Listen, gatos: I remember the Camelot era, the Space Age. I remember thinking it was human destiny to emerge from ignorance, prejudice, and superstition. I remember thinking that if we avoided blowing ourselves up, we were headed for a better, more just, more enlightened world. What a laugh.

I honestly believe that Alex Jones would be terribly entertaining, if not for the fact that so many millions of people take him seriously.

And then insult those of us who do not. Because we are ‘sheep.’

Do they not realize that they themselves are being led like a flock of sheep? Ugh. Makes me sick just thinking about it.

I have to say that the regular disruption of Republican conventions by hurricanes since Katrina does pose a challenge to my personal atheism…

You’ve got to love these guys. They’re not even trying anymore; ANY conspiracy will do. God, weather machines, chemtrails, the UN, Lucky Charms, the Hamburglar, ANYTHING but normal weather cycles!!!

Wow! For an omnipotent being God has really bad aim. Obama is in Washington, the storm is hitting New Orleans.

Democrats have been driving gas guzzlers for decades as part of a conspiracy to submerge Florida just in time for the 2012 election.

Mitch: bite your tongue.

So these people don’t think a tropical storm/hurricane might be hitting because it’s hurricane season?? I’d love to smack every one of ‘em upside the head if it would knock some sense into them.

Count on the loony right to come up with the most convoluted explanations ever.

Ditto that, Dan.

Such a grand sense of humor cannot be anything but godlike, and as such it poses a spiritual crisis for a godless heathen like me.

It appears that last night, as an unidentified black CNN camerawoman filmed the Republican Convention, two of the attendees came up, started pelting her with nuts, and said, “This is how we feed the aniimals”. The RNC ejected them and more or less indicated these were hooligans from the street. Only they don’t let people just walk in from the street…

I’m surprised the “hurricanes-as-Biblical-retribution” and the “chemtrails-influencing/causing-hurricanes” crowds haven’t joined forces by fusing their conspiracy theories. At first glance, they might appear at odds with each other, but think about it. What if God, wroth over America’s middle-east policies, sends a hurricane, and the government (which is after all headed, according to some circles, by the anti-Christ), in a bid to influence the trajectory of said hurricane and undermine God, deploys its secret chemtrails/chembombs technology. An entirely plausible scenario. In fact, it would be weird if it happened any other way.

It fills me with some degree of hope for the future that the Republicans are starting to realize that their policies are making God upset. Of course, they being Republicans will attribute it to not being anti-poor, anti gay, anti-woman, anti-immigrant, and racist enough – when most rational observers would conclude that those very policies are what has God so upset at them. But any long journey depends upon a first step being taken.

And Mitch, as someone who lives near the coast of a different Republican filled coastal state, I do not like your plan at all.

Do they not think that an evil gubmint capable of manipulating the weather would not also be powerful enough to silence them? Unless, of course, Alex Jones is on the payroll as a Minister of Disinformation. Yeah, that must be it. Just as logical as their fevered rants.

As for Limbaugh, every time I think he has plumbed the depths of stupidity, he just keeps digging.

Gregory they do not think.

Simple enough: August 27th was LBJs 104th birthday.

According to World Nut Daily, God sent the storm to punish the Democrats? So why did the storm disrupt the Republican convention? Shouldn’t they be getting fair weather and rainbows?

You expect rational from these people? They think cavemen rode dinosaurs.

Not rainbows, Chris. Those are too new-agey and queerish for them.

Going back to Reynardine’s initial post, it is utterly amazing (in a bad, bad way), the way the Right and the Religious Right (although the overlap is so great now, it is almost redundant to mention both) have gone backward from reason, science, and even basic humanity. What a lot of people don’t realize (although I believe that most of the commenters here do), is that knowledge and technology CAN be lost. For many centuries, the skills of mapmaking were lost in western Europe because the early church decreed that only things from the Bible were to be taught or used. Ironically, considering the Taliban (Islam’s own Religious Right), Islamic scholars had retained the science of mapmaking and navigation and the west was able to re-learn it from them.

What these crazies are doing to our schools, the way they readily manipulate history and science (or mock science with all of their creationist crap), could well send a significant portion of our upcoming population back into an even more ignorant abyss (ignorant — not stupid, mind you) than the ignorance already afoot.

I saw some coverage of Paul Ryan’s apparently error-filled speech last night, in which the errors were being pointed out, and some Republican campaign manager stated that “we aren’t letting fact-checking constrain our campaign” or words to that affect. I think that says it all.

As for why another plausible explanation for Isaac — the hurricane wasn’t fed so much by hot air from the waters of the Gulf as by the hot air gushing out of the likes of Rush Limbaugh’s and other’s mouths — and from their opposite ends, as well.

I would like to be able to talk face to face with the people who claim to be Christians whether it be Franklin Graham, Pat Robertson or whoever, who say that hurricanes, earthquakes, or any other such natural occurrences are a punishment or wake-up call from God, because Jesus made it plain in His parable of “the wheat and the tares”
(Matthew 13: 24-30) that God won’t do anything like that, not until the end of the world. And in verses 36 -43, He explains it in detail, including why God won’t do anything like that. So either they don’t know enough about the teachings of Jesus, the one they claim to follow, or else they are deliberately lying so they can use God for their own selfish purposes and to mistreat people they don’t like. There’s no way that highly educated people like the ones mentioned above could not know what Jesus said about that.

The following link is to a form to be filled out by those participating in “weather modification programs” as it states at the bottom. Notice the .gov link. In this document to be filled out, among other things are, places open to detail the chemical(s) to be used and quantities.

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Michael B can you produce the forms filled out by the Republican party regarding the diversion of Isaac away from Tampa?

And here is a link to the HAARP program that has been modifying global weather for decades.

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I wouldn’t haarp on that too much.

“And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the Lord. And, behold, the Lord passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the Lord; but the Lord was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the Lord was not in the earthquake: And after the earthquake a fire; but the Lord was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.” (1 Kings 19: 11-12)

I’m sure that Michael is being sarcastic, but cloud seeding for rain, which requires the completion of that form, is notoriously unreliable. But maybe the Republicans will take credit for incurring meteorological wrath if it breaks the drought…

YES. They are doing this!!!

I used to think that Lyndon LaRouche, with his idea that the Royal Family were drug pushers, was the king of nutters.

Then I read this stuff about the government making hurricanes happen, and all I can think of is lines from the “Odd Couple:”

Felix Unger: “Why did you give Oscar spicy food?”

Murray the Cop: “Felix, Oscar’s sick. He’s my friend. And I’m a Policeman!”

Felix Unger: “Murray, I don’t have the time to unravel your logic!”

With global warming we’ll be seeing a lot more of these extreme storms and the denialists have no choice but to blame it on the government conspiracy “HARP program” and the UN new world order and the illuminati and the annunaki reptilians. Accepting the science would have been a whole lot easier.

I just love this. One minute you are hearing from the talking head Talibangelicals and tin-foil mad hatters that Obama is the dumbest and most incompetent bimbo to ever stand in the Oval Office let alone sit in the big chair, BUT he’s more smart enough to devise and double top secretly fund weather control programs.

Krissy, no. The annunaki were highly intelligent dogs from the Sirius system. The Merovingians were reptlian. At least, according to them. Actually, the Merovingians were big, lumping Frankish chieftains and then kings. I surely have some Frankish ancestry, and maybe even some Merovingian, but I’m not lizardy at all. (Guys, how do you expect me to enjoy my coffee when you keep hogging the junebug jam?)

Sierra, it’s the same kind of thing Nazis said about Jews. Meanwhile, folks, it’s Friday. Suggestions?

I can not believe that this Hurricane was caused by a human conspiracy, nor can I believe it came from God, who not only is Love but also too pure to behold evil, as the Bible says. I truly believe that all these storms that is ravishing this country and the world is caused by our thoughts. Let’s face facts, there is more hate now than ever before, more corruption than ever before, more love of money than respect for life than ever before, more hypocracy than ever before. I have always believed that wrong thoughts cause destruction and right thoughts cause construction. Stop blaming God for all bad happenings.

I wish every one would stop blaming God for natural disasters such as this Hurricane happening just at the time of the Republican Convention. Also stop thinking on conspiracies by the Democrates. Ridiculous. Did not any one think that the terrible storms that are happening might be a reflection of wrong thinking that is going on in this country but also in the world. God is not only Love but he is too pure to behold evil, as the Bible tells us.

Uh, Toby, I expect they’re caused more by our dirty and destructive treatment of the planetary ecosystem.

Krissy, you have to look at things through the Republican mind where no is no past and no future and present is whatever Fox News and Rush Limbaugh say it is. Because there is no past or no future, there is no need to be internally or externally consistent.

I am not sure if people are aware that our ecosystem has been damaged to the point by human civilization that the survival of our species is at stake.

It is not just a question of shrinking coastlines or acidifcation of the oceans due to CO2 destroying reefs which then affect the entire food chain. We are talking about every last human being no longer being able to survive on this planet unless we act now. Our temperatures are hotter now than just about any point in the earth’s history, and within a few degrees of the hottest — when there were no ice caps.

As the ice caps melt, which is happening now, the ability to reflect solar energy diminishes and the earth absorbs more and more thermal energy, meaning the cycle may be irreversible.

It may already be too late. I’d say it’s time to emit a mayday on Earth’s solo journey around the sun. It was nice while it lasted.

By being with the top USA prophet,evangelist, missonary
and healing ministry for 35 years, it’s funny how you all try to link this to God. However, your right but David Terrell pronounced that New Orleans would be hit before they fully recovered from Katrina. He called that last 8,6 Indonesia quake in March 3 days before it happened. You want to see judgment, recall Andrew where they shut his tent down in FL. He had said Haitti rejected him and they just got brushed for a reminder but at least 3 tropical storms and 2 earthquakes for Hatii. Mt. St Helen, tornadoes – goes on & on. Say about 50 prophecies a year for 50 years? Guess you have’t been exposed to this kind of ministry. No – its’ his preaching of Jesus – accept or reject – it’s all your fate. However, look at my web site for the Nuclear Attack on the US with all the details and how to escape and the last revival. This is all no BULL.

Switch to decaf, Bud.

Reynardine — Being descended from the Carolingians (family tracks back quite legitimately to Charlemagne), we aren’t reptile people, are we? Some members of my family, ehhhh, hard to say. I just always assumed the occasional eczema I get on my hands was, well, from dry air. Hopefully that is the case. (This is a joke — don’t give me a looney award, although this week I don’t think I managed to explain anything well this week, so I don’t think I’m in line for any awards, either good or bad).

Bungalow Bud — as a rational person I will tell you that you and your prophet are full of it (and by “it,” I mean with an “sh” in front of it). And anyone who goes around touting a “ministry” that, if rebuffed, is “punished,” is deluded, narcissistic, and nasty. Have a nice day.

Honestly, if the religious loonies — some of whom have weighed in here — manage to take control of this country, it will be a toss up as to whether the “dark ages” from our new religious overlords” or the excelerating climate change from their policies, will pose the greatest peril to the planet.

Bungalow Bud: What are you smoking? It can’t possibly legal, so I urge law enforcement to find this guy… And if anyone’s doing the Sputnik awards: Here’s a nominee.

Bud,

Presumably, you’re referring to David H. Terrell, a/k/a Daniel H. Ford, the adulterous tent-revival preacher who was convicted of tax fraud in the early 1980s. Unfortunately, we have indeed been “exposed to this kind of ministry.”

Bud,

When the apocolypse comes, can you make sure Fred Phelps and the WBC goes with it?

Thanks

Okay, Bungalow Bob…try and make your point in a clear manner, using the English language properly.

Then we’ll tear it to shreds.

Bud,

I want to thank you for reminding me about “Brother” David Terrell, a perfect example of a self-styled Christian whose every act contradicts the principles of the religion he claims to believe in.

Terrell has been “evangelizing” since the 1950s. For many years, he was cohabiting adulterously with a woman whose daughter, Donna M. Johnson, later wrote a book (Holy Ghost Girl) describing her experiences with the cult he led.

By the mid-70s, Terrell was bringing in hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in tax-exempt “gifts” from his flock and converting that money into personal income, which he used to buy such worldly things as a guitar-shaped swimming pool for his personal estate. However, unlike church contributions, personal income is taxable. To evade paying taxes on this income, Terrell legally changed his name to Daniel H. Ford and parked a large portion of his income under that name while continuing to represent himself to the IRS under his original name. The IRS eventually caught on and prosecuted him for tax evasion, accusing him of hiding almost a half-million dollars in income. He was convicted and sentenced to five years in prison on each of four counts, to be served concurrently. Terrell appealed all the way to the Supreme Court, unsuccessfully.

Terrell’s current scam, as Brother Bud suggests, is his “prophecy” that a nuclear holocaust is coming, and only one place in America will be safe from the wrath to come: a piece of land (reportedly in Texas) that Terrell (and/or his church, the Gainesville, Ga.-based Jesus New Covenant Church) just happens to own but would be happy to let you buy a piece of, if you want to avoid being incinerated. Naturally, to lend authority to this prediction, he has invented a spurious track record of accurately predicting every major disaster since the destruction of Atlantis (okay, that’s a slight exaggeration), which “Bud” has shared with us here.

Two takeaway thoughts:

• If the IRS weren’t being shackled by the supporters of the religious right, there would be a lot of prosecutions of high-profile televangelists who are obviously converting church income into personal income to support their lavish lifestyles today.

• As the passage I pasted here earlier from 1 Kings suggests, real power isn’t in the wind, the earthquake, the fire, it’s in what abides or endures in stillness and near-silence. A focus on upheaval or conflict, or potential nuclear holocaust, is the strategy of those who seek power to exploit or control others.

