, had no idea what mrw was before lr that it existed, what worry me is the extreme transphobia i see spewed by radical feminists going almost unchallenged by other feminists

    books like “the transsexual empire” which is on par with the “the pink swastika” but instead of bashing gay´s it bases transsexuals

    events in real life like Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival banning transgender women

    I did not know there was transphobia existent in feminism before i read this article .

    Out of curiosity i went to radfemhub and saw a article about transgender people and too my shock it was so hate filled it looked like something you would see from wbc.

  • Lex

    Erika im not talking about men rights,manosphere, had no idea what mrw was before lr that it existed, what worrsy me is the extreme transphobia i see spewed by radical feminists going almost unchallenged by other feminists

    books like “the transsexual empire” which is on par with the “the pink swastika” but instead of bashing gay´s it bases transsexuals

    events in real life like Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival banning transgender women

    I did not know there was transphobia existent in feminism before i read this article and i went to radfemhub and saw a transgender people and too my shock it was so hate filled it looked like something you would see from wbc (im a regular reader and a commenter on hatewatch blog

  • Reynardine

    Oh, for God’s sake, Very Concerned, get over it. They’re already sweeping the crumbs off this table.

  • Very Concerned

    One hate group attacked another hate group. When is the SPLC going to designated second wave feminism as a hate group? Have you seen the anti-transphobic rhetoric, they spew? They publicly shame transgender women and are fighting against their rights.

  • Reynardine

    Erika, see the reference to blue Speedos, supra.

  • Erika

    I would prefer to think that the radiance would come from my radiant personality and not due to the radiance of my bottom, but really, do men ever have to put up with that?

  • Reynardine

    Men’s blue Speedos could be emblazoned with, “Escape from Blue Ball”. I don’t even want to think about Tomball slogans until I recover from bathing The Great Phoenix.

  • Reynardine

    Well, Erika, if one is wearing shorts, any underlying radiance is not immediately apparent.

  • Erika

    More than 200 comments now – it could have never happened without the male supremacists cutting and pasting the same comment multiple times.

  • Erika

    I’m thinking that “Love Yourself in Onancock” t-shirts and bumper stickers would definitely sell.

  • Erika

    while the peach velveteen shorts would work nicely with my skin tone, isn’t it a bit redundant to print “Peach Bottom” on them?

  • Erika

    if the writing was small enough, it could fit ;)

    small writing also has the advantage of my being able to limit the ability to get close enough to read it on me to people who would actually understand the joke.

  • http://twitter.com/AronL Aron

    Or at least any bikini that matters.

  • Lex

    Ive been reading radicalhub.com , its odd that a feminist site holds such a extreme transphobic view

    http://radicalhub.com/2011/05/.....-jeffreys/
    This is many of many articales there bashing transgender people
    A good read on the transphobia and this is not some isolated thing
    http://jadehawks.wordpress.com.....ce-papers/

    Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival bans transgender women to enter,

    http://radicalhub.com/2011/08/.....r-females/

    They have coined the term transmisogoyny

  • Reynardine

    We went over two hundred.

    I’m guessing, Archy, that most of us here don’t have any problem with genders. We have a problem with people who are always acting out their problems with genders.

  • Reynardine

    Besides, that slogan is too big to fit on a bikini.

  • Gregory

    Nearly 200 comments. I guess the MRAs have more time on their hands (no pun) and better access to the intertubes than WNs. And yes, Archy, they are whiney, although I would use the term “whinging”.

  • Reynardine

    Erika, I think you can find a pair in peach velveteen and get them printed.