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	<title>Comments on: Oath Keepers ‘Patriot’ Group May Sponsor NASCAR Prince</title>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-2/#comment-2320461</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 19:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I do sometimes call my adorable dog Bones &#039;Bealzebones,&#039; so you may not be so far off course, Aadila.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I do sometimes call my adorable dog Bones &#8216;Bealzebones,&#8217; so you may not be so far off course, Aadila.</p>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-2/#comment-2313838</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 13:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You never know, Erika. Aron _might_ have a demon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You never know, Erika. Aron _might_ have a demon.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-2/#comment-2289122</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 15:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[aadila, i was just about ready to point out that additional clarity on what sort of &quot;role playing games&quot; were involved before realizing that according to Jack T. Chick all of them (especially the scandalous ones) would qualify as evil ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aadila, i was just about ready to point out that additional clarity on what sort of &#8220;role playing games&#8221; were involved before realizing that according to Jack T. Chick all of them (especially the scandalous ones) would qualify as evil ;)</p>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-2/#comment-2213029</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 23:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like I said, Aron. Exceptional individuals, courageous ones, all draw hangers on. Consider their attention confirmation of your glory. Their whole life is so meaningless they have to go after the Internet Man. But I must warn you. Role playing games can land you in the company of demons for all eternity. At least that&#039;s what Erika said. HAW HAW HAW.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said, Aron. Exceptional individuals, courageous ones, all draw hangers on. Consider their attention confirmation of your glory. Their whole life is so meaningless they have to go after the Internet Man. But I must warn you. Role playing games can land you in the company of demons for all eternity. At least that&#8217;s what Erika said. HAW HAW HAW.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-2/#comment-2207142</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 18:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aadila, it was a local news site, and some commenters decided to take it upon themselves to dig up some (not terribly) salacious details about my life to smear me.

I once engaged in role-playing games? How scandalous!

Basically, they read my FB account. And made asses of themselves.

People are idiots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aadila, it was a local news site, and some commenters decided to take it upon themselves to dig up some (not terribly) salacious details about my life to smear me.</p>
<p>I once engaged in role-playing games? How scandalous!</p>
<p>Basically, they read my FB account. And made asses of themselves.</p>
<p>People are idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-2/#comment-2203146</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 14:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d point out that the First Amendment guarantees the right of *peaceable * assembly only. It protects neither armed riot nor the imminent threat of it, express or implied.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d point out that the First Amendment guarantees the right of *peaceable * assembly only. It protects neither armed riot nor the imminent threat of it, express or implied.</p>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-2/#comment-2202583</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 13:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aron,

Can you share any details of the cyberstalking you have suffered? I understand if you cannot, but I am quite certain you are not the only person in this forum who has been targeted for harassment/stalking because of your views. I think Rey had some problems and I have had them.

I wonder if the SPLC might expand its aegis to include legal protections and support for victims of cyberstalking, since a lot of the organized hate in America goes after individuals for expressing their views against hate. There are some new laws and new technologies always being developed that can help identify and punish your harassers, but I feel the problem of online harassment against individuals is large enough it requires the funding and capabilities of a large group like the SPLC. 

Keep in mind that just because there is not a technology today to track them (and there might be), does not mean that tomorrow they will avoid being brought into criminal or civil court for what they have done today.

As a word of encouragement, great invididuals always attact hangers-on and nobodies. The fact that anyone would consider your ideas a threat to the point they would stalk and harass you merely shows their impotence and your strength. It also shows the government is not doing enough to protect political speech in cyberspace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aron,</p>
<p>Can you share any details of the cyberstalking you have suffered? I understand if you cannot, but I am quite certain you are not the only person in this forum who has been targeted for harassment/stalking because of your views. I think Rey had some problems and I have had them.</p>
<p>I wonder if the SPLC might expand its aegis to include legal protections and support for victims of cyberstalking, since a lot of the organized hate in America goes after individuals for expressing their views against hate. There are some new laws and new technologies always being developed that can help identify and punish your harassers, but I feel the problem of online harassment against individuals is large enough it requires the funding and capabilities of a large group like the SPLC. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that just because there is not a technology today to track them (and there might be), does not mean that tomorrow they will avoid being brought into criminal or civil court for what they have done today.</p>
<p>As a word of encouragement, great invididuals always attact hangers-on and nobodies. The fact that anyone would consider your ideas a threat to the point they would stalk and harass you merely shows their impotence and your strength. It also shows the government is not doing enough to protect political speech in cyberspace.</p>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-2/#comment-2202115</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 13:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John,

There are strong opinions here, that&#039;s not hate. I challenged you to support your claims and you did not rise to the challenge. I am not going to &quot;look up&quot; some factoid or falsehood you are citing; if you want to convince me, show me the proof.