@Bungalow Bud: He predicted that earthquakes and tropical storms would hit a country that is extremely prone to earthquakes and tropical storms? It’s a miracle!

Well that I got all your attention, that tax fraud case – they wanted him out of the country tried him as a prophet as the judge said. He was tricked by especially women who gave him cars, etc, after being so poor – they mounted up and didn’t claim them as income and probably didn’t have time to sell them off as on the mission field. So he did lose that battle to Satan. However in prison, the FBI saved his laif from an attempted murder and he got a HS GED.
So Adam Hill, prone to earthquakes isn’t very precise. To call magnitude, location and short time range consistently, is extreme high accuracy. Do a student’s -T test. Use more reason – like probability & statistics and even a little reason. You can all pretend to dismiss it all because you can’t face the truth but this is to help you understand.
If Terrell isn’t the # 1 prophet today, who is??? Please let me know. The 50 year track record is unmatched – some try to be prophets but they fail so bad. He named all the TV minister’s God will bring down and the’re gone as you know.

He never said – “one place is safe.” he said outside the cities. You see by my plots, there are many. God doesn’t want all of you to perish. Some bad english, you have to waste valuable time to discredit? If you know there are some bad diction, then you have to know the correct so
why haggle? You know then what I mean so absorb the truth and ignore the faults? Looks like you have a reading
problem or short memory – It’s Bud not Bob.

Coral Sea, come on land lad – you have been swimming in a false world for how long? You have a lot to catch up on in the real world – hope you have time? It’s not nasty, only if you hope to live in the US for many years. Jesus will come back and rule 1000. You will appreciate the new boss after he kicks the AntiChrist into the pit. You will love the difference.

Supersonic – no smoke – I hate it. You think I’m high? Possibly but legally. Stay tuned?

Recall, before his battle with the IRS, he had those visions in the 60′s. Even he were to go sour, how can you erase the God given gifts before he went sour? Also, he has evangelized India so much that they are now too blessed.

Well, BungalowBud didn’t have to make his point in a clear and coherent manner…

CM tore it to shreds anyway!

And Bungalow Bud, how much of your family’s needs and inheritance haveyou thrown away to support the Rev’s guitar-shaped swimming pool?

The existence of nuts trying to tell God who to punish and why does not necessarily mean that God is not up there laughing at them.

Never mind decaf, Bud. Switch to thorazine.

Kiwi – you polish shoes with your wax? Do mine?? Somebody probably built that pool as a gift. Most ministers get sucked into luxeries after being so poor – like Terrell. However, he shook it off well. Check and see if his swimming pool isn’t used to water the cattle that were also given him. He hardly has to to use it for swimming. However, I suggest that he could invite the whole neighborhood over for a great baptism service – that most churches fail to understand. Even the Baptist don’t know how to baptize.

Sam Molly – see how the prince of this world (Satan) has reversed most all that were taught to you? Let’s use Sam M. as a perfect example now. After reading his last statement, God isn’t laughing if he pronounces judgment.
Trying to tell God who to punish? That may happen but rarely. A prophet speaks what God tells him and it’s God who backs up his own with signs wonders miracles and judgment. The prophet speaks, God backs it up as he did Jesus. Once you all understand this, you can link most history to this one statement. This is so serious. It happen in Germany – Hitler, Cuba, Argentina, Africa, Hatii
just to name a few, Now the USA – under curses instead of blessings but we get one more chance for a great revival – then those ignore, ridicule, you help bring on the Nuclear War. Also, my 2nd favorite minister – R.G. Hardy from Baltinore,MD about 25 years ago handed out a pamphlet – Americas Sign Sin – Homesexuality – that will also infringe on our rights in the USA bringing about another reason to be nuked. On my site, you will see other ministers that saw this + George Washington. Read my news links about Russia & China. You can dream on in our false world but maybe more quakes will shake you up & save your souls. It’s our minds that have been brainwashed. If you only know the battle in heaven & earth to own God’s last & greatest creation, you would adhere dear.

Well! I guess Bungalow Bob told us what is what!

Bob — you are delusional and ridiculously silly. Also, FYI, I happen to be a woman, not a “lad.”

Never mind Mellaril. Try Dieffenbachia.

Hey, Bungalow Bob/Buddy McCloskey:

Who is the #1 prophet today? There aren’t any. Nobody knows when Christ is supposed to return. That’s in your beloved New Testament.

And why would a preacher facing the end of the world need a guitar-shaped swimming pool? Bought by a supporter as a gift? I wasn’t born last night, pally.

And he’s using the pool to water his herd of cattle that was given to him?

He got a high school GED while in prison? I’m so impressed. Sounds like he’s just slightly better educated than you are.

And if God told him how the whole future of the world is going to be laid out, how come God didn’t tell him, “Stay away from that girl and that adulterous relationship, and while you’re at it, don’t forget to report those gifts as personal income, so the IRS doesn’t throw you in the federal diaper pail.” How odd of God.

Please do go on…the only people dumber than you to invade this board are the neo-Nazis. You’re giving me some of the best laughs I’ve had in weeks.

Take a good look over my shoulder and you’ll see a trail of history, going back to ancient times, of prophets who announced the end of the world, and got caught short. My favorites were the guys who predicted Y2K as a great disaster. They got to see their books go from $35 at Barnes and Noble to 50 cents at the church yard sale, in a matter of days.

By the way, BungalowBuddy…if this guy is so good at prophecy, how about telling me some important stuff…like who’s going to win the World Series, which stocks will rise, whether or not Jennifer Aniston will have a baby, and when the next traffic accidents will happen, so we can post an ambulance at that corner to take away the casualties? We need the important stuff from these prophets. They’re always proclaiming the “end times,” and they never show up.

@ Bunghole Bud;

What is the Prophet’s next specific prophesy, to include date, location and event? Surely he must have a few laying around that would establish his veracity, because a spokesman like yourself is certainly not advancing his cause.

I second Gregory’s request. BB, prophesies claimed to be fulfilled after the prophesied events have already occurred are not, in terms of validity, successful prophesies, but instead lies or delusions. Post a prophesy here before the event occurs, along with a reasonable time frame. If the prophesy comes true, and is not something that is easily predicted by common sense, you might actually be worth listening to. Otherwise…

Incidentally, a t test wouldn’t be appropriate for assessing the accuracy of your boy’s prophesies, because a t test tests the probability that there is zero difference between two populations (or data clusters), which really has nothing to do with the claims you are making. Depending on the variables, you would most likely use a form of regression (or perhaps simple correlation), to assess the degree of relationship between what actually occurs and what is predicted to occur. It is critical, however, that the data is genuine.

Bungalow Bud. I don’t think you’re high. I think you’re in SERIOUS and immediate need of psychiatric help or possibly horribly brain damaged. I urge you to seek medical assistance immediately, because delusions and hallucinations like the ones you’re obviously suffering can be incredibly dangerous.

Well, I had to see it for myself, so I took a look at Bungalow Bob/Buddy McCloskey’s web page, and aside from an array of Bible quotes, its main point is to repeat “George Washington’s Vision,” so I checked that out with some reliable sources, as follows:

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Incidentally, among the signs and wonders and prophecies that Mr. McCloskey points to is the death of Yankee catcher Thurman Munson in a plane crash in August 1979. As a long-time (three-generation) Yankee fan, I agree that was a terrible tragedy and a disaster from which the Yankees took a long time to recover. Mr. Bud tells us that Thurman Munson warned that “New York is a catcher’s mitt for nuclear war” three weeks before he died, but that statement was covered up by the media. However….

Thurman Munson, Biblical Prophet? Riiiiight. The closest he came to prophecy was one time in 1977, when the Yankees were trailing the Red Sox, 1-0, and Thurm told Reggie Jackson that he would get a single, and said, “Pick me up, Jack.” Munson singled, and Jackson hit a walk-off home run to trounce Reggie Cleveland and the Red Sox. The work of God? I thought the Yankees were the “Evil Empire!”

Anyway, back to our favorite new whipping boy and idiot:

What happened was this: “George Washington’s Vision” was created by journalist and novelist Charles W. Alexander, who wrote fiction under the pen-name Wesley Bradshaw. That way Alexander could write glowing reviews of Bradshaw’s works. Nice work if you can get it.

Under the “Bradshaw” name, Alexander wrote a bunch of “vision” and “dream pieces, designed to raise spirits and morale in the Union. “Washington’s Vision” was written and first published in 1861, and claimed to be the memory of a 99-year-old Valley Forge veteran named Anthony Sherman, who overheard Washington tell this tale to a fellow officer.

Of course, it’s pretty impressive that at age 99, Sherman could roll out this tale, chapter and verse. It’s even more impressive, considering that Sherman was not at Valley Forge at the time.

At any rate, the entire piece was fiction, designed to buck up support for the Union at the time of the Civil War, hence the references to “Union” throughout the work.

Having scored a hit with this fast fiction, Alexander/Bradshaw continued to pump out inspirational essays. He wrote similar essays in which contemporary political and military figures had inspirational dreams: President Lincoln, Jefferson Davis, Ulysses S. Grant, and my favorite, George B. McClellan.

In McClellan’s dream, the Young Napoleon is asleep at his desk, (from a hard day of making excuses for not attacking, no doubt) when the ghost of Washington shows up to admonish Little Mac for dozing on the job. Washington then presents McClellan with the Confederate secret plans, so that McClellan can save Washington, D.C., from the Confederates.

Obviously, this, and not the “lost order,” enabled McClellan to spot his troops for the battle of Antietam 150 years ago this month, which did defeat General Lee’s first invasion of the Union and enable Lincoln to issue the Emancipation Proclamation. Of course, McClellan did not follow up this incredibly bloody battle, and Lee escaped to Virginia for further go-rounds with the Union Army.

“Washington’s Vision” proved survivable…it got re-published in “The National Journal” in 1880, presumably to buck up the spirits and memories of by then-middle aged Union veterans, and it re-surfaced in the “Stars and Stripes” in 1950, to buck up the spirits of the US Army as it fought the Korean War, and presumably to reference the struggle against the insidious menace of worldwide Communism whose clutching claws and bloody hands were even then encircling the American way of life with nuclear weapons, espionage, and fluoridated water.

The American Society for Psychical Research denounced this grand “Washington’s Vision” essay in 1917, as a “literary production for a patriotic purpose.” It noted that when the essay was first published, there was no effort to pronounce it as authentic.

It is just more proof that truth is the first casualty of war. Thanks to the Internet, nonsense like this gets rehashed, re-packaged, and reproduced, as beng truthful and relevant, when it’s only of importance to winning the First Battle of Bull Run. Which the Union lost, anyway.

Some of the other stuff on McCloskey’s web page is pretty hilarious…his getting a good parking space for a musical concert is proof of God’s love, and bad weather and the flag at the same concert getting knocked to half-staff by said weather is a message from God. It’s interspersed with a lot of alarmist warnings about Communism and nuclear war, that belongs better in the 1950s, links to photographs of A-bomb blasts, along with an incredible amount of really lousy writing.

It’s proof of that great computer slogan, “Garbage In, Garbage Out.”

By the way, Valley Forge has a massive reputation as a harsh winter for the Continental Army, but the winters at Morristown were a lot worse.

But I do like the idea of worshipping Thurman Munson. Let’s see, he sacrificed his good health and physical well-being for Yankee victory, guided his pitchers to 20-win seasons and three pennants, was named MVP in 1976, suffered public humiliation from Sparky Anderson and Reggie Jackson, died for George M. Steinbrenner’s sins, in his mid-30s, and rose in the form of having his uniform number retired. Yeah, that sounds pretty Christ-like to me…the heck with the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I’m going to form the “Church of Thurman Munson!”

Thanks, Bud! Got any more great ideas?

Folks, sorry about no awards, but my co-author and I have been busy putting our third book (second novel) to bed by tomorrow. It is “Red Herring”, by Joe Sanchez and Mo Dhania (I am the latter), from Old Kings Road Press, and it will be officially out in mid-September. But to our wonderful Kiwiwriter, I will award a box of delicious SomeMoas.

I promise to try to make up for it the coming weekend. The Long Hot Summer is almost over.

Just to get all the facts on the record: “Brother” David’s churchy enterprises are a little confusing. He’s a director of the Book of Acts Salvation and Healing Church of San Antonio, Texas. (There’s also a Book of Acts S&H Church in Dallas, with which he may or may not be connected.) The Georgia outfit I mentioned earlier is the registrant for a mostly dysfunctional website promoting Terrell, but it’s a newer corporation than the Texas enterprise, which seems to be headquartered in a lawyer’s file cabinet.

I’ll also say it’s unfortunate that Hamilton County, Texas, doesn’t put its property records online.

And for Brother Buddy: There are a couple of things about your defense of Terrell that I find a little troubling. It seems to boil down to either “Those loose women made him do it” or “The devil made him do it.”

And then there’s the GED thing. While I think it’s laudable that he did the work to earn the diploma, I don’t see how it supports your argument. Here’s a guy who had preached the gospel for more than 20 years but got caught being dishonest and avaricious, contrary to Bible teachings. Then he redeemed himself by earning a secular high school equivalency diploma? And that means he’s clear to go back to preaching as someone who has authority? I don’t think you’ve thought this whole thing through.

