I think white people should be able to organize and advance their own interests just like every other group of people. Every ethnic group in America is taught to be proud of their race and ethnicity, except white people. America has black television channels, black magazines, black student organizations, black lobbying groups, black scholarships and black barber shops.

These groups recognize that they share some common ancestry and some common interests, and they organize to assert those interests. A multicultural, multiracial, melting pot society that forbids only one ethnic group from preserving its culture and organizing to further its own interests is criminally hypocritical.

Challenging this deeply entrenched anti-white bias is a moral imperative. I’m white, and I’m proud of my white heritage, culture, and history, as I should be.

“And to add on as parenthesis to Kiwi’s brilliant expose on the fallacies of the red scare:

In 1917 Russia under the Tsars was essential a medieval country, almost entirely agrarian and backwards in every way. By 1961, accomplishing what it took the West hundreds of years to achieve, the Soviet Union proved the ability of planned economies to achieve scientific breakthroughs, putting the first man in space.

I don’t see how counter-revolutionaries along the way were materially different than the execution of Sacco and Vanzetti who were executed for their ideology on August 23, 1927 in the United States.

Nor does it adequately address how the United States today has the highest incarcerated population of any country on the planet, with about 25% of the world’s inmates right here in our borders.

We have more prisoners in our jails today then the Soviet Union during the height of its crack downs on dissenters, where torture is an everyday practice and we lead the way toward state sponsored execution.

And most are black.”

Don’t forget that the Soviets also put the first satellite in orbit, the first EVA in space, and the first space rendezvous. Sergei Korolev was a genius.

It appalls me that the world’s most powerful democracy leads the league in incarcerated people. We should be figuring out ways to prevent people from turning to crime AS WELL as punishing them for misdeeds. We need programs to prevent recidivism.

However, while I’m appalled by the high level of incarceration in America, I don’t have too much sympathy for many prisoners — I have more sympathy for victims. We may also lead the league in crime victims. If we can solve crime at its causes, we will have fewer of those, too.

In 1917 Russia under the tsars was essential a medieval country, almost entirely agrarian and backwards in every way. By 1961, accomplishing what it took the West hundreds of years to achieve, the Soviet Union proved the ability of planned economies to achieve scientific breakthroughs, putting the first man in space.

I don’t see how counter-revolutionaries along the way were materially different than the execution of Sacco and Vanzetti who were executed for their ideology on August 23, 1927 in the United States.

Nor does it adequately address how the United States today has the highest incarcerated population of any country on the planet, with about 25% of the world’s inmates right here in our borders.

We have more prisoners in our jails today then the Soviet Union during the height of its crack downs on dissenters, where torture is an everyday practice and we lead the way toward state sponsored execution.

And most are black.

This is because the left wing has people who are smarter, kinder, more civic minded, and generally better citizens than the right wing.

Magnet schools have shown themselves to be a wonderful way to guarantee equal quality of education for all Americans regardless of their demographic background. And as a byproduct of glorious left wing social engineering, these schools help little neo nazis like you to learn the advantages of diversity in civic life from a young age, when impressionable.

I’ll even name the first camp for you: The Rosa Parks white racism detention facility.

Sounds like fun!”

You know, Vili, the racists built their own little GULag. It was the “Aryan Nations” compound in Idaho, and they filled with with their white bigots and convicted violent criminals to work as security guards. Their two achievements were to hold white racist conventions on a regular basis and to chase and threaten the lives of a Native American family that drove by, whose car had the misfortune to backfire as it passed.

The “security guards” chased the family down the road, drove them into a ditch, threatened their lives, shoved guns in their faces, and said, “For this day, we will let your blood live.”

I guess the neo-Nazis figured they could get away with it, because they had their own little camp.

Unfortunately, the real world came back and bit them, because SPLC sued their sorry selves for this horrific misdeed, and Richard Girnt Butler had to turn over the title deeds to this camp, and it ultimately went to the founder of Prodigy, who bulldozed it and turned it into a peace center.

By the way, the GULags pre-date Stalin. And Lenin. And Kerensky. They were set up by the Romanov Tsars, who were many things, but they sure weren’t Communists.

