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Hate Group Leader to Serve as California State Judge
Gary Kreep, a longtime antigovernment activist, “birther” and hate group leader who uses anti-Obama rhetoric as a proxy for anti-Muslim hate, has emerged victorious in a tight race for a seat on San Diego’s Superior Court, the San Diego Union-Tribune reports.
Kreep, who received the San Diego County Bar Association’s lowest rating of “lacking qualifications,” beat opponent Garland Peed, a deputy district attorney of 27 years who received the county bar association’s highest rating and who was supported by local police unions and sitting judges.
The San Diego Superior Court is part of the state’s trial court system, which handles a wide variety of cases, including civil lawsuits and felony criminal cases. Kreep will serve a six-year term and earn an annual salary of $178,789.
Discussing his surprise victory with the Tribune, Kreep said, “I think the government’s increasingly being seen as the enemy. And the idea that we were going to have more government lawyers become judges is something that resonated with people.”
Kreep, who in recent years has received national attention for filing numerous “birther” lawsuits claiming baselessly that President Obama is constitutionally ineligible for office because he is supposedly not a U.S. citizen, is no government lawyer.
He is, however, founder and head the United States Justice Foundation (USJF), an anti-Muslim hate group that insists Muslim terrorists, with Obama’s help, are engaged in a campaign to destroy the U.S. Constitution and establish a government based on Islamic Shariah law.
In a 2011 fundraising letter for USJF, Kreep suggested that the president is a “stealth jihadist,” Marxist, and “strident enemy of America,” who “is working to destroy our sovereign republic.”
“When you put together the puzzle pieces, the picture becomes clear: Barack Obama hates America … and you!” he wrote.
He also bragged about the USJF’s efforts against “liberal groups that seek to steal YOUR basic freedoms,” especially “the gun-grabbing, border-erasing globalists at the United Nations.”
Kreep founded USJF in 1979 and has worked there full-time since 1992, involving himself with all manner of bigots and antigovernment activists.
In 2008, he worked with Rick Scarborough, head of the virulently anti-gay Vision America, to raise money to fund a lawsuit demanding that Obama produce his birth certificate. The same year, after a California Supreme Court decision legalized same-sex marriage in that state, he filed a lawsuit asking the state to stop issuing gender-neutral marriage licenses.
In 2009, Kreep successfully sued the Californian Department of Transportation for revoking an adopt-a-highway permit granted to the San Diego Minutemen, a nativist extremist group so extreme that other border-vigilante “Minuteman” groups have rejected it.
In 2011, he filed a brief asking a federal court to overturn several verdicts against antigovernment icon Bernard von Nothaus, creator of an alternative currency called the “Liberty Dollar” and head of his own marijuana-smoking church, who was convicted in March 2011 on charges of conspiracy and counterfeiting.
This spring, he signed on to represent Gary Stein, a Marine sergeant who was given an “other-than-honorable” discharge for Internet postings in which he described the president, among other things, as a “domestic, economic and religious enemy.”
As a Superior Court judge, Kreep will no longer be permitted to represent clients as an attorney. He will also be required to abide by California’s Code of Judicial Ethics, which, among other things, notes that “expressions of bias or prejudice by a judge, even outside the judge’s judicial activities, may cast reasonable doubt on the judge’s capacity to act impartially.”
Philip Carrizosa, a spokesperson for the California Administrative Office of the Courts, told Hatewatch that sitting judges may not engage in political activism, except as it pertains to the administration of justice. Asked if challenging the president of the United States’ citizenship would be considered unacceptable political activism, Carrizosa said, “He would have to cease doing that.”
on June 20th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Thus guy’s last name is Kreep?
You just can’t make these things up, it would be too unbelievable to be true.
Incidentially, what were te people who voted for the creepy Kreep thinking?
on June 20th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
I suspect nobody would ever have voted for a candidate named Kreep if the other one hadn’t been named Peed. Superficial, but honestly, you can’t make it up.
on June 20th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
And his name is “Kreep”? Aptly named and I’m sure that I am not the first to make that comment.
on June 20th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Just imagine all the vile things this S.D. Supreme Court judge will do during his tenure. I can already see him taking on the already Supreme Court debunked “birther” agenda, if Obama was re-elected and much more.
And it sure won’t be pretty.
on June 20th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
I hope for his sake. That he doesn’t take up any “political” activities.
I’m willing to believe that he’ll resign from his bench within 6 years. You do know that the abhorrent WNs can’t seem to let their “political” views aside. It’s a psychological and mental illness, no matter what office they hold.
on June 20th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
I hope he gets removed from the bench with extreme prejudice because of his OWN extreme prejudices!
on June 20th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Yeah, I have a feeling we’re going to see motions for recusal, applications for writs of prohibition, and JQC complaints before he’s served three months.
on June 20th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
I wonder what percentage of eligible voters actually participated in this election. It would not surprise me to learn that voter apathy had a part to play in this man’s victory. In the past, I myself tended to be lazy when it came to getting informed about judicial candidates, assuming that judges would always work to be fair and impartial regardless of their personal politics. But all my years as a “dinner table liberal” came to an abrupt end when I began to realize how determined the extreme right was to seize power, and to sneak in when people’s backs were turned.
