Actually, David Duke certainly has met with leaders of nations…in fact, he met with the President of Iran when he went there for a Holocaust Denial conference! Same guy as Farrakhan! And SPLC has hammered Farrakhan considerably in its works, including for its bizarre alliance with Scientology.

And the White Nationalists do show up at universities. In this blog you will find Jared Taylor speaking at Towson University in Maryland. He’s going to Texas A&M next. If there’s one thing college students like to do, it’s stir up controversy. Something to do with entering adulthood, I think.

Anyway, you’re getting your gouge on rap music’s Islamic links from the Council of Conservative Citizens, which was last seen endorsing segregation of everything from drinking fountains to universities to preserve segregation in the South and all of America. Real classy people.

I can remember people caterwauling about how horrible Elvis Presley was for the way he shook his hips on TV, and how infuriated everyone was about the Beatles, when they came here in 1964 and performed on the “Ed Sullivan Show.” Wearing suits and ties. Yeah, real revolutionary.

Now we look on those times as the “Good Old Days,” and America’s “last time of innocence.” I look at the newspapers and see Cold War, civil rights struggles, a growing conflict in Vietnam, and assassinations. There is no such thing as the “Good Old Days.” (Except the 1998 New York Yankees)

So, just to connect the dots, if one African American shows up at a Tea Party rally, the Tea Party is suddenly the party of ethnic diversity.

But when known racists like the CofCC show up on a recruiting drive in a booth (!), the Tea Party is somehow not a racist organization.

Conservatives have such amazing flexibility with ethics for moral absolutists.

Meanwhile, Wayne’s source for his scary Moslem rapper list is easy enough to tell – go to Google and enter in the following search terms rapper and member and “Nation of Islam” and look what the very first result is (and note the almost identical language to Wayne’s):

The CofCC website. Yes, the very same people who back when they were known as the Citizens Counsel in the 1950s were telling people that rock and roll was evil jungle music.

(sorry, no actual link, the CofCC’s website caused my computer to crash but its easy enough to find)

Granted, I didn’t read Wayne’s comments all that closely. So maybe that explains it.

It’s NWA or it’s nuffin’. Just sayin’.

Straight Outta Compton has finally made me accept my identity as a poor black man. Even though I am a white Jewish guy from upper-middle class roots.

(I really hope this does not come across as racist as I fear it does. And if it does, I hope you guys know me well enough to understand that I’m joking. Because I’m actually a First Nationer from the Northwest Territory. xD)

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Wayne honey, pass by the trailer and take a whiff.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/n.....texas.html

I am on a mobile device, same as you are. I presume you, too, have the ability to copy and paste URLs into comments. I know I do that all the time.

We are willing to wait until you can back up your specious claims with hard evidence. Just don’t (pardon the vulgarity) piss down our backs and tell us it’s raining.

Because it already is raining here in New England.

Aron, I already addressed you by name in my previous comment and then threw “bro” in afterward yet you go and try to highlight the latter over the former to use in some kind of an attack. You go jump to conclusions saying I should “go back to school”. I already know duty rests upon the person making the claim, but one thing the SPLC has is time unlike most of us in the real word, and hence they come out with their publications and post their anti-Right posts on this blog. It is definitely something researching into, is it not?

Kiwi, I am quite aware that the SPLC has wrote about them. However, no pro-White (Nazi, Racist, Supremacist, etc) leader meets up with leaders of nations as does Farrakhan (met with Iranian president and received money from Libyan leader for Mosque Maryam), none has crowds of support when he goes and gives speeches, and none speaks regularly at universities, as does Farrakhan. You say 8th grade but this is quite serious.  

One reason people are ideological racists is because they see a double-standard that they don’t see addressed, and they see “ironic hypocrisy”. That just makes them more frustrated and they become even more involved in the “Movement” and the small things get to them and they start to even more believe they are fighting for truth and “freedom” and “fairness” among other things.

