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It just gets better ad better.

“* should i be ashamed to admit that i sort of want to be The Lovely Southern Belle in this act??? ;)”

Admit it or not… if they want so b(dsm)adly to bring back the “rule of thumb” (or dispense with it entirely as some want, ie: “I am your father. I brought you into this world….”), someone should be a platform figurehead to show them exactly how it feels.
Hold nothing back!
*maniacal laughter*

Disclaimer: I neither believe in, nor support violence of any kind against individuals who have not previously demonstrated their own inability to communicate as a rational mind by action/deed.

“As many see it, it is our Government run schools that teach the revisionist version of history, with all good things coming from the Government, and corporations as the purveyors of false promises and environmental damage.”
~Its deeply ironic and darkly humorous that you’d continue to literally quote verbatim what all the most prominent (and of course, lily-white) conservative Republican pundits, politicians and media ideologues continue to say in regards to demonizing the very real positive results the government has that is actually flexible and contingent upon people’s needs. As somebody who has had a private school upbringing throughout the primary and secondary eras, why do we have so many Right-Wingers content with abolishing a Department of Education and public school system that’d disproportionately affect all the non-white and non-wealthy population of the U.S.? What plans and proposals do they have for resolving the many federally-funded schools that have been forcibly shut down because of terrible maintenance and management on our, yes, corporate oligarchy’s part and whose unfortunate by standing victims are overwhelmingly black or brown? Otr is that part of the agenda to prove government is a ‘slave master’ or is the problem with everything (as when say, the Republicans are ever the majority there)?

“Jobs like welders, CNC machine operators, truck maintenance, factory maintenance, assembly, construction, computer aided design, computer IT techs, etc. are begging for people to fill them, but our kids are graduating with only the skills needed to fill out applications for Government benefits.”
~And again I say, whose fault is this, theirs (as in the students and kids who are only following the rules of a backwards system that can’t even manage itself properly)? How come every other developed nation’s (UK, Japan, Finland, Denmark, South Korea, France, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Netherlands, etc.) public education rankings so easily outstrip us despite the fact we in America are far richer and have more resources to readily impose improving it? It must be those significantly greater tax rates that guarantee a fantastic (and free) education from the kindergarten onwards to all citizens, to say nothing of that universal health care that keeps mostly productive and happy. Yet two other ways the U.S., this country I love enough to see and tell when and where it needs to do better, could decidedly use some vast improvements on! And to think, all these over-privileged, ultraconservative lobbyists and faux refomers advocating the even more problematic voucher programs actually believe that it must be the folks operating under this nonsense as being the problem. They couldn’t care less what become of them or those jobs as long as they get their undeserved tax breaks and outrageous self-awarded bonuses on the annual. The rest of us ”normies” trying to make it day by day will have to find, and do indeed deserve, better government management!

Then look at things like the fact that not one petroleum distillery/cracking plant has been built in the US in the last 40 years… nor do we even produce our own steel… that one is an onion.

BTW: there is no trade called “welders”. You are an iron worker, or hull technician, sheet metal worker, pipe fitter, etc., and trained in literally dozens of different things including workplace safety, blueprint reading and drawing, heavy lifting (rigging), metallurgy, cutting and welding, electronic theory, mathematics, geometry, chemistry, fork truck/aerial lift operation and safety, etc..
When a job description says “welders wanted”, they most certainly do not want someone who did 4000 hours of supervised, hands on training, and 750+ hours of actual technical schooling, and can look at a blueprint and build you a foundry from the ground up, or build you the machines for an Investment Casting line, they want someone who can burn rod for $8 an hour with no benefits.
GMAW, SMAW, GTAW are foreign terms to most applying for “welders wanted” ads, and they line up around the block for one position.

Hence the movement of US heavy industry overseas, or to the South: cheap labor with no unions, thereby disenfranchising an areas entire economy.
Why do you think the guy in the article above, and similar mind sets, might hate Mo-Town music?
Because America changed, and they didn’t like it.

And of course, you realize that if what you want to see happens and most everyone went to trade schools to learn a trade, that soon those skilled labor blue collar jobs would have a surplus and there would be a ton of unemployed welders running around. It wouldn’t be long at all before the welding job market becomes as oversaturated and as bad as say the legal job market.

* should i be ashamed to admit that i sort of want to be The Lovely Southern Belle in this act??? ;)

You sure seem to find a lot of time to gossip on the Internet during the work day. I am trying to find work because the company I worked for went belly up. And not many places that pay decent wages are hiring.

So again, what do YOU DO?

Really, Sam? Your Faux Newz and JBS talking points are routinely dismantled and debunked. Some of your more outrageous claims have entered the lexicon of this forum as shorthand for rightwing foolishness.

On the other hand, your persitance is a testament to the power of willing self-delusion.

“The Southern Avenger??? Seriously???”

