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Shipwreck: Ten years after the death of its founder, the once-dominant National Alliance has become the joke of the neo-Nazi movement
Posted By Mark Potok On July 23, 2012 @ 8:03 am In Intelligence Report,Neo-Nazi | 26 Comments
Five years ago today, we kicked off the Hatewatch blog with a post marking the fifth anniversary [1] of the July 23, 2002, death of William Luther Pierce, the founder and leader of what for three decades was the most important hate group in America. Now, exactly 10 years after Pierce’s death, the neo-Nazi National Alliance is widely seen as a joke on the neo-Nazi scene and has lost most of its members, almost all of its income, and all of its once-substantial prestige. Here is an investigative story [2] on the Alliance that will also be published in the August issue of the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence Report [3].
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URL to article: http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/07/23/shipwreck-ten-years-after-the-death-of-its-founder-the-once-dominant-national-alliance-has-become-the-joke-of-the-neo-nazi-movement-2/
URLs in this post:
[1] post marking the fifth anniversary: http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/07/23/welcome-to-hatewatch/
[2] Here is an investigative story: http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/news/shipwreck-ten-years-after-the-death-of-its-founder-the-once-dominant-national-alli
[3] Intelligence Report: http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report
[4] : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y04mlXD8pyk&feature=plcp
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26 Comments To "Shipwreck: Ten years after the death of its founder, the once-dominant National Alliance has become the joke of the neo-Nazi movement"
#1 Comment By Reynardine On July 23, 2012 @ 8:43 am
After following your link, I was reminded of how, some six decades back, the psychoanalyst, Robert Lindner, wrote that the types drawn to fascist- type movements were men (mostly) who never got past the stage of being viciously tantrumy toddlers who never got past the stage of uniforms, toys, magic symbols, and having to have their own way all the time- or else. Having read that article and seen the illustrations, I can only say Dr. Lindner was right.
#2 Comment By Ruslan Amirkhanov On July 23, 2012 @ 12:22 pm
Beautiful peace. I thoroughly enjoyed watching the NA’s corpse decompose over the years. This again makes a very important point. If the “white race” is so great, and groups like the NA were supposed to represent its best and brightest, the “racially aware” vanguard, why were they always so full of perverts and freaks? And it seems the higher you go in these organizations, the more freaks you find.
#3 Comment By Aron On July 23, 2012 @ 1:59 pm
Happy anniversary, guys! You’re my favorite blog, and I see no chance of that changing.
As such, I would like to nominate you for a Lifetime Anvil Award for all of the wonderful things the SPLC does.
You guys are heroes.
#4 Comment By Mark Potok On July 23, 2012 @ 3:22 pm
Thank you, Reynardine, Ruslan and Aron — old friends all. I don’t agree with much that the former Erika Gliebe has to say, but I loved her now disappeared blog — “I Married a Freak.” That kind of captures the entire picture! In any case, thanks again for the kind comments. We appreciate you! Mark
#5 Comment By Reynardine On July 23, 2012 @ 3:28 pm
Thank you, Mark. I am honored. Many able youngsters are coming along, also. You inspire us all.
#6 Comment By Ruslan Amirkhanov On July 23, 2012 @ 5:41 pm
Thanks a lot Mark. Do you know if the contents of “I Married a Freak” were archived anywhere? I’m going to check Google Cache to find out. But first I need some popcorn.
#7 Comment By Watcher On July 24, 2012 @ 12:22 am
Thanks to the SPLC for another excellent article.
And if you think that what was mentioned about Sean Woodcock was weird, well you have not seen anything yet. Check out this video Woodcock made of his Nazi doll collection and posted to his YouTube account:
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Now in case Woodcock deletes this bizarre video before you can watch it, the video shows his Nazi dolls in full regalia, including the likes of Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler. A framed portrait of SS mass murderer Reinhard Heydrich is seen, along with a reproduction can of Zyklon B, a sickening souvenir of the Holocaust that these idiots claimed never happened.
Woodcock also shows us a framed (and personally signed) portrait of a stripper, and more of his Nazi collection, all set to hard rock music…. a psychiatrist would have a field day with this guy.
#8 Comment By Erika On July 24, 2012 @ 5:35 am
considering that most sane people regard the entire neo-nazi and white nationalist movements to be laughingstocks to be laughingstocks within the movement has to mark one as being among the most pathetic specimins of white people around.
i’ve always believed ever since i first heard about things like the ku klux klan and neo-nazis that the strongest argument against white supremacy is white supremacists themselves :)
#9 Comment By Aron On July 24, 2012 @ 9:07 am
Mark, thank you for all that you guys do. And it’s nice to know we mere commenters aren’t going unnoticed, either!
Also, I agree with Ruslan. I’d love to see the former Frau Gliebe’s take on her beloved Erich. Should be lots of fun.