I don’t care about what white bigots spout and drool at their rallies. I get steamed when their right to free speech ends where someone else’s nose begins.

What I do think is that white bigots are stupid, weak, ignorant, nasty people, who blame others for their own failure to address their own problems, and try to make up for their own insignificance by dressing themselves up as “Masters of the Universe.”

As for your obvious insecurities, you are the one who continually brings the topic of miscegenation into the conversation.

Hell, doesn’t even need to be blacks. 90%+ Vietnamese or Hispanic high schools for you children would do, and I still doubt you’d stick around before you were dolling out 10k+ for the nearest private school.

You must PROVE that to me. If you enjoy that new multi-racial utopia, and enjoy the company of your “equal” black neighbors, you may just spark my damn interest on this post-racial thing. However, knowing liberals, some of the best White-flighters out there, you’ll be outta there in a month to the whitest place you can find where zoning laws keep housing prices too high for your colored proles to move in and ruin your coffee shops and dog parks.”

Actually, Vili, I do live in just such a city, with just such neighbors, and my daughter is one of the few white girls in her high school. I’m not going to say where I live or where the school is, mostly because it’s none of your business.

And we don’t have any real problems, either. All of us are getting along just fine. We treat each other with ordinary courtesy, mutual respect, and genuine friendship.

It’s not that hard, really. Just treat others as you would like to have them treat you. Jesus said pretty efficiently.

But yes, they are located right next to each other in Onancock.

But for a serious point about something which is actually not too far from the actual Onancock on the Eastern Shore of Virginia there is an interesting abandoned school along U.S. 13 which i stopped to take some pictures of. According to the historic marker it was the first school for black students in Northhampton County. It opened in (if i remember right) 1950.

I’d like to argue why the White race exists, why it deserves to continue to exist, and the reason that existence is threatened.

And your main answer is that………….. I’m a cuckold?

Brilliant stuff. I’m sure it will be a fine explanation for the growing ranks of discontent White men in America as to why your genocidal policies are justified.

Future White men: “Why have you destroyed our countries future by importing the Third World?”

Antifa response: “Clearly, all of you are expressing political concerns representing repressed homo-erotic urges for colored men. Please return to your homes”

lol.

Please use this instead of “white privilege” to suppress legitimate White interests. This way the anti-White narrative will collapse at an even faster rate than its current high-speed death trajectory.

“This merely shows you do not understand what happened in the former Yugoslavia.”

To make it personal, as you seem incapable of doing anything otherwise, I believe you need to increase your reading comprehension skills. I was just alluding to a scenario in which various groups are shooting one another. I wasn’t hinting that the ethnic and political scenario of 90′s Yugoslavia has a particular lesson for our time.

“Ultimately – and this is what you ignorant white nationalists fail to release – all the white “race” really is especially in this country is people who happen to look “white.” There is nothing pure about it You can’t save something which already doesn’t exist. ”

I’m no genetic purist: I just don’t want everything being overwhelmed by an equatorial lowest common denominator. For me, its a certain “critical mass.” of non-European genetics within a White population that will cause it to take on societal characteristics of the Bario or the Hood. Its reflective of the “20%” black population proportion you often hear that causes White flight to begin. Its both instinctual and rational, entirely justifiable, and something I highly doubt all of you white liberals don’t participate in yourselves.

You see, I simply cannot believe any of you aren’t living elaborate lives of liberal self-deception. For you to prove to me you believe all the B.S. your spewing, you merely need to move to a lower income or even middle income, 90% black area (Detroit would suffice), and send your children to Martin Luther King highschool so they can be one of the 5 or 6 White students at the whole school.

Hell, doesn’t even need to be blacks. 90%+ Vietnamese or Hispanic high schools for you children would do, and I still doubt you’d stick around before you were dolling out 10k+ for the nearest private school.

You must PROVE that to me. If you enjoy that new multi-racial utopia, and enjoy the company of your “equal” black neighbors, you may just spark my damn interest on this post-racial thing. However, knowing liberals, some of the best White-flighters out there, you’ll be outta there in a month to the whitest place you can find where zoning laws keep housing prices too high for your colored proles to move in and ruin your coffee shops and dog parks.

