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	<title>Comments on: Anti-LGBT Zealots Target Fox and Bill O’Reilly</title>
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		<title>By: Stephen Albus</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/08/29/anti-lgbt-zealots-target-fox-and-bill-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-584457</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Albus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 21:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am just completely flabbergasted that LGBT issues remain such &quot;hot&quot; items for news organizations. When will Gay persons be allowed to be full fledged citizens. I must admit that I am at a loss to express myself. Why certain groups target the LGBT community goes right over my head. I just don&#039;t get it.

Gay persons are just like everyone else, but they are not afforded the same basic, fundemental rights that all Americans share. Perhaps I sound stupid, but at the risk of being redundant I honestly don&#039;t get it. If that makes me a thick headed moron...so be it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just completely flabbergasted that LGBT issues remain such &#8220;hot&#8221; items for news organizations. When will Gay persons be allowed to be full fledged citizens. I must admit that I am at a loss to express myself. Why certain groups target the LGBT community goes right over my head. I just don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>Gay persons are just like everyone else, but they are not afforded the same basic, fundemental rights that all Americans share. Perhaps I sound stupid, but at the risk of being redundant I honestly don&#8217;t get it. If that makes me a thick headed moron&#8230;so be it.</p>
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		<title>By: CriticalDragon1177</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/08/29/anti-lgbt-zealots-target-fox-and-bill-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-579243</link>
		<dc:creator>CriticalDragon1177</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 22:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zachary Conn,

These people are messed up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zachary Conn,</p>
<p>These people are messed up.</p>
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		<title>By: David T. Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/08/29/anti-lgbt-zealots-target-fox-and-bill-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-576864</link>
		<dc:creator>David T. Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 22:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I went to one of the red links to find out about the petition.  In it the author, who describes WP columnist Dana Milbank as a LIBERAL-- WOW!!! I am sure he would relish that description, he is a member of the Skull and Crossbones Club--who complained that LGBT groups liken the anti-gay orgs, like the FRC, to hate groups and they should desist immediately.  Does that sound like the liberal perspective?

 Of course these anti-gay orgs/groups are hate groups.  They appeal to those Americans who hate everything that isn&#039;t WASP and involved in a traditional marriage setting a k a The Nuclear Family, how about that for a Freudian slip?  But this TNF involves &quot;keepin&#039; the wife pregnant n&#039; happy&quot; with a psyche that is fit to rubber stamp the thoughts and politics of her better half and be done with it.

What is really going on here is that some Americans are uncomfortable with the New Paradigm.  There is rapidly coming a time when Caucasians will no longer outnumber the Other in many states in the US.  Rather than accept this mathematical fact of life they are, in true American fashion, holding on to a fantasy that fulfills their version of the American Dream and they are willing to support any other org that is espousing and aggressively fighting against this NP.  It does not matter what method they employ and, we might even be able to ethnically cleanse some old shibboleths along the way--feminazis, environMENTALists, fags, lezzies, hippie-trash, anti-Americans, Commies, cowards, anti-bizzies, free-speechers, non-gunowners, anti-war punks, pro-druggies, pro-abortionists, liberal scum, niggerlovers, Jewboys, Demmocrats.  This is by no means a complete list but it will serve as a starting point for the template.

THIS is the war that they have been hoping for.  This will restore White America to its proper place in America then the World.  

This is a fantasy but a very deep-rooted and powerful one that is enjoying a renaissance as proven by the articles in the SPLC newsletters.  Every possible pathology is being marshaled in nice American niches that have only been waiting to return to the &quot;good ol&#039; days&quot; of lychins&#039; and burnins&#039;.  They are by no means confined to the Deep South states.  EVERY one of our 50 states has pockets of this resentment and hate.  Lose a job, have a Muslim move into the neighborhood and buy a business and fire can be started.

With the likes of Tush Limpballs and FOX being given endless reportage by the so-called liberal or alternative press this fire just keep getting hotter.  We are in for rough times and it&#039;s not far away.  However, maybe we have to go through this maturation process to emerge as the America that we profess and imagine ourselves to be.
 