Way to go KIWI. See, wasn’t it worth while. That storm at the Bethlehem Music Fest is true and it collapsed the stage out west earlier. That closest parking spot was worth it. Did you read all the other hints – Gruver, the girl
I talked to during “Fire in the Sky”? All this seems bull & trivial for those on the outside. I have a few more this year. However, that Munson deal, he spoke that on 1st base – but how many times did he do this? Just being scientific you know. Anyway, that may confirm that he was a medium to show us signs. I haven’t put this on the web yet – but what about Tebow for the NY Jets. The praying quarterback comes to New York City – in his praying posture just like who else? Look at the facade on old City Hall and the carved image is not Tebow, but George Washington – as a final warning? It’s just that all these things are shown to me and I say as a sign to confirm all of what I’m doing. If I deny this, then if from God, then I am rejecting his signs to me. Others, you are free to criticize but I don’t dare. Did you read the heavy programming & math I have been doing for the Radfo model for 5 years? It’s the only one for the public started based on 911 dust. Also, on my web site is the 21 cities targeted for the Nuclear. You can also hear David Terrell’s 1hr 45min of his actual vision from the 60′, recorded in the 1970-1971? I picked up on him in 1975. By the way, he did get a divorce but I don’t know about adultry as it was before my time? He is happily married now to a great praying Christian to preserve him to the end.

I don’t care about Snoops, or Snopes, Are they stupid? GW mom was a great praying woman as well as GW.
Knowing how Angles spoke in the Bible and the way it was presented, it’s just like them. Note, GW didn’t want
any visitors but who was boss? Nope Snopes, it didn’t work with me?

Poor Super Sonic. Your certainly not up to your speed but a lag along. First of all, don’t let your twisted mind think I’m dangerous. Just the truth shaked you a little. Forget the suggestion of Pysco helps as they are one of the worst cases of Suicide. Look at that episode at the Army base.
I know of a few, Why? They try to take on people’s problems and the humans can’t take it – only Jesus did.
So – how can they help me? No, bring them on and let them listen to some truth before they go insane with their
false so called religion. I see you like to play doctor? Did you just get done playing house? Grow up to restore your Super status?

Adam Hill, you got the idea? See my website where I use the normal curvee all the time. And believe me, for all that I have seen for his prophecies for 35 years, I bet is R^2 correlation is loike .9995? I used stepwise multiple regression for my thesis at Rutgers so I got a good feel for this. We may not have enough time for such a study. You
almost have to trust me for this.

Being on this program. I have not had time to hear all the prophecies before they happen. However, you may check Terrell’s schedule and hear this yourself. When the churches mock him and the tornadoes tear down a few walls, they still don’t repent. I advise you all, don’t trust any miisters these days but read the Bible – New Testament now for yourself and pray for understanding.
Trust God & yourself as Satan had his ministers in the
Churches – read Revelation.

CM, one must remember that among his followers an actual GED marks him as being highly educated. Its probably actually a better education than provided at most right wing Christian propaganda mills (sorry, i meant unaccredited schools and colleges) and definitely better than the homeschoolers using materials from those right wing propaganda mills. Remember that these are people who actually go to The Creation Museum and read those anti-evolution Chick Tracts to learn “serious science” and not just to make fun of the ignorance of the ultrafundamentalist Christians.

Meanwhile, predicting that there will be natural disasters and that right wingers will freak out about anything is simply making observations based upon past events. This is what real prophesy looks like: ^[9]

*winks*

CM – that GED was justa a little add on. He could only read the Bible and preached it. Actually, he would have been run down as no minister I know preached to more and on the road more than this 77 year old – age guess.
That GED just made him understand English a little better. I just found out that he played hookie for a year as a kid because that math scared him. However, he certainly learned to count money – like on the job training? The devil had these mostly women get that motherly instinct to help
him with goodies for himself as he was so poor. That IRS trap got him in trouble. However, that was just a lead for the judges to have him on trial for being a prophet.

I saw him in Washington,DC before he was arrested. Here is what happened. They had spies out from DC – simply drifted in the tent. He announced that America’s Security was weak and to verify thus, there would be a shooting in the White House. It happened during the revival but only covered by the local paper but not nationwide. About 5 days after he left, they arrested him on that tax owed thing.
Is this his reward for exposing our country’s weakness? See, Who else is a prophet for the US? If they are, they have a lot of catching up to do.

Bungalow Bud, are you saying that Tim Tebow is in fact the Anti-Chirst? Because i’ve been totally thinking that is a possibility, so i’d like to hear more about your theory.

Nobody is handling the Space Case awards, so I’ll give BB one right here. The chances of anyone coming along more deserving of a Sputniik/Shuttle are rather small.

It’s too bad New Orleans preety much walked away-scott free, considering the evils of the mardi gras and bounty gate, when the N.S. Saints staff, coaches and players have bouties on oppositing players. Don’t blame Obama or the Dems. I blame it on God , but the storm was off course. Next time. A storm should slam into California. The land of fruits,nuts and flakes.

Concerned Citizen, I don’t know if you’re joking or pathologically piss mean, but you’re lining up for the Three Week Old Chamber Pot Award.

First of all, thank you Kiwi. That was easily the best comment, in my opinion, from ANYONE on Hatewatch in several months. Really great stuff. Thank you!

And Buddy, please keep digging that hole. You are proving to be just the entertainment I need on a slow, rainy Tuesday here at work.

And it isn’t difficult to ascertain the targets of enemy ICBMs. One only need look at population and industrial centers and important military installations.

You don’t have to be God’s right-hand-man just to look at a map of the United States.

And thorazine is, again in my opinion simply too weak a tranquilizer. You might look at concentrated ketamine. You would probably enjoy that, too.

Erika,

You all need an education. This poor country – can’t trust anybody. Here is the scoop? Right wingers just want to be right to justify their gerat society here in the US. They do have a point against worse sin. Most religious leaders. including Hitler want to straighten out the country’s political to make it ready so Jesus can return. However, Jesus knows who are his and he will not come back until he has his bride – perfected and all the gifts of the spirit returned and preached as a witness – signs, wonders & miracles to all nations. Th right wing don’t know what is right. Most would reject a real Holy Ghost Revival – I know them. So that leaves the liberals – even worse so we are cooked here in the US. Only a real prophet can restore the Church of Jesus Christ. The thing that proves Terrell is right is that he understands that the Trinity is not 3 persons – which concept has confused most all Churches so they are dead. I sent out notices to 325,000 churches about this and the Nuclear War. Locally, some refused I even tell their flock.

Now Tebow the Anti-Christ? Haven’t thought about that but those claiming to be Christian and not knowing enough could be used by Satan. As of now, I used Tim Tebow as a sign that his posture of kneeling prayer matches that of George Washington’s image – also seen on the facade of NYC’s old City Hall Building. I’ll put this on the web. Tim is
not in public office or any big minister yet,

I do have an account of David Terrell meeting the Anti-Christ in person – it was a wild religious showdown that may scare most of you off this web.

Aron, I second your commendation of Kiwiwriter. No one else would have the patience, eloquence, and erudition he has displayed in this cause. A Platinum Anvil to him NOW!

Thorazine was some pretty strong stuff, back when I was working nut, but I think the hard cases used to get Stellazine. The real hard cases got sent to the Quilted Hotel in Chattahochee, but that was before Reagan dumped them on the street.

In fact, anyone with half a brain can predict where earthquakes are likely and where hurricanes are likely, and some very fine-tuned predictions from NASA and NOAA are readily available. There have further been old farmers and old salts both who had a very good “weather eye”, and most South Floridians know a good year for mangos is a likely year for hurricanes (hypothetically, both are a response to the Gulf Stream running hotter and closer inshore). Meanwhile, we must accept BB as our very own Rocky Horror Picture Show. Pop some corn.

Actually, I’ll take care of the hard cider, but none for BB, who is screwy enough already.

Bungalow Bud’s natterings appear to be eroding from bad English and addled to near-unintelligable and barking crazy. I particularly liked his comments re: the Right Wing and gerat (sic) society. Is he referencing Great Society, as in LBJ, who wasn’t Right Wing?

Don’t drool too much on your keyboard, Bud. It might short out on you. On the other hand, perhaps electro-shock therapy might help?

Bud, thanks for your response, but i’m simply confused by it.

You seem to be implying that Satan does not watch television. But that is contrary to other religious theories – most entertainingly illustrated by the works of Jack T. Chick such as “Angels” – which claim that Satan controls the entire music and entertainment industry. Now, if Satan is in fact in control of the music and entertainment industry, don’t you think he’d be watching his investments? My understanding is that he’s real strict about enforcing contracts.

And with Satan watching television to check upon his minions in the entertainment industry, its pretty clear that he would know that politics and religion simply would not reach too many people now. See, after his failure with Ronald (6) Wilson (6) Reagan (6) and unsuccessful experiments with heavy metal and Dugeons and Dragons only netted him a few nerds, Satan knows he has to be more subtle and find a much more appealing package to take over the world. A handsome Christian football player would be exactly the type of thing that a well informed Satan would use.

Then add in that Tim Tebow’s number is “15″ and what is 15, but 5 (the number of letters in his name) times 3. And it (1+5) adds up to 6 so that obviously equals three sixes or 6-6-6 so hence my theory that perhaps Tim Tebow is in fact the Anti-Christ.

i mean the proof is right there ;)

Have you ever heard of rap? It doesn’t take much googling to find a great many “hate songs” urging black people to commit violence against whites. These lyrics are by “artists” who’ve won Grammy awards, the music industry’s highest honor.

Good thinking, Erika! Maybe all handsome football players should be thoroughly checked out, just to be on the safe side? Besides they might have ticks, the poor things…

Aadila,

What about handsome historians of technology? We might have ticks, too!

And Annie, go stick your finger in a pencil sharpener.

I guess I should be happy that Hatewatch has nothing to report since August 29 but it sure seems to have brought out the lunatic fringe on this thread.

Buddy McCloskey, I did not mean that God would laugh at our suffering, but at dips**ts trying to point fingers at people to blame. Anybody can make God laugh. Just tell him your plans.

Tebow – that’s a long pass that Satan would drop. He has better choices – Satan’s not an idiot. Those that think you have sources for predicting earthquakes & weather and look at a map to name the nuked cities – your all kids in the sandbox, The earthquakes are still a mystery to USGS but Terrell calls – where, when and magnitude – you are so outclassed you don’t want to face reality that God will use his best to warn us. Why don’t you listen to him?
Also, the Nuked cities – name them? Do you have all the events leading up to them? We have. Also, there is a secret if your not too proud but use your best wild guess
for life or death. We will have plenty of warning and could probably time the event in 2-3 weeks in advance but go believe your experts.

Thorazine – never heard of it but don’t interfere with my revelations? That’s the problem. Most are all drugged up and tuned to the prince & power of the air because of failed ministers have not told you how to connect directly with Jesus. .

If your almost smart, how are the bombs hitting our cities?
This is also included in the visions but before yoiu read it, Try to guess and be sure to use all you have learned.

There is one statement that Satan has told the truth. He wanted Jesus to worship him and he had power to give Jesus all the kindoms of the earth. Jesus refused because he is going to have them all anyway. Satan will give power to his human and the problem is that person probably doesn’t even know it yet. HOWEVER, HE WILL HAVE A BIG MOUTH.

Erica – Satan can’t reach too many by TV. Your are so fooled. I thought you knew better. The sublime adds + the outright vulgarity iced with violence. If your eye is evil, so then is your whole body. That’s 2000 years of Satan tricking us so we won’t be ready for Jesus. I learned a lot from you all trying to explain and justify yourselves. I might have done the same in my ignorance but all now is —> not <—.

Aron, my dear, you haven’t any ticks. Even if you did manage to find one, you know damn well it came from eBay.

Annie, very few rap songs have ever been about killing white people. White people have been the main consumer demographic of hip-hop and rap since the early 90′s, which is coincidentally the time when “gangsta rap” came to dominate all other styles in existence.

Also, if anyone is wondering why I didn’t say anything about Bud, it’s because I ruled him “not guilty by reason of mental defect.” Annie on the other hand, is competent to stand trial.

Aadila, good thinking – the threat of handsome football players could definitely go way beyond Tim Tebow. But because Bud has yet to explain what a perfected woman is, i’m kind of cautious since it sounds like a tick inspection of the actual Anti-Christ by a perfected woman would doom the world.

Aron, as much as i love handsome historians, until news organizations start showing videos of handsome historians running with no shirts on, i’d consider them a low threat to become the Anti-Christ. You however probably do require closer inspection due to your known Tebow association as a UF graduate. Of course there is still the perfected woman issue.

Oh and Annie is nuts. Rap music may talk about violence, but it doesn’t advocate it.

No, Ruslan, she is not. Her IQ is below 65.

Bungalow Bud:

If this Terrell character is so prescient, or as you say “prophetic”, why couldn’t he prophesize being caught by the IRS, exposed as a fraud and subsequently going to prison?

‘If your almost smart, how are the bombs hitting our cities?’

Well, unless today is outside of the ordinary, there are no bombs hitting our cities. And in all likelihood, outside of a portable nuclear device being used, the chances of a ‘bomb hitting our city’ is utterly miniscule.

If there is going to be a strategic nuclear strike, it will come in the form of a massive missile strike designed to knock out our governmental, industrial, and population centers. In addition, there will be a huge counter-force strike designed to nullify our land-based nuclear capabilities. Most of the Mid-West will simply cease to exist.

And also, just to be clear, it is because I myself — and I ALONE — am so smart that there has never been a nuclear war. Not Jesus. Not Buddha. Not the flying Siberian tiger that lives inside Lincoln’s nose on Mount Rushmore.

It was all me. Bask in my glory.

