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Erika,

Unless the mentally ill spontaneously self-identify on their federal background questionnaire for handguns, there appears to be nothing standing in the way of their getting a gun in America.

Basically what the right wing wants is for gun buyers to “self regulate”, so that mentally ill, drug addicts, convicts, wife beaters, and other such unsuitable gun owners (all on their own!) step up and do the right thing which is to reveal their disqualifications when deciding to purchase a weapon. The gun seller is then supposed to say, oh, paranoid schizophrenic? Crack addict on a bender? Violent criminal record? Sorry, sir I am really not supposed to transfer this gun to you. Maybe you can come back when you feel better.

As we have seen, self regulation works as well among gun owners as it does in the financial sector.

hey, maybe you can send along the cameras and have some episodes of “Cops” or create a new reality show to be shown on Fox – maybe America’s Funniest Police Bloopers where police before the camera knock down the door of the wrong house blow the head off of an elderly person, a sleeping child, or a puppy

And why limit the fun to the official police – i’m sure that Sheriff Joe will lead the way in creating his own posse of people wanting to kick in the doors of people’s homes and taking whatever they want.

And who cares about that pesky 4th Amendment – might as well just send it to the shredder – reasonable suspicion??? What is that – who needs it, i mean don’t they realize that the Bill of Rights only protects the right people who live in good neighborhoods.

Seriously, that is your solution??? “Suprise Weapons Sweeps?” Even more draconian sentences? So basically in order to protect the Second Amendment from a non-existent threat you want to destroy the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th Amendments??? Awesome – kids watching at home, see how fast the NRA and their dupes like Sam embrace outright fascist techniques just to protect their precious little guns :P

Polls from the right, left, and middle have all been consistent showing 90% of the public supports universal background checks. It doesn’t matter. The politicans will do the bidding special interests that elected them and ultimately own them. There is a reason why Congress never ever passed meaningful legislation against the tobacco industry – indeed Congress protected the tobacco industry.

Sam the fact that you try to deny the obvious. influence of corporate money on our political practice – even ignoring the overwhelming support that universal background checks have in polls (even among self described gun owners) speaks volumes. Of course, since the right wing’s entire economic plan during my entire life has been premised on a violation the Second Law of Thermodynamics (or as it is sometimes called the First law of Economics: there is no such thing as a free lunch) it is hardly surprising that modern right wingers fail to understand why things keep getting more and more slanted to the top 1% of the population.

And it is hardly surpirsing that people like Sam do not realize that the plutocrats like Mktt Romney and corporate interests like the people who run the NRA view him as a “useful idiot” or a sucker.

Seriously, i don’t think that Sam has any idea how stupid he really sounds.

What a system we have – right wing media primarily exists to drive the paranoia of their audience. A right wing Supreme Court allows unlimited secret corporate funds to go to right wing politicians. Right wing politicians in Congress in order to keep the flow of unlimited secrete corporate funds cater to special interests rather than what voters want. One special interest with a huge amount of secret corporate cash flowing to it is the NRA – the NRA says that there always must be loopholes for people with mental illness to be able to have guns. Another special interest with a huge amount of secret corporate cash behind it is the anti-tax movement whose primary goal is to virtually eliminate corporate taxes and eliminate progressive taxation in favor of regressive taxation. This goal also entails shrinking government – for example by slashing funding for mental health treatment, education, and other social programs. The decline in education makes people much more vulernable to fall victim to fear driven propaganda. Right wing media (including the NRA) spreads hysteria claiming that even the most basic gun control measure (such as an universal background check to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and people with mental illness) equals the government coming to take your guns and send you to a FEMA concentration camp where a government death panel will decide whether you live or die. People who are clinically paranoid here these right wing media reports and believe that the government really is out to get them. Thanks to no universal background checks they have no problem getting guns. They soon wind up with a bad case of the “Dead” often taking others (generally police officiers who in their minds are there to take their guns and send them to FEMA concentration camps – but sometimes the heavily armed paranoid types take a lot of innocent people with them).

The pursuit of winning elections through spending vast sums of secret corporate cash and propaganda based upon fear rather than reason is leading to these tragedies. And because of the vast sums of corporate cash driving the propaganda. And the worst part is that a death like this which will serve to drive fear not only among the paranoid Sovereign Citizens but among the police and even the general public scared of being caught in the cross fire is not exposing the flaw in the system. It is showing that their system is working exactly as they want. The right wing corporatists have long believed that there is an acceptable number of deaths as long as they get their way which ultimately means getting more money. That is why they want to give corporations virtual immunity from not only tort liability but also safety regulations. Some dead Sovereign Citizens – or a classroom full of dead children – is merely the cost of doing business for them. Thanks to a virtual lock on the media, gerrymandering in the House (Virginia has voted for President Obama twice and has two Democratic Senators but 8 of 11 House members are Republicans thanks to Republican gerrymandering), and a Supreme Court ruling that allows unlimited secret campaign contrabutions, spending on shadowy negative ads from who knows where one expects to see more and more news items of this type (and more appalling mass shootings as well).

When 90% of the population support something and Congress refuses to pass it because the 10% has a large sum of cash which they can use to run negative ads against anyone who oppose them or run positive ads in support of them there is something seriously wrong in our system. The increase in “sovereign citizens” getting in shootouts with the police is one manifestation of just how crazy things are getting in these times that we live in.

I disagree they did trust an FBI man and just because they happen to develop a weapon of destruction does not mean they are superior in all forms of intelligence. And a good undercover man can usually weasel his way in.

Well he most certainly is now. And let’s hope that he elects for the educational services on the other side.

Sovereigns believe that they – not judges, juries, law enforcement or elected officials – get to decide which laws to obey and which to ignore…

Yes there has been a growth of strange individuals in America who do believe that they are above the law and they do appear to act in groups, I thought it was just organized crime.

However, it appears that stupid is contagious and they don’t only act out against authority but they believe they have the right to infringe on the civil liberties of others.

Now I simply must find out if they are more than just racists and if they too subscribe to the sovereign movement.

And this man was an American Veteran? What in the world was he thinking?

Sovereigns are clogging up the courts with indecipherable filings and when cornered, many of them lash out in rage, frustration and, in the most extreme cases, acts of deadly violence, usually directed against law enforcement. In May 2010, for example, a father-son team of sovereigns murdered two officers with an assault rifle when they were pulled over on the interstate while traveling through West Memphis, Ark.

Sounds like a violent group and I hope our officers are intelligent enough to steer clear of them.

Save the whining for Legal Aid and the arraignment, if it gets that far.

It was a traffic stop…

These SovCits lead the league in paranoia. On the other hand, if one of them develops a death ray, they’re not as likely to trust an undercover FBI man…

It seems to me that there are basicallly two types of sovereigns, those who are doing the grifting and those who are being grifted. The dear departed referenced here sounds as though he belonged in the latter category before he shuffled off this mortal coil.

Like many SCNJs, his writings and behaviour, to the extent that we can determine from this article, seem to suggest that he believed that words have near mystical powers when uttered in the correct sequence. It is also common for several specific forms of mental illness to hold the same fixation, hence my original question.

This goes beyond what would be merely considered a correct legal interpretation and plunges into the realm of spells and incantations.