Saw other comment about Snoop Dogg. He stopped weed in 2002 for your information. Don’t be getting fresh. :)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,502887,00.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7918383.stm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....70909.html

http://islaminaction08.blogspo.....m.html?m=1

Wayne, “bro”, Snoop Dog is more or less an official member of Willy Nelson’s family. He smokes more pot than…well…Willy Nelson. Does that sound like a devout radical Whitey-hating muslim to you? Please, Wayne. Lay off the bath salts.

Second of all, that’s not how claims work. You can’t make a claim and tell ME to do the research. It is up to the claimant to provide enough evidence to support their position.

You might consider going back to school and spending less time with your fratties, bra.

Now, I suggest you provide some proof of your ridiculous claim, with references and source notes, like you did last week in your 8th grade term paper.

Care to provide some evidence to back up your claims? Because I’m pretty sure you’re lying.

I also am not surprised that these extreme goups set up shop in Idaho. It has always been a haven for racist hate groups because it is generally over looked by the far right wing Republican party that rules the state. The majority of hate groups evolve from the right and the right is just one small step away from the same kind of loathing and hatred that these hate groups espouse.

Themes involving crime, murder, death, illicit sex, magic, religion, mythology, Satan, bragging about one’s skill, weapons, etc. have been staples of popular culture since antiquity. Rap music continues in that tradition talking about the same sort of themes that have long been staples of popular culture. People love tells of outlaws and criminals and they love tells of love and sex. They are popular in high culture – they are popular in low culture – they are popular in between culture. They are common themes even in the Bible.

Thematically there is little difference between a 19th century murder ballad or a 18th century opera aria about adultorous sex and those found on a many gangsta rap songs. The difference would be one of language and level of explicitness. All culture has gotten more explicit over time.

The gansta model of rap music became dominent for the same reason why people flocked to gangster movies in the 1930s – there is something about tales of crime and outlaws which the public finds fascinating. Even before that, people thrilled to the tale of Robin Hood or the Wagnerian operas based upon the Norse gods or tales of the Olympian gods which are filled with sex and violence. In the news media the mantra has long been “if it bleeds it leads.” There is nothing anyone can do to stop this – people have wanted to here stories of criminals and crimes since the beginning of recorded history. Rappers are just entertainers who give the crowd what they want to hear.

Love and sex is also a dominant theme in rap as it is in every other form of popular music since the beginning of music.

Rap also contains political content – some of which is pro-Black – again, so does every other form of music and culture. Like all culture it reflects its time and the concerns of its time. Since many rappers grew up poor people who hate rap often do not want that political message to get out since it is at odds with the myths of America that they want to perserve.

Rap is just another form of music – there is good rap and there is bad rap. Just like there is good music and bad music of all types. The themes are varied but essentially they are about the same things which music has always been about. The best rap music like the best music of all varieties says something about the times which it was produced. The best rap music is also timeless in that it takes classic themes – such as that of the outlaw – and says something new or even an old tale in an interesting way about it.

The target audience of rap music is white people.

I guess you got confused because the entertainers are black. Anyway, you just proved Shadow Wolf’s point. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: the Western European culture is historically warlike, violent, and bloodthirsty. Particularly the Anglo-Saxons. In fact, it has been argued by scholars that the prevalence of gun violence in America is due primarily to the Anglo Saxon culture, a notion which I tend to agree with.

Thank you please come again.

(sorry for such an obvious joke but i really don’t know anything else about MC Hammer)

But seriously, we all know that if there was a real Hammerfest devoted to MC Hammer it would almost undoubtably get a much larger audience than the neo-nazi Hammerfest.

As for Hammerfest; meh, I wasn’t planning to attend. I just hope they have enough port-a-potties to accommodate all of the sh$t being blared over the sound systems.

I also agree that a limited government would be best: we should for example, drastically scale back our military and end the zero-tolerance laws here and yon that serve primarily to fund private sector prisons and do little to maintain law and order. It would be nice if habeus corpus meant something in America too.

Of course, sadly what the term “limited government” means for most Republicans is limiting the government’s action to what conservatives want, (i.e. limiting the ability of a secular democracy to stray from the millennial diktat of the Great White Right Winger in the Sky). .