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	<title>Comments on: Imprisoned FLDS ‘Prophet’ Predicts the End of the World — Again</title>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/12/19/imprisoned-flds-prophet-predicts-the-end-of-the-world-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1087894</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James, I don&#039;t think Peter was expressing bigotry. 

I can understand your sensitivity on the matter but having been carpet-bombed with Mormon propaganda over the recent political campaign myself, I think it is reasonable for people who do not accept your beliefs to speak up about it. 

You may not see it this way, but Internet ads about Mormonism popping up everywhere during the Romney campaign politicized your religion. So, there is a political rejection in response. It goes both ways.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I don&#8217;t think Peter was expressing bigotry. </p>
<p>I can understand your sensitivity on the matter but having been carpet-bombed with Mormon propaganda over the recent political campaign myself, I think it is reasonable for people who do not accept your beliefs to speak up about it. </p>
<p>You may not see it this way, but Internet ads about Mormonism popping up everywhere during the Romney campaign politicized your religion. So, there is a political rejection in response. It goes both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: concernedcitizen</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/12/19/imprisoned-flds-prophet-predicts-the-end-of-the-world-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1079408</link>
		<dc:creator>concernedcitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 00:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One head pedophile and the rest bestow power upon him because he was leading them into  a make believe legal world of pedaphilia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One head pedophile and the rest bestow power upon him because he was leading them into  a make believe legal world of pedaphilia.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Mankin</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/12/19/imprisoned-flds-prophet-predicts-the-end-of-the-world-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1078347</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Mankin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 22:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Correction...
The FLDS compound known as the YFZ Ranch is actually four miles north of Eldorado, Texas in rural Schleicher County. Also, Warren Jeffs received one life sentence for the sexual assault of the 12 year old girl. He was sentenced to 20 years for the 15 year old girl. The judge ordered the sentences to be served consecutively. 
His conviction in Utah was overturned when an appeals court found the judge did not properly instruct the jury.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction&#8230;<br />
The FLDS compound known as the YFZ Ranch is actually four miles north of Eldorado, Texas in rural Schleicher County. Also, Warren Jeffs received one life sentence for the sexual assault of the 12 year old girl. He was sentenced to 20 years for the 15 year old girl. The judge ordered the sentences to be served consecutively.<br />
His conviction in Utah was overturned when an appeals court found the judge did not properly instruct the jury.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/12/19/imprisoned-flds-prophet-predicts-the-end-of-the-world-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1077584</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter,

My initial reason for posting in response to you above was not to defend my religion. Although I can see how you might have misunderstood me. I&#039;ve found that arguing online about religion is a proven waste of time, and I have absolutely no interest in doing so. 

I instead was attempting to ask you to drastically tone down the bigoted methodology you use to spread your opinion. Whether you or I are &quot;right&quot; about this particular subject of the LDS church is not important right now. What *IS* important is the bigotry you are displaying that is highly inappropriate and (especially within the SPLC website) hypocritical. 

The SPLC is an amazing organization that does it&#039;s best to combat hate. Anyone who actually believes that they are doing good in the world should try to emulate the SPLC&#039;s ideas. Since you are posting here I&#039;m assuming you agree? This applies to both right-wing hatred that is displayed in this &quot;Hatewatch&quot; blog, as well as radical left-wing bigotry against religion that I continually read on the Internet. Of which you quite definitely are exhibiting.

So please, may I ask that you take a good look at HOW you are expressing your views. I personally very much agree that in many cases your WHY is quite valid - many vile and hate-filled things have been said over a pulpit for example. And I will definitely stand next to you and strongly denounce their hate for what it is. 

However, I would ask that you please don&#039;t construe your justifiable passion against their bigotry and hatred as an excuse for your own personal brand of bigotry and hatred. There are unfortunately a lot of excuses you can use to hate organized religion, I agree. But there are also far too many people who use very similar excuses to hate Jews, blacks, gays and women. 

Please don&#039;t be one of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>My initial reason for posting in response to you above was not to defend my religion. Although I can see how you might have misunderstood me. I&#8217;ve found that arguing online about religion is a proven waste of time, and I have absolutely no interest in doing so. </p>
<p>I instead was attempting to ask you to drastically tone down the bigoted methodology you use to spread your opinion. Whether you or I are &#8220;right&#8221; about this particular subject of the LDS church is not important right now. What *IS* important is the bigotry you are displaying that is highly inappropriate and (especially within the SPLC website) hypocritical. </p>
<p>The SPLC is an amazing organization that does it&#8217;s best to combat hate. Anyone who actually believes that they are doing good in the world should try to emulate the SPLC&#8217;s ideas. Since you are posting here I&#8217;m assuming you agree? This applies to both right-wing hatred that is displayed in this &#8220;Hatewatch&#8221; blog, as well as radical left-wing bigotry against religion that I continually read on the Internet. Of which you quite definitely are exhibiting.</p>
<p>So please, may I ask that you take a good look at HOW you are expressing your views. I personally very much agree that in many cases your WHY is quite valid &#8211; many vile and hate-filled things have been said over a pulpit for example. And I will definitely stand next to you and strongly denounce their hate for what it is. </p>
<p>However, I would ask that you please don&#8217;t construe your justifiable passion against their bigotry and hatred as an excuse for your own personal brand of bigotry and hatred. There are unfortunately a lot of excuses you can use to hate organized religion, I agree. But there are also far too many people who use very similar excuses to hate Jews, blacks, gays and women. </p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t be one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/12/19/imprisoned-flds-prophet-predicts-the-end-of-the-world-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1077506</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right, Mitch. 