If any good comes from the election of this Kreep, it will be that the voting public will be jolted out of its complacency, and will do their homework when it comes to vetting judicial candidates in the future.
on June 20th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
I can’t see him serving for long. He’ll be breaking laws or doing SOMETHING boneheaded that’ll force the government to kick him out. My money’s on two months… MAX.
on June 20th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Dare I say he will be “jackin it in San Diego”?
on June 20th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
I would strongly suggest that everyone start writing and making this known to your local representatives and draw the necessary attention to this that it deserves. If this is true the last thing we need are racists serving in our courtrooms.
on June 21st, 2012 at 7:02 am
It’s just wrong to hate another group of people Racism is bad in any form although I do understand with all the putting Muslims above us all Obama has created hatred against them and like all racism it just builds up to destruction. So like the black against white or white against black it may never end and there is no consideration for the future of our young even Obama’s children will pay the price for what he has done but he just don’t care. While I did not nor would I ever vote for Obama because I see what he would be like and I was right but when he was put in I hoped he would cause racial healing. Just too much to hope for I guess.
on June 21st, 2012 at 9:09 am
There is no healing when people fundamentally, religiously, mentally, and emotionally – think they are superior to someone else. You can’t heal that. When someone thinks God gave them the right to be “Right”.
You have to breed that out. From what I can see, X-Generation, Y-Generation, Indigo & Crystal children, will take care of that with their children. More minorities were born last year that non-minorities.
But my experience has told me that you can’t heal that – I wish you could. The only time I’ve ever seen an adult change their heart about racisim is under fire.
on June 21st, 2012 at 9:20 am
Don, would you mind explaining that again? Maybe with a little less crazy this time?
on June 21st, 2012 at 10:24 am
Discussing his surprise victory with the Tribune, Kreep said, “I think the government’s increasingly being seen as the enemy. And the idea that we were going to have more government lawyers become judges is something that resonated with people.”
And yet, he has no problem accepting a paycheck from the enemy. In his world view, doesn’t that constitute theft from the taxpayers? If he lasts more than 18 months on the bench before he faces misconduct charges then I will be very surprised.
on June 21st, 2012 at 11:52 am
I just read the Tribune story referred to in this article, and it was disappointing to see how hard the writer worked to appear “centrist” in the face of the ridiculous claims of the birther movement. Here is an example:
“Nationally, critics have questioned his work on the lawsuit challenging Obama’s birth certificate because almost all experts agree the president was born in the U.S.”
Almost all experts agree? When will the media accept the President’s citizenship as a fact, and report it as such? The so-called liberal media has played it’s part in perpetuating this myth by making statements like that.
Thanks again, SPLC, for having the courage to speak the truth when the mainstream media is too wishy-washy to do so.
on June 21st, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Get wise, people!!
Since the 1% have neutalized much of their opposition in the legislative branch, & they have a sfrongly funded frontrunner for the executive branch, then all that’s left is to infiltrate & weaken the judiciary.
This pattern is being run on both the Federal & state & local levels.
Take a long look around you! This is how dictatorial regimes maintain their power for decades & centuries.
on June 21st, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Should anyone be surprised that this man was elected in the state which gave us Nancy, Helen and Governor Moonbeam?
on June 21st, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Oh!…for the wonderful days of the late 60s. Haight-Ashbury, Joplin, Jefferson Airplane, Mamas & Papas, Jane Fonda, Grace Slick, Joan Baez. We sure could use their intelligence right now. My Heros, One and All!
on June 21st, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Uh Don, how did Obama put Muslims above you? The guy is actually responsible for the deaths of quite a few Muslims.
on June 21st, 2012 at 12:41 pm
His name. Is Kreep.
How… fitting.
on June 21st, 2012 at 12:47 pm
That’s the single biggest thing I like about him…he is not afraid to squeeze the trigger. I like him on foreign policy, I like where he stands socially, economically??? Oh heck, I’m getting off subject again. My bad.
on June 21st, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Reading this story made me wonder where the good would come from. By the end I saw it…he will no longer be able to spout ugly political rhetoric and maintain the status of being a judge. We cannot sink to his level but keep our thoughts and actions focused on peace and good for everyone. I believe that is what Martiin Luther King, Jr. would do.
on June 21st, 2012 at 1:04 pm
When I saw the headline I could only think what has been wrought. Then I got to the Liberty Dollar and I have not stopped laughing. You have to hold a gun on the clerks to take it I did like the pot smoking church, I wonder if he knows the Rastafarians did it first. Even though the two last names are way to Marx, that is Groucho this shows the sad state of the (non)thinking voter. Remember folks not one dollar for education but two for a gun that is Second Amendment and please no Liberty dollars.
on June 21st, 2012 at 1:09 pm
People better wake up to what the Ultra Conservative Right-Wing Birthers are doing to this country. These traitors to the USA government is being elected by obstructionists and liars. Narrow-minded people that would love to over-throw the government to suit their hate-felt agenda. This is serious business and we all need to take a long hard look at what is really going on in this country. Isn’t this how Hitler got into office? What amazes me is how much they hate big government, but sure love big government jobs and paychecks. Typical hypocrites that talk the talk but don’t walk the walk. The plot thickens…
on June 21st, 2012 at 1:17 pm
As outrageous as i find Mr. Kreep,s racial and political views, he is atthe end of the day just another Creep ( pun intended) who will assuredly implode upon himself, and save California the trouble of kicking him to the curb.
on June 21st, 2012 at 1:19 pm
I saw this story on Rachel Madow. Who are the people who actually voted for him? How could any reasonable person vote for him over Peed? Is this a reflection of the influence of Fox and right wing radio? Is if is, this country is really in trouble.
on June 21st, 2012 at 2:42 pm
203,398 people voted for Kreep. That’s a lot of hate.