And entering the ring, crawling, with one of those ball gag things, a studded collar, some crossed chest straps, chaps, and matching Flag boots… led by aforementioned belle with thin chains and a cat-o-nines on the handle of her parasol.

Shock jock.
*giggle*

“Jobs like welders, CNC machine operators, truck maintenance, factory maintenance, assembly, construction, computer aided design, computer IT techs, etc. are begging for people to fill them, but our kids are graduating with only the skills needed to fill out applications for Government benefits.”

Do take into account that instigated bias, and ignored discrepancies in availability of funds for certain demographics/areas are a major part of job opportunity/availability, and is also a deciding factor in how ready any individual is for a trade school/technical school or university as opposed to those allowed through entitlement/privilege to access education of any kind: if they want it.
Some just aren’t willing to get their hands dirty, and would spend all of their money on hand sanitizers, Axe body spray ™, and hair gel.

Racial bias in an area is also a major factor and the concept of “glass ceiling” in various trades and forms of employment.
I would example the African American man in a local building trades who was a Nuclear Propulsion Specialist in the US Navy (he ran a reactor on an Aegis Cruiser for the love of), who was laid off the minute he got his Journeyman’s certificate and would have made the “big bucks”.
He was one of two African Americans in the entire local of 300 or thereabouts.
They (his shop) never allowed him to become proficient in any other of the applied skills that would have made him useful to other shops in the local: they just had him run one machine.
As he asked repeatedly to be able to differentiate in his daily activities, it was apparent they were not interested in forwarding his endeavors in that trade.
They screwed him: no other shops had that type of machine.
One of many.

There might also be a certain bias as to what actually is considered work by certain parts of society, what they might consider “beneath” them. Sweat is beneath them when sitting inside in the air conditioning playing “Call of Duty” or trolling on the Internet: it’s much nicer, and manufacturing/maintenance jobs are usually quite the opposite.

Also consider the difference even inherent in your list of trades/jobs.
Some are considered “white collar”($) whereas others are considered “base labor” (read that as “blue collar”) by certain demographics.
Certain demographics see service/infrastructure/production work as applicable only for those they consider less, or, for “simple” people: as they see them.
The obverse is also true:
You know what they call the sand technicians, in their air conditioned rooms, with their clean, cool air, spotless lab coats, technical school/college degrees, and expensive testing machinery in a casting foundry?
Clean Foundry Rats.

Let’s not get into private vs public educations as any type of defining factor.
There are way too many sheepskins with very reputable seals floating around out there with absolutely no practical experience, or even common sense in some cases, to back them up: let alone literacy.
They drank beer and passed.
They want it all when they graduate because they are “entitled” to it: they “worked” so hard to get it by endangering their lives to “produce” a ziggurat of empties.

To those of you who have studied in school, and truly earned your degrees: the above is not aimed at you.

“Indeed, I have never seen why any man skilled in his trade, and surrounded by the articles of his craft, should be in awe of princes. Their task differs, that is all.”
‘The Hollow Hills’, Mary Stewart.

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I see white men married to women of different ethnic backgrounds quite happy. And vice versa.

So the men who they target in the newsletter Angry White Men are the white supremacists?

If that’s the case then maybe they are the ones who need to re-examine their personal beliefs and lifestyles instead of finger pointing towards everyone else.

My takeaway from it though, was wondering why nobody ever commemorates Charles Guiteau’s birthday? Needs a better press agent, I guess.

“Black Conservatives vs. Government replacing the plantation owner as the supplier of all their needs.” This is just empty rhetoric and it relies on the putative power of ‘plantation owner’. No one is moved by this, though. You can preach to your own choir all you like, you’re not saying anything about the substance of government with this rubbish.

“it is our
Government run schools that teach the revisionist version of history, with all good things coming from the Government, and corporations as the purveyors of false promises and environmental damage.”
‘the’ revisionist history? Which one is that? I think you want ‘a’ revisionist… your education is showing I think.
Why do the Koch Bros. have prizes offered to pols for signing on to the pledge to vote against any climate change policy? It happens to be reality that the polluters are these types of corporations. What revisionism is required to arrive at easily known facts? That’s quite absurd.

“Jobs like welders… are begging for people to fill them, but our kids are graduating with only the skills needed to fill out applications for Government benefits.” What kids? Where does this happen? You’re actually arguing in favor of techical and trade schools in place of a rounded education. The lapse in education in for instance Texas functions to dumb down the populace – I supposed you never noticed the statements against teaching critical thinking there – and revise history so it favors a certain argument. And it’s not terrifically well thought out even to fit that thrust.

You don’t quite know what to do to try and distort the realities of education so they fit your ideology, this is just some weak attempts at some rather vapid rhetorical gestures, saying nothing.

A growing number of black conservatives? Care to name a few, that don’t work for Fox News or WorldNutDaily? And you are back on the revisionist history thing again. Can you give us a solid citation this time around?