President Obama? Many White Supremacists are Celebrating

Posted in White Supremacist by Mark Potok on June 11, 2008

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With the nomination of Barack Obama as the Democratic presidential candidate clinched, large sections of the white supremacist movement are adopting a surprising attitude: Electing America’s first black president would be a very good thing.

It’s not that the assortment of neo-Nazis, Klansmen, anti-Semites and others who make up this country’s radical right have suddenly discovered that a man should be judged based on the content of his character, not his skin. On the contrary. A growing number of white supremacists, and even some of those who pass for intellectual leaders of their movement, think that a black man in the Oval Office would shock white America, possibly drive millions to their cause, and perhaps even set off a race war that, they hope, would ultimately end in Aryan victory.

“He will make things so bad for white people that hopefully they will finally realize how stupid they were for admiring these jigaboos all these years,” “Darthvader” wrote on the neo-Nazi Vanguard News Network web forum. “I believe in the motto ‘Worse is Better’ and Obama certainly fits that description.” Just last week, another poster on the same thread chimed in with this: “I hope Obama wins because in four years, white people just might be pissed off enough to actually do something. … White people aren’t going to do a thing until their toys are taken away from them. So things have to be worse for things to be better.”

“Oh man,” enthused “Centimanus” on the white nationalist Stormfront website. “I am gleefully, sadistically looking forward to Obama as president. … It will be a beautiful day when the masses look at the paper and truly realize they have lost their own country. Added “Fulimnata”: “To the average white man and woman, they could look at Obama and see plain as day that whites are not in control.” Another message, from “TheLastOfMyKind,” agreed: “Could it be that the nomination of Obama finally sparks a sense of unity in white voters? I would propose that this threat of black, muslim [sic] rule may very well be the thing that finally scares some sense back into complacent whites throughout the nation.” “Actually,” said another poster, “if Obama were to win, it would be the best thing that ever happened to the Klan. They would have massive growth.” And “TeutonicLegion” said that “a whole bunch of people will join us and find these boards” if Obama becomes president.

David DukeEven David Duke (right), the neo-Nazi and former Klan boss who is the closest thing the movement has to a real intellectual these days, sees clear advantages in an Obama victory in the fall. “Obama will be a signal, a clear signal for millions of our people,” Duke wrote in an essay entitled “A Black Flag for White America” last week. “Obama is like that new big dark spot on your arm that finally sends you to the doctor for some real medicine. … Obama is the pain that let’s [sic] your body know that something is dreadfully wrong. Obama will let the American people know that there is a real cancer eating away at the heart of our country and Republican aspirin will not only not cure it, but only masks the pain and makes you think you don’t need radical surgery. … My bet is that whether Obama wins or loses in November, millions of European Americans will inevitably react with new awareness of their heritage and the need for them to defend and advance it.”

Opinion on the radical right is far from unanimous on the topic of a possible Obama victory. Many of those writing on the topic — perhaps half of those who have posted recently — think an Obama presidency would destroy the country and oppose it mightily. On the other hand, there is virtually no enthusiasm on the radical right for presumptive Republican nominee John McCain, who is widely seen by white supremacists as a sellout, particularly on the issue of nonwhite immigration into the United States. But increasing numbers think that a bad situation with a black president will be good for their movement.

“Thomas Dixon Jr.,” a Stormfront poster using the name of the racist author who wrote the classic novel The Clansman, put it like this: “As WLP [William Luther Pierce, the late leader of the neo-Nazi National Alliance] would say… ‘What is bad for the system is good for us.’” “Obama,” added “The Patriot” in the same thread, “would be better for our cause in the long run, no doubt about it.”

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  1. on June 11th, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    Which brings to mind the likelihood of just how many among the ranks of “racially-conscious” “poor white trash” may be considered closet apologists for the apartheid regime in South Africa (1948-1996), as well as sympathetic to the manufactured “plight” and “persecution” of the Afrikaner community within post-apartheid South Africa.

    (Note where I say “manufactured,” insamuch as the goal here is to whip up latent feelings of “racial honour” for a cause existing only in the misled minds of such taking advantage of socioeconomic vulnerability in elements denying where such exists among their sort.)

  2. Slavyanski said,

    on June 11th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    Obviously this is going to backfire for them. While America is definitely heading for a major crash(due more to the policies of preceeding administrations and natural features of a capitalist economy), it is unlikely that there will be a radical break-down under Obama; in fact, knowing the way right-wing pundits work, if there is any major problem he may not make it another term and then anything major would probably happen under the next administration. We must not forget that Obama is going to inherit HUGE problems from Mr. Bush.

    What will certainly not happen, by any stretch of the imagination, is the morons’ “race war” fantasy. These idiots can’t even figure out that if Obama wins, it will have been due in large part to many white voters as well.

    I find WN predictions for the future rather amusing. The idea that this gaggle of morons could possible even take advantage of some revolutionary scenario is absolutely hilarious. The most complicated operation these people can pull off successfully with any consistency is a BBQ cook-out. What is more, there will never be the kind of revolutionary scenario these idiots want- that is a total collapse of order that turns America into a Mad Max style environment overnight. The kind of “fight” they envision is one where there are no police or military forces to prevent them from attacking and driving out non-white civilians.

  3. Throckmorton said,

    on June 11th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    Good Lord. With friends like these…

    Well, Obama did say that he will bring people together, heal racial divisions, etc. I’m not sure that getting support from Stormfront is what he had in mind. It is worth noting that SPLC puts Obama’s friends at NOI in the same category… maybe as president he can have Duke and Farrakhan over for tea; they can settle their differences and get on with “solving the Jewish problem”.

  4. skylights said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 12:48 am

    Obama’s friends at NOI? Which ones might those be, Throckmorton?

  5. Obama 08 said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 9:17 am

    You ignorant white people are so sad. I really feel sorry for you.

  6. rabbi josiah said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 9:30 am

    This statement is most disturbing by Throckmorton, settle the jewish problem. What sick perverted and demented stupidity by those who in their fantasy minds believe that they are superior to others.
    I have always asked this question of those whom espoused bigotry, hatred, and racism.
    ” What has a Jew, Black Man, Latinio, or other non-white persons personally done to make you feel and act in the way you act ? ” As always there is no apparent answer from those whom hate others for what ever reason or thought processes. It only shows that those who hate have no actually motivation to hate, just that they are followers of others, as Hitler did with his propaganda

  7. White and I will vote Obama said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 9:39 am

    I will vote Obama because he is the BEST person for the job.It’s true “You may put a regular suit on,try to look smart.But then you OPEN your mouth”You CANT EVER TAKE THE HILL OUT OF THE BILLY.GET SOME TEETH YOU INBREED FUCKS!By the way when,you inbreed your children do come out MONGLOIDIAN=Here is the result.