DTG]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to one of the red links to find out about the petition.  In it the author, who describes WP columnist Dana Milbank as a LIBERAL&#8211; WOW!!! I am sure he would relish that description, he is a member of the Skull and Crossbones Club&#8211;who complained that LGBT groups liken the anti-gay orgs, like the FRC, to hate groups and they should desist immediately.  Does that sound like the liberal perspective?</p>
<p> Of course these anti-gay orgs/groups are hate groups.  They appeal to those Americans who hate everything that isn&#8217;t WASP and involved in a traditional marriage setting a k a The Nuclear Family, how about that for a Freudian slip?  But this TNF involves &#8220;keepin&#8217; the wife pregnant n&#8217; happy&#8221; with a psyche that is fit to rubber stamp the thoughts and politics of her better half and be done with it.</p>
<p>What is really going on here is that some Americans are uncomfortable with the New Paradigm.  There is rapidly coming a time when Caucasians will no longer outnumber the Other in many states in the US.  Rather than accept this mathematical fact of life they are, in true American fashion, holding on to a fantasy that fulfills their version of the American Dream and they are willing to support any other org that is espousing and aggressively fighting against this NP.  It does not matter what method they employ and, we might even be able to ethnically cleanse some old shibboleths along the way&#8211;feminazis, environMENTALists, fags, lezzies, hippie-trash, anti-Americans, Commies, cowards, anti-bizzies, free-speechers, non-gunowners, anti-war punks, pro-druggies, pro-abortionists, liberal scum, niggerlovers, Jewboys, Demmocrats.  This is by no means a complete list but it will serve as a starting point for the template.</p>
<p>THIS is the war that they have been hoping for.  This will restore White America to its proper place in America then the World.  </p>
<p>This is a fantasy but a very deep-rooted and powerful one that is enjoying a renaissance as proven by the articles in the SPLC newsletters.  Every possible pathology is being marshaled in nice American niches that have only been waiting to return to the &#8220;good ol&#8217; days&#8221; of lychins&#8217; and burnins&#8217;.  They are by no means confined to the Deep South states.  EVERY one of our 50 states has pockets of this resentment and hate.  Lose a job, have a Muslim move into the neighborhood and buy a business and fire can be started.</p>
<p>With the likes of Tush Limpballs and FOX being given endless reportage by the so-called liberal or alternative press this fire just keep getting hotter.  We are in for rough times and it&#8217;s not far away.  However, maybe we have to go through this maturation process to emerge as the America that we profess and imagine ourselves to be.</p>
<p>DTG</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Greenblatt</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/08/29/anti-lgbt-zealots-target-fox-and-bill-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-573959</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Greenblatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 00:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a troubling habit to label someone that disagrees with certain ideologies a &quot;hater&quot;. It is even more troubling when someone makes a resonable, nuanced, respectful statement, and is treated in a harsh manner, just because his opinion is not shared by others. The SPLC should be careful not to make themselves look like the bad guy, lest the public turn against us. The situation with the FRC is one that could very easily get out of hand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a troubling habit to label someone that disagrees with certain ideologies a &#8220;hater&#8221;. It is even more troubling when someone makes a resonable, nuanced, respectful statement, and is treated in a harsh manner, just because his opinion is not shared by others. The SPLC should be careful not to make themselves look like the bad guy, lest the public turn against us. The situation with the FRC is one that could very easily get out of hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiwiwriter</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/08/29/anti-lgbt-zealots-target-fox-and-bill-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-571676</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiwiwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 01:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anti-gay activists have targeted Fox News for being &quot;pro-gay.&quot;

If it wasn&#039;t so crazy, it would just get funnier and funnier.