(Also, damn it, but Aadila and Erika outsmarted me. Guess I’ll have to go back to the beach on Martha’s Vineyard where I was working which had an 85% infection rate of Lyme disease among the staffers. Maybe then they’ll pay attention to me ;D )

*Sighs.* Y’know, I was gonna post some sorta scathing screed against Bungalow Bud… but then I remembered that it’s insanity to try to reason with the insane. All we can do is hope that he finds the medical attention he so obviously needs… And BTW, Bud, I’m an atheist. There are no such things as prophecies (especially when you make the prophecy AFTER the event has occurred,) and the only way Satan is speaking to you is the imaginary voice in your head.

I know my big thing is smacking down the major idiots/insane people who come here and post their ramblings… but this guy’s too much of an easy target. I feel like I’m bullying a really dumb squirrel or something.

Super Sonic – Mach1,2,4 —
I knew you were way off base first. Being an Athesist is such a disadvantage. Don’t know if your mind will pick up but at least you have some good training here – you will
always remember -es[ecially that day.

Reynardine – my how you just trust the human mind – when they all have such a title. What a laugh depending on these agencies. OK – how about the meteorological events that Terrell prophesied. With a MS at Rutgers in Meteorology, Terrell has called short range and long range weather better than all the meteorologist together. I could tell you such stories that still amaze me. However, you would have to decide that 1. I am lying, 2. Hallucinating
3. Just the basic truth. Of couse the Bible says all lyiars go to HELL. Since I don’t take any drugs, and can’t lie, then how am I exposed to trips? These are your problems
to determine, not mine. Time will verify all.

Aron, As for the attack, your crude estimate just cost millions of lives. Listen to yourself instead of a prophet.
All out attack – nice to counter attack but as for against the US – first strike wins – that is the initial destruction unless you know the Bible and the rest of GW’s vision.
Now I see you hedge on sneakin a sutcase bomb into a city then you rethink and go for the allout attack. However, in such an attack, you still didn’t recommend how the missles will hit our cities. Shame.

Identity-H – he knew something was up because when he had the great showdown with the Ant-Christ that tried to change his ministry because he was to come on the scene
soon – he said in a growl – “you will pay for this”. So he went to jail, got his GED and 2 years rest. They said, if you leave the USA for 5 years, you won’t go to prison – bargin plea. Also, he caused 2 panics there and what happened to the Athesist there that mocked him, shocked him. So my advice to Super, don’t be afraid to scathe – it won’t have any effect on me but it will expose yourself and you weakness will be exploited. Guess you hung around the wrong crowd most of your life.

As of today, do you all know that your training, you serve the obvious AntiChrist every year because of your mommies. I finally busted that curse. Anybody want to guess who this is? I expose him severely on my webby.

Bud, there is no need for insults because i am totally trying to have a serious theological discussion with you.

However i will give you another shot at showing that you are capable at having such a serious discussion by asking you a couple of questions.

First, you seem to indicate that Satan will take global power without the use of television despite the fact that television would appear to be the easiest way to gain power. How will that work? Will Satan use nwwspapers? Maybe Youtube videos? Maybe a Facebook page where you can become a “friend of the Devil” and like “Eternal Damnation”? Perhaps Satan will position loudspeakers in major metropolitan areas which constantly say “Christianity is Stupid,” “Communism is Good,” and “Give Up”? Maybe some little tracts similar to Chick Tracts but with a special Satanic message?*

Second, are you saying that Tim Tebow is not good enough for Satan? Does that mean that Satan runs the Denver Broncos? Are they the footmen which the Rev. Estus Pirkle warned us would force us to work in the Soviet salt mines from 6 O’clock in the morning until 10 O’clock at night?**

* Its quite possible that “Lisa” is one of them.

** See “If Footmen Tire You, What Shall Horsemen Do?” a classic in Cold War Fundamentalist Christian paranoia.

If you don’t take drugs and can’t lie, then you’re a schiz, which is what I thought anyway.

No question. Platinum Shuttle to BB. I don’t think anything can bring him back to earth successfully, though. Poor Columbia.

Annie/Jason Smith is back!

Complete with sex change…here strictly to derail the discussion!

So, Annie/Jason…do tell us how the Holocaust never happened!

Then tell us how the Russian people greeted their Nazi invaders with flowers!

Then tell us how Norman Rockwell sided with Hitler!

Then show us your proof that the white man is superior to the black man!

And tell us again how you’ll prove it to us, only if we pay you vast sums of money, showing that you’re into neo-Nazism and junior Fascism for that noblest of purposes…the money!

Then you can give us citations and evidence for all these wacky ideas!

Until then, the tumbrels await for you!

But Annie/Jason, you’re just an amateur when it comes to wacky ideas…Bungalow Bob, who lives in a nice little bungalow right next to reality, takes the prize for winning the wacky races.

It looks like God’s Man on Earth, Bungalow Bob, was not blessed by his Creator with an ability to spell, let alone use the English language properly.

But his idiocies are so amazing and manifold, it’s hard to know where to start.

Let’s see…Hitler the religious leader? That’s a good one. Obviously Bungalow Bob has read very little about Adolf…he’s too busy doing mathematics about atomic attacks that haven’t happened.

His defense of a convicted federal felon, adulterer, and con man, whose prophetic abilities seem to have missed little stuff like 9/11 and his own imprisonment by the Internal Revenue Service?

His raising Thurman Munson to the category of prophet and messenger for the Messiah? So that’s what he and Catfish Hunter were talking about that night on the mound in 1976…it wasn’t about deferred payments or how to pitch to Rod Carew! It was about nuclear war and the Rapture! Of course!

Or is it Bungalow Bob’s incredible sense of self-importance and massive ego? Maybe…according to him, he can never lie, only tells the truth, and never hallucinates…then he lies and hallucinates all over the place, and in public. And without using spellcheck!

No…I think it’s Bungalow Bob’s personal encounter with the Anti-Christ, which is only revealed on his web page. That’s right…only on HIS web page! As opposed to the Westboro Baptist Church’s web page, of course.

And I will here reveal the name of the Anti-Christ…drumroll, please…..Brrrrrrrrrr boom!

It’s yes…CARLTON FISK!

Thurman Munson’s great rival for the role of American League’s best catcher of the 1970s! Thurman hated Fisk, couldn’t stand how the handsome, granite-jawed New Hampshire native got all the good press and starting assignments at the All-Star Game. And proof that Fisk was one of Satan’s minions? What color was the team from Boston? RED! The mark of the devil!

And were they not cursed by the Bambino for all those years? The mark of Cain was upon the Boston Red Sox! Then they saw the light. The true light. They signed Curt Schilling, a fundamentalist Christian, who bled like Christ on the Cross in the sixth game of the 2004 American League Playoffs, and through his sufferings, brought the Red Sox back to Jesus and the World Championship after 86 years! Hallelujah!

But Satan took the Red Sox back over this year…in the form of Manager Bobby Valentine! The name of a saint! Only he was not the Sacred Heart of Jesus, he sold the team back to the Devil, and now the Sox are heading to a sub-.500 season, their players either traded or in revolt! Surely, the work of the Lord!

The signs and wonders are there to be seen! As the Bible begins, “In the big inning….”

Actually, Bungalow Bob, your wild use of the English language, mathematics, and Civil War-era propaganda, combined with colossal ignorance, fundamentalist faith, and extreme gullibility, have given me the biggest laughs I have seen on this website in all the years I’ve been here.

Please do go on…this is like watching Charlie Sheen disintegrate.

By the way, 30 years ago, I met up with a Jewish guy in Manhattan who also claimed to have the secret to the Messiah’s imminent appearance, based on the Jewish mysticism and numerology of the Kabbalah, and his theory was that the fact that the 1978 and 1981 World Series had exactly opposite results was proof that the Messiah was about to show up.

He typed up his theory in 8-point type in a booklet, with only slightly better English than yours, complete with box scores. In 1978, the Yankees lost the first two games of the World Series to the Dodgers in Los Angeles, and then took the next four in a row. In 1981, the Yankees won the first two games in New York from the Dodgers, and then lost the next four in a row, with both teams having mostly the same players.

This, my interlocutor told me, was proof the Messiah was due any minute. Since I was covering the Yankees for United Press at the time, I took this theory to a renowned baseball Zen master and active Yankee on both teams, Lou Piniella, and for once, the normally garrulous and quotable Piniella was lost for words. Finally, he shook his head, and said, “That guy has too much time on his hands.”

The Messiah didn’t show up, either. Never saw the guy with the numbers again.

Anyway, Bungalow Bob, if you really want to emulate your particular Zen master, you should quit hanging out here, and start charging admission to your website. Remember, the biggest god of all is the almighty buck, and Terell figured that out long before he got his GED.

BungalowBud said,
ON SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2012 AT 4:26 PM

Identity-H – he knew something was up because
when he had the great showdown with the Ant-
Christ that tried to change his ministry because
he was to come on the scene
soon – he said in a growl – “you will pay for this”.
So he went to jail, got his GED and 2 years rest.
They said, if you leave the USA for 5 years, you
won’t go to prison – bargin plea. Also, he caused
2 panics there and what happened to the
Athesist there that mocked him, shocked him.
———-
To put this diplomatically: none of what you said made any sense whatsoever. The “Ant-Christ” has the power to summarily arrest and imprison the guy, but offers him a plea bargain? What sense does that make? Furthermore prosecutors don’t offer exile as an option during plea bargaining. Also, this guy doesn’t sound very priestly if he caused 2 panics at the facility he was in. Sounds like he wound up in Ad Seg (aka the Hole).

Still: if he had such insight into the future, why did this man not successfully evade capture?

Ruslan, you’re comments re: Annie and Bud reflect a fundamental misunderstanding of the legal system and need correction (and i’m sorry but since you got me started on the issues of competency to stand trial and NGRI i am going to rant a bit about the inherient injustices which result when the criminal justice and mental health systems interact).

Competency to stand trial measures current mental status and is an extremely low bar (i seriously recommend reading Justice Scalia’s wonderful disent [that is a phrase i don't use very often] in Indiana v. Edwards which does an excellent job of exposing this issue). Effectively if a person no matter how deficient agrees with the advice of their attorney no matter how lousy they will be found competent to stand trial. Generally the issue is whether to plead NGRI which is generally an extremely bad idea – one reason is that by pleading NGRI you remove the prosecution’s burden of having to prove the offense occurred and who committed it. While comptency to stand trial in actuality provides very little protection to someone who is not a complete space case, it is never waivable and can be found sua sponte by a judge, raised by the prosecution, or by the defense. It is also the one issue which can always be used in a habeas case even following a guilty plea.

By contrast, NGRI measures the person at the time of the offense. In order to enter an NGRI plea, you must be comptent to stand trial. Of course, that is a serious problem when often evaluators will measure whether someone is competent solely by whether they are willing to plead NGRI. That is the case even when there might be a strong defense such as the offenses being so overcharged as to be unrprovable – or in cases where a guilty verdict would likely result in a probation only or short jail sentence and an NGRI verdict can result in a life time commitment in a mental health center that is virtually indisguishable from a prison (this is the case in Virginia – its not that way in all states because some states limit the maximum time a person can be kept in custody under an NGRI or equivilent verdict to the maximum sentence for the crime – other states have completely eliminated the NGRI verdict) and practically guarantees at least in Virginia a life time of supervision. Of course, this is the competency problem because in order to be competent to make the plea you need to understand the consequences of it – as well as all available defenses, the consequences of being found guilty at trial following or a guilty plea. And it must be a realistic understanding.of the consequences. That is where the failure of competency evaluations to adequately measure a defendant’s competency really come into play.

Thus Ruslan your mistake is that in order to find Bud “not guilty by reason of mental defect” you would have had to find him competent to stand trial first. And just because Annie is “competent to stand trial” doesn’t mean that she isn’t “not guilty by reason of mental defect.”

Bud, is blaming people’s mommies for the Anti-Christ connected with this perfected women business? Which i might add you still haven’t explained to me. How am i supposed to have a serious theological discussion with you if you refuse to talk to me?

Or are you one of those mysognists who just plain hates women because of the story of Eve and the serpant?

Meanwhile speaking of serpants additional evidence of Tim Tebow’s possibly being the Anti-Christ has emerged. Tim Tebow played for a team called the Gators and Gators are closely related to serpants.

Erika, lest events overtake me again, I will offer you your little gold Sharkie right now (with chocolate diamond eyes) for your legal exposition to Ruslan. Gators, however, are not demonic, given that a thirteen-foot gator was found in a mutual death grip with The Serpent (actually, someone’s discarded Burmese python) in the Everglades. Gators further fight evil by scarfing toddlers, snorkelers, and numerous light-colored hunting dogs.

I want to hear more about this “Ant-Christ;” I have to mow the lawn later today, and I want to know what I am in for if I have to do battle with it.

Kiwi all that you say must be true, but I study zen, rather, well … religiously, and I have difficulty seeing the nexus between Bud’s millenial opinings and personal, experiential insight. Prophesies don’t really fit in too much with that idea, as far as I can see, much less the notion of an irritable God going around destroying things because humanity ate his apple.

Coral Sea, if I understand your location properly, the Antichrist is most likely to take the form of a garter snake or ribbon snake, while the Beast is likely to appear as a big centipede.

No, Reynardine! The Ant-Christ! The Ant-Christ!

Oh — okay — maybe BB meant to write “Anti-Christ.” Nevermind. I don’t have one of those in my yard. But garter snakes and centipedes (up here near Chicago, we only have small centipedes) and welcomed with open arms into my native plant wonderland. I do have some “lawn” that I mow, which is mainly just “walkways” through the prairie splender and the little woodland garden (that’s under a big maple tree).

Reading BB’s babbling posts has addled my brain.

Does Ann Coulter qualify as “Babylon the Great” (aka the Whore of Babylon or Idolatress of Babylon)?

