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Hatewatch Exclusive: Alaska Serial Killer Exposed to Christian Identity

By Bill Morlin on December 4, 2012 - 12:58 pm, Posted in Christian Identity, Extremist Crime

A confessed serial killer and bank robber who took his own life in an Alaska jail cell on Sunday was exposed to the racist and anti-Semitic beliefs of Christian Identity theology during his childhood in a rural corner of Washington state, Hatewatch has learned.

Israel Keyes, 34, now linked to at least eight murders throughout the United States in the past 11 years, was a childhood friend and neighbor in Stevens County, Wash., of terrorists Chevie and Cheyne Kehoe — two racist brothers now serving lengthy prison sentences for murder and attempted murder.

“The two families, the Keyeses and the Kehoes, were neighbors and friends and lived about a half mile apart off Aladdin Road north of Colville” in Stevens County, Wash., a source with direct knowledge of the situation said. “The kids in both families were home-schooled and they sometimes attended a Christian Identity church called The Ark, just up the road from their homes,” the source said.

Israel Keyes

The Ark, headed by 83-year-old Pastor Dan Henry, preaches that white people are the superior, chosen race and that the Bible is their story. Identity followers generally believe that modern-day Jews are not the real descendants of the Hebrews of the Bible, and many say that Jews are biologically descended from Satan. Identity believers often describe themselves as the true “Israel,” suggesting that Keyes’ first name is a reference to his family’s beliefs.

Israel Keyes, who apparently wasn’t given a middle name, was born in Utah to Mormon parents who purchased rural property in Stevens County, near the U.S.-Canadian border, when he was a child.  On a website for the general contracting business he owned, Keyes listed Colville, Wash., as his hometown and said he built his first log cabin in Stevens County when he was 16.

“He could have attended here, but I don’t specifically remember,” Henry, the Christian Identity pastor, told Hatewatch today when contacted at his church, Our Place Fellowship, located about a mile south of the U.S.-Canadian border. Henry said his church, which he founded in 1975 after moving from Nevada, doesn’t keep a membership roster. “We’ve had hundreds of people attend our fellowship over the years, and I certainly don’t know them all.”

Henry said he had heard news reports about Israel Keyes and his crimes. While he said he didn’t recall meeting Keyes, “I know his family lived her for a time. I don’t remember seeing him here at our church, but he could have been.”

Israel Keyes is believed to have been one of two teenage boys in the Keyes family who showed up along with Chevie and Cheyne Kehoe at a 1992 rally at Ft. Colville Grange, where human rights activists where attempting to organize and counter a growing number of racists and neo-Nazis in Stevens County, the source told Hatewatch.

The FBI is now actively putting together a timeline of Keyes’ past, including times he spent in Stevens County. It’s not clear if any of the four murders Keyes confessed to committing in Washington state occurred in Stevens County, but there is interest in his possible connection to the 1996 murder there of a 12-year-old girl who had prosthetic legs.

Stevens County Undersheriff LaVonne Webb told Hatewatch that while her office is piecing together a timeline of Keyes’ activities in Stevens County, he has not been definitively linked to any unsolved homicides there. “He is not tied at this point to any case that we have in Stevens County,” the undersheriff said.

Keyes was arrested in March in Texas and later indicted in Alaska on three federal charges related to the kidnapping-murder in February of 18-year-old Anchorage barista Samantha Koenig. Keyes was charged with kidnapping resulting in death, receipt and possession of ransom money, and fraud with access device.

The FBI now says Keyes’ nationwide killing spree may date back at least a decade, to when he was 24 or even younger. He has been linked to four murders in Washington state, one in New York and two in Vermont — a couple named Bill and Loraine Currier who were killed in 2011.

Before committing suicide early Sunday, Keyes, a self-employed carpenter, general contractor and U.S. Army veteran, admitted responsibility for robbing several banks, Mary Rook, the FBI special agent in charge in Alaska, said Monday.

Keyes was in the U.S. Army from 1998-2000, stationed at Fort Lewis, Wash., Fort Hood, Texas, and Egypt before being honorably discharged in June 2000, his records show.

Investigators were cautiously interviewing Keyes, attempting to develop a relationship so he would open up and possibly implicate himself in other crimes, and he was cooperating, at least to some extent. Now all investigators can do is work with what he told them and develop a timeline detailing his extensive, almost impulsive travels throughout the United States. They suspect  he may be behind more than the eight killings he already had accepted responsibility for.

“Keyes used proceeds from his bank robberies to pay for his travel, along with money he made as a general contractor,” Rook, the FBI official, said in a statement. “Keyes also admitted traveling to various locations to leave supplies he planned to use in future crimes,” Rook said. “Keyes buried caches throughout the United States.”