And the idea that the gays were behind the Holocaust is even more ludicrous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anti-gay activists have targeted Fox News for being &#8220;pro-gay.&#8221;</p>
<p>If it wasn&#8217;t so crazy, it would just get funnier and funnier.</p>
<p>And the idea that the gays were behind the Holocaust is even more ludicrous.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger B.</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/08/29/anti-lgbt-zealots-target-fox-and-bill-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-571538</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 23:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Ian for the great segments on the insanity of it all.  They are hilarious.  Almost as hilarious as the reality of the beliefs and actions of the crazy right wing zealots that actually believe crap like that.  It would be even funnier if it wasn&#039;t so close to the truth about these hateful people and the dangers they present.  It is always fascinating to watch people&#039;s reactions that teach bigotry and hatred of any kind when thier lies and wharped beliefs are put into the light.  They scramble like rats when you turn on the light and they don&#039;t want to be seen or exposed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ian for the great segments on the insanity of it all.  They are hilarious.  Almost as hilarious as the reality of the beliefs and actions of the crazy right wing zealots that actually believe crap like that.  It would be even funnier if it wasn&#8217;t so close to the truth about these hateful people and the dangers they present.  It is always fascinating to watch people&#8217;s reactions that teach bigotry and hatred of any kind when thier lies and wharped beliefs are put into the light.  They scramble like rats when you turn on the light and they don&#8217;t want to be seen or exposed.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/08/29/anti-lgbt-zealots-target-fox-and-bill-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-571171</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Click on the word &quot;petition&quot; in paragraph 6 of the article and check out the petition to Fox.  You&#039;ll be directed to a letter by Gordon Klingenschmitt, a former Navy chaplain who claims to have performed &quot;exorcisms&quot; of lesbians and gay men to rid them of homosexuality.  He claims Wayne Besen &quot;humiliated himself&quot; in a debate with Klingenschmitt. (The video of the debate is linked within the letter)  Besen was reasonable and restrained under the circumstances, while Klingenschmitt comes across just as he is -- a zealot on the fringe of Christianity whose beliefs are nothing short of bizarre.  He is also a liar who cites discredited research and makes patently false statements to &quot;prove&quot; his points.  For example, Dr. Robert Spitzer -- whose research has been used for years to justify so-called restorative therapy, has stated that his research was flawed and has issued a public apology.  Dr. Spitzer wrote, &quot;I believe I owe the gay community an apology for my study making unproven claims of the efficacy of reparative therapy. I also apologize to any gay person who wasted time and energy undergoing some form of reparative therapy because they believed that I had proven that reparative therapy works with some &#039;highly motivated&#039; individuals.&quot;  Klingenschmitt also claims that children of lesbians and gays being more likely to be on welfare.  Actually, studies have shown just the opposite.  It&#039;s truly frightening that anyone could find that man credible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Click on the word &#8220;petition&#8221; in paragraph 6 of the article and check out the petition to Fox.  You&#8217;ll be directed to a letter by Gordon Klingenschmitt, a former Navy chaplain who claims to have performed &#8220;exorcisms&#8221; of lesbians and gay men to rid them of homosexuality.  He claims Wayne Besen &#8220;humiliated himself&#8221; in a debate with Klingenschmitt. (The video of the debate is linked within the letter)  Besen was reasonable and restrained under the circumstances, while Klingenschmitt comes across just as he is &#8212; a zealot on the fringe of Christianity whose beliefs are nothing short of bizarre.  He is also a liar who cites discredited research and makes patently false statements to &#8220;prove&#8221; his points.  For example, Dr. Robert Spitzer &#8212; whose research has been used for years to justify so-called restorative therapy, has stated that his research was flawed and has issued a public apology.  Dr. Spitzer wrote, &#8220;I believe I owe the gay community an apology for my study making unproven claims of the efficacy of reparative therapy. I also apologize to any gay person who wasted time and energy undergoing some form of reparative therapy because they believed that I had proven that reparative therapy works with some &#8216;highly motivated&#8217; individuals.&#8221;  Klingenschmitt also claims that children of lesbians and gays being more likely to be on welfare.  Actually, studies have shown just the opposite.  It&#8217;s truly frightening that anyone could find that man credible.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/08/29/anti-lgbt-zealots-target-fox-and-bill-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-569445</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 00:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Faux News is LGBT friendly? Wow, that is going to come as a surprise to a lot of people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faux News is LGBT friendly? Wow, that is going to come as a surprise to a lot of people.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/08/29/anti-lgbt-zealots-target-fox-and-bill-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-569422</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 23:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A post about Besen gives me a chance to post my favorite &quot;Daily Show&quot; report of all time, which featured him. The episode&#039;s language is not safe for work.

Part 1:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-march-19-2007/diagnosis--mystery-pt--1

Part 2

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-march-19-2007/diagnosis--mystery-pt--2

The later half features Richard Cohen, the one-time president of Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays (PFOX). After Cohen&#039;s minor mental breakdown from 1:27 to 2:26, PFOX disassociated itself from him.

Even crazy has limits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A post about Besen gives me a chance to post my favorite &#8220;Daily Show&#8221; report of all time, which featured him. The episode&#8217;s language is not safe for work.</p>
<p>Part 1:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-march-19-2007/diagnosis--mystery-pt--1" rel="nofollow">http://www.thedailyshow.com/wa.....pt&#8211;1</a></p>
<p>Part 2</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-march-19-2007/diagnosis--mystery-pt--2" rel="nofollow">http://www.thedailyshow.com/wa.....pt&#8211;2</a></p>
<p>The later half features Richard Cohen, the one-time president of Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays (PFOX). After Cohen&#8217;s minor mental breakdown from 1:27 to 2:26, PFOX disassociated itself from him.</p>
<p>Even crazy has limits.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/08/29/anti-lgbt-zealots-target-fox-and-bill-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-569296</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would have thought that the anti-gay wackos would have objected to the icky drooling that Hannity was doing over Paul Ryan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have thought that the anti-gay wackos would have objected to the icky drooling that Hannity was doing over Paul Ryan</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Zabetakis</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/08/29/anti-lgbt-zealots-target-fox-and-bill-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-568802</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Zabetakis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keep the focus on the FRC. Offer FOX a spokesperson to explain on-air and in detail why the FRC is listed as a hate group. (I assume that the SPLC does this as a matter of course.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep the focus on the FRC. Offer FOX a spokesperson to explain on-air and in detail why the FRC is listed as a hate group. (I assume that the SPLC does this as a matter of course.)</p>
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