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League of the South Chief: Whites are Naturally ‘Superior’

By Mark Potok on June 14, 2012 - 1:45 pm, Posted in Extremist Propaganda, Neo-Confederate

Michael Hill, we hardly knew ye.

Sure, we remember how, as early as 2000, you already were denigrating your black former students at Stillman College in Tuscaloosa, Ala., to your friends, mocking their “humorous” names and offering up sensitive jokes like this one: “A quote from a recent affirmative action hire: ‘Yesta-day I could not spell secretary.’ Today I is one.’” Ha! We know all about your 2007 essay, aimed at members of the League of the South hate group you started in 1994, saying that they should quit being afraid of being called “racist” and other, as you put it, “meaningless epithets.”

But, heck, we were still thinking you were just a garden-variety bigot, a rude jerk who’s too dumb to keep his diarrhea-spouting mouth shut.

But now here you come, Mike, and make it all plain for us. We just read the essay you published Tuesday, and we see you’re finally displaying the courage of your convictions. You’re an intellectual, and you’ve got an entire system of thought that explains the failings of black people. By gum, you’re not afraid to tell it like it is!

White people are endowed with a “God-ordained superiority.” Whites of “honor, genius and principle” left us with a “glorious heritage,” while black people “have never created anything approximating a civilization.” It’s a “monumental lie” that all men are created equal. The very word “racism” was “coined by the Communists.” Slavery was “successfully defended from a Biblical standpoint” until “the institution’s legitimacy was systematically undermined in the name of ‘equality’ and misappropriated ‘Christian ethics’” by the Civil War and all that followed. Emancipating the slaves was “a disaster for whites and blacks alike.” “[I]nstead of whites owing black reparations for slavery and its alleged attendant ills … blacks in reality owe white America (especially the South) a debt that likely will be neither acknowledged nor paid.” After all, slaves had “cradle to grave security.”

All great points, Mike! We can see how you were once a college professor.

And then there’s your cool take on Reconstruction. “During the period from 1865-77, whites in the South had seen enough of Negro rule to understand that their (i.e., white) civilization would perish should blacks be given the vote and thus be permitted to control the political system. … Therefore, postbellum Southern blacks were disenfranchised and ‘Jim Crow’ law resulted in a segregated South (today, ‘Jim Crow’ has been replaced by what might be called ‘Jim Snow’ policies that discriminate against whites).” And, as you point out, freed blacks suffered from problems like “family disintegration.” Good point, no matter what those Yankee multiculturalists claim about slavery really tearing apart black families.

There was a time, hard to believe as it may seem today, when Michael Hill didn’t like being called a racist. Then he became an explicit neo-secessionist, urging the South to break away once again. He started to talk in terms of race, opposing interracial relationships and driving away the few serious scholars who had once shown the League of the South some sympathy. He left Stillman College and his black students, much to the apparent relief of embarrassed officials there.

Now, we can call the man who shouts about white “superiority” exactly what he is — a white supremacist with views that are essentially indistinguishable from those of the Klan. Add to that Hill’s recent talk of violence — telling followers that they are at war, and urging them to buy AK-47s, hollow-point bullets and tools to derail trains — and it gets a person to thinking. Perhaps we’d all be better off if we just let the foul-mouthed professor get his wish and secede from the country he hates.

  • Erika

    you know CoralSea that when I suggested to think Kansas as the center of Teabagistan, I didn’t even realize how appropriate it was. Kansas politics took such a turn for the weird thanks to the Koch brothers of Witchita – they of course have taken their act national by being teh main financial backers of the Tea Party.

  • Joseph

    Michael – you may be interested to know that Egypt was only ruled by Nubians for on a few centuries in it’s entire existence. The majority of Pharoahs were not Nubians, as black people were called in that time period in that region, and their land was called Kush. And the Egyptians didn’t really mix with the Nubians. They were ethnically different, and not “forced to intermarry” back then.