“One of the things I was struck by Kirsten Kaiser’s account of the inner workings of the National Alliance,”

The National Alliance is dead. Your right, much of White Nationalism was a clown movement, but your message rings increasingly hollow as you consistently hold up the same caricatures and straw men to beat. So please keep up the dumb-hillbilly-white-trash-secretly-desires-black-men narrative towards your enemies. It shows your true colors.

“You know something, once these cute little powdered donuts get out into the real world and try to find a job, they may sincerely regret how the Internet makes everything permanent…”

I’m glad you think economic warfare is a legitimate pursuit against freedom of speech. Its clear from your threatening tone that you’re all just a bunch of Stalinists in the waiting, unsatisfied till you’ve finally had your gulag camps built for all the various assortments of White bigots in America.

I’ll even name the first camp for you: The Rosa Parks white racism detention facility.

Sounds like fun!

Will Stockman, if we’re going to play the sweeping generalities game, I can play it, too.

How about this? Whites are taught by their race to pollute the planet, dump oil onto beaches, develop and use atomic bombs, develop and use Zyklon B, run monopolistic corporations that rob their customers and outsource their employees, rip off their companies’ pension plans, cause global warming, machine-gun laborers trying to unionize, massacre Jews, enslave blacks, inflict smallpox on Native Americans, criminalize the construction and waste management industries, turn information systems into propaganda tools, and create a military-industrial complex that starts wars for fun and profit.

What I said is just as inaccurate and unfair as what you said…except for one thing. The above subjects I have covered have had a hell of a greater negative and long-term impact on the world than gangs and school dropouts.

And as a member of the “Master Race,” you might want to master basic spelling. “Privilege.” Look it up. In Webster’s or Johnson’s. Invented by white guys. Yeah, they also do a great number of good things.

Employers don’t just read facebook, you know…

Okay, here is the short version:

Vili, you obviously lack a sufficient understanding of history, culture, and society to understand why the long history of white men having sex with black women matters. Quite simply in fighting for the “purity” of the white race you are fighting for something which was lost long ago. There has been approximtely 500 years of race mixing to form the people known as Americans. If there was a “pure white country” where only white people who could show no Native American or Black ancestors most of your white supremacists and white nationalists wouldn’t qualify.

And honey, its obviously you’ve never been to either a NASCAR race and an opera. Because some black people do like those. Last time i saw an orchestra play not only were there black people in the audience there were black people on stage. Your arguments based upon stereotypes do not impress anyone with actual knowledge.

Anybody who thinks that whites in America (or any other ethnic group, for that matter) who are not in the super-rich, are living in a “bread and circuses” environment, is silly.

Long hours, lousy pay, poor benefits, foreclosures, debts, and figuring out how to pay the mortgage, the car, the kids’ college, and retirement, are not jokes, or games. Only people who don’t deal with such issues would say that that the mass of Americans are living in such an environment.

I have seen that manure spouted by other White Nationalists for decades.

An obsession with a favorite TV show, hobby, celebrity, or baseball team is a relief from the harsh and often cruel realities of real life and its responsibilities.

One of the things I was struck by Kirsten Kaiser’s account of the inner workings of the National Alliance, reported in Intelligence Report, was its complete disconnection from the realities of life. She described how nobody in the organization had a real job, health insurance, real responsibilities beyond the party, or a wife who was not a mail-order bride from Eastern Europe (which made her one of the Slavs that Hitler hated so much, a sparkling irony I caught). She asked the man she divorced if they would ever have a “normal life.”

He asked, “What’s a normal life?”

I think a lot of these White Nationalists should get out of their parents’ basements and away from the computer for a while…get a real job, prepare a real resume, a real apartment, start paying real taxes, and live on a budget…it’ll be interesting to see how their world-paradigm shifts.

Ruslan, you know this type of person and world far better than I do, from the many previous posts of your that I have read (and respected). Am I off the mark? I can take it.

Let’s continue.

“=You should become more familiar with the Hispanic racial caste system. When I deem
“Hispanic” I allude to the current migrants coming into the United States, who are heavily native-indigenous in their racial makeup. White-Hispanics, like the current president of Mexico who looks like joey from friends, are not the kind of people immigrating to the U.S. They’re quite happy being the top of the racial food chain down there.”