SUPERIOR COURT – Office No. 34
Precincts: 1643
Counted: 1643
Percentage: 100.0%
GARY GEORGE KREEP
203,398
50.19%
GARLAND PEED
201,826
49.81%
on June 21st, 2012 at 2:46 pm
This man is a DISGRACE, and so are ALL of those who voted for him. Shame on the citizens who live in that area.
on June 21st, 2012 at 3:17 pm
It is now considered hate speech to speak out against the president and against other religions??? Wow, I keep seeing my constitutional rights slip further and further down the drain thanks to groups like SPLC.
on June 21st, 2012 at 3:20 pm
“Philip Carrizosa, a spokesperson for the California Administrative Office of the Courts, told Hatewatch that sitting judges may not engage in political activism, except as it pertains to the administration of justice. Asked if challenging the president of the United States’ citizenship would be considered unacceptable political activism, Carrizosa said, “He would have to cease doing that.”
My world view says here’s what should happen:
Their election was this past Tuesday 6/19/12. I haven’t researched the date of the final canvass but whenever that is, people who voted for Mr. Peed and anyone else with legal standing need to start keeping a chronological logging of the behaviors.
I would love to see SPLC’s Legal staff – lawyers or paralegals – post the actual California Revised Code and/or California Administrative Law to prove that the Superior Court spokesperson Philip Carrizosa is 100% correct in order to raise my spirits.
I’m sick of the extreme right everythings’ demands that judges should only follow the letter of the law and not interpret laws. I think in the case of “Judge” Kreep – if he really ends up winning upon completion of the final canvass, it’s time to turn the tables and make sure “Judge” Kreep is held to the “letter of the law.” Please!
on June 21st, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Never, ever again will I vote for a person, issue or law without careful investigation. In this particular case I did not vote for him. However, I’ll admit that in the past I have voted when I shouldn’t have. It is getting scary out there. We have to be so careful to keep hate-minded individuals and issues where they should be–in the garbage can, and not in our government.
on June 21st, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Wentra – Maybe you want to tell me how your constitutional rights are being violated and we can get this rectified.
on June 21st, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Well, I guess electing him to a judgeship (wow, those standards must be rigorous) will at least, theoretically, curb his obnoxious and bigoted activities.
on June 21st, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Some people have already healed it in their lives. The only ones who have not healed it are those that embrace the hate. And it’s unfortunate for the rest of us whom they try to push and force their hate upon. That’s why we have courts and legislation to deal with those that refuse to live civilly in America.
Hating is a personal choice that when acted upon illegally has legal consequences.
on June 21st, 2012 at 4:09 pm
When I read this story and saw the initial comments, I thought, “I’m not going to comment on this because I won’t be able to help myself from lapsing into ribald humor over the names.” So I am not going to comment.
But since I am already here:
Don Gaines — you need to be on medication. President Obama doesn’t “favor Muslims” over you — unless you mean that his efforts to work with moderate Muslims and his unwillingness to engage in unwarranted demonization of them means “favoring” them.
Wentra — I believe that you willfully misunderstand what SPLC does and that you are probably one of those petulant people who goes around looking for things that offend you.
Dave Winter and Moderate Mike regarding concerns about “Kreeps” getting through — I absolutely agree with you. I guess it’s been long enough so that a lot of people have either forgotten–or are too young to have heard about–the whole deal with Lyndon LaRouche and his LaRouchies, some of whom got into various offices because the people who voted for them didn’t know who they were (and I believe that they had managed to wangle spots at the tops of the ballots, which are often marked by people who simply want to vote, but don’t know who).
The cautionary note here is: know who you are voting for or leave it blank!!! I learned this the hard way when I voted for someone who turned out to be barking mad in a local election, without knowing who they were, because I was there to vote for several candidates for other positions who I did know about and endorse. (The memory stil fills me with shame!)
Finally, Moderate Mike again — regarding the “most experts agree Obama was born in the U.S.” news reporting (or words to that effect), agree whole-heartedly. Once again, media FAIL. While balance is important, there comes a point where evidence is just so overwhelming that you just don’t give equal time to the guy who insists the earth is flat!
There — see — I didn’t make any comments about the candidates names!
on June 21st, 2012 at 4:44 pm
San Diego is very right wing. Anti-Communist rallies were held at my high school, Herbert Hoover, in the 60′s. Nixon spoke at an assembly, on our football field, David Duke was interviewed volunteering to police the border, by local television, like it was an ordinary event, the police stopped and frisked us, just walking, two or three times a day, and we’re white. We often discussed how abusive they must have been to everyone else. Our worst crime was underage drinking. By ’67, when my hair was longer, I was hated and hunted by the police on an equal tier with my black, brown and gay brothers. Their angry glares were equal to what Jews must have looked into in 30′s Berlin. Yeah, San Diego; it’s as pretty as a postcard, but, extremely ugly and dangerous to the unsuspecting. I’ve worked hard, most of my life, in management, in hospitals, insurance and don’t have an ax to grind. I’m not surprised that Mr. Kreep is holding public office. My heart goes out to the victims/citizens of SanDiego County.
on June 21st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
“Wow, I keep seeing my constitutional rights slip further and further down the drain thanks to groups like SPLC.”
Really, Wentra? Which of your rights are being violated? Did you recently get arrested for publicly doubting the President’s citizenship? Did this happen to someone you know? If so, what were the charges? Perhaps you’ve been told that you cannot own a gun? Have you been forced to allow soldiers to live in your home? Has your home searched without a warrant? Have you been forced to make a confession to the police? Have you been denied the right to a jury trial?