  • Erika

    oh and Ned, sweetie, read the various opinions in U.S. v. Lopez which will cover just about any basis you might have regarding the power to regulate interstate commerce. Also note that even in striking down the Guns Free Schools Act, the majority makes it clear that the power to regulate interstate commerce is extraordinarily broad and covers most commercial activities.

  • Erika

    cugel, you asked a riduculous question – which is based upon racial prejudice – and then got all huffy because people pointed out why it was illegitimate to ask what you did rather than answering it.

  • Erika

    Ned, when you make an argument and then refer to people to the very thing which refutes your argument it is not a very good argument.

    See, Article I, Section 8 gives Congress the power to regulate interstate and international commerce and the power to pass laws that are “necessary and proper” for the execution of any enumerated power. Now even using the most restrictive view of commerce power – a view that even Justice Scalia has called extreme and nutty – that of Justice Clarence Thomas, the commerce power is extremely broad. Nobody mainstream would seriously argue that anything (other than the public schools) that I listed is not within the power of Congress (Social Security and Medicare are based upon the taxation power). And even Clarence Thomas would uphold those regulations simply because he has acknowledged that Congress can violate goods in commerce (even if he is against the substantial effects test – and yes, Justice Scalia really did call him a “nut” for believing that).

  • Reynardine

    No, Ned, you are wasting my time with blather, and I have better things to do.

    Cugel, I specifically said I was not using softwear of any kind. I said that I am capable of analyzing linguistic samples, using, among other tools, Warriner diagrams, to determine the likelihood of samples coming from the same author or different ones. And since Ruslan said nothing to you that would elicit that kind of truculent response from a reasonable person, I assume you are showing off your macho. And no, I don’t think you’d have the nerve to do it in person.

    I caution you, however, that if you do ever make a serious threat over the Internet, you are likely to be traced, and not by me.

  • Ned Brainard

    “You’re the one who is addled.”

    Who said anything about addled? I said you were confusing things unnecessarily and that your cohorts don’t understand the right. Are you at all familiar with the concepts of enumerated powers and original intent? The 10th Amendment?

    “That is all.”

    In other words, I’m arguing circles around you, and you are withdrawing from the debate.

  • cugel

    Reynardine

    You addressed yourself to me so I will address myself to you.

    In my few posts here I have not been disrespectful to anyone. My observations (and these are observations that anyone who has their eyes open and done a little traveling will see for themselves) stirred up some real hostility. Now, I enjoy a little spirited discussion on websites with people who have different views than I do – its a good way to learn interesting things…but that is not what I see here. Note Ruslan’s first response to my observation. My telling him that he should is not do that is not about being an internet tough guy (whatever that is), but a gentle reminder that civilized people just do not talk that way, not unless they are, for some reason of their own, actually courting trouble.

    Now on to the matter of tracing internet addresses or using software to analyze my few posts. Really? Are you that fearful of opposing opinions? Set your mind at rest. Under no conditions could I be bothered either to issue threats, or post under different names.

    The last time I have seen such levels of hostility was when I posted a few commonplace observations about nature on an anti-evolution website. Even there, there was no silly name calling. There was some interesting discussion.There was no insinuation that I might be secretly posting under multiple names.

  • Charles Dan Austin

    Some one needs to wake him up with the facts that science says otherwise. How can he teach at any credible institution of learning?

  • Linnea

    Thanks to Mark Potok for the laugh this afternoon!

    One of the big reasons I come on here regularly is to see Aron, Rey, and the rest smack down the trolls. Wish I had your eloquence and coolheadedness! Thanks for the entertainment.

  • http://twitter.com/AronL Aron

    Ned, the problem is you DON’T represent the Right. You represent an ultra-right fringe which makes other fringes look tame in comparison.

    I’m well aware of enumerated powers. I’m also well aware of the seminal case People v. CSA, which pretty much settle the supremacy clause once and for all. If you dislike what your government is doing, you have every right to demand redress. But the Federal always trumps the State. Always.