The fundamental issue is not the moral fiber of the Oath Keepers. In my experience most military personnel are extremely ethical in conduct and honorable people. Police usually go into law enforcement for the same reasons, and as long as they respect the RIGHTS which are the basis upon which all laws stand, they also tend to adhere to high standards of professionalism.

The fundamental problem is the establishment of a zealot parallel power among the military/police class, organized to &quot;step in&quot; to oppose the will of the People. This can only be considered an arbitrary and tyrannical entity. I repudiate your invitation to &quot;tell the Oath Keepers&quot; what the People want. That is why we have Congress and an elected Executive. We don&#039;t want or need a parallel power in America, and we sure as heck don&#039;t need YOU with your hare brained ideas to stand in the way of the legitimate public power.

That you fear democracy itself and oppose the Judiciary&#039;s just and correct function within our legal system is yet another reason for the Justice Department to start crashing down around you people and hauling you in as needed to ensure the public safety. At the very least, you should all should be monitored very closely for the clear menace you represent to our institutions.

We don&#039;t want the stirrings of military dictatorship in America. We have a CIVILIAN at the head of our military for a reason. The military must always be kept on a tight leash to ensure a free state.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>There are strong opinions here, that&#8217;s not hate. I challenged you to support your claims and you did not rise to the challenge. I am not going to &#8220;look up&#8221; some factoid or falsehood you are citing; if you want to convince me, show me the proof.</p>
<p>The fundamental issue is not the moral fiber of the Oath Keepers. In my experience most military personnel are extremely ethical in conduct and honorable people. Police usually go into law enforcement for the same reasons, and as long as they respect the RIGHTS which are the basis upon which all laws stand, they also tend to adhere to high standards of professionalism.</p>
<p>The fundamental problem is the establishment of a zealot parallel power among the military/police class, organized to &#8220;step in&#8221; to oppose the will of the People. This can only be considered an arbitrary and tyrannical entity. I repudiate your invitation to &#8220;tell the Oath Keepers&#8221; what the People want. That is why we have Congress and an elected Executive. We don&#8217;t want or need a parallel power in America, and we sure as heck don&#8217;t need YOU with your hare brained ideas to stand in the way of the legitimate public power.</p>
<p>That you fear democracy itself and oppose the Judiciary&#8217;s just and correct function within our legal system is yet another reason for the Justice Department to start crashing down around you people and hauling you in as needed to ensure the public safety. At the very least, you should all should be monitored very closely for the clear menace you represent to our institutions.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t want the stirrings of military dictatorship in America. We have a CIVILIAN at the head of our military for a reason. The military must always be kept on a tight leash to ensure a free state.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-2/#comment-2168104</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 20:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gregory, you beat me to it.

And John, considering what many of your compatriots were writing about me on Patch.com, you really aren&#039;t in any position to criticize my attacks.

It was your people who cyber-stalked me. Not the other way around.

And as I said all along, if you feel your rights were broken, sue the Town of Lexington. The First Amendment allows for civil redress of grievances with the government.

If you decide not to exercise that right, it&#039;s hardly my problem.

And one more thing: when your Right to Keep and Bear Arms infringes upon my rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness, then we&#039;ve got a problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregory, you beat me to it.</p>
<p>And John, considering what many of your compatriots were writing about me on Patch.com, you really aren&#8217;t in any position to criticize my attacks.</p>
<p>It was your people who cyber-stalked me. Not the other way around.</p>
<p>And as I said all along, if you feel your rights were broken, sue the Town of Lexington. The First Amendment allows for civil redress of grievances with the government.</p>
<p>If you decide not to exercise that right, it&#8217;s hardly my problem.</p>
<p>And one more thing: when your Right to Keep and Bear Arms infringes upon my rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness, then we&#8217;ve got a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiwiwriter</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-2/#comment-2167386</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiwiwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 18:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Democracy is dangerous to liberty because it only requires 51 percent to wrest control of the levers of power to manipulate and control the other 49%. Think of how dangerous you would claim that to be if “my people” ever got to be the 51 %. Ironically, if we did, you would experience the greatest freedoms you have ever had and would be the most secure, prosperous and happy people ever to live, because we would never allow you to be controlled by a minority or a majority period. Why all the hate and distrust?&quot;

John, first off, I don&#039;t hate you. Never have, never will. I think your ideas are silly and narrow, but I don&#039;t &quot;hate&quot; them or you.