  8. J said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 9:42 am

    We should never forget that there were at one time 5 MILLION white men in the KKK who most had families and had the backing of the government. Millenials, Gen x and Y don’t let the BOOMers ruin our future.

  9. Mr. Brian Edwards said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 9:45 am

    Wow!!! I am a white American supporting Obama. My fam all white are supporting obama. In Europe including Germany Barack Obama is very liked. In fact they preffer him over John McCain. As a republican I do belive that Barack will actually bring folks together to move forward an agenda to help us move in the right direction. Its sad that some of the poor whie trash still think this way. The reality is that when someone is loosing the fight they make things up and continue to be n denial. This nations is moving towards to path of harmany. We all American should continue to fight this non-sense of hate is just dont go with the true fabric of America. Barack Obama will win beacause he has a huge support among all groups annd yes is safe to say he has a bigger support among whites thatn black. The black papulation is on 12% percen in whole compare to 78% percent white. The hispanics are now a bigger group than balcks in America and most are of European decent. Stop the hate. Dont vote on fear. The KKK is pure disgusting. Eve the eldest member of gongress from WV endorse Obama beacuse he knows Barack is the right choice. I am like most republicans not happy with McCain. He is more liberal than we think???


  10. on June 12th, 2008 at 9:53 am

    I don’t thiink that you can minimize these crazy and awful people. The world thought the same thing about the Nazis in the beginning. Ever vigilante must be our credo. They will be crawling out from under their rocks more and more as this campaign goes on.

  11. Origood said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 9:59 am

    this is all so….. dumb.

  12. Bee said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 10:03 am

    THESE PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!

  13. Carol said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 10:05 am

    Wow… if that’s not the most backwards, illogical pattern of thought that I’ve ever heard. But whatever. Let them celebrate. I hope those morons even vote for him, because it will backfire on them, and there’s never going to be a nationwide race war.

  14. eh? said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 10:14 am

    @rabbi josiah

    I am assuming thats a joke. Its in quotes for that reason.

  15. MARY said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 10:18 am

    What are all you racists and bigots going to do when Bush & friends end up at the Hague for Crimes against Humanity, War Crimes, Spying on Americans, oh the list goes on and on! Will he be like your stupid idol Hitler and commit suicide because he can’t take the punishments that fit the crimes? Or will you just start up another hate group honoring the Facsist?
    When will you learn that carring all that hate hurts you more than the person that you have it directed at?
    GROW UP & READ SOME INTELLIGENT BOOKS!
    Maybe, just maybe, you’ll learn something along the way.
    Peace & Love.

  16. Larry from Purdue said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 10:19 am

    This is hysterical - it’ll probably cost McCain enough votes to ensure that Barack wins Michigan, too!

  17. gomonkeygo said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 10:21 am

    Gee, thanks, racist freaks! I can’t wait to see how your plan for a backfire backfires on you!

    There’s an entire generation that’s grown up with very little regard for skin color and gender differences in this country (compared to their forebears at the least). They are voting for Obama, they don’t care what “race” he is, they don’t give a damn about anything but the results. And Obama, just by not being George Bush, wilL automatically be a much better President than we’ve had for the last eight years. Especially since he’ll be working with a Democratic Congress.

    You silly Nazi/Racist/Haters just made my day!

  18. Jubee said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 10:21 am

    Whatever you fight,you strengthen, what you resist persists.Greed,selfishness,exploitation,cruelty,and violence are still all-pervasive on this planet.When you are in the grip of a mind set,your preceptions become extremely selective as well as distorted. In other words you will see only what you want to see and then misinterpret it, it is a delusional system, or instead of imagining it, listen to Rush, or watch the news channels tonight on TV.

  19. Cassandra said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 10:22 am

    Okay…This is a major gamble for these groups and this line of thinking. I say that because if the is a successful president then this would kill the entire movement. Now that I think about they would say he was the exception …he was more white than black. These guys are idiots.

  20. Disappointed said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 10:58 am

    Why does Obama and his associates (Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Rev. Michael Pfleger, Bill Ayers, Louis Farrakhan, etc) get a pass by “HateWatch”?

    Is it because they are Democrats and they can do no wrong for their own hate speech?

    Pure hypocrisy on your part and you should be ashamed.

  21. Better than you said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 11:00 am

    And white supremacist are not the most educated. If they ever picked up a book they would realize that White society actually stole much of what they claim is now theirs. Remember white’s didn’t establish the first society and you were not the first people on earth. Get used to it. Come parade down Church Ave, Bklyn,NY. We’re waiting for you.

  22. Katie said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 11:07 am

    What a bunch of idiots…what more can you say about them?

  23. mollygonz said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 11:28 am

    Are these people for real?? Look what a white man has done to the country for the last eight years!!!! Ugh!! The only way is up and that’s with Obama. It is so sad that people still have these beliefs and that reflects their ignorance.They are so stuck in a hole and will be until they wake up. They thrive off of anger and ignorance.

  24. DT said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 11:39 am

    What I find to be the most funny is that when white supremacists speak of American heritage, they seem to convieniently leave out that we all arrived about the same time. America has always been a mixed bag. Europeans came to this country same as we did. None of us owned it. It belonged to the Native Americans and Mexicans in the south. Of course as we all know, one of the only thing white folks can do is kill in massive amounts, steal and denounce the existence of GOD. They steal damn near everything they can steal. Nothing original about them. So sad. Never seen a race with so much manufactured hate. I think they suffer from low race esteem. It’s pretty obvious they hate themselves and therefore hate all others. Booty implants? Seriously? So easy to see. I believe “good white people” are rebels to their creator, Satan. God bless good white folk. Without them, this earth would truly be hell.

