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	<title>Comments on: SPLC Urges Public Figures Not to Attend Values Voter Summit</title>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-617018</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O chestnut tree,
Great rooted blossomer,
Are you the leaf, the blossom or   
     the bole?
O body swayed to music,
O brightening glance,
How can we tell the dancer from     
     the dance? 

--W.B. Yeats &quot;Among School Children&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O chestnut tree,<br />
Great rooted blossomer,<br />
Are you the leaf, the blossom or<br />
     the bole?<br />
O body swayed to music,<br />
O brightening glance,<br />
How can we tell the dancer from<br />
     the dance? </p>
<p>&#8211;W.B. Yeats &#8220;Among School Children&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-608642</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 22:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aadila, since i like dancing, my recommendation is a New Orleans Jazz funeral where you skip the solemn dirge and go straight to the dancing in the streets to upbeat music</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aadila, since i like dancing, my recommendation is a New Orleans Jazz funeral where you skip the solemn dirge and go straight to the dancing in the streets to upbeat music</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-608465</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to some crazy Christian Right &quot;doctor&quot; of some sort (James Dobson of Focus of the Family infamy), parents of three year olds who laugh during funerals should hit them..

The anti-gay crazy just scratches the surface of those awful awful people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to some crazy Christian Right &#8220;doctor&#8221; of some sort (James Dobson of Focus of the Family infamy), parents of three year olds who laugh during funerals should hit them..</p>
<p>The anti-gay crazy just scratches the surface of those awful awful people.</p>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-608223</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember a funeral when I was about three. I could not understand why people were so upset. It was very boring really and I remember wondering why everybody was crying when the looked like they were going to a party. Some psychologists claim children at very young ages cannot comprehend death, but I did. It was, you know, death. I just didn&#039;t see what all the weeping was about. Death to me was great liberation, quite literally liberation, being able to go anywhere instantly. 

Why weep at something like that?

I hope that when I die if there are small children there, poor dears, nobody makes them wear stiff clothes and that everybody feels like not moping around. I&#039;d rather have kids laughing than a bunch of tears. Life has so many tears already. I might even hire someone to come do magic tricks, or play the tuba or something, but I don&#039;t think anyone would get the joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a funeral when I was about three. I could not understand why people were so upset. It was very boring really and I remember wondering why everybody was crying when the looked like they were going to a party. Some psychologists claim children at very young ages cannot comprehend death, but I did. It was, you know, death. I just didn&#8217;t see what all the weeping was about. Death to me was great liberation, quite literally liberation, being able to go anywhere instantly. </p>
<p>Why weep at something like that?</p>
<p>I hope that when I die if there are small children there, poor dears, nobody makes them wear stiff clothes and that everybody feels like not moping around. I&#8217;d rather have kids laughing than a bunch of tears. Life has so many tears already. I might even hire someone to come do magic tricks, or play the tuba or something, but I don&#8217;t think anyone would get the joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-608109</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aadila, obviously my life experience as the youngest child in a Christian household which unfortunately embraced taking that &quot;spare the rod, spoil the child&quot; thing literally will color how i view things, but i think that i now understand..

Is your comparison more based upon the fact that the parent who tries to stop the child from giggling focuses on the wrong thing?  While i initially associated giggling in church with my experience at hearing those dreaded words &quot;Erika [my middle and last name] if you do not stop that, you will get a spanking&quot; i did not think that generally when i was giggling in church it was because my sister whose favorite game was to get me in trouble was making funny faces at me.  By focusing on my reaction rather than what my sister&#039;s original action, my mother punishing me for giggling actually was encouraging much more giggling..

Hence, i seem to have totally misunderstood your point which more consideration makes clear.  Sorry :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aadila, obviously my life experience as the youngest child in a Christian household which unfortunately embraced taking that &#8220;spare the rod, spoil the child&#8221; thing literally will color how i view things, but i think that i now understand..</p>
<p>Is your comparison more based upon the fact that the parent who tries to stop the child from giggling focuses on the wrong thing?  While i initially associated giggling in church with my experience at hearing those dreaded words &#8220;Erika [my middle and last name] if you do not stop that, you will get a spanking&#8221; i did not think that generally when i was giggling in church it was because my sister whose favorite game was to get me in trouble was making funny faces at me.  By focusing on my reaction rather than what my sister&#8217;s original action, my mother punishing me for giggling actually was encouraging much more giggling..</p>
<p>Hence, i seem to have totally misunderstood your point which more consideration makes clear.  Sorry :)</p>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-607829</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erika,

What I mean is that it strikes me as funny that anyone would get upset that I quote the bible simply because I am a buddhist, or feel like they need to wag the finger at me for embracing Christian teachings.

