What you are leaving out is the FBI snitch approached Weaver several times from 1986-1989 prodding him to sell him sawed off shotguns before he finally gave in; Weaver didn’t approach him – it was pure entrapment. Weaver was never a member of the Aryan nation by the way.

Next, the reason Weaver holed up is because the judge INCORRECTLY told him that if Weaver pleads innocent and loses, then he loses his house and property because he had used them to bond out of jail.

He only missed his court date because the improper date was given to him on his appearance notice.

Here’s a man who believes the government is out to get him so he and his family move to the mountains to get away from it all. What happens? The government substantiates his fears with entrapment and then a shady offer to drop the charges if he’ll snitch. He says no.

His son didn’t shoot the US Marshal, Kevin Williams “supposedly” did. I say supposedly because during the trial a bullet was found in the agent’s backpack leading many to believe he was killed by friendly fire.

The US Marshals at no point identified themselves as such that morning – Weaver, his son and Williams stumbled upon six men in full camoflauge with their faces completely covered and carrying automatic weapons. They enticed the dog down the path by throwing rocks and then they shot the dog.

Tell me what your reaction would be to this? Six armed men come onto your property and kill your dog…they then shoot the boy – IN THE BACK – as he runs to the house. The Marshals run to a neighbor and place a 911 call claiming their cohorts are PINNED DOWN by the Weavers when in fact, the Weavers ran back to the house and had only fired back after the dog was shot.

The FBI immediately sends in the HRT with it’s best snipers from DC. During the plane ride they draw up their own rules of engagement above and beyond the legal framework they work under. These rules include shooting any male on site outside of the house.

The next day, Weaver, his 16 yr old daughter Sara and Williams leave the house because they hear noises. Weaver said he thought finally someone had come to talk to him about the mess – the Marshals to this point have LIED to the FBI about killing the boy by the way -. When they see no one, Weaver approaches the shed where his sons dead body lays and his promptly shot in the shoulder by the sniper, Lon Horiuchi. As they run back to the house and scramble in the door, Horiuchi, an expert marksman, blows Vicki Weavers head off while she holds her 10 month old daughter.

The FBI tried covering it up claiming Weaver had been shooting at helicopters…

In the end, Weaver was found innocent of everything the FBI lied about him, Williams was found innocent (also leading many to believe the Marshal was killed by friendly fire, after all, who kills a Marshal and walks away?). They then sued the US Government and settled out of court for millions of dollars. One DOJ official, anonymously said that if the Weavers had pressed forward with the lawsuit they could have easily come away with $200 million.

You wonderful heavy handed government killed his family because they didn’t like the fact that he was a little weird in his beliefs and didn’t want to conform to society group think.

I should have known Reynardine was behind this, and you, of course, egging him on. You’re going to get the lot of us in trouble.

Keep working with that Nose Pickayune. You’ll get that rock candy out of there one day.

Ha ha ha!

Thank you very much for the Nose Picayune. As you can imagine, I’ve had a stick of rock candy stuck up my nose all weekend. How it got there is anyone’s guess, but it was certainly unpleasant.

I would like to bestow yet another award for Ruslan, that of the Twenty Foot Tall Stakhanovite-Mobile, for his exemplary Stalinist (I kid!) behavior.

Truly he is the greatest example of the New Soviet Man.

Marc de Rhodes gets his officer’s commision. He is now officially Major Astard.

La Americana gets a big packet of individually wrapped processed American cheese slices..

For want of time, I have left a basket of DARVO oral hygiene kits in the lobby for all claimants. You know: Fels Naptha toothpaste, Clorox mouthwash, and the patented DARVO toothbrush, a toilet brush downsized enough to fit inside racist potty mouths. Park Motok, besides these, has been awarded a big bottle of Clorox Shampoo and Body Wash, so for the first time in his life, he can feel really white. If he’s still not white enough, there’s a gift certifcate to Sherwin Williams.

As Ruslan is doubtless still working on that gross of hard-milled sugar cubes, I shan’t bestow more, but we acknowledge him our Iron Man.

Aadila, a big flashlight, for realizing there’s only one way to be sweet to trolls.

Aron, in case you are not quite agile with your trial-size hard-milled sugar cubes, I pass on to you my never-used Nose Pickayune, in the event of mistakes.