“The FBI has recovered two caches buried by Keyes – one in Eagle River, Alaska,  and one near Blakes Falls Reservoir in New York. The caches contained weapons and other items used to dispose of bodies. Keyes indicated the other caches he buried throughout the U.S. contain weapons, money, and items used to dispose of victims,” Rook said.

In a series of interviews with law enforcement officials, Keyes described “significant planning and preparation for his murders, reflecting a meticulous and organized approach to his crimes,” Rook said.

“It was not unusual for Keyes to fly into an airport, rent a car, and drive hundreds of miles to his final destination,” the FBI official said. “This was the case in the murder of Bill and Loraine Currier, where Keyes flew into Chicago, rented a car, and drove across several states before arriving in Essex, Vt. After the murder of the Curriers, Keyes continued his travels on the east coast before returning to Chicago and then to Alaska.”

The FBI official said Keyes “admitted to murdering four people in Washington State. “He killed two people, independent of each other, sometime during 2005 and 2006, and murdered a couple in Washington between 2001 and 2000,” Rook said.

“It is unknown if these victims were residents of Washington or if they were vacationing in Washington but resided in another state. It is also possible Keyes abducted them from a nearby state and transported them to Washington.

“Additionally, Keyes admitted to investigators that in 2009 he murdered a victim on the East Coast and disposed of the body in New York State. Based on Keyes’ statements, investigators believe Keyes abducted the victim from a surrounding state and transported him/her to New York.”

After murdering the young woman barista in Alaska earlier this year, Keyes dumped her body in icy Matanuska Lake near Anchorage, and flew from Alaska to Houston, Texas, authorities say. He returned to Alaska on Feb. 17, investigators say, and used Koenig’s phone and debit card to demand and collect ransom money that was contributed by the public.

The federal indictment says Koenig subsequently withdrew ransom money in subsequent trips he made from Alaska to Las Vegas on March 6 and later in Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.

After Keyes’ arrest, he provided details that led investigators to cut a hole in the ice in Matanuska Lake and recover Koenig’s body on April 2.

Law enforcement officials are still working feverishly to see if Keyes may be linked to other unsolved murders around the country over the last decade. Here is the developing timeline of Keyes’ whereabouts, provided by the FBI:

10/05/2004 to 10/16/2004          Eastern U.S.

04/20/2005 to 04/25/2005         WA, British Columbia

05/10/2006 to 05/15/2006         Western U.S.

09/01/2006 to 09/07/2006         Alaska

10/21/2006 to 10/23/2006         Western U.S., Mexico

11/08/2006 to 11/16/2006          Alaska

02/05/2007 to 02/08/2007         Southwest U.S.

03/01/2007 to 03/09/2007         WA, Canada (drove to Alaska)

04/24/2007 to 05/04/2007         Western U.S., Mexico

08/26/2007 to 09/06/2007         Western U.S.

10/29/2007 to 11/02/2007         Western U.S.

11/12/2007 to 11/13/2007         Western U.S.

12/04/2007 to 12/17/2007         Midwest and Western U.S.

01/05/2008 to 01/08/2008         Western U.S.

01/28/2008 to 02/15/2008         Southern U.S. and Western U.S.

05/11/2008 to 05/17/2008         Western U.S.

07/03/2008 to 07/07/2008         Western U.S.

09/16/2008 to 09/24/2008         Western U.S.

10/24/2008 to 11/05/2008         Southwestern, Midwestern and Western U.S.

12/05/2008 to 12/07/2008         Hawaii

12/11/2008 to 12/25/2008         Mexico

02/23/2009 to 02/27/2009         Western U.S.

04/01/2009 to 04/14/2009         Eastern U.S., Western U.S.

09/11/2009 to 10/03/2009         Southern U.S.

12/17/2009 to 12/29/2009         Southern U.S.

01/11/2010 to 02/25/2010         Western U.S.

03/01/2010 to 03/10/2010         Western U.S.

04/24/2010 to 04/30/2010         Western U.S.

05/19/2010 to 07/18/2010         Midwest U.S. and Western U.S.

07/18/2010 to 07/22/2010         Southwest U.S.

10/15/2010 to 10/25/2010         Midwest U.S., Eastern U.S.

06/02/2011 to 06/16/2011         Midwest U.S., Eastern U.S.

09/15/2011 to 09/25/2011         Western U.S.

02/02/2012 to 02/18/2012         Southern U.S.

03/06/2012 to 03/13/2012         Southwestern and Southern U.S.

  • Rachel Williams

    Most ppl will believe anything they read in the news, I havent’ watched the trash for many years. The jews are satans seed and we ARE the lost tribes and CI doesn’t teach anywhere to murder anyone. What a crock

  • Ukiah Hussein

    the SPLC is one of the most evil organizations on the planet with the possible exception of the ADL and AIPAC, Clearly , anyone with eyes to see can know that the jews who now sit in Israel are there illegally and murder the palestinians with no qualms for life whatsoever. Obama certainly supports these murders or he would do something about them. In his last ‘sermon’ from his pulpit he claimed shedding a tear for the children. I suppose the kids he kills with his drones don’t count for anything because no cameras or newsmen are there to remember them.