Buddhism is about ending suffering. It&#039;s not about practicing religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erika,</p>
<p>What I mean is that it strikes me as funny that anyone would get upset that I quote the bible simply because I am a buddhist, or feel like they need to wag the finger at me for embracing Christian teachings.</p>
<p>Buddhism is about ending suffering. It&#8217;s not about practicing religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-605908</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 21:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aadila, based upon my childhood experience with parental reaction to giggling during religious services i think that there is a threat aspect to telling a child to stop giggling that you may not necessarily intend in your comparision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aadila, based upon my childhood experience with parental reaction to giggling during religious services i think that there is a threat aspect to telling a child to stop giggling that you may not necessarily intend in your comparision.</p>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-605037</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Telling a buddhist what to believe is a little like telling a child to stop giggling at a funeral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telling a buddhist what to believe is a little like telling a child to stop giggling at a funeral.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiwiwriter</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-603309</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiwiwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 01:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annie/Jason Smith is back again!

Complete with sex change…here strictly to derail the discussion!

So, Annie/Jason…do tell us how the Holocaust never happened!

Then tell us how the Russian people greeted their Nazi invaders with flowers!

Then tell us how Norman Rockwell sided with Hitler!

Then show us your proof that the white man is superior to the black man!

And tell us again how you’ll prove it to us, only if we pay you vast sums of money, showing that you’re into neo-Nazism and junior Fascism for that noblest of purposes…the money!

Then you can give us citations and evidence for all these wacky ideas!

Until then, the tumbrels await for you!

See? I don’t even have to think in dealing with him/her/it…I just cut-and-paste my own stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annie/Jason Smith is back again!</p>
<p>Complete with sex change…here strictly to derail the discussion!</p>
<p>So, Annie/Jason…do tell us how the Holocaust never happened!</p>
<p>Then tell us how the Russian people greeted their Nazi invaders with flowers!</p>
<p>Then tell us how Norman Rockwell sided with Hitler!</p>
<p>Then show us your proof that the white man is superior to the black man!</p>
<p>And tell us again how you’ll prove it to us, only if we pay you vast sums of money, showing that you’re into neo-Nazism and junior Fascism for that noblest of purposes…the money!</p>
<p>Then you can give us citations and evidence for all these wacky ideas!</p>
<p>Until then, the tumbrels await for you!</p>
<p>See? I don’t even have to think in dealing with him/her/it…I just cut-and-paste my own stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-602952</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aron, keep in mind that the R in FRC could stand (i originally wrote as a typo satand maybe, i shoud have left it that way ;) for Republican.

And pretty much the rest of the country is learning what people in Virginia already know about Eric Cantor - he&#039;s a total partisan hack (and career politician who actually makes the vomit enducing claim that he &quot;enteied public service&quot; when as a 16 year old his rich parents and Congressman Thomas Bliley (R-Philip Morris) got him as Congressional Page position) in his official biography and my understanding is that he never had a real job in his life (not even with his daddy&#039;s law firm).   For both the FRC and Eric Cantor all that matters is that they are both Republicans - it doesn&#039;t matter that the FRC spreads lies about Nazi Germany and downplays the Holocaust and keep in mind that the AFA is co sponsoring this thing - for a pure partisan hack like Cantor it doesn&#039;t even matter that the Rev. Donald Wildon was generally considered Anti-Semitic based upon what he said about Jews controlling the media.

Incidentially, i do kind of have to appreciate the sense of dark humor which Philip Morris shows in their selection of Congressmen for Virginia&#039;s 7th District - Tom Bliley was a funeral director whose family all owns funeral homes.  Eric Cantor is a lawyer whose family are all lawyers - many of which happen to practice plaintiffs personal injury law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aron, keep in mind that the R in FRC could stand (i originally wrote as a typo satand maybe, i shoud have left it that way ;) for Republican.</p>
<p>And pretty much the rest of the country is learning what people in Virginia already know about Eric Cantor &#8211; he&#8217;s a total partisan hack (and career politician who actually makes the vomit enducing claim that he &#8220;enteied public service&#8221; when as a 16 year old his rich parents and Congressman Thomas Bliley (R-Philip Morris) got him as Congressional Page position) in his official biography and my understanding is that he never had a real job in his life (not even with his daddy&#8217;s law firm).   For both the FRC and Eric Cantor all that matters is that they are both Republicans &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t matter that the FRC spreads lies about Nazi Germany and downplays the Holocaust and keep in mind that the AFA is co sponsoring this thing &#8211; for a pure partisan hack like Cantor it doesn&#8217;t even matter that the Rev. Donald Wildon was generally considered Anti-Semitic based upon what he said about Jews controlling the media.</p>
<p>Incidentially, i do kind of have to appreciate the sense of dark humor which Philip Morris shows in their selection of Congressmen for Virginia&#8217;s 7th District &#8211; Tom Bliley was a funeral director whose family all owns funeral homes.  Eric Cantor is a lawyer whose family are all lawyers &#8211; many of which happen to practice plaintiffs personal injury law.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-602414</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annie, next time you&#039;re on Stormfront or VNN, why don&#039;t you tell them the following:  &quot;Hey, if you&#039;re so concerned about race-mixing, just don&#039;t date people of other &quot;races&quot; and shut up about it.&quot;  