  25. LeGrande said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 11:40 am

    AMAZING!
    Enron, 2000 election robbery, Arthur Anderson, Hailiburton, Cheney, Bin Laden, Iraq war and BUSH ALL caused whites, blacks and republicans to change their way of thinking to the point, if they were against Obama for being black..it is a walk in the park compared to the last 8 years.
    Supremcist Orgs. are a day late and a dollar short…running this country right could have prevented an Obama election…not fucking it up for everybody…Obama is the aftermath, not the beforemath.

  26. Anjuan said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 12:03 pm

    It is my hope that, as people of different races mix together, we will no longer maintain the hate and fear that these groups foster and see our similarities. When it all comes down to it, people, black, white, brown, et al, all want the same thing. We want access to education, the ability to earn an honest wage, safety for our families and neighborhoods, etc.

    We have all met good black people and bad black people as well as good white people and bad white people. One’s race does not make one inherently good or bad, superior or inferior It is the content of that person’s character that make the difference, and I hope that we can all enjoy racial harmony once everyone realizes that.

  27. Marvin Blades said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    It amazes me that this country spends so much time looking in the Middle East for terrorists. It would seem that at least a portion of our focus should be on the many domestic terrorist groups right here in the United States.

  28. Hogtowner said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    I’m white, a boomer, and of 100% european stock. But I am also 100% “race traitor” to the fascist right intellects quoted in the article. I cannot wait until Western Europeans are the minority in this country, so that these bigots will fade away into obscurity.

    What’s made this country great is imigration, what these folks should realize is that means the mix gets less homogenous, and thus better. It is the societal equivalent of hybrid resilience.

    Pro-Obama & Pro-Immigration: Let the pigs drown in the stew.

  29. Marvin Blades said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    I wonder if one day this country will truly consider each of its citizens as having the right to participate in its form of Democracy? Race as an issue will always be present in American politics as long as one group believes that this country is their’s exclusively.

  30. Mike said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    I could care less about his color. The fact that he’s left of Lenin is what scares the shit out of me.

  31. Longtime Obama Supporter said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    Hopefully, the SPLC crowd and those you deride will become so exercised over this you will kill each other off!

    Then America’s civilized minority can take your stuff.

  32. The_X_ception said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    So, if all the Black Americans and black-skinned immigrants from other lands would leave the United States, would these people be happy?

    I doubt it. They would need someone else to hate, someone else to blame for their unfortunate circumstances.

    Also, I don’t wholly buy their hatred as ignorance. It’s something else. It has to be something way more deep-rooted. I think their hatred directed at others is really self-hatred, self-pity for some things they lack.

    Perhaps since they don’t want to work hard, they need to believe others are taking something away from them.

    Maybe because they don’t have the capacity for formal education — centuries of inbreeding for a pure race is a cause of mental deficiencies — they need to hate others who excel intellectually.

    Perhaps if they’d read one of those Bibles they carry around, …

  33. rabbi josiah said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    eh? said, my quotations are my questions to those whom have hate in their hearts. Nothing more, or less.
    What most here in the forum has failed to mention, is that Mr. Obama has a percentage of the white race in his blood. His mother is of the white persuasion, so as that he is bi-racial, it is of my opinion (which counts for little) that Mr. Obama represents all races, and not just the black race. Those who have posted here all have the misconception, and that is that those wish to actually believe the media outlets, such as fox (an they live up to that name fox, now don’t they).
    I have watched all the media outlets covering Mr. Obama, and the one questions that is not asked is:

    “How many times in the alleged 20 yrs of membership, did Mr. Obama ACTUALLY attend the church in Chicago ?”

    My next questions is: William Ayers WAS NOT convicted of any crime, his charges were actually dismissed because the FBI, and other law enforcement departments violated the surveillance laws of that era, and any evidence was tainted under the fruits of the poisonous tree doctrine. So why is the media outlets (ie: fox and sean hannity) pushing these so called allegations of a criminal convictions, when there is no actual criminal conviction?

  34. JJ said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    Guess it’s the same ole, same ole White Supremist stupid mind games; and by that I mean twisting reality, but what the heck. Bring it on! Obama will benefit from their stupidity. The Nazis tried it too, but now we know better than to quibble over the color of ones’ skin or which religious book we espouse. Wake up people! We have a planet in peril. No time left for divisions. I think the young generation ‘understands’ this much better than folks over 35. Peace,

  35. Terri said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    Whats wrong with the white race wanting to keep there race alive?
    the blacks have all kinds of programs for blacks only and black history month. We are called racist if we want our children to only breed with there white color, im sorry but its time for whotes to stand up against the blacks and there hate theologies and support our race again.

  36. Dave said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    Obama is 1/2 white and was raised with no black family members. Most of his senior campaign staff and advisors are white. Unlike the Bush presidency, Obama will not be a virtual dictator. The media will not be as friendly if he is less of a corporatist than Bush.

    Do white supremacists pay less for gas and food than everyone else? Do dollars depreciate less for them than other Americans? Do they benefit from constant war?

  37. Eddogg said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    Mike said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    I could care less about his color. The fact that he’s left of Lenin is what scares the shit out of me.

    Very well said!

  38. AryanRebel said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    Where can I contact my Aryan Brothers in Central MA. I traveled a long way with out a contact.
    Need my NeoNazi Socialist and Aryan Brothers.
    Where are you, before I die in ths ssshole of Central MA.
    Good Republican White People are scared shitless and we should stay connected.

  39. Guy Fawkes said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    43 White Male presidents (especially our current cretin-in-residence) sure have done a cumulatively bang-up job, haven’t they.

    Here’s how I read the subtext of these “White Warrior”s’ blather: we’ve fucked things up so bad, now we want the chance to scapegoat you.

    I’m glad that racism seems to get just a bit less bad with each generation, at least so far.

  40. rabbi josiah said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    WOW WOW man here I thought this site was civilized, alas that is not true. As a descendant of a German Jew on my mothers side (a survivor of german death camp of Aushchwitz, and my father a descendant of Irish immigration from the potato famine of the late 1800’s, so that would actually make me a immigrant also, even though I was born here.
    All I am reading is the same propaganda from the Hitler youth movement, the only difference here is that your speech is protected here, and in NAZI germany you were killed or imprisoned
    The Gen X or Y, is on the right track, but old timers like me ( I am 54) must get on board if this country is going to turn around for sure

  41. SUSAN said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    I HOPE OBAMA GETS ELECTED AS WELL, BECAUSE WHAT THEY BELIEVE WILL BE GOOD FOR THEIR MOVEMENT WILL CRUSH THEIR MOVEMENT ONCE OBAMA DOES A GOOD JOB. WHEN OBAMA ENDS THE WAR IN IRAQ AROUND, AND TURN THE ECONOMY AROUND THEN THEY WOULDN’T HAVE AN ARGUMENT. THE TRUTH IS AMERICA WOULD BE MUCH BETTER WITHOUT THEIR MOVEMENT DIVIDING AMERICA INSTEAD OF UNITING IT. THIS IS PUR IGNORANCE AND ITIMIDATION.