And as for if your &quot;51 percent&quot; took power, it already has, and the result was slavery, child labor, racial segregation, women as second-class citizens, monopoly capitalism, sweatshops, and the military-industrial complex. How has this made the nation secure, prosperous, or happy.

We have the largest prison population of any nation in the world...I guess they&#039;re secure.

And on &quot;hate and distrust,&quot; aren&#039;t you the one always throwing out that we are &quot;ASSuming&quot; things about you? More importantly, if you&#039;re so annoyed at how we argue with you, I&#039;d like to point out, nobody put a .357 S&amp;W to your skull and ordered you on pain of death, imprisonment, or having to watch reruns of &quot;My Mother, the Car&quot; to come here and bellow at us.

You come here, spout silly stuff, don&#039;t expect us to gaze upon it with awe, wonder, and reverence...you can expect folks to fire back with varying degrees of irritation and anger at your tone, style, and content. Our First Amendment is as strong as yours. And if you&#039;re annoyed with it, go elsewhere.

We object to people who call for armed revolt, armed violence, acts of violence towards others on the basis of ethnicity or sexual orientation, and practice such acts, and manifest hatred towards others on the basis of ethnicity or sexual orientation.

Personally, I further object to those who engage in such activities and public behaviors out of cynical and self-serving motives, deliberately lying to themselves, their followers, the law, and their God. I feel pity for people who act out their innermost torments by espousing membership and committing misdeeds and evils in the name of seditious or hateful ideologies. I feel anger towards people whose acts lead to their victims enduring personal pain, fear, suffering, and death. Many people died to rid the world of Nazism and its worship of destruction, genocide, and kleptomania. I therefore resent ignorant people who, 70 years later, publicly support its ideologies and seek to rehabilitate it.