So you acknowledge that white Hispanics exist in South America. How do you expain how they are still numerous despite all the “race-mixing?” Cuba is a country which has a significant African population, where racism is officially condemned, yet it is still 63% “white European.” Brazil also has a signifcant “white” or “European” population despite having a very large African population. Looks to me like your fears are unfounded.

“=It’s hard not to ignore the bread and circuses of White America. I mean, it’s what Rome did during its decline. Wake up and smell the coffee as they say.”

Yes, because America is just like Rome.

“The longer we deny race, the quicker America is going to turn into Yugoslavia. That means future blood spilled will be on the Anti-racist hands for denying White Americans the right to talk about the fundamental issues of our country.”

This merely shows you do not understand what happened in the former Yugoslavia. First off, some of the groups who were fighting, particularly Bosnian Muslims and Serbs, were ethnically identical. And despite the claims of Croat nationalists, they are extremely similar to Serbs ethnically. The break-up of Yugoslavia easily tears to pieces your idea of pan-Europeanism, when people so similar could hate each other so violently.

The history of Yugoslavia and the events in its past are very different from those of the US. The ethnic groups of the US do not correspond to the Yugoslav groups. Yugoslavia was a country torn between empires which wrought their influence on various groups so as to divide them and keep them under control. When has America been so occupied?

“=You should lay off the Freud for a bit.”

Maybe you should stop obsessing over blacks and blondes. You brought it up. Freud has nothing to do with this.

From my experience, you’re a pretty typical “intellectual” WN. You back your claims with a lot of ideas you expect to be assumed as common knowledge, but the science and the historical evidence just isn’t there. The taboo about white/black female/male relationships is largely an American thing, dreamed up by racist whites.

Many “white” people have dark complexions. Now why would that be? Centuries of race mixing in the United States. The American people even though you white nationalists refuse to admit it has evolved over time into a massive “triracial isolate” community. Triracial isolate – the most well known being the Lumbees in North Carolina and the Seminoles in Florida – communities were initially formed by groups of whites who adopted a Native American lifestyle. These groups also welcomed escaped slaves who also adopted a native lifestyle. In fact, the Seminole Wars were directly due to the practice of the Seminole tribe in Florida taking in escaped slaves as members. Even today those communities identify and are classified as Native American despite being a mix of three races.

See, sweetie, its like this – the first Europeans arrived to settle in the United States in the period from 1560 to 1600. The initial European settlement in the U.S. was in Florida at Saint Augustine and in what is today Texas, New Mexico, and California – contrary to what you were taught in school, Hispanics were in the U.S. before the English and initially had the initial European settlements in a large section of the United States especially in the Southwest. In fact, much of what you consider “western American” cowboy culture is actually of Spanish origin. The first successful English settlers arrived in 1607. The first Africans arrived in shackles in 1619. The first settlements in the United States were, of course, by the Native American population who there are several theories as to how they got here but it is most commonly believed originated in Asia. The first Europeans to visit the current United States is now known to be the Vikings who have been documented in the northeastern part of the United States around 1000. It is possible that Phoencian or African sailors may have crossed the Atlantic to the Americas even earlier.

From that you can see that there have been literally centuries of race mixing within this country. In the frontier region especially whites often took Native American women to be their wives. In the slavery era it was very common for owners to impregnate (and not always by rape) their wives – especially favoring light skinned women (in the most famous case, that of Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemmings, Sally Hemmings in fact was the half sister of Thomas Jefferson’s deceased wife Martha and closely resembled her).

Many of these children and the mothers were later freed – especially the ones who were products of long term “consensual relationships” as opposed to rape – and being light skinned eventually some began to “pass” as white. Even after slavery ended relationships between white men and black women continued – even Strom Thurmond arch segregationist had a black daughter. As more of these relationships occured, given the fact that blacks had extremely limited educational and job opportunities and as their skin became lighter and lighter through interracial relationships more and more blacks passed as white*. Passing continued throughout the Jim Crow era where their were instances where Black women often would give up light skinned babies at birth so they could be adopted by white families and grow up white. In other cases after transportion became easier, as adults, light skinned black people would move away to a different state or even town and instantly become “white.” In fact, one of the silliest things about the entire “purity” of the white race concept is that the white race in this country is not pure and hasn’t been for a long time.

