All that comment sounded to me was ‘I’m a self-righteous weasel who will die alone.’

And I doubt that’s what you meant to write. Is it?

I’ve heard Brock Henderson make more coherent statements, and that’s saying something.

Another a thank goodness for Google, it’s like living in a middlin’ good library 24/7 and this time saved me from unknowingly popping off what some seem to consider derogatory terms for an Irish man to the general set when I mean a more modest proposal to the individual I knowingly use bog irish in reference to (perfidious albion and your damnable protestant winds)
The third principality, the seconds flunky throughout much of u.s. history and her major conflicts and general oddness, like counting room floors that break, Bankers asking Bilbo’s riddle conteste fini with no soothing oil for troubled waters Simon says passingover this sangre de cristo stained stream of consciousness once over and half back again to Euler’s jolly smile, The Treaty of Paris (an object lesson in how to loose a war already won… take too long to sign it), but a shield I’ve read of made some brilliant “Trading Places” like actions, or how did the administrations that issued greenbacks and silver certificates, the whole not the half, but that mammon of old has some practical value to those who insist on some magic in that paper that some how makes it not Monopoly (a grand game at the scale of a nation of around 350 million souls when there can be only one) but “gold swap orders” outta the city of london (not part of London nor England, with gold quality swaps particularly indicative of the same exchange method as a coin on Yap. When that government seizure someone had… can’t remember who’d do such to their own, mortgage hold…. HEY! Oh wait! Pardon me, outsider here… why in the world would I own anything… it’s about control and what you need and how long one must wait verses the cost of having a can of Yams available to you 24/7/365 and why it’s a great gift I’m about to give you knowing that the real effects come from a million and one small miracles of freewill where heaven say that glass is half full and so it is than the huge risk of throwing it all on the water walk thing which isn’t so much the over the top tricks so difficult to preform as it is the near impossibility of controlling the audiences reactions to the “trick” and ask Brian about how rough that can turn out… I’ll ask George.

When we had the revolution, the people (by international law meant rulers) where sovereigns without subjects. Throughout history and [at common law] there are only two types of people, free and subject. Free is sovereign, subject is inferior. Now, post-revolution, again, the people e.g. The states, were the sovereign, and by international law they were recognized because they established a monetary power, military power, trade, and most important subjects. YOU CAN NOT BE A SOVEREIGN by pre and post revolution definitions unless you meet that criteria. A citizen can not be sovereign because that power was [vested] to another, a “people” e.g. A state. Your sovereign also acting as a republic ruler, was vested power to make their own laws for their own subjects, by the authority expressly given to them by who?? Their subjects and acting for the subjects so long as it was not repugnant to the constitution. Unfortunately, with so much disinformation and miss-construing of the law, all “sovereign citizens” (oh by the way at common law – which you profess to use, subjects is synonymous with citizen) are [acting] on [legal fictions] and hypocritically against the very [legal fictions] of law they speak against. Need to do more research of you want to do it it rigt

Because I, too, have voices in my head that tell me what to do. And they tell me to burn things. That must be God, right?

All human beings are sovereign unto themselves the moment they are born. There are only two events in life which one has utterly no control over, getting born and getting dead, everything in between is on the individual. All human beings have the right of self determination and all human beings must not only make choices but accept the consequences of them.

Our government as is true of any government on earth exists only by the consent of the governed. All governments devised by man can be corrupted, infiltrated, destroyed and altered simply by reason of the apathy and inattention of the governed. The blame for the corruption and slavery we suffer today on an increasing level is at our feet, by our lack of personal responsibility and ignorance even if that ignorance has been by design. The reason our founders rejected a Democracy as the model for our nation is that they studied the history of it. “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican
Form of Government…” The United States Constitution, Article IV, Section 4. (Republican does not mean political party or “conservative”.)
Democracy is mob rule. Mob rule always leads to destruction when those who do not agree with the brute are forced to comply. Democracy is ALWAYS a mere stepping stone to one form of Dictatorship or another. Democracy is a Fox in charge of the hen house, the chickens don’t last long and pretty soon the Fox runs out of chickens to produce more chickens… “other peoples money” comes to mind. In a Republic all voices are equal and the Fox will get his say balanced by the voice of the chicken and any controversy will be settled fairly by all facts being known, weighed and decided.

No man is any other man’s keeper and no man has the right to dictate the belief, faith or personal choices of another. Most important, no group of people has the right to force their views on another.

Elections? There hasn’t been a lawful election in more decades than I have been alive. The programmers of the common Die Bold machines used in the elections testified before congress that not only were they designed to be rigged they were in fact rigged. Add to that the massive number of precincts around the country reporting voting by the dead, voting by illegal aliens, machines counting votes opposite of the choices made and even Acorn workers admitting they were voting for others and voting multiple times. Add to that gerrymandering and there is not even a semblance of lawful elections left. Elections are nothing more than illusions now to keep the indoctrinated pacified.