    Have a nice day.

  • Reynardine

    No, Brainerd. You’re the one who is addled. That is all.

  • Ned Brainard

    “Ned, you are not thinking of commonlaw jurisprudence, which is shaped by the very process you so despise. You are thinking of Civil Code jurisdictions, where every law has to be specifically written out. They have overthrows and new Constitutions and Codes written every couplethree decades. The UK, the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand- not so much.”

    Reynardine, you are confusing the matter unnecessarily. I’m thinking of the doctrines of enumerated powers and original intent with regard to how to understand and interpret the Constitution. See my reply to Aron above. I’m not thinking primarily of laws so much as I am powers and programs, although the former comes with the latter. These concepts are commonplace on the right although, unfortunately, inconsistently applied. That they seem to astound and flabbergast leftists is more proof of my original contention – that the left doesn’t understand the right.

  • Ned Brainard

    “Ned, you’re honestly recommending that every single time a law is passed in this country, it should consist of a constitutional amendment?

    Have you no idea how America works? Or are you just that stupid?”

    Aron, stop hyperventilating. You don’t need an amendment for every law. You need an amendment for everything the Federal Government wants to do that is not an authorized function of the Federal Government (primarily Article 1 Section 8).This is called “Enumerated Powers” doctrine. It was conceded by both the Federalists and the Antifederalists, and was codified in the 10th Amendment. Enumerated Powers is a fundamental aspect of originalism which is the constitutional interpretive schema utilized by conservatives. The problem is most “conservatives” are selective originalists. Conservatives like Hill are not, although I suspect Hill prefers the Articles of Confederation.

  • http://twitter.com/AronL Aron

    Michael, and your point is? The FIRST human civilizations were on the Indus River and in the Fertile Crescent between the Tigris and Euphrates. The African civilizations came significantly later.

  • Reynardine

    Ned, you are not thinking of commonlaw jurisprudence, which is shaped by the very process you so despise. You are thinking of Civil Code jurisdictions, where every law has to be specifically written out. They have overthrows and new Constitutions and Codes written every couplethree decades. The UK, the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand- not so much.

  • Reynardine

    Parker, what are you going on about? “Black Africans” is as dumb an idea as “white Europeans” or “yellow Asians”. These tribes and nations were all distinguishable until they came (or were dragged or driven) over here and got tossed in the slushpot.

  • Michael Parker

    Mark Potok- Go to the library & read up on the Egyptian,Ethiopian civilizations, who I remind you were the first civilations. And who were these people at that time. They were BLACK Africans, now mix with Arabs & Europeans. You, like the rest of the world have been lied to. Don’t believe it, study world history.

  • Herbert E. Larson

    This is for Rodney, can’t we all just get along? Since science is sure all of our ancestors came out of Africa it follows we are all Africans to some percentage.

  • http://twitter.com/AronL Aron

    Ned, you’re honestly recommending that every single time a law is passed in this country, it should consist of a constitutional amendment?

    Have you no idea how America works? Or are you just that stupid?

    The US Constitution is the supreme law of the land. But just because something isn’t mentioned in its body does not mean it is up to the states to decide. Since you’re such a Con-law ‘expert,’ perhaps you might wish to re-acquaint yourself with the ‘supremacy clause.’

    Have fun, Mr Flubber.

  • Dennis

    I can’t figure out where he got the idea that blacks had a secure existence under slavery here….Imagine being forced to work from sun up to sun down and not knowing when you’re going to get a severe whipping or beating at any moment.

  • Joseph

    CORRECTION: “Then someone…” & “I don’t remember President Lincoln asking Congress for permission…”

  • Joseph

    I was very upset when I heard about the amnesty that President Obama gave to the immigrants. The someone reminded me about the Emancipation Proclamation. And while I am not likening immigration, illegal or legal, to slavery, I don’t remember President Lincoln asking Congress, and I don’t remember it being a very popular decision back then. I can only wonder how this will look 150 years from now.