Naturally as Jim Crow developed and more and more blacks were able to “pass” as white due to continued interracial relationships states got more restrictive. The racial definition in many southern states was changed to the “one drop” rule – naturally this rule was silly in a world where someone can board a segregated rail coach in their hometown and take it to a state where segregation was banned and instantly become “white.” In Plessy v. Ferguson the case which upheld Jim Crow, Homer Plessy was 1/16 black and by all accounts appeared white – it was only that people in Louisiana knew that he had a black great grand parent that he was “black.” If he simply moved to Mississippi – or better yet Iowa or Illinois the closest non-segregated states to Louiana – he probably would have become instantly “white.”

Now how does all of this work? As some people here are aware, i’m a “white” woman from Georgia – my parents are both from the midwest however. There was never any question that i was white despite having a darker complexion than some black people (my favorite example was the “black” guy blond haired blue eyed guy with extremely pale skin). Now, i really had little idea what my origins were other than “white” European until a family history deepened the mystery by providing some interesting evidence that my several great grandfather may have married a black woman prior to the Civil War. Unfortunately i really do not know – in fact, i realize i know very little about my origins. Most of them are unknown.

Ultimately – and this is what you ignorant white nationalists fail to release – all the white “race” really is especially in this country is people who happen to look “white.” There is nothing pure about it You can’t save something which already doesn’t exist.

Vili, sweetcake, if there was a all white country and you had to get genetically tested to prove you are all white to get in it is almost without a doubt that you and all of your white nationalist friends wouldn’t qualify.

And honeybun, that is the difference between white nationalists and what you call anti-racists. We actually understand history, culture, and society enough to know that we are only white in this country because we “look” white and our ancestors were accepted as “white.”

And one more thing, my sugarwafer, there are black people who like and attend NASCAR races and operas. Its pretty clear that you have never actually gone to either and are obviously ignorant of the late great Wendell Scott and sorry i can’t remember the name of the black female opera singer who was banned from singing at Constitution Hall by the DAR in the 1930s (i’m thinking Matilda Jackson – is that right?). At the last orchestra concert i went to not only were there black people in the audience there were black people playing on stage.

* there were very few recorded instances of whites passing as black – even today when according to white nationalists blacks have all sorts of advantages in education and hiring very few dark skinned whites choose to “pass” as black. If what the white nationalists say is true there would be a stampede of whites seeking to pass as black and get those advantages. Can’t imagine why the white nationalists don’t want to discuss the issue of “passing.”

As for the contempt you feel, Vili, there is nothing irrational about it at all. It refers to you personally, not your mythical “people”. No one is putting “white people” down, they are referring to you, specifically, as an individual. You may attempt to cloak your views with David Duke euphemisms and faux scientific terms, but ultimately you are perceived as just another pathetic little Illinois Nazi.

It is a bit sad, really, but do let us know if you manage to do something about that plummeting birth rate.

“I don’t remember anyone here saying that.” In fact I don’t think I’ve ever seen any serious publication making that claim.
=It’s a common tactic against White men who speak candidly of black male dysfunction. A quick Google search will take you through the realm of racial-sexual perceptions. BM-WM is only heavily discussed amongst White Nationalists because it’s such a clear visual staple among our media and is one of the early phenomenons to produce racial anxiety amongst White males. Like I said before, Asian M-White F, or Hispanic M-White F is almost nonexistent in your daily media. I highly doubt this isn’t done with intention. Based on any casual viewing of your run of the mill American ad or show, America is 40% Jewish, 20% blonde women, and the rest blacks. You do understand that through the majority of human history, different looking men copulating with your women likely means you have been thoroughly crushed militarily or have been enslaved? There are evolutionary-sexual reasons men find foreign females attractive but balk at the thought of alien men with their women. These strange times we live in decree such things as “hip” but only White men actively censor their discontent.

