The Future does not bode well for any of us, if this keeps up!

Shane, I am certain there are people here who find you psychiatrically interesting.

You’re absolutely correct in stating that the murders weren’t racially motivated, and I believe that if they were, the SPLC would have more ground to stand on, but in my opinion, they don’t. Especially making *two posts* about the same story, citing “more links” when there really exists none.

But I can’t agree with all that you wrote about Christian Identity. It is obvious you have a very low opinion of it. My opinion would be more of trying to understand it. It’s easy to say White Supremacist Racist Hate Cult and be done with it, but I don’t do that. I like studying peoples, cultures, religious groups, etc.. There are some things that are odd, such as God being married to Israel yet Israel also being the firstborn of God, yet I can’t pass them off as all being stupid retards because they aren’t. And I don’t think Christian Identity can be appropriately labeled a “cult”. They have no single leader, nor are their leaders considered “God on earth” or anything.

And also, thanks concernedcitizen. It is good you are concerned! It shows you care. :)

Presumably, you’re suggesting that because Keyes’ murders don’t seem to have been racially motivated, his connections with the racist nonsense known as Christian Identity are irrelevant. But on the contrary, Keyes’ case is evidence that Christian Identity has an inherent appeal to the seriously deranged. I’m inclined to suspect that the most vocal advocates of it don’t believe it at all, but are simply using it as a way to attract the most crudely primitive religious believers to the white supremacist movement.

In general, it seems to me that genuine belief in Christian Identity must reflect an abysmal ignorance of the Bible, of history, of science and of human nature. The grotesque anachronism of retrojecting 19th-century racial pseudoscience onto a 2,000-year-old religious text is just the beginning of the absurdities of this cult. Skimming through the Bible and taking verses out of context and applying one’s secret magic decoder ring to turn them into references to the sacredness of “whiteness” is nothing but a game, and a thoroughly stupid one.

Yes, I am the wife of a man doing life.There are SO many stories of the “Kehoe” family. I know what Chevie’s beliefs were back then but he is NOT that way anymore.
I do believe in his innocence. He is no angel. I know that… but he did NOT commit those horrific crimes that he is serving life for.

I do not condone his past actions… but that is just my opinion.

He has told me what he did back then…
(re: his views & beliefs on such)
He also says… “the only good thing about prison is that it taught him so much that he did not know before.”

He does associate w/ his family. From what I’ve experienced personally… some are a bit scary. Again, that’s from my own personal experience.

I was looking to meet & talk to anybody who knew Chevie personally.

In no way am I looking for trouble or any kind of problems.

ty much…

It is not the goal of society to determine if people are secretly racist. Racism can be eliminated by talking about what it means, banning racial discrimination, punishing hate crimes, and properly teaching schoolchildren about the problem of racism.

If someone secretly harbors some racist belief but consistently treats all fellow citizens with due respect and does not discriminate, it doesn’t matter.

Oh, but the truth is, you really don’t, do you. You’re just as racist and black-hating and obsessed with “race-mixing” as ever, as your further post shows.

I like this: “Because someone could always be a secret racist, harboring racist ideas in their mind, acting out on those thoughts only in secret.” Fine. I have no problem with that. Nor does anybody else…there are people who think Elvis Presley is alive, that flying saucers caused sinkings in the Bermuda Triangle, and that the opposing results of the 1978 and 1981 World Series are proof that the Messiah is coming. You can think anything you want in the United States, and say it, too. Nobody here’s shutting down Stormfront or VNN or your idol, Jared Taylor.

Go ahead, be as racist as you want. Hell, you’ve told us many times that you could easily set up a web page to oppose SPLC and spout your world views. So why don’t you? Go ahead…make that html page, find that webserver (there are plenty of them), put up your theories, and come back here and share with us the link. Put your intellect and money where your keystrokes are. Of course, you never do…you just come here and whine that we’re all Communists…

What we’re concerned about is when the people who turn these theories into vicious action to harm others. When their fists hit my nose (or someone else’s), we have a duty to take action.

And free speech doesn’t mean that we just stand there and applaud. We have the right to free speech, too. And free speech means that if we don’t like what you say or think, we’re going to tell you what we think of you. Like I’ve said before, when Carl Pavano comes to Yankee Stadium…he gets booed. When Bobby Bonilla, Vince Coleman, or Bret Saberhagen come to Shea Stadium, they get booed. They screwed up in public, said and did reprehensible things, didn’t play ball well…they get booed.

So you spout drivel in public, you’ll get booed. Don’t like it? Tough. Life is hard. Get a batting helmet.

And about the “race-mixing,” I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, mostly to scare off people who read your stuff and might think you’re a sage: has any federal official or employer descended into your basement, and ordered you on pain of perjury, prison, or death, to marry a girl of another ethnic group, and raise a baseball team of kids for the New World Order? Anybody passing such legislation? Anybody making it a job requirement for a job for someone with your abilities, like Burger King? No?

Hey, a guy with a Ph.D. who teaches science at an un-named university should know that.