  • Kiwiwriter

    “Reynardine said,

    on December 11th, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Kiwi, I was not such a girl, in high school or thereafter. However, I seldom dated, because even the most intellectual guys were all after hot blondes with gooey lipstick and impressive cleavage, who never wore glasses and knew appreciably less than they themselves did (it works both ways).”

    Good point, Reynardine…I don’t think I worded that as well as as I should have. But I would argue that if Adam had pursued women with quality like yourself, he would have found a girlfriend who would have cared for him, instead of ridiculing him with anti-Mormon propaganda.

    I suspect that Adam, like the guys you describe, pursued shallow girls with huge hooters, and got the usual rejections that such girls toss at boys they consider beneath their shallow standards.

  • CoralSea

    Most of the boys that caught my interest in high school actually had hooves and tails — horses, in other words. Working with horses — even the parts like mucking out stalls, grooming, hoof-picking, soaping saddles and other tack, fixing fences and jumps — was more fun, in most cases, than your average date because, well, HORSES!

    Also, I only went to high school about one day a week because I hated it there, and because there were, again, HORSES! The only class I ever got in trouble for skipping was gym, which was stupid, considering all of the exercise I was getting with the horses and hanging around stables and barns. One could get away with that degree of truancy back then because, well, nobody really cared about the education of females.

    Shockingly enough, some girls are just more interested in other things than dating in high school, although I did have a cool, French boyfriend named Christophe who also hung around with the horses (but was sufficiently interesting on his own so that many of our activities didn’t were non-horse related).

    It’s a shame that Adam was turned down for dates, but I would imagine, Adam, that there might have been girls who would have been willing to go out with you, but you didn’t ask them (and they didn’t ask you) because teenagers tend to be socially inept creatures who are terrified of rejection or of doing something (like asking out the quiet, be-spectacled girl who you think is really kinda cute, but your friends don’t, so – oh well) that might be un-cool or lead to mockage.

    Hopefully, you have matured as you’ve aged, and you are more willing to take others as they are — and that they will be more willing to take you as you are, too. It seems that people either get wiser and more accepting, or they remain as petty and superficial as they were in junior high or high school. If you think about it, the ones who don’t “grow up” are missing out on a lot — like being able to look back on the silly stuff that mattered SO MUCH to us when we were kids, and that in retrospect, was just dumb.

    If you are still hurting, write a story about it — a humorous story — and let yourself laugh at how silly people can be. A little gentle humor can help ease many hurts and allow you to explore your own feelings.

  • Reynardine

    Kiwi, I was not such a girl, in high school or thereafter. However, I seldom dated, because even the most intellectual guys were all after hot blondes with gooey lipstick and impressive cleavage, who never wore glasses and knew appreciably less than they themselves did (it works both ways).

  • Kiwiwriter

    Adam, I’m sorry you experienced bigotry and hatred for practicing your faith.

    I suspect that high school girls not dating you was mostly because high school girls in general tend to have the social skills (and claws) of leopards. The only boys they want to date are uniformly older guys with hot bodies, cool cars, iced beer in their trunks, and admission tickets to the best nightclubs.

    Maybe your experience will give you some empathy for Jews who get told that they have all the money in the world, blacks who are accused of being criminals by nature, and Latinos of being lazy.

    It works both ways.

  • Reynardine

    Adamhill and Adam (no hill), I would add that Stewart Udall and his brother Morris were both men worthy of the utmost respect, and none of us here old enough to remember them would ever speak badly of them because of their faith.

  • adamhill

    “I grew up Mormon in a small southern town, and experienced hate regularly. By girls who wouldn’t date me because of my faith, by people who asked how many wives I had, by people that made fun of me after attending the showing of “Godmakers” at the local Baptist Church. All of things were discrimnitory and hate-filled….but I bet the little crew of “HATE-POLICE” I listed above wouldn’t agree, because Mormons are evil because of their religious beliefs and ideaologies.”

    Adam, I think you’re absolutely wrong, and you have inadvertently isolated a key difference (of many) between those who are angered or troubled by bigotry (such as those regular posters on this blog whom you so scorn) and those who are bigots. Personally, I think a Mormon suffering abuse because of his or her faith is a victim of the same species of hate as a member of any other group who is suffering abuse because of membership in that group. I’d be surprised if any of the “hate police” you mock would, contrary to your expectation, support the kind of bigotry you describe; I’m guessing instead that they would think it’s basically stupid and destructive and evil. It’s interesting that your being a victim of such bigotry hasn’t made you more sympathetic toward “hate police”.