  42. ElizabethB said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 2:36 pm

    I don’t care what these trivial hate groups do, as long as everyone stays safe. I am a big Obama supporter and have worried about his and his family’s safety throughout the campaign.

  43. Chris said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    This is proof that even Stupid has its limits. You can only be so stupid before you convince yourself to do exactly the opposite of what you normally do. Then all of a sudden, you do something smart.

    VOTE OBAMA.

    PS - get on these hate sites and promise them the so called “race war.” Anything that will get these nutjobs to VOTE OBAMA is a good thing!

  44. Mike said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    I love how the Klan calls themselves Christians and yet they act in such an un-Christian way.

    As a Christian myself, I will pray for the people in the Klan and the Aryan Nations. I’ll pray that God heals their bitterness and removes the anger from their soul so that they can see that we are all one people under God.

  45. rabbi josiah said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    Shalom
    Ms ElizabethB you state the biggest concern to me also, I truly fear for the safety for the Obama family. Some PNJ (patriot nut job) will try to kill him or his family. Much as with Robert Kennedy and John Kennedy, these men were also for drastic changes, especially for government corruption and reform, and these great men were killed for their changes in american government, as much as Mr. Obama is for reform also.
    I truly would like to vote in this election cycle, but alas the left wing republicans do not allow such

  46. paul b said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    Fuinny

  47. kat meen said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    They have an intellectual among them who knows how to spin.
    thats another way to come home without loosing face. Atleast the leader cares about American to tell his boys to hold the gun..and not embarrass the Nation they love. Obamas fate is tied to their own

  48. Senella said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 6:44 pm

    This looks,sounds and smells like a toilet full of crap, Will somebody just flush it???

  49. ipsos said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    Few things are as cowardly as fearing someone for their skin color. Let us not be swayed by loud mouth cravens.

  50. Justin said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    I have grown weary of being called racist, or intolerant, or hateful, because I chose not to vote for, or support, Barack Obama for president. I voted for Hillary Clinton and I still believe that she is the most qualified candidate for the democratic party’s nominee choice. I could care less what color anyone is but I do care very much about qualifications. I find it immature and insulting that people jump to the racism conclusion simply because someone chooses NOT to vote for an African-American candidate. Frankly, it’s a huge turnoff to be categorized as racist and this behavior hardly helps Obama in any way, shape, or form.

  51. NY"r in SF said,

    on June 13th, 2008 at 1:07 am

    What is very amazing is that suddenly, white folks are claiming Obama as “half white”, like that makes it ok.
    Ask yourself if you know any black people without white blood inside of them. Most of us who were decendents of slaves have white blood in us, AND YOU KNOW WHY!
    But none of you white people are claiming me as a cousin, or less black! When the cops pull any of us over, including Barack, they dont give a shit if we have a white mother!

  52. CJB said,

    on June 13th, 2008 at 10:01 am

    a vote is a vote - go ahead white supremists - vote for Obama. I don’t care, and I’m not afraid of you. Just as long as he wins, I don’t care what people’s reasons are for voting.


  53. on June 13th, 2008 at 10:42 am

    It’s good to see that there are Americans of every race, social background and political persuasion who think that these nutters are just what they are - nutters. All that hate; can’t be good for the system. And perhaps it would be a good idea if they di vote for Barack Obama, since it would be the most intelligent thing they ever did in their lives. It’s a sad day though when the only thing that anyone can do is to find fault with others for no other reason than their paranoid hatred of them.

    I guess that in-breeding among these people - even wild animals go to great lengths to avoid this practice by kicking pubescent and adult opposite sexes out of the herd or pack - is a contributory factor. Not least because these people inherit all the worst charcteristics of their race; and boy do these nutters have some.

    One major consoltaion, though, is that they’re nonentities - people with nothing worthwhile to say or listen to. These idiots even believe that America belongs to them because they’re white, this nothwithstanding the presence of the native American who still lives there. And in case they forget, however conveniently so, Blacks didn’t leave Africa voluntarily and decided to go to what is now the USA, they were forcibly transported there - and who by? Morons such as these nutters.

    In reality, it’s all about their zealousy and the fact that in whatever society they were in - even an all white one - they would still be at the bottom of the intellectual, social and economic pile. So they have to look for something to justify their presence in this world, and skin colour to them is that, since race is a non-issue. I can mate with a horse if I were so depraved (which I’m not) but it wouldn’t produce any offspring, either human or animal. And the fact that a member of any race, so long as he or she is fertile, can mate with someone of another race in a similar position and produce an offspring shows how disingenuous the argument of these cretins are.

    For my part I’m a graduate and postgraduate several times over with two PhDs and a Professorship by academic qualification; I hold several masters and joint honours degrees from some of the world’s leading universities in the UK, the EU and elsewhere. I’m also a practising university professor and I’m BLACK. So my advice to your sad and pathetic morons is to get a live. Nio one, except your own ilk, cares much for what you have to say because we’re too busy getting on with profitable lives of our own.

    Professor Dr. Stanley Collymore
    London, England.

  54. PJM said,

    on June 13th, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    Another notable white supremacist ideologue backing Obama is Bradley Dean Griffin (possibly a pseudonym), more commonly known Fade the Butcher/Prozium. He founded the neo-nazi forum thephora.net which is on the ADL watchlist:

    http://www.adl.org/main_Extrem.....ooting.htm

    and now has a blog on the official Obama site:

    http://my.barackobama.com/page.....og/prozium

    I suspect the neo-nazi / Obama connection is attributable to the idea abroad that Senator Obama is ‘weak’ on Israel.

