They’re not hateful because they’re conservative. They’re hateful because they LIE.

And then there’s the undeniable fact that half the organizations that were given extra scrutiny were progressive. And the ONLY group that was outright denied tax-exempt status WAS progressive!

Nothing quite like conservative hypocrisy, am I right?

Of course, one thing to remember is that these groups tend to claim that they want to follow the “original intent” of the Constitution – of course, the unstated implication in that claim should make anyone extremely suspect of anyone who makes the claim – that is of course, because the only people who originally had any rights in 1787 when the Constitution was written were white male property owners. The Constitution was written to specifically protect the right of people to own other people as property. Only white male property owners were allowed to vote – women had almost no votes. Sodomy, adultry, and fornication were illegal and heavily punished.

Of course, even using “original intent” they still can’t establish a church – George Washington’s letter to the Jewish temple in Rhode Island as well as the Treaty of Tripoli shows that the Constitution was designed to protect all religions and to not establish a church. Of course, there were still specific establishments of religion such as blue laws that lasted well into the 20th century (it was in the 20th Century for example that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that it was Constitutional to force an Orthodox Jew who owned a department store to be closed on Sunday) – and some clear establishments of an official state religion continue to this day with the Supreme Court showing little desire to change or even address the issue and resulting in a truly bizarre incident of cognative dissodence when they have said its okay to put “In God we Trust” on the money or insert “Under God” into the Pledge of Allegance effectively because they claim that those references to God are meaningless so the Athiests should just get over it. Of course, if the references to God were really meaningless, they wouldn’t be there i’m pretty sure – but for some reason the Christian Right doesn’t find it offensive that the right wingers on the Supreme Court have claime that references to God are okay because they lack meaning – instead they freak out at any mention of removing God – because obviously a reference to God does have a meaning.

But let’s be serious (and at risk of sounding like “the mantra”), when they say “Original Intent” it is extremely likely that they mean “only Christian white male property owners have rights” – and before you doubt that, remember that on the right there are people (often perversely right wing women) seriously claiming that women should not be able to vote.

And of course, they also claim to support Biblical Marriage which of course, is women submit to your husbands in all circumstances and women having no identity of their own. Some ultra mysognistic types on the right even want to go back to the old Common Law rule that by getting married a woman always consents to sex with her husband which would again make it legal for men to rape their wives – and of course, they also want to allow men to legally beat their wives (and they also encourage parents – almost without the doubt the father – to beat their children – and of course, the combination message that women are like children who need to be controlled by men is very apparent). They do at least publicly draw the lines at Bliblical polygamy (although its quite possible that they are trying to claim that gay marriage will lead to polygamy because they are hopeful) and those types tend to react with the passage in the Bible forcing rape victims to marry their attackers by denying that the Bible means exactly what it says (even though these types tend to believe that God literally created the earth in 6 days 6,000 years ago – and that in every other pasage the Bible is literally the Word of God – okay, they also have selected the bury your head in the sand and pretend that it doesn’t exist approach to the passage in the Bible calling for forcing women suspected of committing adultry to have a test to see if she is pregnant (specically a forced abortion) and stone her to death if she was pregnant since it doesn’t exactly jibe well with their claim that they are against abortion because they are “pro-life” and not that their real objection is to the idea that women have control of their own bodies).

So essentially when they claim they support “Biblical marriage” they mean total male domination.

When they claim they support “original intent” they mean total white male domination.

When they claim they support “pro-family” they mean total hetereosexual male domination.

When they claim they support “religious liberty” they mean the liberty of ultra right wing Christians to control everything.

When they claim to be “pro-life” they mean total male domination.

Unlike the white nationalist “mantra” this one has a whole lot of support – ultimately the homophobes, men’s rights mysognists, white nationalists, white supremacists, and racists are all peas in a pod to each other – essentially they all believe in the same thing which is total heterosexual Christian white male supremacy and domination. The main difference between more “mainstream” groups and the hate groups is the degree in which they use weasel words. The Christian Dominionists white supremacist “Patriot Groups” will flat out tell you that they think that only white male Christians have any rights – the more mainstream right wing groups ultimately believe the same thing but will express it using weasel words.

just because you dont agree with them does not make them hateful..

I’m just waiting for the Tony Perkins scandal of all sex scandals…the one he will be at the center of “sin” that’s been going on for decades. A sex scandal bigger than Jim Baker and “Ted” all wrapped up in one big bundle of home made sin! I know it’s out there…

SPLC certainly did the right thing

As an aside, ENDA has no chance of getting though the Asylum formerly known as the US House of Representatives.

There are some people you don’t want on your side and the infestation of bigotry and racism in our communities both state and federal is really enough foul smell to turn off the educated population.

Southern Baptist? The nations established church? Who in the world would swallow that pill? That’s ridiculous.

And that’s not a poke at all Baptist. There are radicals and there are those who are peaceful members of our communities.

However, what supports your argument about Southern Baptist being the nations established church?

” In every case, they want to claim they’re having rights unjustly taken from them, when in fact the issue is the restoration of rights they’ve unjustly taken from others.”

I agree with this statement.

Well color me pleased to read this post: There is nothing in the Constitution or common sense that says America must forever be a white male heterosexual Christian-ruled country.

That is very true. And it will be a much greater day when all we see is that America is an American run country. All men and women despite color should band together for Country, not for ethnic divide.

But that day may be long off in the future because we simply have no laws banning idiots from breeding and then passing on their idiocy to their innocent and unsuspecting offspring.

The claim that “The Department of Defense has been caught persecuting Christians” is typical. What has Perkins and other Christian Dominionists so worked up is the fact that organizations like the Military Religious Freedom Foundation have finally had some success in turning back the tide of fundamentalist propagandizing that arose throughout the military under leaders like Boykin. The reality is that DoD has spent hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars in recent years to build megachurch-type chapels on military bases and that enlisted personnel have been routinely intimidated and harassed into participating in evangelistic worship services by officers and non-coms who apparently think Southern Baptist is now the nation’s established church.

It’s not surprising that FRC would align with patriot groups, since this false-dilemma rhetoric is common to both – as well as to white supremacists, men’s rights advocates, homophobes and islamophobes. In every case, they want to claim they’re having rights unjustly taken from them, when in fact the issue is the restoration of rights they’ve unjustly taken from others. There is nothing in the Constitution or common sense that says America must forever be a white male heterosexual Christian-ruled country.