Come on, Wentra, if you have some specifics, then please share them with the class. In particular, I would like to know in what way SPLC is connected to the violation of your rights. Since they posted your comment, however, it already looks like they are doing a pitiful job of suppressing you.
on June 21st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
I’VE SAID IT BEFORE – THERE SHOULD BE STANDARDIZED TEST FOR ALL GOVERNMENT DECISSON MAKERS TO SCREEN OUT THE FRUITCAKES AND MONGERS OF THE WORLD
on June 21st, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Well, Wentra, you see how repressive of free speech we are. When you bark, we print it.
on June 21st, 2012 at 10:45 pm
the fox will be guarding the hen house. why do anti government people want to work for the government? his idea of reforming the system will be making it non functional for those of us who dont write 300 page scrawling letters proclaiming ownership of whatever we want and putting liens on people we dislike.
on June 21st, 2012 at 11:09 pm
“It is now considered hate speech to speak out against the president and against other religions???”
It depends on what you say.
” Wow, I keep seeing my constitutional rights slip further and further down the drain thanks to groups like SPLC.”
Nobody is denying your constitutional rights. The 1st Amendment says that Congress shall make no law…etc. It doesn’t mean that you can say what you want without drawing criticism from those who hear it.
on June 22nd, 2012 at 12:00 am
Uhggg! And San Diego is where I grew up!! Why has this beautiful city become so right-wing? Do I need to leave San Francisco and go back to my hometown to try to bring some balance to the ultra-conservative atmosphere?
on June 22nd, 2012 at 9:02 am
I hate it when they “love you and leave you”.
“I’m gonna post and let them have it, and then, I’m not gonna say nothing else!”
on June 22nd, 2012 at 9:07 am
“I’m gonna scare them into my way of thinking – with my silence…
“And then…I’m gonna be pissed off…in private.”
C’mon, what rights are being violated? I need to know. I’m an Oath Keeper dog gone it!
I’m just not a conservative one. But if you’re gonna make a point, you gotta back it up.
I think a number of conversative talk show hosts do a pretty good job at bashing our President on a daily basis, they even got nicknames for him, vis-a-vis, Barack Millhouse Obama – courtesy of Mark Levin.
As far as I know, they’re still on the air, and Sean still has his show on Fox. No suppression there. I still have my guns. I still have my Bible, and other books, that I don’t really read anymore. Nothing’s been taken away.
Lately, I’ve been wondering why I pay dues – nobody answer that…. ;)
Well……
on June 22nd, 2012 at 9:44 am
oh puhleaze Joseph, having you been paying attention, sweetie?
The fact that Obama hasn’t taking the entire on air staff of Fox News away in chains to a Socialist Moslem Fascist Nazi Reeducation Camp and confiscated all personally owned guns to melt down into metals honoring Che, Mohammad, Hitler, and Lenin (whose faces will replace the current faces on Mt. Rushmore) which will be provided as wedding gifts when everyone is forced to have a homosexual marriage to a person of a different race (but paradoxially there will also be black gangrape squads running around raping white women who if they get pregnant from the rapes will be forced to undergo abortions) merely proves that he is going to.
The truth is out there I tell you ;)
on June 22nd, 2012 at 9:45 am
oopsie, I forgot Communist :(
Its hard trying to sound crazy enough to parody a right wing conspiracy nut :)
on June 22nd, 2012 at 9:53 am
you know, the creepy Kreep has apparently managed to stay licensed as an attorney for 30 years – that means he has already managed better than Fred Phelps who barely lasted a decade before being disbarred to disguise his crazy in court and dealing with opposing counsel.
the really sad part is that I kind of agree with the kreepy Kreep that there are too many prosecutors who become judges – and seeing a judge endorced by police unions is extremely alarming to anyone who cares at all about due process – but I see that as a weakness of an elected judiciary.
on June 22nd, 2012 at 10:03 am
Erika –
I think Joseph was being sarcastic. From his other posts, he certainly doesn’t believe that stuff.
on June 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 am
Yeah, I was being sarcastic, but no defense needed here, but Erica doesn’t believe I’m a veteran anyway.
I do still have my guns. They do still have their talk shows. And the President does still get bashed.
I was making the point that you just made (at my expense no less) but hey, let’s get into it again.
You didn’t get a date for your junior prom or something?
on June 22nd, 2012 at 11:41 am
Erica – See, I have to go with something childish (i.e. junior prom) because I actually agree with probably 90% of your viewpoints.
It’s proven difficult for any of the SPLC posts to get into that 10% I probably would not agree with, because they’re probably all economic. I have found that we basically agree on the constitutional debate and you all like it just as much as I do. All that was needed was a dialogue.
We can just sling mudd if you want too. It would probably bore the other readers to death though. Or if you want, I just won’t respond to any of your posts, and vice versa.
on June 22nd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Joseph, I know that you were being sarcastic- I had hoped that by being so obviously over the top it would be obvious that I was imitating a right wing conspiracy nut troll.
I never met to imply that you believed anything like that. I’m sorry, hon.