  55. jose rivera said,

    on June 13th, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    i have known many a racist in my day and i can unequivocally state that i have never met a brave racist in that time. i have friends who subscribe to the supremacist mentality, but if they are true racists then they should stand up and be counted as such. they are only brave around their own kind never in front of someone of a different ehtnicity, especially if that someone can kick their ass and hurt their feelings. they fear me because i am a threat to their wellbeing, glad you all are coming out of the closet, too late, bush and pals are leaving town, dont let the door hit you on the way out. pray, pray, pray. namaste

  56. tyler yeager said,

    on June 13th, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    i think all you white people hating on black, jewish and all other races dont have the brains to think. your minds are still in the past century, i think to my knowledge now this is the future, all those racist things have ended. the only reason you guys are hating cause you done have jobs, your hopeless in life. if your arguin about America goin down, go back to europe,i think you’ll love it there. besides im a German American, i hate everything that had to do with that f*ck head “hitler”, im not into all those racsist crap. GROW UP…..i really do hope obama wins.i think he would be a good president.

    Tyler Yeager


  57. on June 13th, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    Maybe OBama’s election as president will wake-up
    people to the fact that neither ‘democracy’ nor the
    present christian religion is going to really change
    anything in America. Under our present system of government we are going to continue towards third
    world status as millions of non-whites flood into our
    country and subvert everything our founding fathers
    and pioneers sacrificed and worked for. The present
    generation of young white people think they’re so-
    called intellectual when in actuality they’ve been
    brainwashed by marxist-educational programs that
    goes against nature and common sense.

  58. JigabooBoi said,

    on June 13th, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    What?

    “White people” will disown you as the miscreant cave dwelling neanderthal s that you are.

    I think that there were two bi-pedal hominid species in Northern europe 50,000 years ago, those from which “we” came were Homo-sapiens and “you” and yours from cavemen, or rather neanderthals.

    I understand your ancient angst, we eradicated the majority of your species tens of thousands of years ago. Some of us developed attachments for the few man-like beasts which remained, the mentally ill amongst us mated with your kind and thus fate left you and your an avenue into modernity. Now like then you can’t recognize whats happening around you, looking at the skin many of us look like you, but thats where it stops. You are a dying breed, the world has out grown you, your children are being raised more progressive than at anytime you can remember.

    They are not yours, they will not validate your self-hatred, we are homo-sapiens, this is our earth, our era, our COUNTRY you live in the woods and imagine yourselves in our shoes, they will not fit you beastly feet.

    Your hate doesn’t deserve consideration.

  59. cliff said,

    on June 13th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    America needs to keep in mind that a lot more blacks are educated than pre 1863 and the world is watching. I will die before I become enslaved again or watch my people become so.

  60. Al Champagne said,

    on June 13th, 2008 at 11:46 pm

    If you skinheads and klansmen think you can take on the U.S. Marines in your race war, you have another thing comming. If you attempt to hook up with al-Queda to orchestrate another 9/11, you will both be thwarted.

  61. rabbi josiah said,

    on June 14th, 2008 at 3:36 am

    As I have read the above mentioned posts here, I am summarily amused at all the rantings of the alleged professed christians. Does not your bible state that as a christian you are not to judge, for when (not if) you judge others for whatever the reason, that judgment shall be meted out to you ten fold or even one-hundred fold?
    Furthermore, when I read posts, such as the alleged good Dr. Stanley Collymore, debasing another race, ( for whatever reason) making lewd comments about that persons linage, and how they were born of this corrupt immoral world would tend to allow me to see into their soul.
    I remember this little prayer from Yeshiva

    Lord, Bind and Gag and loose from their assignments all unclean and unrighteous spirits, and hold their souls unto Melechizedek, and cast them unto the high an dry place.

    Bind and Gag all cross prayers, and cross-bearers.

    In the little world of psychology, (some whom have declared this to be the practice of demons) after saying that I find the statements of the good doctor blowing his own horn shows much insecurityon his part.Why do I make these statements here, well, when someone blows their own horn shows that person needs recognition for whatever reason.

    Personally I joined this discussion group, and this site because of the hate, discourse in this country. I actually found this site by following a link that I thought was of other intentions.
    The research that I have done of the southern poverty law center shows a group of dedicated men and women of whom are doing the good fight to stem hate in this country.
    However that behavior HATE, is a learned behavior, as much with what we do as adults. My blessed mother would say: ” children are miniature adults in training without a manual ” So as adults we are programmed and or trained. So, if we learn HATE, as a child then we will HATE as adults.
    Those who are alleged white supremists learned this as children, so they pass this learned behavior on to their children.
    NOT because these men and women are inbreed, but rather because of their up bringing, not for any other reasoning.
    So when anyone brings up these racists behavior, it is not due to any inbreeding, but rather that of how they were raised by their parents.

    So those type of comments really disturb me, so in closing I leave you with this comment

    WISDOM = THE PROPER USE OF KNOWLEDGE

  62. RC said,

    on June 14th, 2008 at 7:21 am

    Stan Collymore *laughs hysterically*

    You’re either completely insane or hilarious. I love the idea of Stan Collymore as an academic; incidentally, no-one would ever, ever, ever, refer to themselves as “Professor Dr”; it’s the same as referring to oneself as “Sir Mr”

  63. Philip said,

    on June 14th, 2008 at 8:23 am

    The Obama candidacy is going to bring out a lot of racism in the following months. To address poster “Justin”, it’s not meant to be people who don’t vote for him based on policy, other preferred candidates, etc, but the people who fear or hate the thought of an African American for president.

    In the next 5 months there will be an explosion of hate speech, innuendo from politicians, PACS, Southern strategies, hate rallies, etc… Some will be against Obama, others will be for him in hopes of a race war.

    Obama’s run will likely be equivalent to Jackie Robinson’s becoming the first black baseball player. It caused a lot of controversy, but shortly after he started to play, the controversy went away and professional baseball was opened up.

    Obama will do the same. When he’s elected his policies, ability to persuade, and ability to bring Republicans along will make people respect him as a good politician and leader for the American people. The race issue regarding the presidency will evaporate quickly. It won’t be an end-all to racism and hate in America, but it will represent a major leap forward.

  64. JN said,

    on June 14th, 2008 at 11:18 am

    They dont fool me one bit. Apparently John McCain is such a terrible candidate that even Neo-Nazis are finding ways to vote against him.