Hoo boy- first it was the “UN gun grab”(which contrary to El Rushbo or Bloviater in Chief, has NOTHING to do with legitimately held firearms in the private possession of law abiding US citizens), now Hurricane Isaac is all Obama’s fault!

In 2009, the United States exported $706 million in small arms, not counting domestic sales. Look no further for your source of all the misinformation about “gun grabbing”. Follow the money people.

$706 million buys a lot of votes.

The theological implications of the :Ant-Christ* are staggering and in order to truly explain them it would require its own tract in the style of Jack T. Chick.**

The short version is that after you die the Ant-Christ will sit in judgment of you and will determine whether you shall be admitted into the heavenly picnic or sent to toil for all eternity in the necter mines where you will be tormeted by bees which are kind of like flying ants*** with stingers which are according to my extensive research**** on the subject basically pointed tails

Is anyone here good at drawing ants?

* especially when you consider that there is also the Anti-Ant-Christ

** Ann T. Hill?

*** You expected good science?

**** I looked at the drawing of a yellow jacket on my Georgia Tech t-shirt.

Erika,

Given the inspiration in Georgia, would those be fah ants, or regulah ants?

So now I’ve killed millions of people? I mean I know that I don’t smell all that great, but sheesh! I’m not THAT foul!

And obviously BungalowBoob has no idea what counter-force or counter-battery means. It means our weapons are eliminated before we can respond.

It is a primary pillar of modern nuclear doctrine, as we finally possess guidance systems accurate to target individual middle silos, with much smaller warheads. No more of these 5, 10, 20 megaton warheads are fielded anymore. They are simply too powerful.

And once again, to Kiwi, the Golden Pinstripe Suit Award for Best Comment, In Spite (Or Because) Of His Mention Of The Reviled Bronx Bombers. Very funny :)

Well all, I did miss the ‘i’ in AntiChrist. Sticky keyboard?
At least your not bored with my Key – Board. You really made this halarious and actually, there is a group in the Bible that no man can number that overcomes the Anti. It is called the testimony of Jesus and prophecy will be big and fit in. Elijah and another will prophecy 3 1/2 years during Anti’s reign then Jesus comes back, throws him in the pit, where all the locust come out and torture them that took the Mark of the Beast. You all should know that by now – nobody buys or sells without his name or the # of his name. Chip implants & all that, Yep, those that don’t like religion telling them what to do, I Understand, but this is extreme. That’s why Jesus made it much easier for us and he has to help us at that time. Also, we are destined to hell if we take his mark, Jesus will help us so we can
call the Anti-Christ an AntChrist because he will not have power over all Christians.

Erica – I don’t know what you mean by that perfect girl. However, what character is the great forerunner of the Anti-Christ in the fullest that our mommies taught us to worship? Can anybody guess.

Here is another one – does anybody know where the bottomless pit in Revelation is? When you hear this, you will all flip out at me.

……..Woooow… Okay, first off, Kiwiwriter, you are a braver person than me. Like I said, I threw in the towel on trying to smacktalk some sense into this guy, because I felt it… Well… It was like beating up a baby. There’s no challenge because the guy clearly is both insane AND stupid at the same time…. but you did it eloquently and better than I ever could.

…..Second, this time to Bungalow Bob, the bottomless pit in Revelation is the one that has clearly been drilled into your skull. The insanity has actually stopped being amusing and has just become pitiful. I’m gonna plead one last time, PLEASE go to the nearest hospital and get a psychological evaluation? It’s entirely possible with your mental defect that you are a danger to yourself or others.

Sure, Bob, the bottomless pit is the center of the earth and Hell is the sun. You think nobody has heard this before?

Erika, around here, I can draw any bug you please. They’re not only enormous, they pose.

Reynardine, thanks for the sharkie – the mass media perpetrated myths surrounding the NGRI verdict is actually a really big issue for me :)

aadila, i’m pretty sure that Satan has higher standards than Ann Coulter. i also think its pretty obvious that the Anti-Ant-Christ will be a “fah” ant so the Ant-Christ will be a “regulah” ant.

Aron, just because we won’t give you a tick inspection doesn’t mean that you smell :)

Bud, i’m totally flattered that you called me a perfect girl but don’t think that lets you off the hook for answering my questions :)

However, i just do not understand your point regarding our mommies leading us to worship the Anti-Christ. My mommy took me to church where i learned to worship God and follow Jesus Christ and i can’t recall her getting me to worship any other entity. Are you saying that God is also the Anti-Christ? Your theology throughly baffles me.

And i’m pretty sure that the bottomless pit is located in Marietta* and is guarded by a Big Chicken and a giant Newt ;)

You’re right, Erika. I was aware of those legal facts but applied them incorrectly to the two defendants. I’ve found Bud incompetent to stand trial, but Annie is. She’s not pleading insanity either, but like you say, that’s good because it usually doesn’t work.

(Imagine Sam ‘Jack McCoy’ Waterson’s voice while reading this for full effect.)

No problem Ruslan.

BTW, Law and Order is one of the primary sources for a large number of myths surrounding the criminal justice system – especially regarding NGRI.

On another note, it seems that i left out the footnote for Marietta. It is:

* Where Old South bigotry meets New South money to form its own special brand of crazy.
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You see NGRI used way more often than it actually is on that show, but to their credit, in at least a couple episodes they point out how risky that is, and often show what a risky gambit it is for the defense.

Erika, many years back, they evidently were vetted by lawyers, but then they decided to dispense with this step. It shows.

Also, New York evidently has peculiarities not known in most other jurisdiction, something I noted when going over a massive trial transcript in order to boil it down to a couple of chapters in a book.

Wear your Sharkie with pride.

Most American jurisdictions follow either a strict or a modified McNaughton, and that is a very high bar to meet. The Durham rule passed into disfavor after Hinckley used it.

Erika, if you were to find time to tweet Aron @AronL , it would be a favor. No, not about anything dealing with peach-colored velour…

L&O does make it seem like New Yorkers are stumbling over corpses left and right. As someone who has seen an unusually high amount of corpses lying on the street outside of a war zone, I can say you don’t typically react the way the actors do on the show.

Ruslan, your background must, at a minimum, be interesting.

It’s hard to predict how someone would react. Twice, when facing a similar threat situation, I reacted very differently. It turned out all right both times, and it might not have. Usually, though, not being utterly surprised by the eventuality makes a difference.

My jurat brother/co-author, Joe Sanchez, was with the police in New York for roughly a decade. Of course, you’ve been prepared for this sort of thing then. He told me that most seasoned cops keep it together unless there’s a dead baby case, or some unusual atrocity. Decomps are not pleasant for almost anyone, and, as he put it, warm weather is worm weather. For my part, I have faced the situation only once, and that was luckily not a decomp, though my mother died in my arms after a long illness. Then, of course, one expects it.

An extra, copper Sharkie, with malachite eyes…

Ruslan, making it appear that NGRI pleas are common is a myth, but its a fairly benign one.

Making it appear that defendants with no prior significant mental health history are use NGRI pleas to escape criminal responsibility, that NGRI cases are primarily murder cases, that if a murderer is found NGRI he or she will be back on the streets after a few months, and that prosecutors usually fight against NGRI cases – those are among the dangerous myths spread by L&O.

Reynardine – your points are true, but i don’t have to know anything about the particularities of New York law to know that newer L&O episodes are downright painful in their slaughtering of the most basic concepts of law and ethics (and i should also point out that as a general matter the lawyering in that show is terrible McCoy is actually a completely incompetent trial attorney who routinely breaks every rule in the trial advocacy book. Of course, that combined with an appalling lack of ethics is what makes him such a good anti-hero.).

i’m not on Twitter so i’ll have to send well wishes to Aron telepathically :)

I deal with attorneys rather often in my line of work. Such interactions are often something of a “magical mystery tour.” Attorneys are very fond of telling others “don’t play lawyer,” but they frequently attempt to play environmental consultant, geologist, community relations/public involvement specialist, and most potentially catastrophic (in some cases), crisis communicator.

I have learned to challenge them back (I am aware that, as attorneys, they are trained to be authoritative and assertive), particularly in crisis communication cases involving accidents (such as spills) having real or potential health effects. I understand that, from their point of view, saying as little as possible is one way (though only sort of) to protect their clients, but after I lay out what can be said and explain the boxes we need to tick to achieve “closure” after an accident, they back off and open up to suggestions.

In terms of community relations/public involvement, I understand why they can’t engage residents and such directly (if there is litigation, this could make them witnesses). Fortunately, I have been able to demonstrate my ability to figure out why people are up in arms without causing a problem. What is funny is that about half the time, the thing that people are upset about is erroneous, as in based on misunderstandings, wrong information, thinking that one facility is actually doing what another facility is doing. In one of my favorite cases, a lot of new residents had moved into a neighborhood near a corn processing facility. They were terrified of the place because they could see a sign that read, “Germ Unit” from the street. They thought the place was making bio-weapons.

So much of the time, I make my living being the eyes, ears, and sometimes noses for attorneys who are otherwise mystified by why “those people” are freaked out. I used to wish I had attended law school because I do admire lawyers, but it’s a heck of a lot more fun to wander around, interviewing people named “mousey” and “klepto” and gingerly stepping through half-demolished steel mills than to sit around in some office wearing a suit and panty hose and all of that crap. Steel-toed workboots rule!

No offense to any of the attorneys who comment here — I always enjoy the insights and specialized knowledge you provide. Fortunately, they don’t have any TV shows on environmental consultants. Who knows how they would depict us?

An attorney is a curiosity of evolution, having arisen among our species in order to defend against others exactly like itself.

Coral Sea, I quite agree that pantyhose are only ever useful as murder weapons in horror movies. Years ago, I read a stupid magazine article wondering why women wear their hems longer in the South. It’s so they don’t have to wear pantyhose, otherwise known as Blazing Saddles. With enough length and ease in the skirt, one can either get away with fitness, a leg shave, and a tan, or wear kneehighs. And, having effectively blown my cover, I admit to being a terrible old lady.

There was a while when I wore separate stockings, but the only garter belt I could find was scarlet, and made out of lace and ribbons. As I was otherwise soberly dressed in a black suit, I figured it was my own damned business. One day, as I was calling from the courthouse pay phone, I noticed a leering prosecutor was standing behind me, and when I hung up, he didn’t step up to make the next call. One of my garter straps had broken, and was drawing the Thin Red Line down the back of my left leg…

Bungalow Bob: “Here is another one – does anybody know where the bottomless pit in Revelation is? When you hear this, you will all flip out at me.”

Well, I can answer that! Since Bungalow Bob has established Thurman Munson as a great prophet and head of the “Church of Thurman Munson,” I’ll tackle the latest from our craziest!

First, you have to know…just who is in the “bottomless pit.” Let’s look at the suspects:

Rawly Eastwick: Paid $2 million by the Yankees in 1978, to solidify a bullpen that already had Sparky Lyle, the incumbent Cy Young Award Winner, and Rich “Goose” Gossage, a future Hall-of-Famer. Eastwick got injured early, appeared in only eight games, and was shipped to the Philadelphia Phillies, where he did little to distinguish himself.

Davey Collins: Paid $2 million by the Yankees in 1982. Promised he would get more at-bats than Dave Winfield in a year the Yankees converted from power to speed. The “Noble Experiment” proved to be a disaster as the “Jerome Avenue Joggers” floundered and finished below .500 under three managers, sending a record 47 players into action. And Collins? He had nowhere to play. They put in him in left and at first base, behind Dave Revering, Ken Griffey, Sr., and John Mayberry. Collins wondered what he was doing on the Yankees all year, and led the team only in confusion. At season’s end, he was shipped to Toronto along with Fred McGriff, for Dale Murray. A truly disastrous signing and deal for the Yankees.

Steve Kemp: Got $5.5 million for five years. But in his fourth game of the season in 1983, he collided with Jerry Mumphrey and Willie Randolph in Toronto, and felt something pop in his right shoulder. It was never the same again. Then he was hit in the face by a thrown ball, and was shipped to Pittsburgh for Dale Berra after the 1984 season. NEver able to hit again, he hung it up age 33.

Steve Trout: When Steinbrenner acquired him in 1987, he called manager Lou Piniella and said, “I just won you the pennant. I got you Steve Trout.” The Yankees gave up Bob Tewskbury. In his first two outings with the Yankees, Trout gave up 10 runs and 14 hits over 11 innings. Steinbrenner said, “The next start will tell about this guy.” Trout luckily threw six scoreless innings in a no-decision effort. IN his next outing, he went 3.2 innings, giving up five walks and making three wild pitches. When Trout took the mound for a start on August 28, he stared out at the flag, in a daze, his hat on. His Yankee line, 0-4, 6.60 ERA, 51 hits, 37 walks, 27 strikeouts, and 9 wild pitches. He was traded to Seattle at season’s end.

Ed Whitson: Signed in 1985 for a five-year $4.4 million deal. In his first 11 starts, he was 1-6, with a 6.23 ERA, and became the object of fan taunts at Yankee Stadium. Manager Billy Martin hated Whitson. Whitson hated BIlly. In Baltimore in September, tensions exploded at the Cross Keys Hotel when Billy and Martin got into a massive fight in the hotel bar. Whitson kicked Billy in the groin with his cowboy boots and security men rushed Whitson outside. Martin followed. In the fight, third baseman Dale Berra intervened, and Whitson tore his V-necked sweater. An enraged Berra slugged Whitson in the mouth, producing a split lip. Whitson broke loose and charged Martin, tackling his manager. Whitson fractured Martin’s right arm.

Amazingly, both men went back to their hotel rooms — only to encounter each other on the hotel’s third floor, and went at it again. Yankee coaches and hotel security people pried the two apart.