I can&#039;t speak for all of us, but I can pretty well guarantee that most of us are not going to follow you around just to argue with you...go and live your life, have pleasant time, and God be with you. I wish no harm upon you, and only ask that as you go through life, you practice the central tenet of Judaism: &quot;What is hateful to yourself, do not do unto another. The rest is commentary. Go and study.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Democracy is dangerous to liberty because it only requires 51 percent to wrest control of the levers of power to manipulate and control the other 49%. Think of how dangerous you would claim that to be if “my people” ever got to be the 51 %. Ironically, if we did, you would experience the greatest freedoms you have ever had and would be the most secure, prosperous and happy people ever to live, because we would never allow you to be controlled by a minority or a majority period. Why all the hate and distrust?&#8221;</p>
<p>John, first off, I don&#8217;t hate you. Never have, never will. I think your ideas are silly and narrow, but I don&#8217;t &#8220;hate&#8221; them or you.</p>
<p>And as for if your &#8220;51 percent&#8221; took power, it already has, and the result was slavery, child labor, racial segregation, women as second-class citizens, monopoly capitalism, sweatshops, and the military-industrial complex. How has this made the nation secure, prosperous, or happy.</p>
<p>We have the largest prison population of any nation in the world&#8230;I guess they&#8217;re secure.</p>
<p>And on &#8220;hate and distrust,&#8221; aren&#8217;t you the one always throwing out that we are &#8220;ASSuming&#8221; things about you? More importantly, if you&#8217;re so annoyed at how we argue with you, I&#8217;d like to point out, nobody put a .357 S&amp;W to your skull and ordered you on pain of death, imprisonment, or having to watch reruns of &#8220;My Mother, the Car&#8221; to come here and bellow at us.</p>
<p>You come here, spout silly stuff, don&#8217;t expect us to gaze upon it with awe, wonder, and reverence&#8230;you can expect folks to fire back with varying degrees of irritation and anger at your tone, style, and content. Our First Amendment is as strong as yours. And if you&#8217;re annoyed with it, go elsewhere.</p>
<p>We object to people who call for armed revolt, armed violence, acts of violence towards others on the basis of ethnicity or sexual orientation, and practice such acts, and manifest hatred towards others on the basis of ethnicity or sexual orientation.</p>
<p>Personally, I further object to those who engage in such activities and public behaviors out of cynical and self-serving motives, deliberately lying to themselves, their followers, the law, and their God. I feel pity for people who act out their innermost torments by espousing membership and committing misdeeds and evils in the name of seditious or hateful ideologies. I feel anger towards people whose acts lead to their victims enduring personal pain, fear, suffering, and death. Many people died to rid the world of Nazism and its worship of destruction, genocide, and kleptomania. I therefore resent ignorant people who, 70 years later, publicly support its ideologies and seek to rehabilitate it.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t speak for all of us, but I can pretty well guarantee that most of us are not going to follow you around just to argue with you&#8230;go and live your life, have pleasant time, and God be with you. I wish no harm upon you, and only ask that as you go through life, you practice the central tenet of Judaism: &#8220;What is hateful to yourself, do not do unto another. The rest is commentary. Go and study.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-2/#comment-2166322</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 17:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Take a deep breath, John. Paragraph breaks are your friends.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a deep breath, John. Paragraph breaks are your friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-2/#comment-2166307</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 17:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John, you&#039;re the one who comes here spewing scorn and contempt. It&#039;s public mobs of open-carry drum -bangers who impinge on the first amendment rights of  all who disagree with you, and it&#039;s entirely reasonable that this is your intent. I can clearly remember six decades of political developments at home and abroad, and I promise you that. this kind of armed braggodaccio wasn&#039;t tolerated for five of them. Nobody means to infringe on your genuine liberties, but damned if we will allow anyone to use the implicit menace of violence to infringe on ours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, you&#8217;re the one who comes here spewing scorn and contempt. It&#8217;s public mobs of open-carry drum -bangers who impinge on the first amendment rights of  all who disagree with you, and it&#8217;s entirely reasonable that this is your intent. I can clearly remember six decades of political developments at home and abroad, and I promise you that. this kind of armed braggodaccio wasn&#8217;t tolerated for five of them. Nobody means to infringe on your genuine liberties, but damned if we will allow anyone to use the implicit menace of violence to infringe on ours.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-2/#comment-2165311</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 15:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and aron, my first amendment rights were severely impeded on April, 19th. A good man lost over 3,000 dollars on non refundable fees paid out to make the non event possible, which is bad enough. The Lexington police were very accommodating and some of them actually said they loved us.  They understand, or some of them do, who the good guys are and who means the country and their fellow citizens harm. Here is a clue, it isn&#039;t those good men and women, white,black, gay or straight Christian, Jew, Muslim, atheist or other, who swore,and continue to reaffirm their pledge to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. It isn&#039;t your fellow citizens who believe in truth, justice and freedom for ALL not just some special group or elite individuals. You really ought to reconsider your hatred and begin to reassess your position in life if you truly believe what I claim we believe. If you do not believe these things, as I and my fellow Oath Keepers do, that is fine, just be honest with us and tell us what you really envision for America. We can have that debate, I am not afraid. You will never catch me up in a lie about my beliefs. The truth is easy to recite time and time again without ever contradicting ones self. Only the guilty fear the truth. So who are you aron, and what do you really believe? Not what do you believe about Oath Keepers or my posts, what do YOU believe about fredom, rights, the Constitution, how America should look in the future? What laws do you support? What is in your heart about the eternal truths of the universe?  please ,let us know who you are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and aron, my first amendment rights were severely impeded on April, 19th. A good man lost over 3,000 dollars on non refundable fees paid out to make the non event possible, which is bad enough. The Lexington police were very accommodating and some of them actually said they loved us.  