  65. Hurin said,

    on June 14th, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    Something tells me this might not go the way they hope. When Obama ends up being a popular president with wide demographic support, and a salve for some of the racial division, I wonder what the response will be. I hope the Secret Service is clear on the magnatude of their job in guarding this man.

  66. truth said,

    on June 14th, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    It’s really amazing how SPLC’ers like you guys drink the Kool-Aid.

    Obama has spent 20 years of his life in a white-hating, anti-American church. He has a wife who seethes in anger over whites and America even though she is privilege by unearned affirmative action. Obama hangs out with Weather Underground terrorists. And, somehow, you think this guy is going to “transcend” race and bring “healing” to America? You criticize the neo-Nazis for being delusional, yet you are all gripped in a similar delusion. You think being a “race-traitor” is going to make you less white in the eyes of the minority thugs. You’re going to learn the hard way.

    Furthermore, for all of your Bush-hating, you are missing one essential truth: Bush is a liberal. The purpose of the Iraq War and the War on Terror was to make America safe for liberals. After all, nuclear terrorism is problem for New York City…not for Lubbock, Texas. In fact, terrorism is almost purely a Democrat problem since the juicy nuclear targets are all Democrat cities.

    So the “white supremacists” don’t have to count on some race war emerging when whites realize what a bad deal Obama was. All they have to count on is Obama tearing down the national security state, bringing all the troops home, radically expanding immigration, and ,as a result, making it easier for al-Qaeda to set off a nuclear bomb in NYC. The result is to thin the population of liberals (black, white, asian, Muslim, whatever) by 10-20% and thus shift the country to the hard Right. The balance of the nation will be so gripped with fear that they will lay their freedom at the feet of the Right in exchange for security.


  67. on June 14th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    You have your plans; God has His plans. Can you defeat your Creator in this battle? Or you do not believe or think you are God’s creature. Obama is too! As I read some of your comments and wondered: God repeated: “Let not your heart be troubled by their comments, this time it is the Lord’s battle. Just watch.” My brothers and sisters of KKK, God is a consuming fire. When He reveals His plans, then as usual He is ahead of you and will take you all by surprise. He sees all things. If you got away in the past, not so again. Shalom.

  68. AbbieHoffman said,

    on June 14th, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    It’s absolutely amazing that people’s brains actually think this way. It’s like studying an alien - I am awed at the moronic level of their rationale.

    I would be rolling on the floor laughing if I weren’t a bit afraid they might hurt Obama’s when this backfires on them.

  69. Jean said,

    on June 14th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    More on why Senator Obama is the best choice for the nation on Acropolis Review. http://acropolisreview.com/200.....-your.html

  70. Wilbur said,

    on June 14th, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    WASPs for Obama! Obama needs yall now!

  71. D.J. Racist Ryke said,

    on June 14th, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    If Sen. Juan McCain were to be elected as the next President–we`re f*cked.
    He shares the same policies as the Bush Administration and what’s worse than that??? He grants AMNESTY TO ILLEGALS ALREADY IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY. This is what some of those dumbed down retrograded Natavists want by voting for John McCain? Now that’s real hyprocrisy.

    Under the banner of Obama, he will do what’s best for this great nation that John McCain won’t do.
    In fact John McCain wants to “stay in Iraq for another 100 years”. We can’t have that.

    That’s why we need Barak Obama!!

  72. Bill Graziano said,

    on June 15th, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    You poor scared, wihte supremacist groups. Do you fear losing your perception and degree of control and influence because you finally discovered most of America is not like you? We have finally got to a point in our nation’s history where it is possible we can elect a person not based on color, creed, gender… Even though I intend to vote John McCain, solely because of his political/military experience and views, I feel proud that we as a nation have Sen Barack Obama in the race as I was proud that Sen Hillary Clinton was in the race. It will be a great race. Bring on the debates. and you bigots can go back to under your rock from which you crawled.

  73. Tom said,

    on June 16th, 2008 at 9:29 am

    Is it just me, or does it seem like white supremacists have gone soft as of late?

  74. Sheralyn said,

    on June 16th, 2008 at 11:13 am

    I’m white and will be proud to vote for Obama - he’s the best candidate we’ve had in ages! Race should NEVER be an issue and I do my best in my own way to fight racism always. We are all God’s children - no, I’m not religious but a believer - and we must ERASE THE HATE. Best of luck, Obama!


  75. on June 16th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    “mike” hath it that:


    I could care less about his color. The fact that he’s left of Lenin is what scares the shit out of me.

    Could we please have some substantiation of the “left of Lenin” claim?

    And Another Thing:

    Communists were never really interested in promoting “the Great Unity of the Peoples of the World,” instead seeing in National Minorities little better than cheap pawns for propaganda purposes.

  76. rabbi josiah said,

    on June 16th, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    RESPONSE TO POSTER “truth”
    sir, pray tell, inform me of your rantings from which you spout from your mouth.
    You speak of alleged facts not in evidence as to Mr. Obama’s 20 yr history of hate, you speak ill of his wife, you speak of that Mr. Obama ” hanged out with Ayers, weather underground . . . .” Your rantings are much akin to the leftest William O’rielly, Sean Hannity, and other PNJ’s from fox not newsworthy, now that man is a true facist, and communist. Since you use his words you also must be of the leftist communist regime also.
    Not one commenter, not one pundit has addressed this important question:
    FOR THE ALLEGED 20 YEARS AT TRINITY CHURCH, HOW MANY TIMES DID MR. OBAMA ACTUALLY STOOD IN ATTENDANCE, AND HEARD THE PASTOR RIGHT PREACH ?
    So, mr. truth, tell me where you get your rantings, opps evidence, as to spout off as you do?

  77. drano milkshake said,

    on June 19th, 2008 at 2:07 am

    remember kiddies, this is all just a bullshit, three-ring, circus sideshow. oh, and dont forget, learn to swim!

  78. Jennifer Dumas said,

    on June 19th, 2008 at 8:36 am

    I hate Obama, I think he is a racists, just like all Blacks. Black people are racists just as much as White people. I am White and Proud of it.

  79. From Florida said,

    on June 20th, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    This is an interesting article but missed the main issue. White supremacists support Obama because he is seen as a black separatist who will further that agenda regardless of his own ethnicity, nothing more. Unless he is elected and does an even worse job the Bush, which is not likely, he’s not racism’s poster child.