(and now that I’ve heard more from you, I believe you – I actually apologized to you for doubting you and implying that you were lying as well).
and I looked very pretty at my junior prom :)
on June 22nd, 2012 at 1:55 pm
ok, now, seriously – as a retired NJ attorney, this is a bit much -
how did this creep actually qualify for this election bid?
no standards at all?
it’s a bit much – even tho’ in Nj there were workers comp “judges” who couldn’t even read, and were put there for campaign donations by the Gov. of the day –
truly a disgusting system.
on June 22nd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
I bet you did look pretty at you’re junior prom….my bad.
on June 22nd, 2012 at 4:09 pm
you know, the kreepy Kreep may be the first judge for whom putting random punctionation marks in your name may actually work (at least until his decision gets overturned on appeal).
you also know that getting $178,000 a year to not hear many cases since apparently California law makes it easy to get a case before a different judge would be very nice work if you can get it – maybe the Kreepy Kreep is onto something.
on June 22nd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Joseph, any young lady who dares contemplate a Peach Bottom bikini must have reason to be confident of her looks.
on June 23rd, 2012 at 12:31 am
Please, friends, leave the personal stuff out of this. Exchange email addresses if you want to, but let’s stay on topic. Going personal means the next time I see your name I probably will skip past whatever you have to say as a likely waste of time.
Thanks!
on June 24th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Grumbler, please understand that this is a virtual Stammtisch, and that some of us have been coming here a while. If no one is going to actually request that the coffee pot or the lager pitcher be past, occasionally something social will be said, and past threads alluded to. Now, relax, and try the pretzels- they’re quite good.
on June 24th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Passed, I meant- my, that was quaint!
on June 24th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Grumbler, if there was some way to exchange email addresses, I would have done so long ago. Barring that, I guess you’ll just have to be a little tolerant.
on June 25th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Grumbler, just cleaning up a misunderstanding in order to prepare for many future intellectually oriented posts and discussions. That’s all. Although, I do love a nice bikini. Had to get this out of the way.
on June 25th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Perhaps I missed something in this article…..what “Hate Group” is this man the leader of?
on June 25th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Grumbler, perhaps if you want substance you would like to comment on my suggestion that contrary to people’s claims that the Kreepy Kreep will soon find out that he won’t be able to actually hear cases and be disappointed that perhaps that is what the Kreepy Kreep is counting on.
I have a feeling that it is very likely that being a lawyer for hate groups, sovereign citizens, patriot groups, and random nutcases likely doesn’t pay very well and lacks a decent retirement plan. what better way to retire than by becoming a judge – all of his patriot group and sovereign citizen buddies will be excited rather than disappointed that he quit and he knows he will be excused from hearing just about any case – plus he’ll no doubt get a fat judicial pension while getting to rob his enemy the state. he might even be able to win a second term if there are a sufficient number of nuts out there.
so think about whether the Kreepy Kreep is really a supergenious who has come up with the most brilliant retirement plan an anti-government lawyer ever came up with (its much more brilliant that Fred Phelps plan of traveling the country to protest against soldier funerals).
or if you prefer just think about me wearing a peach and white bikini :)
on June 25th, 2012 at 11:06 am
blonde, according to the article it is the United States Justice Foundation – and um, I’ve never heard of it or the Kreepy Kreep either which adds support for my theory that perhaps the Kreepy Kreep is merely seeking a lucrative retirement gig.
on June 25th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Although it’s certainly a right wing/ultra-conservative non-profit group, I didn’t see anything that classified them as a “Hate Group.” Does the mere fact an organization promotes beliefs that aren’t in-line with Liberal/Right-Wingers, make them a “Hate Group?”
Judge for yourself. Be informed!
https://usjf.net/about-2/
on June 25th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Well “Blonde”, let’s just assume for the moment that politics isn’t the issue. Take this statement:
“In a 2011 fundraising letter for USJF, Kreep suggested that the president is a “stealth jihadist,” Marxist, and “strident enemy of America,” who “is working to destroy our sovereign republic.””
This is the statement of an utter moron. How could anyone believe that a man who is allegedly a secret Muslim “stealth jihadist” bent on installing a government run via Sharia law is also a “Marxist?” Extreme ignorance, that’s how.
So it is clear that leader of the group or not, this person is simply too stupid to serve as a judge, and should be fired.
on June 25th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Blonde, I hope your bleach didn’t pass the brain barrier.
on June 25th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
I wasn’t saying the man isn’t an idiot. I was just questioning him being a leader of a so called “Hate Group.” Just because someone has their own idealogies about what’s right for the country, or wrong for the country, doesn’t mean it’s a hate group, simply based on the person, or group of people he doesn’t like or support. If that was the case, then everyone calling him names and pointing out his questioable political charachter/motives, is hating on him. His allegations that President Obama is a “Stealth Jihadist” is a ridiculous, but he is still entitled to his opinion without being classified with the sensational title of bieng a “Hate Group Leader.”
on June 25th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Well since you put it that way… I’m not really a big fan of using the word “hate” so liberally either, if only because it doesn’t teach us anything about where these ideologies come from and why they exist.
But a person who demonizes Muslims the way he does, and leads an organization for that purpose, can justifiably be called a hate group.
on June 25th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Sorry Reynardine, I just looked back at some of your other posts, and saw the Peach Bikini comments. Pardon me for thinking I could possibly have an online conversation with a group of intellectuals, albeit, obviouse left wingers, about what the definition of a “Hate Group” is. I’ll log off here now so you can go back to chatting about peach bikinis.
on June 25th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Blonde,
You obviously have NO IDEA about which you speak. Perhaps you would care to wade through the 250 comments on the ‘Manosphere’ post from which the bikini meme originated.