It must be the work of the little man who shuts the light off in the refrigerator after you close the door.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Mitch. </p>
<p>It must be the work of the little man who shuts the light off in the refrigerator after you close the door.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch Beales</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/12/19/imprisoned-flds-prophet-predicts-the-end-of-the-world-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1076746</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch Beales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 19:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The world has ended each and every time it has been predicted and an omnipotent god has created a new world identical in every detail at precisely the moment that the world ended.  Prove I&#039;m wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world has ended each and every time it has been predicted and an omnipotent god has created a new world identical in every detail at precisely the moment that the world ended.  Prove I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/12/19/imprisoned-flds-prophet-predicts-the-end-of-the-world-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1076133</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lets deal with the facts
* december 23rd is smiths birthday - check
* Smith created mormonism - check
* all three cults, FLDS, LDS and RLDS trace their roots back to Smith - check
[incidentally, RLDS are not &#039;hate filled&#039;.... they dropped polygamy as soon as they broke away from the LDS, and are generally a gentler, nicer version of mormonism]
* smith made many erroneous and wild prohecies .... check [check D&amp;C 111 for just one of many, MANY failed prophecies]
* Smith married child brides - Helen Marr Kimball was 14, Fanny Alger was 16, Nancy Winchester was 15
* I admit I speculated about the reason behind Jeffs making this prophecy at this time..... but I dont see how that affects you, since you are LDS Mormon, rather than FLDS Mormon

please point out where I made any vile comments since all the above comments can be easily upheld, aside from the speculation about jeffs motives]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lets deal with the facts<br />
* december 23rd is smiths birthday &#8211; check<br />
* Smith created mormonism &#8211; check<br />
* all three cults, FLDS, LDS and RLDS trace their roots back to Smith &#8211; check<br />
[incidentally, RLDS are not 'hate filled'.... they dropped polygamy as soon as they broke away from the LDS, and are generally a gentler, nicer version of mormonism]<br />
* smith made many erroneous and wild prohecies &#8230;. check [check D&amp;C 111 for just one of many, MANY failed prophecies]<br />
* Smith married child brides &#8211; Helen Marr Kimball was 14, Fanny Alger was 16, Nancy Winchester was 15<br />
* I admit I speculated about the reason behind Jeffs making this prophecy at this time&#8230;.. but I dont see how that affects you, since you are LDS Mormon, rather than FLDS Mormon</p>
<p>please point out where I made any vile comments since all the above comments can be easily upheld, aside from the speculation about jeffs motives</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/12/19/imprisoned-flds-prophet-predicts-the-end-of-the-world-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1074954</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, Peter, I want to make sure I get this straight: 

On a web site dedicated to removing hatred from the public sphere; and on a blog called &quot;Hatewatch&quot; which tries to point out the extremism, hatred and bigotry of those who follow these vile practices, you angrily call out the main LDS church as a cult and vilify it as &quot;mormon nuttery&quot; by tying it to the obviously hate filled breakaway sects with absolutely no proof for your statement, other than their names are similar. 

As a member of the main LDS church, may I respectfully suggest that you please read a bit more on what the rest of the SPLC site says about bigotry. You might learn not to react so quickly to unproven biases, but to think things through and do a bit of research before bringing your vile comments to a public area and causing pain to others who have done nothing to you. 

Merry Christmas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, Peter, I want to make sure I get this straight: </p>
<p>On a web site dedicated to removing hatred from the public sphere; and on a blog called &#8220;Hatewatch&#8221; which tries to point out the extremism, hatred and bigotry of those who follow these vile practices, you angrily call out the main LDS church as a cult and vilify it as &#8220;mormon nuttery&#8221; by tying it to the obviously hate filled breakaway sects with absolutely no proof for your statement, other than their names are similar. </p>
<p>As a member of the main LDS church, may I respectfully suggest that you please read a bit more on what the rest of the SPLC site says about bigotry. You might learn not to react so quickly to unproven biases, but to think things through and do a bit of research before bringing your vile comments to a public area and causing pain to others who have done nothing to you. </p>
<p>Merry Christmas.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/12/19/imprisoned-flds-prophet-predicts-the-end-of-the-world-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1074566</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dec 23 is the birthday of Jeffs spiritual predecessor, Joseph Smith Junior... the founder of the three Mormon cults (LDS, FLDS and RLDS)

Like Jeffs, Smith was prone to making wild prophecies, and also taking child brides.

I expect it&#039;s the coincidence of Smithmas (Smith&#039;s birthday) and the Mayan nonsense that has led to this latest piece of mormon nuttery]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dec 23 is the birthday of Jeffs spiritual predecessor, Joseph Smith Junior&#8230; the founder of the three Mormon cults (LDS, FLDS and RLDS)</p>
<p>Like Jeffs, Smith was prone to making wild prophecies, and also taking child brides.</p>
<p>I expect it&#8217;s the coincidence of Smithmas (Smith&#8217;s birthday) and the Mayan nonsense that has led to this latest piece of mormon nuttery</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/12/19/imprisoned-flds-prophet-predicts-the-end-of-the-world-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1072628</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is so sad isn&#039;t so much as this fruit cake-we expect dangerous people in any society--but the hoards of followers who gave him this kind of power. America is screwed up beyond comprehension.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is so sad isn&#8217;t so much as this fruit cake-we expect dangerous people in any society&#8211;but the hoards of followers who gave him this kind of power. America is screwed up beyond comprehension.</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/12/19/imprisoned-flds-prophet-predicts-the-end-of-the-world-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1065007</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That throat-slitting business is no joke. It&#039;s exactly what the Lafferty brothers did to their sister-in-law and their tiny niece.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That throat-slitting business is no joke. It&#8217;s exactly what the Lafferty brothers did to their sister-in-law and their tiny niece.</p>
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