Let me know how that goes over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annie, next time you&#8217;re on Stormfront or VNN, why don&#8217;t you tell them the following:  &#8220;Hey, if you&#8217;re so concerned about race-mixing, just don&#8217;t date people of other &#8220;races&#8221; and shut up about it.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Let me know how that goes over.</p>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-602224</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The water of the valley stream
 Never shouts at the tainted world: “Purify yourself!”
 But naturally, as it is,
 Shows how it is done.

--Ryokan (1758-1831)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The water of the valley stream<br />
 Never shouts at the tainted world: “Purify yourself!”<br />
 But naturally, as it is,<br />
 Shows how it is done.</p>
<p>&#8211;Ryokan (1758-1831)</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-601964</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose Annie we get the usual sawdust Swastinker this week, but unless she really overachieves, not a very big or impressive one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose Annie we get the usual sawdust Swastinker this week, but unless she really overachieves, not a very big or impressive one.</p>
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		<title>By: Otto Isky</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-601911</link>
		<dc:creator>Otto Isky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I want know is why the SPLC is not listed as a HATE GROUP on your HATEWATCH Site ? Could it be that you&#039;re bunch of Self Righteous Anti Christian - Anti Semitic,A Holes with an agenda to destroy America in the name of  Those that would kill and destroy anything America stands for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I want know is why the SPLC is not listed as a HATE GROUP on your HATEWATCH Site ? Could it be that you&#8217;re bunch of Self Righteous Anti Christian &#8211; Anti Semitic,A Holes with an agenda to destroy America in the name of  Those that would kill and destroy anything America stands for?</p>
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		<title>By: adamhill</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-601899</link>
		<dc:creator>adamhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The answer is simple. If you don’t like the FRC, don’t go to their conference and don’t visit their website.&quot;

Right, Annie. Because WSs like you are all about letting people do and be what they want, and if you don&#039;t like it, just don&#039;t participate and everything&#039;s okay. Live and let live. You pathetic hypocrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The answer is simple. If you don’t like the FRC, don’t go to their conference and don’t visit their website.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right, Annie. Because WSs like you are all about letting people do and be what they want, and if you don&#8217;t like it, just don&#8217;t participate and everything&#8217;s okay. Live and let live. You pathetic hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-601829</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take it the fugly liein&#039; Bryan Fissure has not educated himself about the symbol of the Pink Triangle and why truly proud gay men and women wear one.  Asshole dosen&#039;t begin to cover it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it the fugly liein&#8217; Bryan Fissure has not educated himself about the symbol of the Pink Triangle and why truly proud gay men and women wear one.  Asshole dosen&#8217;t begin to cover it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Molloy</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-600828</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Molloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 04:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aadila, thanks for the support. I see where using the teachings of Christ makes more sense when dealing with, uh, &quot;christians&quot; like the FRC. If you say Buddhist their ears close. Not mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aadila, thanks for the support. I see where using the teachings of Christ makes more sense when dealing with, uh, &#8220;christians&#8221; like the FRC. If you say Buddhist their ears close. Not mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadow Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shadow Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 02:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word has it from the G-KKKanyon state. That our own dyspeptic dullard--Gov. Klan (oops I meant Jan) Brewer, will surely attend. Yes, the feeble one, who at the recent Republican convention in FL. Loon-fully announced that she now &quot;fully supports Barack Obama&quot;(of course, she misspoke as per usual). 

Maybe, the SPLC should put Gov. Jan Brewer on the hatewatch list. Right up there with David Duke, Black, Kobach and others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Word has it from the G-KKKanyon state. That our own dyspeptic dullard&#8211;Gov. Klan (oops I meant Jan) Brewer, will surely attend. Yes, the feeble one, who at the recent Republican convention in FL. Loon-fully announced that she now &#8220;fully supports Barack Obama&#8221;(of course, she misspoke as per usual). </p>
<p>Maybe, the SPLC should put Gov. Jan Brewer on the hatewatch list. Right up there with David Duke, Black, Kobach and others.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 00:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Annie / JS

What makes you think you have any credibility or traction on this site? The kindest possible assessment of your history of comments is that you are an imbecile and I am being generous in that assessment.  No matter how many times you change your name we will know you, just as a tree is known by its fruits. Or, in your case, by its nuts.