But considering how obtuse YOU’VE been, I don’t think you’ll be terribly missed. Don’t let the door hitcha on the way out!
on June 25th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Has Cotton Candy Head (whoops) Blonde gone off to pout?
on June 25th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
The race was between Kreep vs. Peed…LOL!
on June 26th, 2012 at 7:37 am
I’m obtuse because I don’t agree with something? That’s the problem with you Libs, you love to bash people you like to call “Hate Mongers” or “Racists” simply based on their opinions being different than yours about what THEY believe in! You claim to defend freedom of speech, yet someone who speaks freely about their opinion is called obtuse, has no idea about which they speak, and is accused of having a ‘bleach’ affected brain?! You are no different than this Kreep fellow who won a Judges seat in California based on a DEMOCRATIC election! You express hate toward someone you don’t even know because their opinion is different from yours.
on June 26th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Blonde, its just too bad that you are leaving because I was going to explain to you the difference between a difference in opinion and hate
see, a difference of opinion is saying that “brunettes are prettier than blondes.” matters of personal attraction are the very definition of personal opinion.
Hate would be saying “brunettes are smarter than blondes” – there is no known link between hair color and intelligence so this statement can only be a result of prejustice against blondes.
see, if someone makes statements which are products of only prejustice and have no basis in reality it is fair to claim they are a hate group.
And a peach “Find Radiant Joy in Peach Bottom” bikini is in fact quite intellectual :)
on June 26th, 2012 at 8:50 am
I thought Blonde was a rather fluffheaded little trollette. Pass her the coffee- she’ll probably just get screechier, but there’s an off chance her brain cell will wake up.
on June 26th, 2012 at 9:14 am
I love your assumption I am female……and blonde! Thank you for proving to me what I already believed about people who follow the left wing garbage on this sight. Go back to your NPR folks! See ya again soon!
on June 26th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Maybe she doesn’t look good in a bikini?
on June 26th, 2012 at 10:16 am
If that is a guy calling himself “blonde”, his French is wrenched. The correct masculine/neutral is “blond”. Man or woman, brute or human, I bet it doesn’t look good in a bikini. Coryphodons don’t.
on June 26th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Blonde, I called you obtuse because you refused to even engage in the debate. All you did was engage in pejoratives.
And the reason we all thought you were a woman is because ‘blonde’ is the feminine form of the word.
Come back when you can make a meaningful contribution to the discussion, Blondie.
on June 26th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Well, Aron, and now it is saying we were gullible even to believe it had blond hair (though perhaps it does…in a trophy chest under its bed). Formerly, we were willing to credit it with just being stupid. Now, since it was either lying when it called itself “blonde” or lying when it implied it wasn’t, we have to assume it is pointlessly mendacious, besides.
on June 26th, 2012 at 11:38 am
and I was so sure that we finally found an example of the “Rush Babes for America”
But really, its just another mysognist with poor reading comprehension, an inflated sense of self worth, and a sense of humor so bad that he or she still finds “blonde jokes” to be funny – not to mention actually thinking that “you Libs” is a valid retort.
Of course, this may well answer the question on who would actually vote for the Kreepy Kreep
on June 26th, 2012 at 11:42 am
incidentially, its pretty clear that the non-blonde blonde definitely has no concept of what a hypothetical statement is.
on June 26th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Well, no, Erika, I doubt it could construct a hypothetical, but it probably wasn’t trying to. It was just telling what it thought were terribly clever little lies.
on June 26th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Not to be a buzz kill, gentlemen, but I think you should consider dialing back on the gender-based negative comments you are making against “Blonde.” She or he is indeed obtuse, and, it would seem, one of those folks who goes out of her way to be offended, but “she” doesn’t deserve to have her appearance attacked or have other gender-linked stereotypical slurs directed at her.
I quite enjoy reading the regular contributors to these comments, which was why, after years of simply reading in silence, I decided to join the fray. And I am also sure that I would enjoy most all of you (Erika, Aron, Ruslan, Reynardine, Joseph, etc.) in person. I also enjoy the clever skewerings that often take place of racist and/or crackpot right-wing oafs (and the like) on this site by all of you. I do have a problem with the gratuitous use of gender-based put-downs, however.
A lot of sites on the Internet are male-dominated when it comes to commenters (I would expect that men wouldn’t notice this, but it is true if you look). Since I like guys and guy-humor (yes, although female and all touchy-feely with the environmental work, I do enjoy a dose of rough, crude humor on a fairly regular basis), I read a humor website and, since the comments are often the best part, I registered with a “nom du guerre” that indicated that I was female. This experience was rather an eye-opener. Some of the regulars liked my comments, but I typically got way more down-votes than up-votes, along with a fair share of patronizing and raunchy remarks. I wondered, “are my comments simply not funny? Have I not been commenting long enough, and is this some sort of hazing all commenters go through?” So I re-registered using a masculine persona (not “Chet Chesthair” in terms of macho, but close). Low and behold, I get almost all up-votes now, and a lot of them, even though I am making the same types of comments. It does make one think about sexism on the Internet (or it makes some of us think about it).
I hope I haven’t insulted anyone or cultivated enmity against myself, because I do respect SPLC’s work and find the blog instructive; I also really like and respect the regular contributors to the comments section.
on June 26th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Sorry I thought you were a girl. Calling me a Lib is not the insult it used to be. :)
But…you can fix your typo using white out, directly on your screen if you like.
LIberal / Conservative / Democrat / Republican / Teabagger – don’t matter, silly is still spelled the same.
“if you can’t take the heat…”
on June 26th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
CoralSea, if you really want to see mysogny try being openly female and commenting on legal websites sometime.
on June 26th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Coral Sea, “Blonde” itself was deliberately playing on the dumb blonde stereotype, but it gave itself away too soon.