  80. Liberal hater said,

    on June 21st, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    Michael Savage is right when he says “Liberalism is a mental disorder.
    Where are these so-called white supremacist and just how much power do they yield in 2008. Or maybe you left-wing idiots think that anyone who is conservative is a racist. Well that just shows how uneducated and stupid you radical leftist are or your nothing more than a pack of filthy liars.
    True racism in the year 2008 comes not from the white community but from the black and hispanic communities. Obama and his ilk are nothing more than black radicals who hate America and white people.
    SPLC is made up of left-wing loons who are communist and hate America and God. They tear down white people, who incidentally made this country great, and they promote black and hispanic hatred towards all white people. Please, if you disagree with me then kiss my white, honky ass.

  81. Sam said,

    on June 22nd, 2008 at 1:03 am

    I think that there were two bi-pedal hominid species in Northern europe 50,000 years ago, those from which “we” came were Homo-sapiens and “you” and yours from cavemen, or rather neanderthals

    Wow, these comments are FULL OF HATE. This guy sounds like a Nazi!

    Gee, must be great to have a convenient “scape goat” for all of society’s problems (i.e. low class whites from the Heartland), but some of us aren’t buying the “multicultural touchy-feely” version of history or real life. The SPLC exists so a.) they can rake in money, b.) they can rake in MORE money, c.) they can promote Marxism, d.) they can label ANY of their ideological opponents with whatever smear they want.

    Yes, in much the same way as it was once fashionable to rail against “witches”, it is now fashionable to “hate” so-called “Nazis”, and any other species of European that DARES to utter something sympathetic toward his own genotype. Yawn. Liberals have a little one track mind, and every train runs toward the same destination, a bloody GULAG where “Freedom is Slavery”, and “Ignorance is Strength”, and “Crimespeak Does Not Entail Death, Crimespeak IS Death”.

    But don’t worry. Most of us “rednecks” and “toothless white idjits” are so disenfranchised and disaffected that we don’t intend to VOTE in this country ever again…

    that, my communist friends, is what should really worry you.

    Best regards.

  82. Ron said,

    on June 22nd, 2008 at 8:15 am

    SPLC claims to be against “hate,” but I wonder if you will care at all about this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN5StQAr7n0

    Probably not. There is only one definition of “hate” for you, and that is the love that European Americans have for their own culture and people. The culture and people of the Founding Fathers. The culture and people that has produced, over the centuries, the laws you use to make your livelihoods. No, these are evils that must be exterminated. You are of one mind with the man in that video.

    I highly doubt that you will fail to censor my remarks, because these facts fly in the face of the seriously perverted world view espoused here, but perhaps you will surprise me.

  83. Romulus said,

    on June 22nd, 2008 at 8:42 am

    George Bush has been one of America’s greatest Presidents. First, we have not experienced a major terrorist attack on this country since 2001. Second, even though Europe and the rest of the world would have us abandon Iraq, Bush has stayed the course and done what is necessary to begin bringing democracy to the middle east. While gas prices have risen, anyone in the White House can do very little to change gas prices.

    I feel sorry for Obama. So many people have built up such great expectations for this man that if he is elected he will be expected to perform miracles such as parting the Potomac. Anything less than that will leave people feeling that Obama is a failure.

    Like the earlier poster stated, Obama may suffer from McCain supporters being labeled as racists. Personally, I like some of McCain’s ideas and he does have a history of bipartisanship, so I am voting for him. I tried to explain this to a coworker during lunch and she immediately told me that “haters needed to be imprisoned.” Isn’t it ironic that a candidate who does seem to inspire coming together has so many supporters who are bent on demeaning and attacking others?

    Finally, regardless of how vile the ideas coming from these supremacist groups may be, they have a right to say these things. The America I truly fear is one where individuals do not have the right to express their ideas, regardless of how repugnant those idea may be.

  84. Shaz said,

    on June 22nd, 2008 at 11:21 am

    I can’t believe this. I mean what happened to america bieng the “melting pot” of different cultures and religions, that’s one of the main reasons I love this country. Come on, we’re living in the 21st century and we still have ignorant white supremacists. That makes me sad.

  85. Mr. Baxter said,

    on June 22nd, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    So, if they don’t like Senator McCain, who are these lovely gentlement going to vote for? Bob Barr? We suspect that perhaps former Representative Barr is a decent enough person to not appreciate their support. So we suppose that these morons will just stay home on Election Day. Sounds good to us.

  86. nosam said,

    on June 23rd, 2008 at 12:31 am

    Has anyone here ever noticed that apes of different types, chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans don’t live together. There is a reason. They will fight, they will be in direct competition with each other. So, they choose to stay away from one another. It is safer for all. Now I know some dolt is going to say “we are not monkeys”… no, we are naked apes. Multiculturalism has never worked throughout history, so why would you think it works now? I don’t hate other races, I just prefer to live with my own kind. I know it works better that way. I think it’s sad to see so many here using the words “ignorant white supremacists”. Let me ask you. would you rather live in a community of your own kind, or a community where you are the only one of your kind? I think we all know the answer. Many of you are misguided by the media, doing what you are told, thinking what you are told, acting as you are told…. all by the controlling media. So, go watch the boob tube, and maybe think about why they call it TV programming. Wake up.

  87. Jason said,

    on June 23rd, 2008 at 6:49 am

    I read the article above. It’s stupid. Then I went to David Dukes’ website and read the original. There’s nothing wrong with it.

    There’s nothing wrong with being White. White people have a right to exist. The White race has a right to exist. And Whites have a right to work opening for their own group interests.

    40,000 White women are raped by Blacks every year in America. That comes straight from department of justice statistics. Do you know how many inter-racial White on Black rapes there were last year? The answer is less than 10.

    The 40,000 number is low too. Because more than 50% of women who are raped never report it to the police. This also doesn’t take into account all the everyday cases where Blacks are learing at White women, bushing up against them in public, fondleing them, making disgusting, filthy remarks to them.

    I’m sick of this degradation the women of my race face daily. It is revolting.

  88. RJ said,

    on June 23rd, 2008 at 7:59 am

    OK Nosam, you stay in your chimp neighborhood and I’ll stay in my cutturally mixed neighborhood with real people. Chimps like you speak one language. The real people in my neighborhood speak everythng from Albanian to Swahili. My family gets to sample foods from all over the world. We get to talk to real people about their homelands of origin as well as their adopted homeland. I get to see them work hard to achieve the American Dream. I get to see people from totally different backgrounds and countries band together to start a small business. I even get to play uncle to their little ones.