“I DO see that thrown around a lot from WNs. I wonder why that is.”
There you go, alluding to personal attack. No movement is made up of perfect men and women, yet you fail to empathize with the fundamentally reasonable and growing discontent amongst Whites against their dispossession. Anti-racists answer only with personal assault: bigot, hater, sexually inadequate, inbred, dumb, lonely etc etc. That is your only answer to the slow but sure dispossession of any entire people?”

“1. Do you have any data to back these claims up?”
=Watch T.V. with a bit of objectivity, and not like the average brain-dead American, and you’ll see what kind relationships between the races they display, both implicitly and explicitly, in their often post-racial fantasy world. You know better than to think any study would actually go release something like: “the rankings of sexual attractiveness by race in media and television,” and not get hunted down by groups like the SPLC. Heck, Kanazawa’s career was nearly destroyed for alluding with his research that black women are found less attractive, on average, than other women by men of all races.
2. Are you saying that white women are so stupid they see an interracial relationship on TV and just decide to go out and find a black boyfriend?
=You should understand I hate the “they be TAKin OUR WHITE WImmenz!” theme amongst WN, but yes, slowly but surely, visually engineering takes its toll. What was once seen as socially unacceptable and ultimately degenerative is made “acceptable” through constant repetition in media.
I in fact find the “yellow-fever” amongst White men to be in the long run vastly more dangerous, for it deludes the racial identity of those who should be fighting for their people. Sadly, White women have lost many of their old cultural healthy norms, and thus Asian women with healthy traditional eastern values look better and better each year.
Muhammad Ali put it best: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVpfcq4pV5U)

3. WHY ARE YOU CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT WHITE WOMEN WITH BLACK PARTNERS?
=It’s an important affront against the continuation of my people. It needs just as much discussion as any other anti-White modern problems like Section 8 housing or low fertility.

“Yes, people only do things because they are “pushed” by the media. People are incredibly stupid. Not you though, you use the internet, so you’re smarter than all of them.”

=As I said, you call us haters and stupid, yet I feel nothing but irrational contempt from the Anti-Racist side. We will win because we are drive by a love our people and wish to preserve them. You will lose for you are only united in your hatred of White existence.

“Contrary to the liberal image it likes to project, Hollywood is a bastion of racism and backward thinking; hence, they think that black male/white female is still edgy.”

=lol. As if movies such as “The Help,” further White Nationalist causes. Hollywood is run by people who aren’t particularly fond of White Nationalism: http://www.latimes.com/news/op.....183.column

“Also, there is no such “race” or ethnicity as “Hispanic.” It’s a linguistic group. There are millions of white, European Hispanics throughout the world.”

=You should become more familiar with the Hispanic racial caste system. When I deem
“Hispanic” I allude to the current migrants coming into the United States, who are heavily native-indigenous in their racial makeup. White-Hispanics, like the current president of Mexico who looks like joey from friends, are not the kind of people immigrating to the U.S. They’re quite happy being the top of the racial food chain down there.

“America? Or you? You obviously spend a lot of time thinking about it. I mean you DID bring it up.”
=It’s hard not to ignore the bread and circuses of White America. I mean, it’s what Rome did during its decline. Wake up and smell the coffee as they say.

“I would agree, based on statistics regarding mainstream hip-hop’s consumer demographic, that white, suburban America loves a particular, stereotypical caricature of ‘black culture’, but in reality this isn’t much different from the days of minstrel shows. Nobody would say the fanbase of minstrelsy weren’t racists.”
=Agreed! You and I both seem to understand this as a culturally degenerative trend. Blacks and Whites both negatively feed off our own stereotypes, now more than ever. Where we differ is that you believe this will end with post-racialism (which I believe as long ago reached expiration date), I see the only solution in separation.

The longer we deny race, the quicker America is going to turn into Yugoslavia. That means future blood spilled will be on the Anti-racist hands for denying White Americans the right to talk about the fundamental issues of our country.

“Actually White nationalism has a LOT to do with feelings of sexual inadequacy, not simply in relation to black men, but men in general.”
=You should lay off the Freud for a bit.