    I’m not mad at him.

  • Ned Brainard

    “Ned, times change, and the country changes with it. It would be stupid to try to keep the US the same as it was in the late 18th century.”

    This is why we have the amendment process. To just ignore the Constitution when it is not convenient to progressive aims is tyranny.

  • Reynardine

    I would add that if we are speaking of the demographics of serial killers, I know of only two in the United States who were female: Bell Gunness and Aileen Wuornos. This by no means implies men are inherently murderous. It does mean that generalizing from individual pathological specimens to a whole demographic is fallacious, unjust, and dangerous.

  • Joseph

    I retract my statement, respectively, however, I did not imply that they do not exist at all. In the future, to avoid these types of conflicts, I will “stay on task”. Out of the spirit of debate and fairness, the following is an unofficial list of black (or otherwise considdered black) serial killers:

    Howard Arthur Allen. Indianapolis. 3 or more victims.

    Jake Bird. Tacoma, Washington. Two in the Tacoma area in the 1940s and a total of 44 nationwide.

    Terry A. Blair. Kansas City area. 8 victims. 2003-4.

    Arthur Bomar. Philadelphia and Nevada. 4 or 5 victims.

    Daniel Andrew Bowler. Richmond, Virginia. 3 victims.

    Eugene Britt. Gary, Indiana. 10 or more victims.

    Maurice Byrd. St. Louis area. 20 victims.

    Reginald and Jonathan Carr. Wichita, Kansas. 5 victims.

    Jarvis Catoe. New York City. 13 victims. 1941-42.

    Leonard Christopher. Philadelpha. 7 victims. 1980s.

    Alton Coleman. Midwestern USA. 8 victims.

    Andre Crawford. Southside Chicago. 10 victims.

    Paul Durousseau. Jacksonville, Florida; Georgia. 6 victims, two of which were pregnant women.

    Lorenzo Fayne. East St. Louis, Illinois. 5 victims, all children.

    Kendall Francois. Poughkeepsie, New York and environs. 8 victims, all women.

    Carlton Gary. Columbus, Georgia. 3 victims.

    Lorenzo J. Gilyard. Kansas City, Missouri. 12 victims, all women.(May be Missouri’s worst serial killer ever, according to the Kansas City Star.)

    Mark Goudeau. Valley of the Sun, Arizona. “Baseline Killer.” 9 kills, along with 15 sexual assaults and 11 kidnappings during his year-long spree.

    Harrison Graham. North Philadelphia city. 7 victims, possibly more.

    Vaughn Greenwood. Louisiana. 11 victims.

    Kevin and Reginald Haley. Los Angeles. 8 victims. 1979-84.

  • Ruslan Amirkhanov

    Cugel, I didn’t not accuse you of making threats, but rather Internet Tough Guy statements. There is a difference. Anyway, the problem was the comparison you made, which clearly does not take into account a number of historical, sociological, and economic factors.

  • Ruslan Amirkhanov

    Ned, times change, and the country changes with it. It would be stupid to try to keep the US the same as it was in the late 18th century. Semi-auto military rifles aren’t mention in the constitution; I guess your 2nd Amendment rights must limit you to black powder muskets then.

    Only a fool attributes mystical, super-human powers to a group of men from the 18th century. They themselves(particularly Thomas Paine and Jefferson) found the idea ridiculous.

  • Ned Brainard

    “Ned, the fact that you apparently think that Michelle Bachmann is “mainstream” says all we need to know about you.”

    I said Bachmann was a mainstream “conservative,” meaning she is a part of “mainstream” conservatism (GOP, FOX News, etc.) which in many respects is not conservative in the real sense of that word. Which is why I put conservative in quotes. (Such as thinking America must police the world.) Aren’t conservative like Hill, a parochial Southerner, often criticized by the SPLC for being anti-globalist/anti-internationalist?