    Perhaps your sensitivity has taken this particular cast because of the Mormon church’s dicey history in relation to, say, blacks serving in higher church positions or its present positions toward gays. Whatever one’s reaction to these qualities might be, the church itself is not DEFINED by bigotry. (an aside: I’ve personally known Mormons who were basically the antithesis of bigots, even toward gays).

    Groups that are DEFINED by their promotion of bigotry are espousing pretty much the exact opposite of the “hate police” you deride. If they visit this site to insult, argue inanities, or troll, they are simply begging for derision. And there are plenty of regularly posting friends of this site who are happy to accomodate.

    Derision in itself however does not equal hate. Personally, I don’t even “hate” the reekingly rancid racists who visit to stir up trouble; I hope that they are on some level finding amidst the derision they predictably receive some nuggets of wisdom that might nudge them closer to reasonability and tolerance. Even if you’re living deep in a black cave, enchanted by shadows, there’s always a chance to see the light.

    The heart of the issue is bigotry and hatred directed at groups of people, especially because of fictional or distorted attributes of those groups.

  • Reynardine

    Perhaps Adam could use a couple of fig leaves about now, but, as it is winter even here, I have none to offer him.

    (Sorry- I had many more comments in mind, but they all flu away)

  • Ellen Myers

    This is the first time I’ve heard of the socalled “Christian Identiy” thing, but whatever someone calls themselves,
    if it isn’t in keeping with the teachings of Jesus Christ,
    it ISN’T Christian. Calling people like and/or their group
    “Christian”, demeans all people, including myself, who
    really are Christians.

  • aadila

    What Erika said.

    Adam, I don’t think you can claim bigotry even if she did reject you just for being Mormon. Dating is totally personal. It’s not like you didn’t get served at a restaurant or the police pulled you over for it.

    Don’t people get the right to date within their religion if they choose?

  • Erika

    Adam, i would be remiss in my responsibilities as one of the primary mean girls (at least according to those lovely minature Tootsie Roll Pops in the Men’s Rights Movement) here if i did not mock you for your first listed evidence of “hate” that you claim to have experienced.

    That is that girls refused to date you – allegedly because you are a Mormon

    Really, that is your “evidence” of hatred? That girls wouldn’t date you when you were high school?

    To me, it sounds like the statement “i will not date you because you are a Mormon” sounds suspiciously like “i will not date you because you are an insecure loser but try to come up with something to spare your feelings like religious conflict).

    And in any case, even assuming argumendo that a young woman refused to date you based upon your membership in the Mormon Church that is hardly evidence of hatred. In fact, i consider that to be evidence of prudence on the part of the girls because sorry, there are some really good reasons why a woman (especially a non-Mormon woman) would shun a practicing member of the Mormon religion. In fact, i consider a refusal to date a practicing/believing Mormon by a young woman to be extremely prudent move.

    Since you claim to have left the Mormon Church you are undoubtably aware that the Mormon Church is not exactly progressive in their view of women – in fact, regressive is a much more accurate description. Under the tenants of Mormonism, women are literally second class members. To have a guy subscribe to That entire “no birth control and have tons of children” thing is also a real turn off. The Mormon families i knew had a whole lot of children – ugh!

    Then you get to the more cult-like aspects of the Mormon Church. Let’s start with the fact that the Mormons have a record of putting extreme pressure on non-Mormons dating Mormons to convert. Especially if they get engaged and there is huge incentive for Mormons to marry within the Temple where non-Mormons are not even allowed to enter. i happen to have gone to school with a Mormon whose older brother married a young woman who was non-Mormon and converted. Her entire family was not allowed to attend the wedding. That type of shunning and cutting off from family besides being a real warning sign of abuse (and in fact constitutes abuse) is also the type of thing you’d see from the Moonies or The People’s Temple of Jim Jones or the Branch Davidians. Basically, cutting off non-Mormons who convert into the church from their familes is the very hallmark of a cult. Putting pressure on other people to convert and trying to gain conversions through high pressure tactics is also a hallmark of a cult.

    Much of the Mormon beliefs in fact are very similar to what you’d see in a cult – including paranoia, stockpiling supplies, cutting people off from non-Mormons, and exercising a high degree of social control (especially of women).

    Sorry, i don’t care how many millions of suckers there are in the Mormon Church – if it walks like a cult, talks like a cult, and acts like a cult, it is a cult. And the “Church of the Latter Day Saints” does all of those things. i wouldn’t date a Moonie or a Hare Krishna or anyone in a group which calls itself The Family either.

    So basically your claim is simply that girls found you repulsive and maybe to spare your feelings claimed it was due to you being a Mormon. And even if they did, so what. Its perfectly reasonable to date within your religion or at least refuse to date someone who belongs to a religion which has a history of pressuring people to convert (and then cuts off the people who convert from their former families and friends). Sorry, sweetie, but when it came to dating, it was most likely you which was the problem.