Erika, a diamond-and-platinum Sharkie. Happy birthday, Coral Sea. And a big welcome back to Kiwiwriter. May we see you some moa.

There are many more of the deserving out there, whom I can’t get round to yet. I must go back to rowing the galley.

With love,

Your humble galley slave,
Rey Mohammed

Lots of promise this week.

A big birthday cake with undersea designs applied in coral-tinted frosting to Coral Sea, of course. Presumably, the gentlemen heretofor mentioned are enjoying their hard-milled sugar cubes, or at least the practiced Ruslan is, and I trust Aron won’t get any of them up his nostrils before he learns the hang of it.

Some Basic Stiletto courses for Aadila so she can learn to properly ghetto-rip trolls with that rock candy dagger before the coming week rolls round.

More later. Proofing galleys.

In view of his meritorious service with the Ottoman Imperial Army, a gross of hardmilled sugar cubes to Ruslan, so he can drink his coffee or tea through them while he tames bears.

A dozen of the same to Aron, so he can see what a difference the right sugar cubes make to the endeavour.

To Aadila, a rock candy stiletto, in token of appreciation for her grasping that this is the only way you can be sweet to trolls.

Notice to Coral Sea that I have dampened the rather strange carrot color my hair weathered to, so, if she chooses, she can claim the now-vacant tiitle of The Red Scare.

Really? Not slavery? Not the genocide of Native Americans? Not segregation? Not the internment of the Japanese? Not COINTELPRO? Not the murder of Fred Hampton?

. “The murder of Mrs Weaver and child is a lasting message of how crooked and mislead the federal government is.”

You’re obviously confused. Weaver’s “child”(Sam I believe) shot an FBI agent. He got shot in return. Big surprise there. Vicky Weaver was concealed by a door she was holding open when she was shot through said door. The sniper was firing at Randy Weaver as per the rules of engagement.

” They created the situation set Randy Weaver up.”

Weaver made a conscious choice to modify those weapons, and then he could have either done what the feds wanted(rat on the Aryan Nations) or taken his charge in court(where he might have been able to get it dismissed or at least plead it down).

Sincerely,

Ruslan Amirkhanov
Ottoman Imperial Army Veteran
Choreographer
Superhero
Bear trainer
Generally awesome guy.

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You may think it is BS that he was arrested for selling illegally modified weapons(shotguns), but it is a law and he did violate it willingly. He could have showed up in court.

“Their is nothing in our Constitution that allows the government to kill people because they possess a firearm. ”

Nobody was killed for possessing a firearm. When he did not appear in court, the FBI exercised caution in approaching his land since they knew he had an apocalyptic worldview and was allegedly preparing for a war with the government.

“OK……..the guy had firearms that the government deemed illegal, who did he shoot with them before his wife and son were murdered???”

It doesn’t matter that he didn’t shoot anyone with the illegal arms. His son shot somebody(and FBI agent) and he was shot in return. Again, we wouldn’t be having this conversation if this whole thing had occurred in some ghetto.

” Possessing these arms was not a vilent crime, and in no way should the government have had a deadly response. Period.”

Randy Weaver declared war on the government. They gave it to him. He has nobody to blame but himself.

As to the question of whether Weaver was a white supremacist, I think it’s pretty clear that he was, or at least his wife was. They had attended Aryan Nations rallies before, and that was where the agent first made contact with him.

I will never trust the US Government for anything.

Sincerely,
Matthew Jerabek
US Army Veteran
Eagle Scout
Small Business owner
US Citizen

I would LOVE for you to provide evidence that a ‘flame thrower tank’ was used against the Branch Davidian compound. Everyone agrees that it was likely a smoke grenade or a ‘flash-bang’ that ignited the fire in Waco.

A similar event occurred in the 1980 Iranian Embassy Siege in London, when a flash-bang ignited some curtains during the storming of the compound. These things happen.

It doesn’t make the government murderers. No matter how much you wish that were the case.

Maybe Ruby Ridge and Waco were just practice for Iraq and Afghanistan?

No charges were filed against those who used a flame thrower tank against the compound; guess what, the start flames !

Nothing ‘commie’ about that, friend.