Next day, Billy showed up at Memorial Stadium with his arm in a sling, insisting that Whitson was gone. No, he wasn’t. Billy was fired at the end of 1985, and Whitson remained a Yankee.

But things got worse for the Tennesseean. His numbers did not improve. Fans booed him. He found carpenter’s nails under the tires of his famly car at his home in Closter, N.J., and told reporters that rowdy fans followed his car out of the Yankee Stadium parking lot, taunting him. He broke down in tears, talking of his “personal hell.” On July 9, 1986, Whitson escaped his hell, traded back to San Diego for reliever Tim Stoddard. While standing on the checkout line, he sang “Happy Days Are Here Again!” Today he refuses to sign baseball cards of him as a Yankee.

Doyle Alexander: Brought back to the Yankees in 1982, he won only one game for them. In his third start, against the Mariners in Seattle, he gave up five runs in the third inning, four of them unearned. He returned to the dugout enraged, punched the wall, and broke a knuckle on his pitching hand, knocking him out for six weeks. He was fined $12,500. When he came back to the Yankees, he insisted on pitching right away, and gave up five runs and five hits in his first start, retiring only four batters.

On August 10, in Detroit, Dour Doyle gave up a home run to Lou Whitaker on his first pitch of the game, and two more in a six-hit, six-run barrage that sent Doyle fleeing for cover after only three innings. Steinbrenner ordered Doyle to get a physical. Doyle finished the 1982 season 1-7, 6.38 ERA. Next year, Doyle had a manager he hated, Billy Martin (a common refrain), and pitched even worse. The Yankees released him on May 31, possessor of a 1-9 record with a 6.16 ERA, but $1.5 million of Steinbrenner’s money.

Roy Smalley: The urbane and literate nephew of Gene Mauch was acquired in a panic trade at the start of the 1982 season that shipped relief ace Ron Davis and minor leagur Greg Gagne to the Minnesota Twins, and displaced incumbent shortstop and demi-legend Bucky Dent.

Smalley played 89 games at shortstop and 53 games at third base, poorly at both positions, until Dent was shipped to Texas in August.

In 1983, with Billy back, Smalley played regularly at shortstop, but infuriated Billy the Kid by making two ninth-inning errors at Anaheim Stadium on August 27 to enable the Angels to rally for two runs and a 7-6 victory. Martin blamed Smalley. So did Steinbrenner. But Roy hung in there, a backup third baseman behind Toby Harrah and a backup shortstop behind Tim Foli. So Smalley was made number three third baseman and number three first baseman. So in 1984, the baffled Smalley was sent to the Chicago White Sox, finishing his career with a flourish back in Minnesota with the World Champion Twins.

Britt Burns: Signed by the Yankees as a free agent in 1986. Turned out he had a degenerative hip condition. Never threw a pitch in anger for the Yankees.

Andy Hawkins: No-hit the Chicago White Sox for eight innings in 1990, but lost the game, 4-0, on errors by his outfield. He was about to be released with an ERA of over 8.00 and a 1-4 record, but had to be kept on the staff due to injuries to…Mike Witt!

Mike Witt: won five games for the Yankees between 1990 and 1993.

Mel Hall: As a Yankee in 1991, he routinely humiliated and berated rookie Bernie Williams as “Mr. Zero,” driving the sensitive outfielder to tears. The enraged Yankee management let him sign with a team in Japan. Hall later distinguished himself by being convicted for raping an underage girl. Now doing 45 years in prison.

Rondell White: Always about to be traded to the Yankees, he finally became one in 2002, taking over in left field. He promptly batted .240, and was unloaded the following year. Later named in the steroid scandal.

Jeff Weaver: Acquired in 2003 in trade for Theodore Roosevelt Lilly, Weaver distinguished himself with awful pitching, heavy reactions to giving up frequent home runs, and losing a decisive game in the 2003 World Series. Quickly shipped to Los Angeles for…

Kevin Brown(!): Whose $15 million contract and balky back was more than the Los Angeles Dodgers really needed. Brown arrived in 2004 armed with a bad temper Went 10-6 in 2004 with an ERA of over 4.00, but enraged Yankee management and fans when he came out of a game and punched a pillar in the clubhouse, putting him on the disabled list in the middle of the pennant race. He recovered (barely) to pitch the decisive seventh game of the American League Playoffs, and gave up five runs in two innings, including a two-run HR to David Ortiz. Lifted with the bases loaded to thundering boos, he was replaced on the mound by Javier Vazquez. The first pitch he threw to Johnny Damon was slammed into the right field seats to put the game, Playoffs, and Curse of the Bambino away for all time.

Next year, Brown tried to come back but went 4-7, with a 5.60 ERA, and went on the disabled list, and retired at season’s end. He was named in the Mitchell report, and teammates attribute his surly temper to the ‘roids.

Randy Johnson: Acquired in 2005 to firm up the pitching staff with his Hall of Fame credentials, The Big Unit immediately lost his audience by shoving his fist into the face of a CBS Sports cameraman on 57th Street in Manhattan. His back creaky, clearly unnerved, he posted 17-9 records in his two seasons as a Yankee, with 5.00 ERA in both seasons. He yielded up the playoffs in both years, asked for, and got a trade back to Arizona.

And topping them all…

Yes! The “American Idle” himself! Carl Pavano! Noted for being traded from Boston to Montreal for Pedro Martinez and serving up Mark McGwire’s 70th HR in 1998, Pavano impressed the world with an 18-8, 3.00 record with the Florida Marlins, for whom he helped win the 2003 World Series.

He accepted $39.5 million from the Yankees after the “Carlapalooza” tour of the American League East, and joined the Yankees in 2005. He started off strong in his first 10 starts, posting a 4-2 record and a 3.69 ERA. THen he got injured and was shut down for the rest of the season.

In 2006, Pavano bruised his buttocks in spring training, and had to go the minors to rehab. In August, when he was nearly ready to start, he cracked two ribs in a car crash, injuring the model who was his passenger. He did not report the injury at first, then ‘fessed up, and was out for the rest of 2006. Pavano did not throw a pitch in anger in the majors in 2006.

In 2007, with the Yankees questioning his desire, Pavano pitched Opening Day, and looked impressive. He looked good in his second start. Then he suffered “elbow stiffness” and was shut down. It turned out he needed Tommy John surgery. He didn’t throw a ball for the rest of 2007.

In 2008, the Yankees asked him if he would go to the minors, he refused. He finally got back into the rotation on August 23, and actually won the game, and stayed in the rotation until September 14, when he came out of his start at Yankee Stadium, pleading a left hip injury. The Yankee fans thundered down boos on him.

Having taken $39.9 million of the Yankees’ money for a four-year contract, Pavano delivered a mere 9-8 record in less than 30 starts.

After the 2008 season, he signed with the Cleveland Indians. On Opening Day in Yankee Stadium, Pavano took more thundering boos. He was traded to the Minnesota Twins, and finally achieved a positive for the Yankees there…he lost the third game of the American League Divisional Playoffs, enabling the Yankees to sweep the Twins and go on to their 27th World Championship.

Pavano then signed a fat two-year contract, but this year, he has been shut down again with another elbow injury, and his career is believed over.

So where are all these people? In the “bottomless pit” of Bungalow Bob’s imagination. Joined, I presume, by other ballplayers who have disgraced themselves in the New York pantheon, like Vince Coleman and Bret Saberhagen.

And where is the “bottomless pit?” Sparky Lyle gave the answer in the hilarious book he wrote with David Fisher in 1990, “The Year I Owned the Yankees.” The “bottomless pit” is called “Bossland.” It’s a dark and windy place, where Yankees who have disgraced themselves or infuriated Steinbrenner are sent, never to return. It is the final resting place of former Yankees and Mets who will never be invited to Old Timer’s Day, never attend Yankee Fan Fests, and never be either be interviewed for or the subject of a “Yankeeography.” That is “Bossland.”

And as a practical matter, it used to be Columbus, Ohio, where the Yankee Triple-A farm team was back in the late 1970s and 1980s, but now it’s the Scranton WIlkes-Barre Yankees, only the ballpark is being rebuilt, so the team is on the road the whole season, so it’s in limbo.

So that’s the story on the “Bottomless Pit!”

And it’s only slightly less crazier than Bungalow Bob. And for him…let me get this straight, Bungalow Bob…the federal government, acting for the Anti-Christ, offered your boy Terrell to be exiled from the United States or to be imprisoned in the United States, take one. And he refused and went to prison. And as a big-time prophet, he didn’t see that coming. Do you really expect anyone who DOESN’T have a chip implanted in their butt to believe that stuff?

Say hello to Carl Pavano for me on the way down.

Super – for the last time – get out of your stupor. I called your bluff and all you can do is try to turn me over to a loosing clan. Psychologist? I had that in College as they link response – environment to behaivor. That OK for some animals but man made in the image of God – when will you gradute kindergarden? Well I have been like this for 35 years and no danger yet. Why are you so scared – insecurity I presume? You can give advice? Try it on yourself and friends first. You know I won’t listen to you – so sorry but that a step too far down,

Most of you are getting too silly or me now.

aadila – way to go. Who told you that? However, the center of the earth isn’t solid as we were taught but a plasma – which is an inner sun 600 mi wide – the lake of fire?. The crust of the earth is abou 800 mi with openings in the N & S poles which Admiral Byrd flew through, So living on the inside are the gnomes, and fallen races which rule the earth. It is also the UFO hangout. The caves through the crust & under the ocean crust, then have been seen diving into & out of the water – with speeds near 200 mph in water. If we only know what waits for us if we don’t accept Jesus. You smart know it all will scream in hell – which you can hear these screams of hell on U- Tube. Now most would say that this is far out and I am crazy? It would appear so if I had heard this the first time.- but honestly – it is so ducumented that the US is the only country not admitting UFO’s – it’s pathetic. Also, it is really more science proving this than that bull on crust-mantle- & core that we ignorant humans were taught. The inertial effects of a solid earth would show up more than seen now except the tilting of the earth – which Terrell said will happen. The easy way to tell this is watch Polaris +1,5 deg from true north.

I could use spell check but I don’t have time and don’t care.
My term papers are over, See my web for better English, vocabulary & spell checks to suit your fancy. It’s good I leave these errors in here because it gives the weak an excellent excuse to reject this – so they feel a lot better – poor things.

Erica – mom took you to church – that’s good, No not made at Eve but the women are called the weaker. However, in this last day revival, women can prophesy and actually the Holy Ghost will take your mouth and preach for you. Also, you women could do plenty of healing – that
means you can play Doctor legally.

Now the mommy has led us to 2 holidays that depict the AntiChrist perfectly. Halloween – the abode of Satan – the bottomless pit. Look at a pumpkin & compare it to our Hollow Earth and you shall see all the matches. Now the biggie, I’ll give a link to my other web site that explains it all. Satan in all his glory as Santa Claus – really
Satan Claws whith a slight shift of letters. Also, a=1, b=2, c=3, etc, Add up Santa Claus and see what you get.

BB: A hollow Jack o’Lantern can only be compared to your head, but at least it has a light on inside. Now, you are accomplishing nothing except making yourself an object of ridicule. I’d advise you to get in your Shuttle and return from outer space, but you already got sucked out of it in a decompression wind.

Just when I thought Bungalow Bob couldn’t top himself…he did!

He’s a UFO-nut, too!

So that’s what brought down Thurman Munson’s plane! It wasn’t pilot error after all! It was space aliens!

That explains George Steinbrenner! You cracked the big secret, Bungalow Bob!

And Santa Claus is the work of Satan! This is great! I haven’t had this much fun with a crazy person in years!

So…when God created the space aliens, did he do that in a separate creation? And how does your theory connect with the Church of Scientology and the space aliens doing battle on Earth 75 million years ago? And the statues on Easter Island? Is Santa Claus a space alien?

As they say in the Royal Navy, “His men would follow him anywhere, but only out of curiousity.”

Do go on, Bungalow Bob…you must be seeing a whole team of psychiatrists. I usually only hear this kind of babble from drunks in the streets, who have swallowed too many bottles of Night Train Express. That stuff will get you wrecked, but it’s a pretty good anti-freeze.

Reynardine,

Only the ignorant are protecting Satan. Just because you haven’t had tha revealed, you rail on me because your enlightend? Can’t teach an old dog new tricks? Then go wallow in your poor upbringing. We humans are just new kids on the block and here your trying to tell me that these fallen Angelic beings are not planting these thoughts in our head? I don’t care about ridicule but the great possiblity that this is right. I can even back this up with Bible verses but it probably won’t make a dent. I mean you act like this is impossible because of your training? It not your fault so why fret. Go disprove this as we humans have all been suckered but not you?

Kiwi – After all this, you still call me Bob instead of Bud. How can I take you seriously with such a short memory,
Didn’t now that Scientology had covered this but the History Channel on Ancient Aliens has good briefings. You better all get serious. These aliens want earth & man and
there was warfare in heaven as the Bible claims. They are all jealous of man and where do you think Jesus went for 3 days & 3 nights when burried in the grave? He had worked to do and appeared on earth 3 days later but he went where? Anybody know this?

As for UFO’s, you bet as I saw one about 300′ over the Phila Electric power lines about 1962 on the PA turnpike
near the Norristown Interchange, I pulled to park & watch and so did another guy as we both watched it. As I said, I can’t lie and why would I? It’s as real as you are. You call me a nut because you haven’t seen them. You know your system isn’t going to survive all these shocking truths so I making this easy bit by bit for you – being a nice guy.

I’ll meet with a whole team of Psychologists if you want – bring them on and watch all their faces turn red? Why would you want to believe a dead end profession that makes them crazy and commit suicide? Also, their hanging around the insane, with no solutions because they don’t understand the spirit of a human mind, they are at a disadvantage and may go nuts themselves. So leave them in kindergarten and lets advance to perfection as Jesus wanted.

