The Federation for American Immigration Reform Creates Black Front Group
INTELLIGENCE REPORT: You have a lot of white supporters. But how successful is your message in the black community?
TERRY ANDERSON: It's hard, brother. See, black folks don't have no focus. We hold a town hall meeting about illegal immigration, and they want to bring up a thousand subjects. They want to talk about education; they want to talk about the schools; they want to talk about parking; they want to talk about police brutality. And then you got that old minority bullshit about, "We minorities, they minorities, so we got to all stick together." Then you get, "The white man hard on them just like he hard on us," and, see, this is the kind of stuff I just don't understand. Right now, the white man that they are talking about is Mexicans! It used to be the Klan, now it's the Klan with a tan.
Then I hear these handkerchief-head, slave-catching, Negro leaders who say we have to form an alliance with these people [Hispanic immigrants], like the NAACP. What a bunch of outdated, worthless people are the NAACP. I have so much disdain and hatred for these people. Them and the [Congressional] Black Caucus. They are selling us out.
IR: You say your job is to make people angry. Are you concerned that anger will lead to violence?
ANDERSON: I'm talking about righteous indignation. I'm not talking about violence in the streets. I'm totally against that, although -- and you can print this -- I predict it. It's coming, and it's going to be here soon. If this thing ain't fixed in a legal way by politics or judges or government, some kind of way, there's going to be violence. There will be a race riot in this town [Los Angeles] the likes of which you have never seen.
IR: How do you feel about that?
ANDERSON: I'm not concerned about it. I don't have the luxury of being concerned. We [blacks] are now a third-class people. They [Latinos] have taken every political gain we have made. We had better representation from some of these white mayors and city councilmen [in L.A.] than we will ever get from these Mexicans. They are not going to give us anything. They don't care. Not only don't they care, but the Hispanics have a disdain for the black population. They don't want us here.
IR: Tell us about Choose Black America.
ANDERSON: Right, that's Dr. Claud Anderson and Dr. Frank Morris. Those are a bunch of guys who know what's going on. When I got on the radio one of the first guests I ever had was Dr. Frank Morris. They don't come up with all this bullshit about, "We got to remember that we had a hard time when we came here, too."
IR: Who else do you know in Choose Black America?
ANDERSON: (Long sigh.) Their names aren't coming to me.
IR: What has Choose Black America accomplished beyond holding a press conference?
ANDERSON: There are articles being written. They're planning some other stuff right now. Basically, it was a name of an organization to get the news conference. I only hope that most black people will look at it and say, "These are brothers. These ain't rednecks."
IR: Choose Black America is funded by FAIR [Federation for American Immigration Reform], correct?
ANDERSON: I don't believe they're funded by FAIR. I believe that press conference was funded by FAIR.
IR: Would you agree that FAIR doesn't have the best reputation among blacks?
ANDERSON: What bad reputation do they have?
IR: Are you familiar with [FAIR founder and board member John] Tanton's associations? [Editor's note: Tanton, architect of much of the organized anti-immigration movement, runs an anti-immigration hate group called the Social Contract Press, which is staffed by his long-time collaborator, Wayne Lutton, an officer of the Council of Conservative Citizens and one other white supremacist group. Tanton has written about Latinos' allegedly low "educability" and he republished and endorsed a racist French novel about a non-white invasion of France, complete with an author's afterword about threats to the white race.]
ANDERSON: We're going to disavow FAIR because Tanton may or may not have had some racist friends? Because Tanton may or may not have had a racist moment in his life, we're going to disavow the organization of FAIR?
IR: How do you feel about the stands of many Ku Klux Klan and neo-Nazi groups against illegal immigration?
ANDERSON: I read some of the stuff on [the white supremacist website] Stormfront and some of the stuff they write -- it's like I wrote it. And it's not racially prejudiced. Sometimes it is, but usually it's a nationalist thing. Am I going to stand up with Stormfront? Of course I'm not, because they're a bunch of redneck, racist motherfuckers. But the statements they made were true. Now, I have black people tell me, "Man, you saying the same thing the KKK is saying." Well, then we're both right. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that we happen to agree on this. And I think, now a lot of these white supremacist organizations are softening themselves toward us, because now they got a new enemy that's overwhelming them.
IR: On your radio show, you seem to focus more on the cultural impact of immigration than the economic consequences for the black community.
ANDERSON: The guy who lives up the corner from me, from El Salvador, he dug up his whole front yard. They got rows of corn growing in their front yard. It's about two feet high right now. Corn! Rows of corn. Are you listening to me?
The guy two doors from him has about 20 chickens in the backyard and once a day he opens the gate and lets them out. In the next block from me, there's a goat tied up in the backyard. They wash their clothes and hang them on the front fence -- not even on a clothesline. Each house has five, six, seven cars, so there's nowhere to park. Yeah, that has nothing to do with economics, but it makes it hard to live.
And then there's the parties. These mariachi parties, where they bring live musical bands in their backyards and play just as loud as they can play until 2, 3, 4 o'clock in the morning. Graffiti on everything. All the billboards in my neighborhood are now in Spanish. I'm talking Kellogg's, Ford, Toyota, GM, Seagram's, Coors, Budweiser, you name it, it's in Spanish. None of that is economics. It's all cultural, and it's a problem.
IR: Aren't you playing toward negative stereotypes about Mexicans? Is it really fair to say all Mexican and Central American immigrants have goats and chickens in their yards?
ANDERSON: Every Mexican doesn't have chickens in their yard, but my reality is that some of them do. Every one of them doesn't party. But I would say an overwhelming majority of them do. All of them don't have goats. They all don't grow corn in their front yard, but the majority of them do. So to answer your question, no. They all don't do it. But it's not a stereotype when the majority do. Am I wrong?