#10 Comment By Reynardine On July 24, 2012 @ 9:15 am
Watcher’s account iis more evidence Dr. Lindner was right.
#11 Comment By Erika On July 24, 2012 @ 11:25 am
the neo-nazi’s ex-wife was named Erika?
Ugh! :(
#12 Comment By Mark Potok On July 24, 2012 @ 1:33 pm
Sorry, Erika. It’s a perfectly nice name despite that!
Ruslan and Aron, we do have a pdf of “I Married a Freak” somewhere, though it might take some time to find it. It’s highly amusing reading. I’ll try to get it linked to the story as soon as we track it down.
#13 Comment By Ruslan Amirkhanov On July 24, 2012 @ 2:15 pm
That’s wonderful to know. I assume the blog moderator can see our e-mail addresses? They have my permission to send a copy directly to me if possible. Brandy, a fine cigar, and dirt on Gliebe.
#14 Comment By Reynardine On July 24, 2012 @ 7:38 pm
Ruslan, I don’t think they can send you even tobacco seeds by Email, even though those are damn near subatomic in size.
#15 Comment By Reynardine On July 24, 2012 @ 7:45 pm
Yep, Watcher, that video is still there, dolls and all. ¿That guy made it himself? ¡Dr. Lindner was definitely right!
#16 Comment By Madeline On July 26, 2012 @ 1:09 pm
What happened to the one who wanted to become the next president? John Nugent? A psychopath.
He was or is one of the leader of the neo nazi-National Alliance.
Is he one more time in a psychiatric hospital?
#17 Comment By Ruslan Amirkhanov On July 26, 2012 @ 2:48 pm
John De Nugent was never a member of the NA. From what I heard he lost his house and pretty much all of his money. He was a pretty amusing character.
#18 Comment By Chuck On July 26, 2012 @ 5:49 pm
The NA’s in shambles? As Jerry Seinfeld would say, “Eh, that’s a shame”. :-D
#19 Comment By Madeline On July 27, 2012 @ 9:22 am
@ Ruslan
John de Nugent or Nugent (his real name) was a member of the NA.
He never owned a house or anything else. He complained he lost his house but what he lost is the appartment he was renting with his girlfriend, a neo nazi too. He never had any money neither!!!….
Nugent was a friend of Pierce and a friend of Duke. He also helped a neo nazi from Finland. This guy was arrested at Nugent’s appartment.
#20 Comment By Erika On July 27, 2012 @ 10:16 am
While I haven’t seem that video of his Nazi doll and Star Wars doll collection (and there is nothing wrong with a man having a doll collection in general), from the picture posted it seems that perhaps a more appropriate muscial accompaniment for the video of his doll collection would be Spke Jones’ “Der Fuhrer’s Face.”
#21 Comment By Erika On July 27, 2012 @ 10:18 am
Is John Nugent any relation to Ted Nugent by chance?
#22 Comment By Reynardine On July 27, 2012 @ 10:41 am
Nugent is not that rare a name- one of the Johnson daughters married a nugent.
Guys, that doll video is priceless!
#23 Comment By Reynardine On July 27, 2012 @ 11:14 am
Ruslan, you get your tobacco seeds yet?
#24 Comment By Wendell Witten On September 2, 2012 @ 9:54 am
I am the 46 year old, balding sex-offender Mr. Potok wrote of in his article regarding the National Alliance. I have never hated anyone but myself for flushing my life down the proverbial toilet. My attempt to join the National Alliance was born of a desire to be accepted by any group, even if that group went against everything I’ve ever been raised to believe in. I wrote Mr. Potok a letter apologizing for ending up on the wrong side of his meaningful profession. The two things I am most ashamed of in life are having sexually battered my wife in 1991, a woman I promised God to “Love and Protect” and the fact that I attempted to join a Racist organization. If anything, being disenfranchised as a pariah (pervert) by society as a sex-offender should have made me more sensitive to minorities, LGBT and any other human being who is disenfranchised in the USA through no fault of their own, unlike myself who committed a heinous crime. For whatever it’s worth, I will spend my remaining years trying to help those who have never benefited from White priviledge. I renounce all hateful statements I have ever made, or any activity I have participated in that attempts to further harm the truly disadvantaged in the United States of America. Thank you for helping me realize just how much I hated myself Mr. Potok. Thank you for the work you do; it may have saved my soul.
#25 Comment By Mark Potok On September 2, 2012 @ 3:11 pm
I appreciate Wendell Witten’s comment very much. As he says, Mr. Witten did write a letter to me that was moving and very similar to the comment above. It’s a rare thing that someone who gets involved in a group like the National Alliance has such an apparently complete, and totally earnest, turnaround. I wish you the best, Mr. Witten.
Mark Potok
#26 Comment By Wendell Witten On September 2, 2012 @ 6:14 pm
God bless you and those you champion Mr. Potok. Thank you so much for your kind words.
With All Due Respect,
Wendell Witten