  • Gregory

    Now, let the bashing of me begin!

    Oh puh-leeze! Now showing, The Martyrdom of Saint Adam. Oh, the Humanity!

    Maybe you should get together with Sam and have a pity party.

  • Aron

    Adam,

    We don’t ‘hate’ anyone or anything (except for Brussels sprouts. But that’s a different kind of ‘hate’), we simply have extreme disdain for those who possess viewpoints we find absurd.

    We do not try to limit their ability to make their points; no we encourage it. But then you cannot criticize us for simply rhetorically destroying their ideas with sound logic.

    Not all opinions are equal or valid. And if you believe they are, I strongly ask you to consider reading beyond post-modernist philosophy.

  • aadila

    Adam,

    Unless you wish to be teased and taunted by mean girls, writers, lawyers, joke shop owners, and a terrible revolutionary hero whose name is seldom mentioned but oft saluted, you should be prepared to back up your affirmations with facts and argument.

    Specifically regarding Mormonism, having known many Mormons, having nothing against the practice of any faith, and being myself part of a religious minority in this country, it is extremely unlikely that I would engage in the kind of hate you refer to.

    Moreover, having spent considerable time reading the commentaries here and contributing to them on occasion, I find that objectively speaking, there may indeed be some collective resistance to a certain grouping of philosophies and political ideas that are presented here time and time again by people who seem to think their observations are one of a kind.

    Perhaps the most relevant example is one woman who wrote something along the lines of “Well I declare I have never seen such hate in my entire life!” She, like you, confused criticism of the heavy handed moralism and intrusion of religion in the political sphere with the practice of faith.

    We have here a group which includes Jews, Christians, Wiccans, Buddhists, athiests, heathens (that’s you Rey), straights, gays, whites, Asians, blacks, First Nations peoples, men, women, anarchists, socialists, pinkos, Log Cabin Republicans, verbose Kiwis, and undoubtedly many other forms of diversity I neglect to mention. We all seem to get along.

    So if you have something to say which is worthy of discourse please chime right in. But be prepared to back up your claims with facts, evidence, philosophy, legal knowledge, personal anecdote and a strong dose of humor. If you just come in here with a prognathous sneer and thumbing your nose, be prepared.

    We’ll make good sport of you.

  • Adam

    Hmmm…

  • Adam

    Eugene and Shane, I applaud your effort to try and make the point that SPLC and ESPECIALLY Gregory, aadila, Erika, Rey, Ruslan, Caleb A, CoralSea, (not all names on this post, but all alike, see other posts) that their own words, at times, are as hateful as the story they are commenting on. They have no tolerance for anyone’s opinion that isn’t the same as there opinion. All you have to do to see it, is go back and read old stories/posts where they attack with words, and belittle and tease and taunt anyone who stands up for what THEY believe in. I don’t care if your JasonAnnieEzra, you make valid points. Not all do I agree with, however, you are certainly enitled to your opinion. I just wonder why you waste your time on this particular Blog spot when clearly, the small group of people that do actually comment on here, are as intolerant as the people they read about, and you are arguing with the proverbial “wall”. You aren’t one of them, so they don’t like you……but it isn’t hate if they are the ones doing the hating, because they are a minority or someone who’s experienced discrimination or hate.

    I grew up Mormon in a small southern town, and experienced hate regularly. By girls who wouldn’t date me because of my faith, by people who asked how many wives I had, by people that made fun of me after attending the showing of “Godmakers” at the local Baptist Church. All of things were discrimnitory and hate-filled….but I bet the little crew of “HATE-POLICE” I listed above wouldn’t agree, because Mormons are evil because of their religious beliefs and ideaologies. I’m no longer Mormon, but I am an American, and I believe we are all created equal, and we should ALL treat one another with love, respect, tolerance, and understanding. This is not the place to read about such things as that!!

    Now, let the bashing of me begin!

  • swaneagle

    I lived in Stevens County off and on for over 30 years. In the ’90′s, the Kehoes were recruiting kids in Yep Kanum park in Colville and i went to hear Chevy speak. A human rights groups was formed to address the growing blatant presence of Christian Identity adherents who were quite public about their beliefs. I worked in the Upper Columbia Human Rights Coalition for most of it’s duration, including doing a human rights radio show they sponsored on the same local radio station that featured a Christian Identity show. I attended a “black helicopter meeting” at the Stevens County courthouse where several extremists, including Mark Reynolds, a very visible Christian Identity believer, advocated for the execution of Jews, race mixers, homosexuals and women who engage in illegal lust. A Posse Commitatus member named Sam Porter spoke as well saying “It’s not coloreds i hate, but their filthy stinking deeds”. From that day on i attended several other meetings including local 2nd amendment meetings where i gathered a significant pile of white supremacist materials. I also had a short wave radio at the time and listened to a Christian Identity program and sent for further information. I still have the murderous Christian Identity belief statement using the bible to justify the killing of Jews, race mixers and homosexuals.