They understand, or some of them do, who the good guys are and who means the country and their fellow citizens harm. Here is a clue, it isn&#8217;t those good men and women, white,black, gay or straight Christian, Jew, Muslim, atheist or other, who swore,and continue to reaffirm their pledge to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. It isn&#8217;t your fellow citizens who believe in truth, justice and freedom for ALL not just some special group or elite individuals. You really ought to reconsider your hatred and begin to reassess your position in life if you truly believe what I claim we believe. If you do not believe these things, as I and my fellow Oath Keepers do, that is fine, just be honest with us and tell us what you really envision for America. We can have that debate, I am not afraid. You will never catch me up in a lie about my beliefs. The truth is easy to recite time and time again without ever contradicting ones self. Only the guilty fear the truth. So who are you aron, and what do you really believe? Not what do you believe about Oath Keepers or my posts, what do YOU believe about fredom, rights, the Constitution, how America should look in the future? What laws do you support? What is in your heart about the eternal truths of the universe?  please ,let us know who you are.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-2/#comment-2165108</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 15:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aadilla and Aron, Why are you guys proclaiming such hateful stuff? I have read most of the other posts here and the Oath Keepers and those who support them have seemed to be very measured and even keeled. The splc folks seem to be attacking us with hate and vitriol. I don&#039;t understand why you choose to believe that we are aho splc says we are but give no deference to our own comments. I am curious as to why you both feel the need to attack us viciously and spew hatred at us,and call us liars. I have fought for years for the rights of both gay and straight to be left alone to pursue their happiness without interference by the government( aka other citizens under color of law). I have a great debt of gratitude for a black man in my past, who helped me see the potential in my future and set me on the right path as a wonderful mentor,God bless him. I had a very dear friend in high school who was gay and I loved him dearly as a friend, not as a lover, because I am not gay, just different. That never stoped me from caring for him as a great human being. As to the scotus amending the Constitution, well, no, they have not actually amended it. What they did was a defacto (look it up) amendment in many cases and very adhoc to boot. But to zero in on just one such instance, the second amendment is very much so defacto amended by court and legislative action and thus, usurped by government or in some cases, majority rule. This is dangerous to not only my second amendment rights but to all civil rights, including the right to marry who ever you want. Democracy is dangerous to liberty because it only requires 51 percent to wrest control of the levers of power to manipulate and control the other 49%. Think of how dangerous you would claim that  to be if &quot;my people&quot; ever got to be the 51 %. Ironically, if we did, you would experience the greatest freedoms you have ever had and would be the most secure, prosperous and happy people ever to live, because we would never allow you to be controlled by a minority or a majority period. Why all the hate and distrust?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aadilla and Aron, Why are you guys proclaiming such hateful stuff? I have read most of the other posts here and the Oath Keepers and those who support them have seemed to be very measured and even keeled. The splc folks seem to be attacking us with hate and vitriol. I don&#8217;t understand why you choose to believe that we are aho splc says we are but give no deference to our own comments. I am curious as to why you both feel the need to attack us viciously and spew hatred at us,and call us liars. I have fought for years for the rights of both gay and straight to be left alone to pursue their happiness without interference by the government( aka other citizens under color of law). I have a great debt of gratitude for a black man in my past, who helped me see the potential in my future and set me on the right path as a wonderful mentor,God bless him. I had a very dear friend in high school who was gay and I loved him dearly as a friend, not as a lover, because I am not gay, just different. That never stoped me from caring for him as a great human being. As to the scotus amending the Constitution, well, no, they have not actually amended it. What they did was a defacto (look it up) amendment in many cases and very adhoc to boot. But to zero in on just one such instance, the second amendment is very much so defacto amended by court and legislative action and thus, usurped by government or in some cases, majority rule. This is dangerous to not only my second amendment rights but to all civil rights, including the right to marry who ever you want. Democracy is dangerous to liberty because it only requires 51 percent to wrest control of the levers of power to manipulate and control the other 49%. Think of how dangerous you would claim that  to be if &#8220;my people&#8221; ever got to be the 51 %. Ironically, if we did, you would experience the greatest freedoms you have ever had and would be the most secure, prosperous and happy people ever to live, because we would never allow you to be controlled by a minority or a majority period. Why all the hate and distrust?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Molloy</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-2/#comment-2099953</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Molloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 22:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lenard, there are several books that explain how in the world anyone can be Christian and accept Homosexuality. One is called &quot;Take Back the Word&quot;. Jesus never spoke about it, but had plenty to say to the self righteous, pious hypocrites of that and all generations. As for being open about who we are, we are surrounded by an ambient straightness that just gets on our nerves sometimes. Let me show you a picture of my cat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lenard, there are several books that explain how in the world anyone can be Christian and accept Homosexuality. One is called &#8220;Take Back the Word&#8221;. Jesus never spoke about it, but had plenty to say to the self righteous, pious hypocrites of that and all generations. As for being open about who we are, we are surrounded by an ambient straightness that just gets on our nerves sometimes. Let me show you a picture of my cat.</p>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-2099886</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 22:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aron&#039;s right. The Constitution is a living document, much as the right wing would like to kill it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aron&#8217;s right. The Constitution is a living document, much as the right wing would like to kill it.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-2098272</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 14:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John, the Constitution IS a living document. That&#039;s why it was written in such vague terms. And that&#039;s why judicial review exists.