    Also, Hill style conservatives are not corporatists. Again, you need to study up on the vagaries of the right. You clearly lack nuance on the subject.

  • Ned Brainard

    “joining Teabagistan would mean the elimination of their Social Security and Medicare benefits, the removal of any workplace safety laws, the elimination of any protections against fraudulent, counterfeit, and unsafe food and drugs, the elimination of the minimum wage, the removal of all public schools, elimination of enviromental protections, and draconian and intrusive laws regulating personal behavior. Not to mention the Teabaginis would not longer have the protection of the United States military.”

    You mean all those programs that are nowhere authorized in the Constitution. All those things are possible at the state and local level, but the Constitution does not authorize them at the Federal level. (Counterfeiting, btw, is one of only three federal crimes actually mentioned in the Constitution.) That aside, aren’t we always told that the money in SS belongs to the person? Therefore, rightfully the money would follow the person when he left the Union.

    Also, what use would we have for the US Military if we were no longer trying to police the world? What country would invade the well-armed South?

  • CoralSea

    FYI — as someone who works in all manner of places — and I do mean “works,” as in, gets out and talks to people, often in their homes, I am always careful wherever I go, but the only time I have ever been physically menaced was by some nut in an upper-middle-class area. (Proving only that one can find psychos anywhere.)

    I have the advantage of being “that environmental lady” who helps address environmental problems like contamination, which means that I often get a “free pass,” even in very tough neighborhoods. I end up fielding questions from people with names like “Mousy” and “Clepto” and we bond.

    As Joseph said, one can find “bad” neighborhoods anywhere. According to sociological studies, the “criminal element” in most “bad” neighborhood often boils down to a handful of people, often families, who perpetrate most of the crime. In other words, most of the people who live in “crime-ridden” areas are as up-standing or possibly more upstanding than your average middle or upper-middle class people. This is what the literature says, and it has thus far (over my 25 years of field work) been my experience.

    Gangs are another serious issue that can really destroy neighborhoods. But with the exception of some of the really hard core guys, most of these boys and young men (and the occasional young women I’ve met), if I get to know them at all well, they end up speaking rather sheepishly and wisfully about how the gang was pretty much the only thing available to them.

    The fact that so many people, of whatever race or ethnicity, work so hard and overall display such honesty, integrity, and compassion, despite the obstacles that many of them face simply providing for themselves and their children is a testament to the human spirit.

    Matt et. al. can choose to focus on the slice of society that is crap, or they can rejoice in what many people accomplish, even against significant odds. This isn’t the view of some be-dazzled liberal “white-light-we-are-all-one” woman. This is the view of someone who actually has to help solve difficult problems.

  • Erika

    not to mention the fact that I’m not poor – that means I can afford to pay for a safe environment no matter where I live.

    hence why your question is not a legitimate question.

    incidentially, my office is located in between a very expensive and very white residential area and a very nice shopping center located in the suburbs – its been broken into twice.

  • CoralSea

    Erika — can we not think about Kansas. I already have a migraine…

  • Erika

    cugel, my answer would be neither. both are way too cold and too large for my tastes.

    ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer.

  • Reynardine

    Most assuredly, Cugel, you said, over a reasonably phrased argument which Ruslan stated to you, that he would not speak so to your face, quite as if he had instead called you the kind of person who was likely to be arrested while on the lam(b). He had said nothing to you at that point which would justify that kind of bellicose response, and it therefore gave the impression of truculence arising out of sheer bravado. Now, I confused you momentarily with another such person on another thread, but I can’t rule out that you are the same person pretending to be a horde of “outraged citizens”. I can’t trace your IP addresses, but I can, with some effort I don’t care to expend at this moment, tell if writing samples came from the same or different writers. Directly this sort of thing becomes too bothersome or too personally threatening to anyone here, I’ll do it. Govern yoursel(ves) accordingly.