I myself, due to a mixture of white/reddish/sunburnt hair, look blond from a distance. That is neither here nor there. Some years back, in response to a Mafia-themed thread, I used “La Piovra” as a screen name, a synonym for “Cosa Nostra”, and like it, a grammatical feminine (though it indicates an aggregate of plural individuals who are mostly men). That grammatical feminine gender got me addressed with unbelievable vileness on what was supposed to be a respectable forum, and the moderators didn’t give a damn. So I don’t doubt you.
I truly would like to meet most of the regulars here. Some of the interlopers we could do without. That rotten little corpse-defiler, herein unnamed, is another matter, and out of consideration for our prudently prudish mods, I shan’t describe the images he stirs in my mind.
on June 26th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
I was actually reading this and responding to it under my wife’s account, that’s where the username Blonde comes in. Aside from that, how pathetic that you are still bashing me! Why offer a hypothesis or sense of humor with people who are clearly educated beyond their own intelligence! Get a life!
on June 26th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Joseph, don’t you start with the “blonde” jokes – they simply aren’t funny and tend to be rather sexist
on June 26th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
and incidentially, CoralSea, if you really want to go after sexism look at the fact that “blonde” seems to believe that being called a woman is an insult.
that is why I think “mysognist” who still thinks that “blonde jokes” are funny.
on June 26th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Blondie, there are no ‘accounts’ here. If there were, I wouldn’t need to enter the exact same information into the comment section every time I used a new computer. Once again, I believe you were being intentionally obtuse.
on June 26th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Well, “blonde” has owned up to being a man (if you want to call him that). And now, Mr. Husband-of-Blonde, since you dislike our company, which never invited you in the first place, you are once more welcome to leave.
on June 26th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Reynardine — thanks for the story of your own experiences on websites as an apparent female. It can be intense sometimes, as well as disturbing. Now — “corpse-defiler” — that’s a description that I heartily endorse and enjoy.
Erika — I hear you on the “legal website” thing. As a woman who works in a still male-dominated field (environmental consulting is still very male, although not nearly as much as when I started. There are rather a lot of women geologists now, although the professional literature still runs regular stories on how difficult it is to keep them because of harassment in the field, and how a significant number change majors after dealing with shit-heads during field camp [shit-heads is a technical term]). However, I have gotten to an age where I am willing, in some forums, to call people out over it. I am well aware of some of the macho, dick-measuring posturing among attorneys, since I work with a lot of them, and web posting tends to bring out the beasts in us all from time to time.
Frankly, I am surprised that “Blonde” is in fact, a male (or that he is claiming to be). There were certain, uh, I guess the best word is “characteristics” to his initial posts — the coy nature of the intial questioning, the petulant comment about the bikini comment, and some other word choices that suggested to me that “Blonde” was a female, but unfortunately, a stupid one, unlike Erika or myself. I’m still not entirely convinced, although it’s neither here nor there at this point as far as I’m concerned.
Also, Reynardine, I am a “ginger” (redhead). You haven’t lived until you’ve been the only woman working on a contaminated site undergoing demolition, charged with taking samples of suspicious substances to ensure that they aren’t something hazardous that needs special handling, and having a bunch of guys chanting “firecrotch” at you while you are trying to deal with the weird liquid that never freezes and funny-colored soil that turns out to be 2% cyanide. But like several other who comment on this site, I write fiction in my spare time, and I simply view such experiences as fodder for my writing.
on June 26th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Ruslan Amirkhanov said,
on June 25th, 2012 at 11:57 am
“This is the statement of an utter moron. How could anyone believe that a man who is allegedly a secret Muslim “stealth jihadist” bent on installing a government run via Sharia law is also a “Marxist?” Extreme ignorance, that’s how. ”
I think that we are being cruel to the word “ignorance” here. We use it way too often, and in manners that it should not be used.
I was brought up to the understanding that ignorance is not knowing information, while stupidity is knowing information, but continuing to use incorrect information anyway. Thus, people would know, by now, that the Earth is round, and anyone saying it is flat is “stupid” (not ignorant).
It is like saying someone is being misleading with information instead of just saying that “they are lying”.
I think that we, as liberals/progressives/Democrats, like to think of ourselves as above average in intelligence and education (and when compared to some of the trolls here, it’s not hard to think that), and we often like to believe our ‘opponents’ in our debates are like ourselves in knowledge and articulation.
We HAVE to stop thinking this way, and stop using the Marquis of Queensbury rules of debate here. How many times have you read something on this page here, and wonder how the person was even able to sign into their computer? These are the ignorant ones, to the most part, but to call someone like Judge Kreep ignorant (even if using the adjective “extremely”), is taking things, imo, a bit too far.
Judge Kreep (sheesh, I hate using such a title), is educated, and has to be keeping pace of information that he is interested in. That he decides to ignore facts, or to dispute the information that is verified by multiple sources no longer makes him ignorant, but stupid (perhaps “extremely” so?).
Children are ignorant. Tribal members of the Amazon are ignorant. Teens raised by wolves are ignorant.
Adults who have been through the school system, have access to media (be it newspaper, radio, television, internet), and still believe in the ridiculous after being informed the truth of about an issue, are NOT ignorant. They are stupid.
Otherwise, I love reading your posts Rusian, and agree with you 99.995% of the time.
on June 26th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
I couldn’t help that one. Hey, I’m a Sailor, bald and short, if that helps.
on June 26th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Coral Sea, I was not a true redhead myself (sandy brown hair that rusted in the ever-present Florida sun is more like it), but always was such a sucker for little red-headed kids (they can sell me Girl Scout cookies, Boy Scout doodads, little crystal pyramids, etc, and even make me take kittens when I have room for not one more) that I think if I’d had any of my own, they’d have been redheads. The importation of “gingerism” from Across the Pond has me burnt up. Don’t we have enough bigotries of our own?