I&#039;m fairly certain I&#039;ve sparred with you on other forums. And you&#039;ve shown me just how capricious the &#039;Oaf Beaters&#039; really are: when your little protest was delayed for two weeks in my hometown, you declared THE END OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT!

Go cry to Stewie. He&#039;ll make everything better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, the Constitution IS a living document. That&#8217;s why it was written in such vague terms. And that&#8217;s why judicial review exists.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m fairly certain I&#8217;ve sparred with you on other forums. And you&#8217;ve shown me just how capricious the &#8216;Oaf Beaters&#8217; really are: when your little protest was delayed for two weeks in my hometown, you declared THE END OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT!</p>
<p>Go cry to Stewie. He&#8217;ll make everything better.</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-2097970</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 14:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lenard Smith, you do not appear to be keeping much to yourself, least of all your fear that homosexuals want to shove their lifestyles down your throat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lenard Smith, you do not appear to be keeping much to yourself, least of all your fear that homosexuals want to shove their lifestyles down your throat.</p>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-2097864</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 14:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way &quot;John&quot; your claims about SCOTUS do not fit objective reality. Can you cite any examples of where the Supreme Court amended the Constitution? I&#039;ll save you the trouble of scrambling around to justify your comments. You can&#039;t, because it has never happened nor could it ever happen. In trying to tear down the judiciary, it is pretty clear that like most right wing radicals, you hate America.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way &#8220;John&#8221; your claims about SCOTUS do not fit objective reality. Can you cite any examples of where the Supreme Court amended the Constitution? I&#8217;ll save you the trouble of scrambling around to justify your comments. You can&#8217;t, because it has never happened nor could it ever happen. In trying to tear down the judiciary, it is pretty clear that like most right wing radicals, you hate America.</p>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-2097803</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 13:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;We don’t care who you are or what you look like or who you sleep with as long as you pledge to protect the rights of everyone equally under the Constitution.&quot;

Sorry, John that isn&#039;t your perogative. You are usurping the public authority for private interests, such as tyrants have always done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We don’t care who you are or what you look like or who you sleep with as long as you pledge to protect the rights of everyone equally under the Constitution.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, John that isn&#8217;t your perogative. You are usurping the public authority for private interests, such as tyrants have always done.</p>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-2097771</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 13:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lenard Smith, you seem to forget that homosexual people ARE the public. The other thing you seem to not quite understand is that the only reason why it ever became necessary to ACT UP/ACT OUT is because people like you support compulsory heterosexuality through the wall of silence. Though you may not consider yourself a hater, you are actively contributing to hatred by attempting to shame others for being who they are and the way God created them. If you want to preach silence and minding your own business, you might start by practicing what you preach, thou pharisee.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lenard Smith, you seem to forget that homosexual people ARE the public. The other thing you seem to not quite understand is that the only reason why it ever became necessary to ACT UP/ACT OUT is because people like you support compulsory heterosexuality through the wall of silence. Though you may not consider yourself a hater, you are actively contributing to hatred by attempting to shame others for being who they are and the way God created them. If you want to preach silence and minding your own business, you might start by practicing what you preach, thou pharisee.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-2069204</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 18:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, oath breakers is how it should have read. fat fingers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, oath breakers is how it should have read. fat fingers.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-2069198</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 18:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Erika, (posted above) is ALSO correct. Oath Keepers  would not impose those things she has remarked about. Therefore, those who do those things/ violate the Constitution are not oath keepers but oath BRAKERS! and are roundly condemned by real Oath Keepers. &quot;right wing&quot;  or &quot;left wing&quot; , does not matter to an oath keeper, ONLY the Constitution and it&#039;s first principles matter, only law which is made &quot;in pursuance thereof&quot; as in Article 6, sec. 2. states. The Constitution is not &quot;living&quot; it is a set of hard and fast rules, able to be be amended by the lawful process of amendment or article five convention. NOT by supreme court decisions or false legislative acts which change the behavior of law enforcement and judges under COLOR of law. ( false law/ null and void on it&#039;s face) . Real oath keepers are just as upset as Erika at ANY violation of the Constitution and the rights of man ( duh, and woman) and any race, sex,  creed, etc. under the sun. We actually have black, Jewish, gay, female etc. members. We don&#039;t care who you are or what you look like  or who you sleep with as long as you pledge to protect the rights of everyone equally under the Constitution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erika, (posted above) is ALSO correct. Oath Keepers  would not impose those things she has remarked about. Therefore, those who do those things/ violate the Constitution are not oath keepers but oath BRAKERS! and are roundly condemned by real Oath Keepers. &#8220;right wing&#8221;  or &#8220;left wing&#8221; , does not matter to an oath keeper, ONLY the Constitution and it&#8217;s first principles matter, only law which is made &#8220;in pursuance thereof&#8221; as in Article 6, sec. 2. states. The Constitution is not &#8220;living&#8221; it is a set of hard and fast rules, able to be be amended by the lawful process of amendment or article five convention. NOT by supreme court decisions or false legislative acts which change the behavior of law enforcement and judges under COLOR of law. ( false law/ null and void on it&#8217;s face) . Real oath keepers are just as upset as Erika at ANY violation of the Constitution and the rights of man ( duh, and woman) and any race, sex,  creed, etc. under the sun. We actually have black, Jewish, gay, female etc. members. We don&#8217;t care who you are or what you look like  or who you sleep with as long as you pledge to protect the rights of everyone equally under the Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-2069099</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 18:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sam Malloy ( posted above ) is correct. An Oath Keeper WOULD protect ALL Americans from even a &quot;crazed right wing&quot; administration and any and all laws ( such as DOMA) that conflict with the Constitution and an individuals human rights as codified or recognized by our Constitution. mark potock is so wrong headed about Oath Keepers, he bites his own nose to spite his face. We are not partisan, we can&#039;t stand bushes policies either. I should know, I am the R.I. state education director for the R.I. Chapter of Oath Keepers. Don&#039;t listen to mark any more, has no credibility. This comment will probably  be deleted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam Malloy ( posted above ) is correct. An Oath Keeper WOULD protect ALL Americans from even a &#8220;crazed right wing&#8221; administration and any and all laws ( such as DOMA) that conflict with the Constitution and an individuals human rights as codified or recognized by our Constitution. mark potock is so wrong headed about Oath Keepers, he bites his own nose to spite his face. We are not partisan, we can&#8217;t stand bushes policies either. I should know, I am the R.I. state education director for the R.I. Chapter of Oath Keepers. Don&#8217;t listen to mark any more, has no credibility. This comment will probably  be deleted.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-2068509</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 16:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello all. I stand corrected, it is martial law, not marshall. I must apologize to all for my incorrect use of the word. Thank you Gregory. I was not intending to fear monger anything or anyone, so if I did, I apologize for that as well.  Just making a point that martial law can happen if WE let it, not saying it will.  