  • cugel

    Erika, I’m not at all bothered by your opinions regarding me, but I’m honestly interested in your answer to my question.
    Ruslan, I did not issue any threats to you, why do you think I did?
    Joseph, your response was the most interesting (and even tempered!), but your speculations about how I would react if dropped into a black neighborhood are a bit off base. I have moved many times for job related reasons and have in the past (and at present) worked in cities that are almost entirely black. In my current place of work most of my coworkers are black. I can tell you that I have never had any serious problems in these cities or any other city. There is no reason why anyone who keeps their wits about them…always…, should. Also I have the advantage of an NYC upbringing where you early learn to size up a neighborhood and act, and react, accordingly.

  • Erika

    Ned, the fact that you apparently think that Michelle Bachmann is “mainstream” says all we need to know about you.

  • Erika

    Matt, the federal government wouldn’t have to destroy Teabagistan because Teabagistan if it existed would destroy itself. In fact, the death of Teabagistan would pretty much take place as soon as perspective Teabaginis would learn that joining Teabagistan would mean the elimination of their Social Security and Medicare benefits, the removal of any workplace safety laws, the elimination of any protections against fraudulent, counterfeit, and unsafe food and drugs, the elimination of the minimum wage, the removal of all public schools, elimination of enviromental protections, and draconian and intrusive laws regulating personal behavior. Not to mention the Teabaginis would not longer have the protection of the United States military.

    Left on its on, Teabagistan would collaspe quickly even assuming it got off the ground. There would be no reason for the United States to act to destroy Teabagistan – simply put, if the U.S. carved out a portion of the United States for the League of the South to operate as the new Confederacy the League of the South wouldn’t know what to do – they know that they would be begging to rejoin the country within years, if not weeks once the inadequacy of their preferred system of non-government where the government intrudes constantly in people’s personal life but gives free reign to corporations.

    And Matt, if you really wanted to you could move to China – they pretty much have the same type of government that Teabagistan would have.

  • Matt

    “Actually, it appears to me that she has said that if the (dis)Loyal Opposition think they know how to run a country, let them try to run one.”

    But of course this is disingenuous…the Federal Government will simply destroy any attempt to secede from the US. You seem to agree with me that the differences between the red and the blue team are intractable, and even go further and say that it is not merely disagreement but a struggle of good vs evil. If this is the case, then separation eliminates that struggle, so why can’t it happen?

  • William

    “You have scores of good ol’ American made serial killers (who are white) that will rack up a much larger death toll, for no reason at all.”

    Yet another cliche devoid of any thought or research. You may want to check out (if you have any intellectual curiosity at all) Justin Cottrell’s new book, Rise of the Black Serial Killer which demonstrates that serial killers today are overwhelmingly black men (See John Muhammed and Lee Malvo as prominent examples).

  • Reynardine

    Actually, it appears to me that she has said that if the (dis)Loyal Opposition think they know how to run a country, let them try to run one. I myself don’t regard the experiment as prudent, especially since I live in Florida and have no desire to be under the jurisdiction of Trinity and Teabago, but I believe she was quite clear about what she was propsing.

  • Ned Brainard

    What I’m saying Mr. Reynardine is very clear. Erika doesn’t know what she is talking about.

  • Reynardine

    Actually, Mr. Brainard, it sounds like what you’re saying is that the far right can only function as an opposition party, and therefore their only choice is to stay one and screw things up for the rest of the country. In fact, the history of the Confederacy supports this hypothesis.

  • Ned Brainard

    “feel free to move to the new Republic[an] of Teabagistan where Michelle Bachmann can be President and Michael Hill can be Secretary of State.”

    Erika, this proves how little knee-jerk leftists understand about the right. Folks like Hill are non-interventionist on foreign policy. Bachmann, a mainstream “conservative,” is a gung-ho interventionist. They would not get along in the same administration, especially not with Hill as Sec. of State. Next time, please try to educate yourself before you spout off. If you need me to explain to you what a non-interventionist is, I will be glad to do so.