“Ginger”, like “Carrots”, “Rusty”, “Rhubarb”, and sometimes (for females) “Peaches”, have cropped up as nicknames, usually affectionate, for individuals, but “gingerism” and the odious nicknames that go with it are something new. I wish we could deport foreign bigotries, but you make it sound like this one is already naturalized.
on June 26th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Blomberg, “stupid” isn’t right, either, because it contemplates that the person is an organic oligophrenic who can’t learn better. These, however, are people whose assumed stupidity gives them cover for being willfully mean.
“Pigheaded” and “bullheaded” give some idea of their intransigence, yet those are basically innocent animals who eat grass (and in the case of pigs, less esthetically pleasing matter). Phrases like “intransigent malice”, though accurate, are too elegant. We’ve got to come up with something else. Suggestions, anyone?
on June 26th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Reynardine –
One of my favorite description is “triumphantly ignorant,” or “triumphant in her/his ignorance.” I think I ran across this concept (or being incredibly ignorant and either proud of that fact, or so self-centered that the individual simply assumed that if he/she thought it, it had to be right), in Vladimir Nabokov’s “Lolita” years ago
These are, I believe, extremely useful descriptors, given the teapartiers, WNs, League of the South-ites and other assorted folks penchant for both astounding ignorance and abject stupidity. But — you are correct. It can be difficult to deliver witty comebacks to such folks in response to their comments because of their all-too-frequently limited vocabulary.
Also, since I spent rather a lot of time in England growing up, I was introduced to the whole Ginger thing at a tender age. I have found, however, that possessing a freckled face has been useful, as it is difficult for others to stare intently at me (in an effort to intimidate, etc.) because the freckles just sort of reflect glares–or maybe disorient the viewer, whose unconscious mind attempts to “connect the dots.”
on June 26th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Freckles in this country tend to be associated with innocence in humans, just as fuzzy faces are with Benji dogs. I’ve heard that the nast English attitudes towards them have something to do with hating Celts.
on June 26th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
CoralSea, you genuinely amaze me. You continue to post these wonderful comments in spite of the well-known fact that as a ginger, you possess no soul! Astonishing!!!
;-)
on June 26th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Actually, vegetable catalogues offer intriguing possibilities for attitude description. Heirloom cabbage sections alone contain such tantalizing offerings as Dutch Stonehead and Danish Ballhead. And then, among the fish of the sea, there is the Hammerhead. All of these hold out a certain promise.
on June 26th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Actually, hammer-headed sounds pretty good. It suggests density and aggression in one. A chronic evincer of this quality is a Hammerhead.
on June 27th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Aron –
About that “no soul” thing. Yes — it’s true. As a Ginger (and not a Day-walking Ginger), I have no soul. This does, however, assist me in dealing with some of my corporate clients.
Reynardine — Yes — I believe that many of the English, in particular, are still viscerally terrified of a bunch of freckled, red-headed, kilt-wearing Scots breaching Hadrian’s Wall and returning England to something less Norman and Saxon and much more Stone Henge in flavor!
on June 27th, 2012 at 10:35 am
some would say that having no soul is essential in representing corporate clients.
on June 27th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Tell you what, Coral Sea, it sounds like an improvement to me.
on June 28th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Since the previous president escalated the hate and discrimination against muslims, blaming 9/11 out of revenge on them, it was the begining of nazism in our country.911 was a fake flag just like Reichstag . an excuse to invade, one country after another . Say no to the previous president and to his father your in big trouble. Like hitler did in Germany starting the nazi power is now here. One section at a time as was done then and has started in Arizona, Alabana, Texas, California to name few until it will take over country wide and all will take office like Kreeps. Whom will we Heil to?
on June 28th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Marta, I thought it was too quiet.
Given that Dick Cheney said that what the American public needed to get it on board with the PNAC agenda was another Pearl Harbor, that was awfully convenient, but anything further would call for speculation on my part.
on June 30th, 2012 at 1:48 am
In response to Reynardine who said, on June 26th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
” Blomberg, “stupid” isn’t right, either, because it contemplates that the person is an organic oligophrenic who can’t learn better. These, however, are people whose assumed stupidity gives them cover for being willfully mean.”
No, I disagree there, because I believe ignorant would be better used towards those that are unable to learn better/further/more. Humans do have the capacity to learn, as long as there is that desire. Unfortunately, in this day and age, we are seeing that there is little of that desire on the right (especially among those identifying as TPers).
Also, I don’t thing being “willfully mean” is the same thing as stupid. There are plenty of smart people that are mean, as we often time see here at this very blog.
” “Pigheaded” and “bullheaded” give some idea of their intransigence, yet those are basically innocent animals who eat grass (and in the case of pigs, less esthetically pleasing matter). Phrases like “intransigent malice”, though accurate, are too elegant. We’ve got to come up with something else. Suggestions, anyone? ”
Pigheaded and bullheaded is often insulting to those animals, but I agree that there has to be a different word or phrase to be used to describe people acting/speaking stupidly, as opposed to calling them ignorant.
But, this is something that I see as being a widespread social issue, Reynardine, not just something here at the SPLC blog. Thus, it will be something that has to be recognized and then advocated on a broad front. However, such educational projects by the “commie liberal pinko elites” will not be accepted as necessary, right away, because most people in the media, have no problem with extending miscommunications, because they are just cut & paste types now, no longer serving as active and actual journalists (sorry, should of put a period in there some time ago)!
on June 30th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Mr. Blomberg, they are hammerheads.