Thank you Aron for setting the facts straight on what happened in Boston and surrounding areas. Shows how easy it is to make assumptions with incomplete or incorrect information from the many various sources of information, or worse, to create (as in the case of some groups out there) a version of &quot;truth&quot; that they want the people to see. You are correct in searching for a person of interest. I&#039;ve done it a time or two, but not in the U.S. and what the Constitution states, one has to be careful not to move into the realm of infringing on people&#039;s rights. 

Concerned Citizen, point taken with Hitler leading those easily lead by being a more aggressive fool. I wonder just how many of the citizens in 1930&#039;s and 40&#039;s Germany really thought what he was saying was the truth and believed it with all their heart. 

Never did I state I belong to this group. What I did state is that I took an oath when I enlisted, commissioned, and started working for the government. Just like everyone else who joins as a LEO, military, or government employee (hence why this group targets these people - they&#039;ve taken an oath that 95% of the population doesn&#039;t and probably never will).

I have researched into the group and won&#039;t join. I don&#039;t like spending money on a group when I don&#039;t know where my money is going. I do like their ideals, but like any group on the Right OR Left, what they intend and how they actually conduct business are typically completely different. 

Take care everyone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all. I stand corrected, it is martial law, not marshall. I must apologize to all for my incorrect use of the word. Thank you Gregory. I was not intending to fear monger anything or anyone, so if I did, I apologize for that as well.  Just making a point that martial law can happen if WE let it, not saying it will.  </p>
<p>Thank you Aron for setting the facts straight on what happened in Boston and surrounding areas. Shows how easy it is to make assumptions with incomplete or incorrect information from the many various sources of information, or worse, to create (as in the case of some groups out there) a version of &#8220;truth&#8221; that they want the people to see. You are correct in searching for a person of interest. I&#8217;ve done it a time or two, but not in the U.S. and what the Constitution states, one has to be careful not to move into the realm of infringing on people&#8217;s rights. </p>
<p>Concerned Citizen, point taken with Hitler leading those easily lead by being a more aggressive fool. I wonder just how many of the citizens in 1930&#8242;s and 40&#8242;s Germany really thought what he was saying was the truth and believed it with all their heart. </p>
<p>Never did I state I belong to this group. What I did state is that I took an oath when I enlisted, commissioned, and started working for the government. Just like everyone else who joins as a LEO, military, or government employee (hence why this group targets these people &#8211; they&#8217;ve taken an oath that 95% of the population doesn&#8217;t and probably never will).</p>
<p>I have researched into the group and won&#8217;t join. I don&#8217;t like spending money on a group when I don&#8217;t know where my money is going. I do like their ideals, but like any group on the Right OR Left, what they intend and how they actually conduct business are typically completely different. </p>
<p>Take care everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Lenard Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-2062286</link>
		<dc:creator>Lenard Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 21:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I certainly support NOT booing the President, his wife, the Vice and his wife....
That said - HOW IN THE NAME OF GOD COULD ANYONE OF THE CHRISTIAN FAIITH SUPPORT ABORTION AND
HOMOSEXUALITY and think they are correct for doing so?
This comment has NOTHING to do with hate in any manner, it is simply a reflection of a conservative person. if what homosexuals do in their bedrooms is none of anyone&#039;s business THEN WHY DO THEY TRY TO RAM IT DOWN THE PUBLICS THROAT? Every time we read the paper or hear the News ANOTHER GAY WANTS TO ANNOUNCE THEMSELVES! Give it a break people AND KEEP YOUR LIFESTYLE TO YOURSELVES - I DO.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly support NOT booing the President, his wife, the Vice and his wife&#8230;.<br />
That said &#8211; HOW IN THE NAME OF GOD COULD ANYONE OF THE CHRISTIAN FAIITH SUPPORT ABORTION AND<br />
HOMOSEXUALITY and think they are correct for doing so?<br />