    Sadly, the presence of a cultish community sanctioned by the late Pete Peters, a minister in this violent “faith, is well known in Colville. Several former “members” told me themselves about their experiences in this virulently racist compound on 500 acres along the Columbia River. I talked as well to a then current member. That was a very troubling and informative.

    I never have stopped paying attention to the deadly bigotry coming out of Stevens County. It truly rivals that of the Aryan Nations. Not only were the Kehoes killers or attempted killers, but Buford Furrow who opened fire on a Jewish community center in Los Angeles wounding 5 children, then shooting a FIlipino mail man to death, came from Colville. The man who placed a bomb along the MLK route almost 2 years ago also was from Stevens County.

    Stevens County is an area of numerous communities
    with such dangerous beliefs. The Ark is known locally as a center of white supremacy. I know of several people who wielded power in local politics who were Christian Identity adherents. This is a dangerous center of hate as far as i am concerned. I known of many people of color, including Colville Indians, who were attacked verbally by racists. Both my children who are mixed race were attacked by other kids calling them the n word. My daughter’s school had racist graffiti scrawled on her school grounds and buildings. We moved due to the attacks she was subjected to by high school aged kids and younger when she was in middle school. I am very knowledgable about the virulent racism of this region during the ’90′s and up til 2006 when we were forced to move due to the racism and lack of resolve in addressing it effectively. I still keep myself informed as it was where i have lived most of my life.

  • http://kbwilliams@pvtnetworks.net Kate

    Now we are getting into questions of “why are we here?”

    I say to that, who cares? We ought to be governed by a conscience that tells us to do no evil. Religion is an attempt to figure out the differences between good and evil.

    People who act out like criminals are damaged in some way and this character could actually have been damaged further by his military service.

  • MattJ

    Sounds like a movie, or at least a made for tv movie to me.

  • Michael Parker

    There are a lot of Whites that have been brainwash into this sort of thinking that the White race is superior. They should ask themselves, why would God make of race superior to another. You give everyone opportunity,which has not been done for the Black race,you would see that everyone is the same in learning.

  • Sharon

    He has saved the taxpayers money – thank goodness and good riddance. “Christian Identity” is deplorable.

  • aadila

    Shane,

    As has been pointed out before, the American justice system makes these sorts of differentiations all the time, for all kinds of misconduct, not just charges aggravated by racial, ethnic, religious or sexual animus. These standards, as I hope you would already know, are set by legislative action, and executed by prosecutorial decision. There is nothing arbitrary about that practice, as you seem to suggest.

    While it is true the original use of the word “bigot” was in a religious context, bigotry today is distinct from zealotry and fanatacism in that it is broadly understood to include intolerance for others’ immutable characteristics and not mere questions of conscience. To attempt to blur these lines for rhetorical purposes is at its root a fallacy by argument from ignorance. You may look that up if you don’t understand what it means.

    Bigotry does indeed originate from a state of mind, and bears superficial resemblance to religious fervor, but then again, so does any crime where intent must be determined. Determining intent is one of the hardest tasks of the prosecutor, because even with evidence it is impossible to say for certain what was in the mind of any individual without a full confession, and hence in criminal court there is the long tradition of reasonable doubt.

    Why that notion has somehow been transformed into an Orwellean “thought crime” bugaboo for the right wing is subject for a different debate and is rooted, most fundamentally, in cynicism, and is at cross purposes with the finalities of the justice system.

    You seem to argue that the white male who expects the elderly black female to rise from her seat on the bus are coming from equally defensible moral positions, i.e. both are bigots. However, this country which has decided the question already.

    Therefore your argument, apart from being morally bankrupt, lacks consequence. If you cannot tell poop from hot fudge, the problem is your own.

  • Shane

    Are you trying to amuse us, Weissman? The Bible is filled with the notion of God choosing a specific people, and telling that people to exterminate other peoples of the lands that *belonged* to the other people in the first place. The idea of “well, that is because they didn’t believe in the One True God” is false, because it was God that *chose* that one specific people to be the God to that people in the first place, to establish a covenant with that people, etc..

    Furthermore, anybody can play the quote game. You say that the Bible in particular says that God doesn’t behold evil, yet Isaiah 45:7 says:

    New International Version
    I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.

    King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
    I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

    Young’s Literal Translation
    Forming light, and preparing darkness, Making peace, and preparing evil, I am Jehovah, doing all these things.’

    Not interested in going back and forth with quotes, but to deny the Lord God of the Bible and suppant him with an All-Good Love God is not the least bit “scriptural”.