  • Joseph

    cugel, you can try to make sense out of your arguments bro, but can you explain the black migration and subsequent success of cities like Atlanta; Tulsa; Jacksonville, FL; Columbus, the list goes on? Sure those cities, like all citis, have dangerous neighborhoods, but how does that compare to the POSITIVE economic impact that young business oriented Black professionals bring to their community?

    Compton and South Central are dangerous neighborhoods, as was mine. But a neighborhood does not a city make sir. Los Angeles is much bigger than any bad neighborhood that it has.

    Also, if you did a bit more research, I do believe you would find a number of “white” neighborhoods that can compete with Compton or Watts on any day of the week.

    But tell the truth. You get nervous in a black neighborhood don’t ya? I bet you’re like a chicken in a chicken coop.

    Don’t you realize, I’d get hurt before you would. They’d think you’re a cop. If I dropped you in the middle of 5th Ward in Houston you wouldn’t get touched.

    But let me get dropped in the middle of a white ghetto, like Southie in Boston, or Patterson, New Jeresy (where a half Irish half-Italian buddy of mine in the Navy grew up) and we’ll see what happens to me – and I look damn near white. (big smile)

  • Reynardine

    Matt, I suspect it is too large to be bridged. I suspect the offspring of you and a human female would be sterile.

  • Matt

    “Matt, feel free to move to the new Republic[an] of Teabagistan where Michelle Bachmann can be President and Michael Hill can be Secretary of State.”

    But that’s just it…I couldn’t move there even if I wanted to and neither could anyone else, because it is not allowed to exist. Why? Doesn’t it seem odd that two groups of people who hate each other are forced by nationalist doctrine to remain in the same political unit?

    “I would feel sorry for the intelligent people in the states which are selected to form the new Republic[an] of Teabagistan because they will be forced to move to remain in the United States of America – but think of how much nicer it will be in the U.S.”

    So you agree…Secession should not only be allowed, but encouraged? The differences between the stupid teabaggers and wise rational types like yourself are simply too large and cannot be bridged. This seems obvious enough to myself, but the official position of the US government is that None Shall Ever Leave. They say good fences make good neighbors…maybe they’re right?

  • CoralSea

    Trinity and Teabago definitely works. But something must be done to rescue New Orleans if the T & T splits from the Union. We can’t allow its wonderful diversity and daubachery to fall victim to the laws that T & T would no doubt pass.

  • Ruslan Amirkhanov

    “Yes a thought experiment. Do you often find it necessary to use language like that in a disagreement? You might want to watch that, especially in an in-person disagreement.”

    Next time don’t bother trying to conceal your internet tough guy threats. Just be open about it. I’ll gladly explain why your idea is idiotic.

    “As explained to Erika (see above) the first comparison was between Detroit and Pittsburgh. I was comparing the habitibility of Detroit, Michigan, once a major center of the auto industry and largely black to that of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, once a major center of the steel industry and largely white. Yes, I misspelled Pittsburgh, sorry about that. Detroit and Pittsburgh were not such different places back in the fifties, though they are very different now, don’t you think?”

    Yes and your brilliant mind, which I’m sure carefully analyzed all the relevant historical data from both cities, came up with the brilliant conclusion that Detroit’s problems are due to the residents being black. This is why I called your thought experiment idiotic. It was just as stupid as when you compared socialist nations to capitalist nations, because virtually every nation which ever had a nominally socialist government was already underdeveloped and backward when they had their respective revolutions. Those that were industrialized previously were seriously devastated by the worst war in human history.

    But hey, we could just use YOUR logic and conclude that there must be some inherent inferiority among some Germans, Russians, Poles, Czechs, etc. It’s the same thing.

  • Erika

    I suspect that the Republic[an] of Teabagistan would clearly not want New Orleans and the entire State of Louisiana is likely too French for their tastes.

    I also suspect that the plains states might be a more likely location for Teabagistan than the South. Think about Kansas.