In the real world you are probably shunned by all except your klavern/cell for the simple fact that your inner malignant personality is probably impossible to disguise.  So, in an act of stunning bravery made possible by the anonymity of the internet, you come here to grace us with your copypasta idiocy.

In all sincerity, thanks, but we&#039;ve seen everything you have to offer. Really. You have introduced nothing new to the conversation but the same old shit that old people like myself, and others, have seen for the past half century.

However, I am a realist and can only speculate as to the new identity that you will be commenting under in the near future. STDs and racist jackasses are the gifts that just keep giving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Annie / JS</p>
<p>What makes you think you have any credibility or traction on this site? The kindest possible assessment of your history of comments is that you are an imbecile and I am being generous in that assessment.  No matter how many times you change your name we will know you, just as a tree is known by its fruits. Or, in your case, by its nuts.</p>
<p>In the real world you are probably shunned by all except your klavern/cell for the simple fact that your inner malignant personality is probably impossible to disguise.  So, in an act of stunning bravery made possible by the anonymity of the internet, you come here to grace us with your copypasta idiocy.</p>
<p>In all sincerity, thanks, but we&#8217;ve seen everything you have to offer. Really. You have introduced nothing new to the conversation but the same old shit that old people like myself, and others, have seen for the past half century.</p>
<p>However, I am a realist and can only speculate as to the new identity that you will be commenting under in the near future. STDs and racist jackasses are the gifts that just keep giving.</p>
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		<title>By: CoralSea</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-600307</link>
		<dc:creator>CoralSea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 00:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aadila -- not to start a war here, but I personally don&#039;t quote bible passages because, for me, as a non-Christian, I don&#039;t care about what the bible says.  This is a collection of writings that has been translated, re-translated, reshuffled in terms of which books are included, and otherwise manipulated to suit the political needs of the time.  It is an interesting historical document with interesting mythology, but I don&#039;t view it as the inerrant word of god the way bible-believing Christians do.

Also, since I don&#039;t view the bible as anything more than a collection of stories and politically useful &quot;laws,&quot; why would I want to legitimize it as THE ULTIMATE DOCUMENT by referencing it in my own arguments?  

If others choose to believe in it, that is their business, but I don&#039;t believe in it myself, and have no interest in basing my own arguments on it.

While it is true that people can (and do) believe what they wish, some beliefs (or the way people interpret them or wish to act upon them) are damaging to the individuals who hold them and/or to society.  Tolerance is vital, in part because people often move through various &quot;stages&quot; as they develop their own relationship with the world.  However, blindly accepting anything others believe isn&#039;t a virtue.  &quot;Strange&quot; beliefs shouldn&#039;t be dismissed or condemned out of hand, but neither should they be uncritically embraced.  Learning how and when to make such assessments -- while continuing to keep the door open, but also willing to slam it shut if a werewolf bent on eating everyone is trying to get inside is all part of the hard work that we all need to do in order the grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aadila &#8212; not to start a war here, but I personally don&#8217;t quote bible passages because, for me, as a non-Christian, I don&#8217;t care about what the bible says.  This is a collection of writings that has been translated, re-translated, reshuffled in terms of which books are included, and otherwise manipulated to suit the political needs of the time.  It is an interesting historical document with interesting mythology, but I don&#8217;t view it as the inerrant word of god the way bible-believing Christians do.</p>
<p>Also, since I don&#8217;t view the bible as anything more than a collection of stories and politically useful &#8220;laws,&#8221; why would I want to legitimize it as THE ULTIMATE DOCUMENT by referencing it in my own arguments?  </p>
<p>If others choose to believe in it, that is their business, but I don&#8217;t believe in it myself, and have no interest in basing my own arguments on it.</p>
<p>While it is true that people can (and do) believe what they wish, some beliefs (or the way people interpret them or wish to act upon them) are damaging to the individuals who hold them and/or to society.  Tolerance is vital, in part because people often move through various &#8220;stages&#8221; as they develop their own relationship with the world.  However, blindly accepting anything others believe isn&#8217;t a virtue.  &#8220;Strange&#8221; beliefs shouldn&#8217;t be dismissed or condemned out of hand, but neither should they be uncritically embraced.  Learning how and when to make such assessments &#8212; while continuing to keep the door open, but also willing to slam it shut if a werewolf bent on eating everyone is trying to get inside is all part of the hard work that we all need to do in order the grow.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-600228</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 23:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I do not understand is this: Eric Cantor is Jewish. Wouldn&#039;t that make him PNG at the FRC?