  • Tobias A. Weissman

    Religion of itself is a wonderful and beneficial system of good will to man. But like every thing else in this world, can be used incorrectly by teaching that God picked certain persons to be unlike him and therefore to be damned. All RUBBISH. For the Bible says explicitly that God doesn’t behold evil, which means evil was never created by God or condoned by God.

  • Shane

    Patsy, that would sound about right. If his parents were Mormon, as nobody is denying, then the supposed evil effect that Dual Seedline Christian Identity is alleged to have had on him is miniscule or in fact, non-existent. And as it was said above, it doesn’t appear that The Ark/Our Place Fellowship teaches the Two Seed Doctrine, and even then, I can’t find where Christian Identity teaches to go murder random people for no apparent reason, and “White people” at that.

    I don’t find anything truly “hateful” in what they teach about Jews. See link: http://www.sonplace.com/Xulon/Who_are_the_Jews.htm

    For instance, their belief that: “Today the word ‘Jew’ refers to a religion, not a race. The Jews of today are a mixture of races who practice a religion based on the Babylonian Talmud. This religion bears only a passing resemblance to the Old Testament religion of the Israelites.”

    And also: “The Jewish peoples of today may be great folks, it’s just that they are not the true descendants of ancient Israel. The religion of the ancient Israelites was based on “the law of Moses and the prophets.” According to a parable given by Jesus, those who originally heard the law of Moses and the prophets would later became Christians. The Jewish peoples of today came to Judaism only after ancient Israel had been conquered and disbanded by Assyria and Babylon. By that time the law of Moses had been superceded by the Talmud. These late-comers to Judaism never believed Moses and the prophets, and thus cannot be persuaded by Christianity today.”

    They do label “Jews” imposters however, believing that today’s Jews are called that because of their religion, not because their race, because Jews aren’t a race, there are Jews of every race united in their religion of Judaism.

    I don’t see how supposedly attending a Christian Identity church a few times with “fringe Mormons” will make somebody go out and kill random people, especially seeing that Wonder Russell in the group picture, closer than Israel Keyes probably ever got, went on to be a movie star! Awesome for her! :) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0751517/
    Group picture located here: http://www.sonplace.com/Our_Place/

  • Caleb A.

    If anyone is having a hard time defining what a hate crime or hate speech is. Let me tell you how esay it gets to define when it’s been directed toward somebody like it has been towards me on multiple occassions and it sure isn’t being done to me from a space of love. You can call in fanatacism, zealotry, bigotry or anything else you want. We all know hatred when we get to experience it first hand.

  • Patsy

    I knew the Keyes personally and they DID NOT ATTEND The Ark. In a small community, you go to a lot of things but don’t necessarily go to that church. They were VERY isolated and DIDN’T go to any church. They were fringe Mormons and believed very strongly in the Mormon faith. When Israel was about 8, our families met the Kehoes. Their family reached out to the Kehoes but they were not interested except for the occasional meeting, potluck, or party.

  • Shane

    Well, I have to disagree with your assessment that I am looking for some “secret failure” in people who oppose hate crimes and hate speech, but I must ask, who sets that standard? Who says what is a hate crime and what is not? I think we can both agree that no crime is done out of love, and even a “crime of passion” obviously is tainted. Why not call it a racially-motivated crime instead of a “hate crime” attaching emotion to it? If somebody goes out to *explicitly* attack somebody because of their race, gender, religion, etc.. then yes it is a biased crime and yes, it should be punished, as other crime.

    Bigotry itself is synonymous with fanaticism and zealotry, being obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and tolerance is the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.

    Every issue has those for and those against it. Jared Taylor is somebody I don’t follow.. I think labelling a belief-system a “pile of hot fudge” and another a “pile of poop” is kind of extreme, and as the definition goes, bigoted. When you start to think like that, you shut everything else out and don’t continue to grow.

  • aadila

    Shane you actually have to be tolerant first, to understand why tolerance and bigotry are fundamentally different. You seem to be looking at it from an arid distance, trying to point out some “secret” failure of people who oppose hate crimes and hate speech, and then by drawing a moral equivalent where there is none. A pile of hot fudge and a pile of poop have certain similarities. Can you tell the difference?

    Being tolerant does not mean allowing bigotry to go unchecked or without criticism. And it doesn’t mean acting like Jared Taylor.

  • Shane

    I agree, Sam. We are told that every individual human being has worth, that we should treat each other fairly, with dignity and respect. We don’t all have to like each other, but I see a cloaking of intolerance in the name of “tolerance” going on. How is kicking somebody down or trying to shut them up when they express an opinion that differs somewhat from one’s own a “tolerant” thing to do. The logic completely escapes me. All animals are equal, honey, just some more so than others. haha!