Erika:
“Vili, i find it very interesting and revealing that you failed to list the dominant historic interracial relationship – relationships between white males and black females.”

=I didn’t mention it for it seemed irrelevant in the modern context. However, I hate those early colonial Whites for bringing in slaves, for I doubt they were completely ignorant in the danger of having a completely racially alien group brought into such proximity as your own, especially since the average colonial White feared miscegenation. I also abhor the immoral act of slavery itself (let me guess: you think all White Nationalist want to bring back slavery?). However, the interests of a few greedy men beat the interests of the many, and thus laid the groundwork of so many of the problems White Americans face today.

Ruslan Amirkhanov:
“There is no “replacement of an entire racial group.” First, that “racial group” is arbitrarily defined and the definition has changed radically over time.”
“Arbitrarily defined?” What always amazes me in racial discussions with liberals is whenever general European identities are concerned it’s always deconstruction, dissolution, and nitpicking about distinction. Does the fact that distinct Irish and German identities exist mean that a general European identity doesn’t or can’t exist? Would a German look upon an Englishman and a Nigerian, and say “both men are equally distinct from my identity?” Of course not.
Your average African-American is highly intermixed with European ancestry, roughly 20% I’ve heard off-hand, and yet nobody “deconstructs” black identity. In fact, Africans as a racial group have the most diverse genetic makeup: (http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....02485.html) and yet no one is running around saying “what is the black race….really.” You could be san, or Bantu, or Hutu, all of which have more genetic differences between one-another than say, between an Irishman and Englishman.

“Second, what you call “white” people evolved from “non-white” people,”

-Don’t disagree with you there. In fact, why should we destroy in only a few decades, or little more than a century, what nature and evolution had taken over 10,000 years to create? I generally like to conserve things: like distinct peoples and their cultures, and so find this “liberal” warfare against distinction morally wrong. If you believe in a proposition nation (the current status quo of the West), where group identity and race mean nothing and everyone is merely an individual, then that’s fine by me. However, by making only European countries proposition Nations, you effectively destroy a future for distinct European peoples.

Thus, to preserve our people we require either voluntary, separate communities of which we rightly can keep homogenous or an explicitly European nation for our own.
In America, by making it a “proposition nation”, you effectively destroy its pan-European identity which was held unchallenged through its history until 1965.
Please don’t bring up the Irish. Yes, the Anglo-Saxon character of early America had difficulty assimilating the Irish, and later groups like the polish, but today it’s clearly been accomplished. Blacks and Mexicans have been here since before the U.S. even existed, and their identities are as distinct from Whites as they’ve ever been. Could this be all due to discrimination, comparable to the discrimination early Irish faced? That did not stop their integration, so it must be for other reasons: like general desire to be with one’s own and to continue the existence of one’s group.

“people fitting the description “white” exist naturally all over the world in places you wouldn’t expect, where they are a minority”.

=What, certain tribes in Afghanistan? Particularly “white” looking Uighurs? European descended people living in the upper echelons of the Hispanic caste system? This is not genetic reductionism: European civilization, society, character, and culture will disappear far before its genetic basis becomes lost in a sea of amalgamation.

“I mean, are you suggesting that minorities are treated badly in the US?”

-I believe they were in the past. I believe today Whites are increasingly the “concession class” to be used and abused, and I believe that Whites, as a minority, would receive much worse comparative to most crimes we committed in the past. I know because those replacing us: modern Hispanics, Africans, and Arab-Muslims particularly, carry with them the violent cultures they adapted to in their home countries. If they decide to violently assault us, it’s going to far outsize any of the horrors committed by Bull Conner.

Or wait, do you think we deserve this for our “crimes of the past?”

“Perhaps you should take a good long hard look at the history of your movement and ask yourself why that is. For one thing, your movement does seem to have a lot of pedophiles and sex offenders in it, I mean for a movement which claims to be upholding morality and civilization.”

=You really need to be more skeptical of your side’s war propaganda. Since Roman Polanski drugged and raped and young girl should I determine that Jews are all child molesters? That all camp survivors are child molesters? Half-Catholics? Directors? There’s a reason the anti-racist side is losing ground everyday: all they offer are vitriolic shouts of hate. People are beginning to see our message because anti-racists offer no alternative, regardless of the fallibility of some of our members.
“And who decides what “white culture”, or even “white” is?”