Also, BBQ LOL ICBM ATM IBM. SUV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I do not understand is this: Eric Cantor is Jewish. Wouldn&#8217;t that make him PNG at the FRC?</p>
<p>Also, BBQ LOL ICBM ATM IBM. SUV.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-600204</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 23:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, Sam, Mitch, CoralSea:

The answer is simple.  If you don&#039;t like the FRC, don&#039;t go to their conference and don&#039;t visit their website.  They have formed their own organization that represents their beliefs and their value system.  They don&#039;t need you.  Go away.  If you want to form your own organization that reflects your value system, then you go off and you do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, Sam, Mitch, CoralSea:</p>
<p>The answer is simple.  If you don&#8217;t like the FRC, don&#8217;t go to their conference and don&#8217;t visit their website.  They have formed their own organization that represents their beliefs and their value system.  They don&#8217;t need you.  Go away.  If you want to form your own organization that reflects your value system, then you go off and you do that.</p>
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		<title>By: ASCA</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-599978</link>
		<dc:creator>ASCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why stop at the horrible things the FRC says? What about their support of terrorist organizations like Operation Rescue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why stop at the horrible things the FRC says? What about their support of terrorist organizations like Operation Rescue?</p>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-599928</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus, Rey.</description>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-599883</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a buddhist, Rey. If I appealed to Buddha&#039;s teachings, would they listen?

Sam, I don&#039;t think homosexuality is a sin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a buddhist, Rey. If I appealed to Buddha&#8217;s teachings, would they listen?</p>
<p>Sam, I don&#8217;t think homosexuality is a sin.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Zabetakis</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-599858</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Zabetakis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Annie,

  Glad to see you are back. I think you migth have missed a few questions of mine in other threads.

  1) How do you determine if someone is &#039;white&#039; before feeling comfortable around them? 

  2) Are the white supremacists who went on a murder spree the sort of people you feel comfortable around?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Annie,</p>
<p>  Glad to see you are back. I think you migth have missed a few questions of mine in other threads.</p>
<p>  1) How do you determine if someone is &#8216;white&#8217; before feeling comfortable around them? </p>
<p>  2) Are the white supremacists who went on a murder spree the sort of people you feel comfortable around?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Molloy</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-599746</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Molloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annie, like FAIR, they are scrubbing their image lately. The SPLC has verifiable records of their past statements that were more extreme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annie, like FAIR, they are scrubbing their image lately. The SPLC has verifiable records of their past statements that were more extreme.</p>
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		<title>By: CoralSea</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-599724</link>
		<dc:creator>CoralSea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annie -- In the wake of the recent imbroglio, FRC scrubbed their website of the noxious lies they were spreading.  

Although it is crude, a saying I once heard from a dear, dear, but crude friend, describes FRC to a T: &quot;They act like their shit don&#039;t stink--but their farts give&#039;em away.&quot;

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annie &#8212; In the wake of the recent imbroglio, FRC scrubbed their website of the noxious lies they were spreading.  </p>
<p>Although it is crude, a saying I once heard from a dear, dear, but crude friend, describes FRC to a T: &#8220;They act like their shit don&#8217;t stink&#8211;but their farts give&#8217;em away.&#8221;</p>
<p>Put that in your pipe and smoke it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch Beales</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch Beales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t need to go to the FRC website.  The fact that Nazi Annie agrees with them proves that they are a hate group.</description>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/09/11/splc-urges-public-figures-not-to-attend-values-voter-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-599704</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to the FRC website and read their response to the SPLC accusations.  You can read it here:
http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/answering-the-southern-poverty-law-centers-attacks-upon-family-research-council

After reviewing the FRC website I find nothing bad or offensive about their position statements.  I agree with them.  I am glad they are having a conference and I am glad that Paul Ryan is speaking there.  There is nothing wrong with the FRC.  I urge other posters here to go to the FRC website, review their statements, and form their own  opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to the FRC website and read their response to the SPLC accusations.  You can read it here:<br />
<a href="http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/answering-the-southern-poverty-law-centers-attacks-upon-family-research-council" rel="nofollow">http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/.....ch-council</a></p>
<p>After reviewing the FRC website I find nothing bad or offensive about their position statements.  I agree with them.  I am glad they are having a conference and I am glad that Paul Ryan is speaking there.  There is nothing wrong with the FRC.  I urge other posters here to go to the FRC website, review their statements, and form their own  opinion.</p>
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