  • Gregory

    Yes, I meant JasonAnnieEzra, not JasonAnnieEvra. Getting used to the keyboard on this new device.

  • Sam Molloy

    I for one welcome all people on here. It is the cheapest entertainment I get and almost everyone has some valid points.

  • CM

    Actually, that’s “Jason/Annie/Ezra” as in:

    Ezra_mead said,
    on October 10th, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    I urge you to listen to some of Jared Taylor’s talks on youtube. Don’t you see how calm and reasoned his words are? Ca you see the rationality of what he says? My position matches that of Jared Taylor. That is the man I agree with and identify with.

    And this:

    Ezra_mead said,
    on September 26th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    This is stupid. The SPLC only publishes stories that match their worldview. Stories of the most extreme individuals. Then they try to link the story with their political opposition to create a false association.
    I could just as easily create a blog and print only stories that match my worldview. Then try to link my political opponents with the story to try to create a false association & paint them all as extremists.
    This is propaganda. Most people can see through it easily.

    And this:

    Jason Smith said,
    on May 1st, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    Mainstream media is very liberal. So another thing they do is screen out only those stories that match their world view. Stories of white people being attacked by blacks is something they rarely publish nationally. It doesn’t “fit”.

    So Eugene is clearly a new avatar for this same person or group, or else he’s channeling the same demon.

  • Shane

    Matt, you seem to have a lot of knowledge about the Christian Identity groups in your area, perhaps you could provide their names to the SPLC so they could be added to to the “hate group locator” list. When did “The Ark” change its name to “Our Place Fellowship”?

    Caleb, I doubt they are the same person. Reynardine suggested that I was part of their committee myself, which to be honest, I don’t have the slightest clue what kind of “committee” that is.

  • Caleb A.

    Gregory; You hit the nail right on the head and even if Eugene isn’t the same person he is probably a cohort in the same club as JasonAnnieEvra. People that hate the SPLC usually have a good reason and it isn’t about the SPLU. It’s about their own skeletons rattling in their closets.

  • Shane

    Who is JasonAnnieEvra, Gregory?

  • Gregory

    ” They publish stories that match their worldview. “

    That settles it. JasonAnnieEvra is back.

  • Eugene

    You are using a rhetorical tactic. You attempt to to link a particular crime to an ideology in this story. There is no linkage. You screen out all crimes in America, and publish only those stories that match your worldview. Then you write the story in a manner that matches social frame of reference. Your tactic is laughable.

    Other blogs do the same thing. The Council of Conservative Citizens routinely posts stories of white people being attacked by black criminals. So they are doing the same thing as yourself! They publish stories that match their worldview. They write the article, in a manner that fits with their social frame of reference. But at least they are countering the mainstream media, which rarely includes race when the attacker is black. The Color of Crime report, put out by American Renaissance, shows clearly that in the overwhelming number of inter-racial crimes, blacks are the perpetrator and whites the victim.

    I don’t see any difference between this blog, and the CofCC website. Content is different, worldview is different, but the approach is the same.

    I did some research on Alexia and found that the SPLC website is not even ranked in the top 300,000 websites in America. Virtually nobody is reading these stories you post. On the other hand, American Renaissance is ranked in the top 17,000. So their website is viewed by many more people. American Renaissance has a much wider audience. Jared Taylor has a very good writing style and I enjoy reading his essays.

    http://www.alexa.com/

  • Mark Potok

    No, the church in question (The Ark) is not British Israelite (British Israelites are PHILO-Semitic, not anti-Semitic). By its pastor’s own account to us, it is Christian Identity. I agree that it does not appear to be two-seed Identity (the most virulent strain), but it still very much regards Jews today as falsely claiming to be descended from the Hebrews of the Bible and an evil force on the earth. As to the meaning of Keyes’ exposure to Christian Identity, it’s not clear what importance that may have had. It’s true that Keyes’ victims do not appear to have been selected for racial or similar reasons. However, it may be that his upbringing in this incredibly hateful theology did have some kind of an effect on him. We just don’t know.

    Mark Potok

  • Craig

    To complete special asset’s thought on the Highway of Tears. The Highway of Tears refers to the east-west Yellowhead Highway in Canada, which starts or, ends in Prince Rupert. There are numerous unsolved murders of First Nation Women along that highway between the coast and Prince George. There is one suspect who had been aprehended but it isn’t clear that it is only one person. Lots of crazy people in this world.

  • Special Asset

    This serial killer may had been involved in some of the unsolved murders related to the infamous “Highway of Tears”. Detectives should try to find a correlation.

  • Shane

    From the looks of it, it appears that the church he *might* have attended believes in British Israelism, not Dual Seedline Christian Identity as this blog post says/implies. However, why exactly would his religious beliefs be important in this case, did he go target racially-mixed couples or something? Especially seeing that his parents are said to have been Mormon.