But, be that as it may, Ezra/Jason/Annie/Eugene, all you’re worth is a re-run:

Hey, Ezra/Jason/Annie/Eugene: You’re getting snotty little comments back at you, because YOU STARTED THEM! And no, you’re not a fake. We don’ t think you’re a fake. Distorted, stupid, idiotic, a cut-and-paster, dumb, a spouter of silly ideas, a coward, a fool, condescending, whiney, smug, a troll, a cretin, a misguided individual, a waste of the talents God gives to people, not armed with the good sense God gave maggots, an embarrassment to white people, someone who needs a real life and to get out of his parents’ basement, signed up with a silly cause, pathetic, entertaining, hilarious, and the biggest source of laughs on this site outside of Bungalow Boob.

For example, Ezra/Jason/Annie/Eugene, do you remember, a few blog entries ago, demanding all kinds of information from us for those “profiles” you were building? You asked for our sexual preferences, our arrest history, our debt levels, and our resume for the past 10 years.

Now, you never made those profiles, didn’t tell us what it was all for, heck, you didn’t even give us an e-mail address or a mailing address where we were supposed to send our resumes for the past 10 years to! Where was I supposed to send that, Goofy? Fascists-Are-Us? Care of the Obseralzberg?

And how about some of the other idiotic statements you’ve made? Take a look below. Remember spouting them? Do you expect us to give you even the slightest droplets of respect when you come out with such clangers? When you don’t answer our requests for proof and to back up your idiocies?

We treat people who give childish and puerile outbursts around here with exactly what they deserve: snappy answers to stupid questions. No more, no less.

That’s all you get, because that’s all you’re worth. As Corinthians says, it’s time you put away childish things. Don’t like the world? Tough. Live in it. The world didn’t turn out the way you wanted? Tougher. Get a helmet.Not happy that “minorities” are outnumbering whites? Go marry a girl who looks like Linda Evans, complete with shoulder pads, and raise a baseball team of kids on a compound somewhere, with like-minded looney tunes, totally separated from the real world, and see how long that lasts before it starts falling down from incompetence and paranoia. Nobody’s stopping you. Nobody even cares.

Until you get a clue, and get some help, and start asking real questions, seeking real answers, all you will get around here will be derision and re-runs. That’s all you’re worth. To us, you’re just entertainment.

So in that vein, here comes my standard re-run for you.

Annie/Jason/Ezra/Eugene lives in a nice little house, right next to reality.

I gotta tell you, though, this is a lot funnier than Bungalow Boob…he hasn’t shown up lately. I miss him.

So Annie/Jason/Ezra/Eugene, what happened with those profiles you were building of all the members of this forum? When are you going to create that web page with your worldview and your biting, incisive, well-researched analysis?

Anyway, here’s my stock response to Annie/Jason/Ezra/Eugene, just so that I can be “as constant as the Northern Star:”

Annie/Jason Smith/Ezra Mead/Eugene is back again!

Complete with revolving sex changes…here strictly to derail the discussion!

So, Annie/Jason/Ezra Mead…do tell us how the Holocaust never happened!

Then tell us how the Russian people greeted their Nazi invaders with flowers!

Then tell us how Norman Rockwell sided with Hitler!

Then show us your proof that the white man is superior to the black man!

And tell us again how you’ll prove it to us, only if we pay you vast sums of money, showing that you’re into neo-Nazism and junior Fascism for that noblest of purposes…the money!

Show us that Ph.D. you earned from Diplomas-R-Us University!

Show us your great Dissertation: “Springtime for Hitler: A Gay Romp With Adolf and Eva At Berchtesgaden!”

Then you can give us citations and evidence for all these wacky ideas!

Until then, the tumbrels await for you!

See? I don’t even have to think in dealing with him/her/it…I just cut-and-paste my own stuff!

I still miss Bungalow Boob, though.

The Thurm be with you, Jason/Annie/Ezra.

And when are you going to do that profile of us?

To build a society that eliminates racism, it would require a massive police state. First, It’s really impossible to ever determine conclusively if someone is a racist. You would have to invent a machine that reads people’s minds. There would have to be a government police agency with a file on every citizen, reading their minds continuously in real time and data logging the result. Because someone could always be a secret racist, harboring racist ideas in their mind, acting out on those thoughts only in secret.

It’s about what race people perceive someone to be and how they then behave based on that perception. Obviously, a racist like yourself believes in some idealized version of “white people” and (conveniently) count yourself as a member.

Either you already know this and are just a filthy troll, or you don’t know it, and you’re a moron. Which is it?

You claim Israel Keyes follows ‘white supremacy’. Now I demand you define ‘white’. If you cannot, then there’s no such thing. This is all a delusion.

Certainly, nothing in Israel Keyes’ behavior would link him to Dual Seedline Christian Identity. His three known victims, Samantha Koenig and a Vermont couple, Vermont couple, Bill and Lorraine Currier. All three are White, as is Keyes, which would not square with someone responsive to DSCI. Keyes confessed to five other murders before his suicide, but the victims have not been identified. It seems like the SPLC has seen an opportunity to stir up more hatred against Christian Identists.

Moral for young people — don’t be a “hotshot.”