=“Who decides black culture?”. Well, blacks do, they’re just allowed to articulate exactly what that is. As I said before, you cannot wish away something that clearly exists. Ask the implicitly super-white cities of Portland, Pittsburg, etc etc. Ask the entirely White audiences at Nascar races or Opera houses. Look at the racial makeup of America’s churches, the home-school covenants, book clubs, congregations, barbeques etc etc. You would be lying to state such things are all multi-racial utopias, proportionally representing equally the rainbow mosaic of America. In fact, the vast majority are mono-racial.

“Once you have an all-white country, you’re still going to have economic divisions. Then you’ll have to explain the disparity between whites of certain ethnicities and whites of others.”

=Are you saying there may be genetic difference in visible distinction, even cognitive ability between…European ethnicities?! What’s next, dumb Polack jokes?

“I also recommend reading the history of cities like New York and Chicago around the late 19th century-early 20th century.”

=This is also the 21st century. Those periods were long before the advent of the suburbs, before the mixing of America’s European peoples, before the mass immigration of equatorial peoples since 1965, and before the end of segregation. Sometimes, historical precedents don’t offer much value in this unprecedented liberal world.
Today, Whites run from Hispanics and Blacks because gas is cheap and they still have the wealth. They can say they’re leaving for “good schools”, or “cleaner air”, or “I hate black people;” but it’s always the same: Whites run.
Now there’s Black-flight in Dallas from Hispanics. (http://www.dallasnews.com/news.....chools.ece) Oh the horrid racism of desiring to be around your own!

“So a racist, apartheid state which discriminates against some citizens regardless of where they were born or how long they have inhabited the place. Got it!”

=Be careful there………that’s sound like anti-Semitism. We just want a state explicitly designed to promote the safety and continuation of a certain kind of people: European peoples. The Jews have one, and in your opinion, it’s evil. Why not us? Explicitly racial states don’t necessarily need to be as violent as Israel: look at modern Japan, or pre-Mao Tibet.

“Birthrates decline for ALL groups in industrialized countries. Fertility for black women in particular has been going down since the 1970s.”

=Yes, but White fertility is still endemically low due to cultural factors and the cost of rearing children in “desirable” communities with “good” schools (i.e., White areas). We will get replaced as the 1st generation of Immigrations still have very high birthrates in the 5-6 child range before they level off the 2nd or 3rd generation. Thus, Whites get replaced.

“As for the immigrants, over 100 years ago folks were saying the same thing about the Irish, Poles, Czechs, Hungarians, etc.”

=Ah yes, the immigrant argument. As if a Muslim Somalia immigrant on a refuge visa is the exact same thing as a Pole coming in with nothing but the clothes on his back. American White Nationalists don’t mind Poles, Czechs, and Hungarians. In a WN state, they would accept those people, whatever challenges that may entail. Modern Whites wouldn’t flee their neighborhood when a large number of run-of-the-mill Swedes or Poles or Hungarians show up. They will flee when Somalis or Guatemalans show up though, whether they admit they’re racist or not.

Is this whole modern “general European-identity” thing so difficult for you anti-racists to grasp?

“There’s the myth of the American meritocracy for you.”

=exactly, it is a myth. Civil rights effectively killed it, Dukes vs Griggs in particular.

Basically your theory on Africa is a lot like someone saying that Japanese succeeded because they have an epicanthic fold over their eyes.

And one other stereotype is true…your use of recycled and stale arguments is the hallmark of many a neo-Nazi. Run along back to VNN, where you can denounce your buddies as FBI plants.

Sit! Stand! Beg! Roll over! There’s a good little troll!

Before you jump to extoll the racial virtues of military power, consider that one of the main reasons Japan is a prosperous, clean, and productive nation today is that it was prohibited from spending on military after WWII. Same holds for Germany. Meanwhile the American people are taxing themselves to death to keep everyone else from rising up and treating us the way we’ve treated them for centuries. Hardly a point in favor of the white majority, don’t you think, Dave?