This comment has NOTHING to do with hate in any manner, it is simply a reflection of a conservative person. if what homosexuals do in their bedrooms is none of anyone&#8217;s business THEN WHY DO THEY TRY TO RAM IT DOWN THE PUBLICS THROAT? Every time we read the paper or hear the News ANOTHER GAY WANTS TO ANNOUNCE THEMSELVES! Give it a break people AND KEEP YOUR LIFESTYLE TO YOURSELVES &#8211; I DO&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Molloy</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-2052138</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Molloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 22:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jose, it would be correct to boo the President, if you disapprove of his actions, and thank God for our Constitution that assures that right. To boo the First Lady  and her daughter was totally uncalled for. I believe it was also a preplanned occurrence, not a spontaneous event.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jose, it would be correct to boo the President, if you disapprove of his actions, and thank God for our Constitution that assures that right. To boo the First Lady  and her daughter was totally uncalled for. I believe it was also a preplanned occurrence, not a spontaneous event.</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-2050709</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 18:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jose, you are allowed to spit on the sidewalk, and people who see you do it just might not feel like inviting you to dinner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jose, you are allowed to spit on the sidewalk, and people who see you do it just might not feel like inviting you to dinner.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-2049445</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 16:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Jose,

It is certainly within your rights to boo Mrs Obama and Mrs Biden. No one is going to stop you from making a fool of yourself.

But don&#039;t expect us not to call you on it.

We aren&#039;t as ignorant as you are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jose,</p>
<p>It is certainly within your rights to boo Mrs Obama and Mrs Biden. No one is going to stop you from making a fool of yourself.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t expect us not to call you on it.</p>
<p>We aren&#8217;t as ignorant as you are.</p>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/04/29/oath-keepers-patriot-group-may-sponsor-nascar-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-2049369</link>
		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 16:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave, of course the Constitution can change. There are two ways this can happen, either by a petition of 2/3s of the state legslatures or by 2/3s of both houses. It&#039;s in Article 5, wisely put there by the framers.

The only thing that can&#039;t change (unless Article 5 is itself amended first) is the right of equal suffrage for the states in the Senate, as far as I know.

Of course, now that the right of habeus corpus is meaningless in this country, thanks to the &quot;Patriot Act&quot;, it does seem rather questionable whether any of the rights in the Constitution have any value. Habeus corpus, dating back to the Magna Carta, is the right of rights upon which all other rights stand.

The history of democracy is filled with examples where rights have been suspended by force majeure (i.e. military rule or executive authority). That is exactly why so many people are alarmed by the &quot;Oath Keepers&quot;. We don&#039;t want a parallel power taking shape.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, of course the Constitution can change. There are two ways this can happen, either by a petition of 2/3s of the state legslatures or by 2/3s of both houses. It&#8217;s in Article 5, wisely put there by the framers.</p>
<p>The only thing that can&#8217;t change (unless Article 5 is itself amended first) is the right of equal suffrage for the states in the Senate, as far as I know.</p>
<p>Of course, now that the right of habeus corpus is meaningless in this country, thanks to the &#8220;Patriot Act&#8221;, it does seem rather questionable whether any of the rights in the Constitution have any value. Habeus corpus, dating back to the Magna Carta, is the right of rights upon which all other rights stand.</p>
<p>The history of democracy is filled with examples where rights have been suspended by force majeure (i.e. military rule or executive authority). That is exactly why so many people are alarmed by the &#8220;Oath Keepers&#8221;. We don&#8217;t want a parallel power taking shape.</p>
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