I only used Thurmon Munson as one of many signs. Did you read that he was trapped in his seat and couldn’t escape but his friend did. This is the sad part. This means that the New Yorkers have no escape as they will be trapped and can’t get out. However, as I said, we would give a few weeks notice. Now, those lazy souls that won’t even read my webby, tell me what cities your near how far and what direction and I’ll tell you what chance you have.

As a preliminary comment, BB already received his Platinum Shuttle, but he literally blew it, and is forever Lost in Space, where there isn’t enough oxygen to light even a very small candle in a hollow Pumpkin Head. Erika, as we know, has her gold Sharkie. More as the day goes on.

BungalowBob said – “So living on the inside are the gnomes, and fallen races which rule the earth. It is also the UFO hangout.”

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……………………………I think we’ve got a troll guys. No one is THIS stupid or crazy. Even a schizophrenic wouldn’t be THIS nuts. And I’m calling it quits, guys. I’m throwing in the towel on trying to get this guy to see some sense. I hope his family and friends commit him to a mental hospital for EVERYONE’S safety, because otherwise the alien gnomes in his head might cause him to go and kill someone.

aadila – way to go. Who told you that?
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The prophet travelling to the four corners of the earth. He and his wife stayed with me for a while when they were in trouble. You forgot to mention that the earth will be shaken like an orange in God’s hand and the two thirds water will cover one third land, destroying everything. That is only after all the gold is taken to Tarshish and each persons sins are displayed by moving billboards that have the power to float in the air and are thin enough to slip under doors, just in case anyone thinks they can escape them. Your prophet is pretty good but if you ask me, mine is the real thing.

Bud, i am so sorry that you think we are silly. However, you still have failed to answer any of my questions which makes me think that you are simply pulling a prank on us. I do kind of agree that Santa Claus is kind of evil because its simply wrong to lie to children like that. Also Santa Claus represents the idea of giving people something for nothing and rampart commercialism – but that seems to point of him being of Mammon rather than of the Devil. But i will give you one more chance to answer theological questions:

First, is the Easter Bunny also Satanic?

Second, is Valentine’s Day also Satanic?

Third, if the numerical evidence has you convinced that Satan Claus, oopsie i meant Santa Claus – see you are making me do that too – how come you ignore the numerical evidence pointing towards Tim Tebow? And um, you do realize that Santa Claus is a fictional character, right? Also Santa Claus allegedly lives at the North Pole which you claim is hollow – how does that work?

Fourth, how did the dinosaurs go extinct?

Fifth, if space aliens did in fact come to earth to build things in the past, where did they go? Did they blend in with the native earth population? Did they move on to some other planet which is even better? Eaten by dinosaurs? No room on Noah’s Ark for them?

CoralSea, one of the traits that proves that i am a natural born attorney is that i actually like wearing suits – and Reynardine is right that stockings are the better choice :)

Reynardine, considering that leering judges are almost as common as leering prosecutors, if that would have occurred inside of the court room, it likely would have worked to your client’s advantage. But what is this thing you refer to known as a courthouse payphone? ;)

Erika, courthouse payphones were devices known in Atlantis.

Dammit Bud, are you so selfish that you can’t understand that this conversation is not about you OR your favorite preacher, but rather about Jack McCoy from Law & Order.

Now, on that topic, anyone should realize that a TV show about the legal system is DEFINITELY going to be seriously punched up in the drama department. Let’s face it, the legal world is BORING. On L&O, you often see defendants taking the stand when you know they shouldn’t. Hell, many people wouldn’t even be charged on that show if they just didn’t talk to Briscoe and Green. I also noticed that the prosecutors very often ask open questions on cross, which of course is pretty stupid. But you see the point of Jack McCoy is not to follow ethics or represent the boring reality of the justice system, but rather to be a LEGAL BADASS, who just doesn’t give a #$@k. It’s really a shame they replaced him with that wide-eyed dork Mr. Cutter.

From his UFO experience it sounds like Bud found too much radiant joy from Peach Bottom :)

My hypothesis for UFOs, given the wide number of sightings and difficulty in traversing the vast distance between galaxies (outside of the lotus position), is that the so-called “space aliens” are in fact sublime human beings from the far future, having come back in time to help us. If anyone doubts this hypothesis look no further than Alan Colmes as an example of the first stages of this advanced evolutionary process.

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Actually, Ruslan, if you check my latest entry under the anarchist thread, you’ll see some of them really are quite lively. That trial was in 1965, before the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure or the Federal Rules of Evidence were promulgated, so it was pretty shoot and screw. Nonetheless, it beat the pants off anything you’ll find in Law and Order (Did I write about it? Well, in a work of fiction, any resemblances are purely coincidental, yet since it might still awaken bad memories among some living, I have directed my much younger executor not to offer it for publication for another twenty years)

supersonic250,

I’m done with you too. Who are you to judge another’s mind and your so lazy that you can’t check out any facts. I hope you have time to have all this proven before you too old & brittle? Also a memory loss – I told you I have been like this for almost 35 years and who is in danger? I stated all this before but you can’t remember. The UFO I saw
was real. You mouth is shut until you see some Ancient Aliens on the History Channel. You are found guilty of harassament without any basis. Sort of a spoiled kid that can’t get his way. At least some others are seeking some enlightenment but your mind and heart is dark.

Don’t know how this Law & Order merged in with this discussion link. Don’t blame me, blame this webmaster who linked it.

Erica – Tim Tebow – just staring an NFL career. He is too young and if were Anti, we would have many years that would give us a break, As of now, Satan didn’t hike the ball to him and he wouldn’t pass it but run a quarterback sneak
and be against the USA. I think he is OK – for now.

Valentines Day – I don’t need any stupid Cupid to shoot arrows in my heart. The closeness I see is that the Devil has fiery darts and is smart. Now Easter, I have a big link to my other web site for that sermon. I know Easter Bunny – new life and Jesus Rising scheme – when Jesus has a new glorified body with a kind of flesh – as he ate fish afterwards. However – Chrurches have this from Good Friday to Sunday Morning which disprooves what Jesus said. He was 3 days & 3 nights in the heart of the earth like Jonah in the belly of the whale. Think about that – big hollow belly, big hollow earth. The heart of the earth – being center – as we were taught – is solid all the way to the core? Than where did Jesus go? On the inside shell of the earth, led captivity captive (to him) and came back to earth 3 days & 3 nights later. Count Fri afternoon – Sun morning and see what you get.

These Aliens are trying to blend in and a close encounter of the 3rd kind, they examine our bodies as the don’t understand us. However, all of you take this note down: The’re 1/3 of the Angels fell – they tried to get humans
to slave for them and will try to take us over again by the AntiChrist. You see, they may travel out from earth and you think they are from other planets, they could have been, but all the action is here on earth. If they are so advanced, then why are they hanging out here. Let them go away and pollute other galaxies. However, there are good angles and we really don’t know for sure if they have UFO’s but some hints in the Bible that they may, However,
God must have made man so superior that these fallen Angels are so jealous that they did take women – birthed giants. They won’t give up until they get all humans possible. You probably weren’t taught this link but Jesus Christ, the superior of the fallen human race will restore us, give us new glorified bodies like his, live in the New Jerusalem 1000 mi cube. You can’t miss this great 1000 year party just because some foul mouthed ministers misled you all.

The Cube? The Borg Cube? Could this guy be a Poe?

Rey,
Not a Poe, just a profoundly disturbed individual. Old enough to know better but old enough to get a pass for being looney.

Well, Bungalow Boob, I’ll use your right name when you
1. Start using the English language properly
2. Start writing in coherent sentences and paragraphs
3. Write my name properly (That’s “Kiwiwriter,” not “Kiwi”), and most importantly,
4. Write the name of Thurman Munson (The Thurm Be With You) properly

Until then, I’ll treat you exactly as you are, a crazy wacko who is providing me with hilarious entertainment with increasing wackiness.

Reynardine: I like the 1,000 mile cube myself…maybe Bungalow Boob is a member of the Borg…he seems to think we will all be assimilated!

And as far as “Law and Order” goes…hey, that’s my favorite show in all its formats. I really miss Jerry Orbach as Detective Lennie Briscoe. He was a great actor and Briscoe was a wonderful character. It’ll be interesting to see how “Law and Order:SVU” turns out…I think Detective Olivia Benson is the unluckiest police officer in the Department’s history.

You’re learning all about history and “Ancient Aliens” from the History Channel? Wow…now there are some meticulously researched materials that pass academic standards…you know about academic standards, don’t you? From getting that Master’s in Meteorology and teaching in schools?

It all comes from the History Channel, huh? So can you link “Ice Road Truckers” and “Pawn Stars” and “Modern Marvels” to your numerology about Santa Claus’s name? Will the Ice Road Truckers deliver supplies to the hole at the South Pole? Will space aliens try to get $500 for their Antarian Glow Water? (They use that to polish Spican Flame Gems, see “Star Trek”)

How do you reconcile your outageous sense of self-importance and smug certainty that you are the voice of God with the Westboro Baptist Church’s view of events?

How come a know-it-all like you hasn’t heard of Snopes.com or the Church of Scientology? Which will come first, the Mayan armageddon in December or Terrell’s prophesied end of the world? What are you going to do when neither of them happen? Inquiring minds want to know!

You still haven’t explained to us how a prophet who knows how and when the world is going to come to an end didn’t know the Federal Government was going to offer him a choice between imprisonment and exile, over bilking his supporters. And how come he didn’t know the Feds were plotting against him and move to avoid that?

We’re still awaiting the explanation of the numerology of Santa Claus and his connection to Satan.

And if the Devil isn’t using TV to spread his message, how’s he going to do it?

When do you plan to learn to spell and write coherent sentences?

Have you ever been examined by a Space Alien? What was it like?

Tell us more about the gnomes and fallen races that are living under the hole at the South Pole.

And since divorce is a sin, please explain why you and your wife split up after 22 years…after reading your stuff, I’m amazed she hung in that long.

I’ve been reading this blog for a good many years, and seen all kinds of wacky folks come in here and spout drivel, but you take the cake, Bungalow Boob. You lead the league in craziness.

And show some more respect for Thurman Munson (Praise be to Thurm). When he told Catfish Hunter during Game 6 of the 1978 World Series, “You better throw the ball where I put my mitt tonight, because you ain’t got nothing,” truer words were never spoke. The Thurm be with you, Bungalow Boob.

You’ve been at this for 35 years, and still haven’t been put away yet.

Also, Supersonic doesn’t have to “check your facts.” That’s not the way it works. You’re the one making statements, you have to bring something called EVIDENCE to prove your point. You make the claims, you prove them.

I’m afraid our new playmate Bungalow Bud has been somewhat misjudged. The things he’s been writing here certainly sound crazy, but he didn’t originate them. So it’s a little unfair to accuse him of being crazy for writing them.

What Bung has been espousing here is unfortunately just another confabulation of bad ideas that have been around for a long time. I’ve run into others who talk about UFOs and the hollow-earth theory and Revelation in much the same way he does. What he hasn’t said so far, but which probably is only a thin layer further down in his thinking, is that it all has something to do with the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. At least, that’s where it always leads with the others I’ve met who buy into these kinds of ideas.

Bung (or can I call you Bungie?), you call yourself a Christian, but what you’ve been spouting isn’t anything that, say, Martin Luther or Bernard of Clairvaux or even Saul/Paul of Tarsus would recognize as Christianity. You’re espousing a thoroughly heretical Gnostic-dualist/occultist worldview. Like I keep saying, this stuff about upheaval and conflict is all aimed at control, exploitation, manipulation – making people feel threatened and then offering them some escape from the threat: secret passwords, maps, postures, amulets, etc. etc.

So let’s say you’re a small man in a big world, where corporations chew us up and spit us out, and no one – least of all the government – does anything to stop the injustices, so naturally you feel disempowered and ill-used. And then someone charismatic like Brother David comes along and promises to explain everything and to let you in on a big, BIG secret that will set you above everyone else – well who wouldn’t bite on that bait? And then, having bitten, who wouldn’t devote a lot of thought to justifying that decision?

You’re intelligent enough to craft mathematical models of complex systems like weather patterns. But for purely emotional, irrational reasons, you’ve decided not to apply your intelligence to what you’re hearing from Terrell. And that’s exactly what Terrell counts on. He cheats on his wife and his taxes and then says the devil made him do it, and you go happily along. So I’d like you to ask him a question and then share his answer with us, because I’d really like to know: If God created mankind in his own image, does that mean you think He’s a chronic liar and screw-up like Terrell?

Like it or not we all have metaphysical notions, no matter how informed, ill-informed, refined or crude, and while some ideas people have may seem more “out there” than others, the reasons for one’s beliefs always seem valid to those who have them.

Bud holds principles in order to govern himself as a human being, and I prefer to let him be and praise those things which are worthy of praise: hope, good will, and enthusiasm, to name a few.

Kiwiwriter, thanks for the defense, but honestly, I don’t give a UFO-flying gnome about what Bunghole Bob thinks of me or my opinions of him. However, like you, I am drawing endless amusement from how TOTALLY batsh** insane this nut is, and wondering how he manages to feed himself, since he clearly can’t hold a job or contribute to society with his mental illness. My only guess is that he IS writing to us from the nuthouse.

Thank you Bud for finally answering some questions :)

of course your answers pretty much completely baffle me – especially regarding the Easter Bunny and your complete failure to cover the important matter of what happened to the dinosaurs.