I am certainly not in favor of anarchy and I am not anti government. What I am is anti corruption in all its forms. The only possible solution to the corruption we face today is education and truth. That is exactly why our true history is kept from us, our media has become a political machine and we are kept divided by party, race, gender and class. Division can only serve the masters not us. Opinions mean NOTHING only truth can solve anything and that takes diligence and active effort on the part of the people to discover it. The Fox is not about to give the chickens the means to defeat his agenda and the chickens will surely end up in the soup.

Another thing the Fox is extremely good at is re-defining words for his own interests…. the word sovereign has been redefined by rhetoric for agenda just as so many others have… for instance the commerce clause in the Constitution… it says the federal government can regulate commerce AMONG the states NOT WITHIN THEM… you will not find a dictionary which existed at the time the Constitution was written which defines AMONG to mean WITHIN… see how cleverly they change our perceptions?

TLGA: Under our Constitution, the citizens are *joint* sovereigns. We govern by consensus. We elect representatives to carry out the business of governing. Any given one of us holds a three hundred millionth part of that sovereignty. No one citizen gets to declare himself the whole sovereign. That would make him a dictator, which most of the rest of us joint sovereignty holders don’t like.

If Turner wants to fight the laws of the United States then he must do it within the system that is recognized by the people who have it in place. He is not the Government.

Just because a bunch of yahoos decide one day in the forest that they want to be “the government” one that was not elected does not mean they have those powers vested in them.

Therefore, when they go around and try to push and enforce their make believe powers it is most likely they will end up in jail, or at the end of many lawsuits.

What I really hate to read about are these older people who have been taken in by this foolishness and have now had their lives adversely affected by nothing more than fraud behind the machiavellian leader who would lead them into greatly troubled waters and then abandon them when they are picked up by the troops of the United States.

And Judas invests.

WAKE UP, AMERICA!

WAKE UP, WORLD!

JESUS SAVES! REPENT!

MAY GOD SAVE THE REPUBLIC!

Maybe consider turning down the volume? It seems to have scrambled what little brains you had.

That said, the ridiculous interpretations and blanket judgments of so called “sovereigns” on this site is nothing short of glaring proof of the success of the deliberate dumbing down of America.

To make a general statement about all sovereign people is no different than saying all republicans want to murder Grandma and all Democrats want to spend her out of her house and dump her on the street! When conquering a nation division is key and we are joyfully allowing the division all day every day.

The word sovereign has been deliberately bastardized now to include anyone who believes in our constitution, our Republic (we are not a Democracy and for very good reason), anyone who bothers to do the research necessary to discover the true nature of our so called federal government now and so forth. The truth and all of the truth is easy to find if one simply exercises a little study and due diligence. Every public office is a corporation registered on Dun and Bradstreet but why would you take somebody else’s word for that? Go look. While you’re at it look up the congress and the leaders of congress… nuff said.

The point is we are all sovereign under our form of Constitutional Republic, that just means that we are supposed to be self governed, not fascist, communist, or oligarch governed. Those of us out here who understand, study and fight to keep the last of the God Given rights we were born with are now labeled as the enemy while the rest of you throw words at each other and let the real enemy strip you of all you have left.

Turner is a crook and a crackpot and those who blindly follow him are destined to remain slaves to any idiotic effortless remedy placed before them… just look at where many of them are flocking now… the OPPT! Talk about addicted to slavery.

America is the last bastion of freedom such as it has become, on earth and if we the people don’t wake the hell up to what is going on we will be no more.

We have sovereigns running around making up their own ideals and realities and harming police officers. I fail to see where harming police officers is helping to keep the peace.

Stuart, were you hitting the corn whiskey before you wrote that scrambled post above?

There is another definition that I believe should go hand in hand with the post you shared:

CULT:

5 a : great devotion to a PERSON, IDEA, object, movement, or work (as a film or book) ; esp: such devotion regarded as a literary or INTELLECTUAL FAD b : the object of such devotion c : a usu. small group of people characterized by such devotion

We simply must not divorce ourselves from our critical thinking skills based on the fact that we find the man or woman speaking from pulpit in front of us mesmerizing.

Just because a child picks up a law book and reads it does not mean that he has the ability and qualifications to practice law.

Although I admit it would be terribly cute and entertaining to see an eight year old in a nice Armani suit complete with leather briefcase as he tried to drag it into the court room. And then to watch him have to climb up and down from the chair in order to address the court would be something that great comedies might be made from.

Or to raise an objection before the judge while dancing back and forth because he needs a potty break, yes this thought is very amusing. However, it becomes less amusing when it is a grown man pulling these antics and now the people he has dragged along the path of his blind stupidity are going to need to do hard time. Furthermore, he does not come across to me as any great leader when his underlings come to him and tell them that they are now being indicted for trying to pass the bad paper he wrote them and his response is, “I’m sorry to hear that.”

It is true that it is far better to read and learn about the law than to remain completely ignorant of it. However, it is necessary to not only read but to have professionals train you and guide you on it’s application, argumentation, and interpretation that is acceptable by a court of law.

@ Aron, What grounds could this man possibly appeal under? Well, I’m sure they might dig something up.

However, I agree with Aron I don’t think an appeal will work because it appears that they have hard, admissible evidence and plenty of damaged witnesses…

That’s what appeals are for. But considering the man is guilty as sin, I doubt an appeal will go very far.