And you really should try discussing the important manner of L&O – i think that L&O presents a strange universe while the police are way to smart and willingto admit their mistakes – the defendants also tend to be way too smart as well – and the attorneys and judges are way too stupid. Apparently smart criminals and police and dumb lawyers and judges produces good drama.

And um, i do kind of think that Bud is a parody.

Kiwiwriter & staff,

Westboro Baptist = they should leave the military alone because they fought , & me 28 years in Naval Reserves for
USA freedom. I know the results of the spreading of the homo scene will advance the nukes sooner than we think. However, because the Baptist Church can so criticize everything, as most Baptist do, they offer no solutions for the homo. It’s when they knew God and then rejected him, God himself allows strong delusions to destroy himself with mankind. So the statement, knew God – is supreme.
The problem is, the Baptist don’t even know how to Baptize to receive the Spirit of God so let them hate themselves, not the Gays because they didn’t reach them
properly before they became Gays. They condemn themselves.

On my other website, I have – and I will now boast a bit – the best explaned sermon on the Trinity & Baptism I have ever seen. Even have some math models proving how most all churches failed to understand Jesus’ commandment on baptism that only Peter & Paul understood. I’m a heretic? Nope, you didn’t notice that Paul only batized the way I am explaining. You got to dig deeper if your into this or you will go off the rest of your life missing the important points. Also, Terrell didn.t give us the end of the world, only about the end of the USA as a major power. The scriptures must be fulfilled and the USA, being the most Christian nation is holding back the AntiChrist – he that hinders until taken out of the way – Bible. Please reread my quotes so you won’t misquote as
you can’t be casual on this.

Nobody has come up with how the USA city bombs are going to hit? I thought I had more than dummies here?
Santa Claus – nobody totaled a=1,b=2 etc. for that name?
It’s 666. On my other website, I can show you how Satan originated & took over Christmas that you all celebrate.

I don’t know about Terrell’s infidelity and need that more proof. However, he would say the devil made him do it so what? A simple repentence must have solved the problem as no one in the country can call all the disasters and reverse them for blessings than he can. I don’t think we or you can find another to take his place. 50 years of a track record that’s still piling up? Don’t waste your time. Best you can do is see him when in your area or order his sermons.

Don’t know anything about the Elder’s of Zion – but don’t show any attachment to names. Seem like you all jump to something you don’t know anything about. When Zion travails, she bought forth a man child that is to rule all nations with a rod of iron. I doubt if any of you know what this means but it’s all tied in.

Who else but the History channel can dig into these caves and show those scenes of airship battles. We don’t know it all but we are new kids (humans) on the block (earth) and very ignorant.

Super – those insinuations have caused you to strike out again. Who cares about your WAG’s.

Hot day. Mix me a cold one with three Borg cubes in it.

Bungalow Bob said: “Santa Claus – nobody totaled a=1,b=2 etc. for that name? It’s 666.”

No, it’s 111. Not only are you insane and an idiot, you can’t do basic arithmetic either.

…It’s obvious the guy’s a troll now, can the mods PLEASE ban him?

I think defendants on L&O are way too dumb. I can’t even count how many episodes I see where people talk to the cops, and of those there are many where you can tell this person never would have been charged had they just remained silent. I also see a lot of defendants on the stand; it was my understanding that it’s usually better to take the 5th at one’s trial just like when dealing with the cops. Are there any ground rules about when it’s good for a defendant to testify on their behalf?

This may seem off topic but it’s far more interesting than Bud’s bizarre textwalls.

Ruslan, having representing real defendants in real criminal trials trust me when i say that those defendants which actually often show a bit of ability to cover their tracks are way too intelligent. What the L&O defendants tend to actually be is way too arrogant – perhaps even too smart for their own good.

And yes, the defense attorneys are total idiots for not getting the case dismissed at the close of the prosecution evidence. And yes, the prosecutors are pretty dumb to actually have to depend upon the defendant’s arrogance to save their case.

However if you have a client who wants to get up in front of a court and testify despite it being totally agaisnt his (it’s almost always “his” btw, i’ve only seen a female defendant do that once) interest there is basically nothing a defense attorney can do to stop it.

And before y’all insult Bud too much, please remember that he called me “perfect girl” and think of how much it hurts my feelings to hear that someone must be stupid and crazy to do that for me :)

Bungalow Boob just gets funnier and funnier…

Santa Claus is the Beast!

Satan created Christmas!

A convicted tax cheat successfully predicts the end of the United States, but can’t see the IRS coming!

He can neither write nor add, and expects everyone else to do his work for him…no wonder his wife left him. I’m just surprised she hung in for 22 years.

But I agree…I’ve had my laughs over Bungalow Boob, but I don’t think the moderators should let him in here any more.

Not without his keeper, that is.

Super? At least you listened a little bit. You proved it anyhow. I made the program years ago – a=6,b=12,c=18. However, it’s easier to total by a-1, b-2, etc. then multiply by 6 instead of adding multiples of 6. The factoring bit in math – remember? I did forget to tell you that as that was the last step. You should have noted that 111 x 6 = 666?
OK.

Bungalow Boob: Ever hear of “Garbage In, Garbage Out?”

He just gets funnier and funnier…

Santa Claus is the Beast!

Satan created Christmas!

A convicted tax cheat successfully predicts the end of the United States, but can’t see the IRS coming!

He can neither write nor add, and expects everyone else to do his work for him…no wonder his wife left him. I’m just surprised she hung in for 22 years.

But I agree…I’ve had my laughs over Bungalow Boob, but I don’t think the moderators should let him in here any more.

Not without his keeper, that is.

Bud, did you learn that from Heuy Freeman in The Boondocks? Because he did that exact same number trick in a comic. And my Tim Tebow number trick was actually much better since there is no basis to multiply 6 to Santa Claus since Santa Claus doesn’t have 6 letters in it or any relation to the number 6 (unless you count the alternative shortened name St. Nick).

By contract, Tim Tebow’s jersey number 15 divided by the number of letters in Tebow equals 3. Then add 1+5 and you get six which means 3 sixes or 6 6 6. It actually makes so much more sense than your Santa Claus conspiracy thing.

But your probably right that Tim Tebow is not the Anti-Christ – after all, everyone knows that SEC football is its own distinct religion ;)

Erica! OK – That Tebow numbering is not direct like this is. Good thing I left out the ’6′ as it brings up stuff. Now, ’6′ is the number of man and perfection is God # 7.
Back at the ower of Babel, it was 660′ high. When man (6′)
entered into it, the head was 666′ high. Now what is the common language today that brings all mankind together?
Try ‘computer’ and see what you get. Use that a=1, b=2. etc. then multiply by 6, Another interesting name is
‘Kissinger’. Also, somewhat close is the Christmas Holiday binge. When man participates –
A Christmas A New Years – total them. I have so much proof on Christmas being Anti-Christ, it will stun you forever. I don’t know if I can link my other web site directly on here but I’ll find a way.

Tebow would have to finish his football – that’s a few years before he would become his 2nd talent as a preacher – forced onto him by his publicity. Tebow – I say was a sign to George Washington’s kneeling & praying poise – carved on NYC’s old City Hall building. It’s a reminder to New York, as he comes there of Washington’s vision of our attack. Also, Thurmond Munson added to the greatly.

Hmm….no Bungalow Boob since the 150th anniversary of the Battle of Antietam.

Coincidence or conspiracy? You decide!

Oh, Bungalow Boob………

We’re waiting……

Must have gone back on his meds.

Or maybe the UFOs picked him up.

Hope you don’t become too scared by the close path of the asteroid tonight. Just a glimpse of the sights & signs Jesus told us to watch for. I knew you loved my messages – entertaining? I am almost like your old comic strip replacement? Just letting you absorb my last sessions? Even though fun time, it’s all serious.

Poor Erica, the feminine don’t understand the evil Santa Claus because she loved it with her kids. The weaker vessel is exemplified here.

No meds here – just started a supplement for me @ 74.
What kind of meds would you suggest? I would say get off yours, not on and maybe some lifght will shine through?

Bud, you ask what medications? I’m thinking you should start with a heavy Thorazine regimen and go from there.

Because you are quite obviously warped.

Aron, Thorazine is way outdated and there are much more effective medications which much less horrific side effects availalbe.

Bud, you are obviously very confused because i do not have children and i was never taught that Santa Claus was a diety.

And you simply have not shown any legitimate reason why Santa Claus who does not even exist is a stronger anti-Christ candidate than Tim Tebow.

And as far as who is a “weaker vessel” whatever that might possibly mean (it is connected to the perfected woman issue? – which you still, i should add, have not explained exactly what that means), i’m not running around saying that a fictional character who was primarily a construct of advertising is going to destroy the world.

Erika, I think you may have misunderstood the reasoning behind my suggestion of Thorazine.

It was BECAUSE of the side effects! Don’t let nobody ever tell you I’m not a vindictive donkeyorifice.

As I most certainly am.

Erika,

Thorazine regimen = thanks for telling me. I don’t know about drugs as much as Aron – and I don’t want to know
as I avoid all those mind bending screw up suggestions.
If Aron would leave the druggie bit alone, he might get educated. He must be on something to have his mind blocked so bad.

I did a wild guess and sorry you didn’t have any kids yet?? Don’t know how old you are. However. didn’t your mom
give you Santa? I have a great sermon exposing Santa Claus on my web site. You read this, you will understand. You don’t know the Bible that well now to know how Satan’s holiday destroys kids faith. Weaker vessel is the Bible quote and I see it’s true. We don’t condemn the feminine but cherish her and understand them better now.
The worst sin was her and that apple then Adam – the 2nd worse was listening to her instead of God. It’s that simple.

Bud,

Nothing you have written so far has been ‘simple.’ It has been convoluted to the point of frank psychosis.

I implore you to seek professional help before you hurt yourself or others.

Poor Aron,
It is all so simple for those who understand. Professional help? If you can’t understand this, you don’t know who is professional either. Besides what so called professional can stand up or judge the word of God. You get the “professional” and I’ll give them a piece to help them too. You realize, they are limited by their training? Leave your common low level spiritual plane and come up a few steps. Doesn’t the world even show you it’s wrap up time? You can’t be that numb. Anyhow, your a waste of my time tp prepare the US and those who will listen to help escape the Nuclear War before it’s too late. You can bluff all you want but deep down, I know you can resist the truth.

Bud,

You’re wrong about me. I know the truth. And I know you’re wrong.

And if you’re not, I am happy to die in nuclear holocaust.

Better dead than crazy.

Aron,

I am wrong about what? Time should prove before the nukes? Just try 1 at a time instead of gut reactions?

i’m disappointed that there is no word yet from that like obviously so perfect vessel that is Mr. Bud on what caused Hurricane Sandy.

And what i really want to know is how was Tim Tebow involved. Or was it connected to Halloween – was Jack T. Chick right about Halloween? And how exactly was Santa Claus involved? Was Santa Claus’s sled seen in the area of the storm steering it towards the United States?

And bud, this imperfect weaker vessel of a woman is way smarter and better educated that you are. Think about that, sweetie.

Dear Erika,

You can bet about that Halloween. Last year at this time. the NE had a record snowfall – heaviest of the year – not even winter till 21 Dec. I had to run my generator then and now here a year later. I’m 35 miles north of Philly. Also, my son in law went to Disney World and did a big Trick or Treat I’m told – but it poured. Then last weekend, he went to Lancaster,PA Sat for a corn maze & Halloween scene. That previous night Friday night,a tornado ripped apart the corn maze & silo and delayed.ythe opening.

David Terrell said about 4 years ago, he saw NYC really bad with a Hurricane. He might have confrimed it in Ashdowne, AK a few days ago. I’ll find out. So, this confirms it with you I hope that I am not kidding.
I didn’t write it up as a sermon even yet on my web site.

If they don’t start Tebo soon, maybe he will be disgusted and preach, hoping with his reputation, he won’t turn Anti – like you said. I remember reading Chick Magazines but don’t recall the Halloween one. Tell me?

Bud, Jack T. Chick’s anti-Halloween tracts are easily available on his website. i think its even a specific category.

And you know that Jesus said that those who attempt to predict the future about when His father would return are lying conmen because not even He knows when that day will be.

Maybe you should try actually reading your Bible for a change rather than listening to what a snake oil salesman like Terrell says about it :)

I know why some snake oiil works but ministers are supposed to annoint with oil & pray for the sick which is better. They have just discovered why it works. Remember Harold Camping end of the world, I called him false in the 80′s and warned on another web site that it wouldn’t happen. Our best prophet Terrell would never tell when Jesus would return. However, you let the Devil fake you out by not believing who Jesus sends because the Devil put his false ministers in the Church too. Read Revelation.. However, Jesus has put his prophets in his church. I read the Bible enough to know who is false & real, I now know more about Halloween than Chick does, You better read the Bible more so you can check me out.

Bud, much of what i know about the Book of Revelations came from a seminary professor of the New Testament whose doctorate came from an actually accredited institution and who is an internationally recognized expert on the life of Jesus and the early church. He even is able to read Aramaic and ancient Hebrew.

Can Terrell read Aramaic and ancient Hebrew?

Can you?

If so, i’ll defer to someone who actually can read the original languages as to understanding what the Bible actually says.

should be “if no” rather than “if so”

Erica,

Beware of them. We only have a rough idea of Revelation
as it will unfold in due time. Higher education is good in most fields but the Seminars lead astray at times. Give me his name and web site and I’ll test him out. I sent an
email to 2000 Bible Colleges and ask them to prove that the USA isn’t the Israel referred to in Ezekiel 38 & 39. None could. Rather go with a proven evangelisty & prophet. Prof may be good in some but I bet he doesn’t know where the bottomless pit is. Glad you had some training.

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