    You, Nosam, get to hang with your racist ape friends, scratch, and eat bananas.

  89. Sam said,

    on June 23rd, 2008 at 9:33 am

    So, if they don’t like Senator McCain, who are these lovely gentlement going to vote for? Bob Barr? We suspect that perhaps former Representative Barr is a decent enough person to not appreciate their support. So we suppose that these morons will just stay home on Election Day. Sounds good to us.–Baxter

    Sure. Keep alienating the white majority. I’m sure that will make all these issues disappear, and all problems will solve themselves. ROTFLMAO.

    The Left and their gift of illogic sometimes leaves me dumbfounded.

    Moron.

  90. Robert said,

    on June 23rd, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    Jason said on June 23rd, 2008 at 6:49 am

    “40,000 White women are raped by Blacks every year in America. That comes straight from department of justice statistics. Do you know how many inter-racial White on Black rapes there were last year? The answer is less than 10″

    If you are going to quote statistics with any believability, Jason, you must not only name your source, but where those numbers can be found and verified. Because you, and many others like you, quote wild statistics without any way to confirm them, I personally believe you made this up and I would be willing to bet my life upon it.
    Your gift for fanning the flames of hatred and ignorance leave me not dumbfounded but sad; sad that you can come to a forum like this and can only fill the space allotted you with lies and hatred. May God forgive you, not so much for the hate in your own heart, but for the malice you continue to stir up in the hearts and minds of others who think like you. I as a white, Southern born and raised male who finally learned to disregard the lies of the Klan and became an anti-racist, will stand with my black, brown, yellow and red brothers and sisters to resist your attempts to turn this nation into a hellhole of leering white faces.

  91. michelle said,

    on June 23rd, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    First I want to say, bless you, Robert, for finally having seen through the racist BS and for no longer drinking the Kool-aid. To nosam and Jason,you are both full of s***. Unless you can come with a link or source to verify your BS claims, not a single damn word you say is believable or credible, because it’s so clearly racist and biased–you sound like you watched THE BIRTH OF A NATION one too many times if you really believe that BS. Tell me something–why the hell do white racists always act like white women are the only women on earth a black man could possibly be interested in? Last time I looked,there were and are OTHER women on the planet besides them. Nosam, multiculturalism has ALWAYS existed wherever different cultures and races decided they could get along to each’s other’s benefit.

    Yeah, white people have a right to whatever they need as long as they worked and paid for it, but y’all sure as hell haven’t got a damn claim on it. Last time I looked, black people were and ARE Americans—I don’t know where white Americans like act like theyr’e the only damn people in history who made this country what it is—keep in mind it was OUR free,unpaid SLAVE labor your ancestors used for nearly the first 350 years of this country to make them rich. And we still work hard as hell, too–forget what Clinton said. This is OUR damn country too, you stupid,racist bastards!
    And another point I want to make to the unnamed poster—it was YOUR ancestors that DENIED us full rights as human beings and treated us like f***ing animals—the slavemasters built us separate schools and churches because they did NOT want us near them—THAT’S why black people still have their separate institutions to this day–because we were FORCED to stay in those places to begin with. If you would actually read about black history in this country, which is actually AMERICAN history, you would already know this.

    To Jennifer Dumas: What proof do you have that Obama is a racist? NONE. If black people are racist against whites, believe me, it’s because white people were racist as hell against us and treated us as lower than dogs, no matter what we did for this country, even though we fought in every war to defend a country that still didn’t see us human no matter how damn much we had to to prove over and over again that we had earned just as much damn right to be here as anyone else. So y’all started the hate and then you have the nerve to try and turn it around and justify the hate you started by flipping it on us? Please—you’ll full of s***—you probably just hate us because you think it’s cool s***, not because you really believe that. Anyway, Obama’s gotten be president, that’s a fact, so why don’t you dumb-ass white supremacists get a one-way passport to Europe, or just kil your damn selves,please!

  92. Sam said,

    on June 23rd, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    Um, Robert, have you checked with any of your “brown, black, red, yellow” brothers on their feelings about you including yourself as “one of the family”?

    They most assuredly will not feel as cozy about the arrangement as you do.

    Moron.

  93. arch said,

    on June 23rd, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    BARRETT PREDICTS OBAMA GOING IN, THEN OUT

    Rip Daniels: My guest is a lawyer, former-candidate for Governor,
    garnered 300,000 close to 400,000 votes. Last time we chatted, you
    were down representing and working with those opposing the
    “Jena-Six”.

    Richard Barrett: Yes, at Jena. And, I’m here today, to speak just as
    Richard Barrett, by myself, not in behalf of any organization, so we
    can really get into the political thing. I was chairman of “Democrats
    for Reagan,” I was a delegate for Governor Wallace and I was head of
    the “Youth for Wallace.” So, my credentials are as a working-man’s
    Democrat and that’s why I am going to predict today that Obama is
    going in.

    Daniels: He’s going to win?

    Barrett: He’s going to win, in a landslide, but it’s going to provoke
    such a revolt that we may have a revolution in this country. But,
    it’s really going to turn things around and that’s what I have been
    trying to do, all this time.

    Daniels: The Skinhead-concept is that there is going to be a
    race-war. Is that what you are suggesting, is that there is going to
    be a race-war?

    Barrett: Well, the first thing we are going to have is an impeachment
    of George W. Bush. And, the ultimate impeachment is by the voters.
    And, they’re going to vote him out: the Cheneys, the Rumsfelds, the
    atrocities, the dishonor, the disgrace. It’s all going to be voted out.
    Jesus had to go to the cross and die for there to be a resurrection.
    So, it may be that Obama is going to have to go in, to wreck the
    country, but, then, we’re going to build it back.

    Daniels: Do I assume, then, Mr. Barrett, as an individual, of course,
    that you are going to vote for Obama?

    Barrett: I have been asked that, but I am going to answer by saying
    not who I am going to vote for, but who I am not going to vote for. I
    am not going to vote for McCain, Nader or any of the rest. I can
    promise you that.

    Daniels: Not voting for McCain?

    Barrett: Not at all. In fact, I wrote to Travis Childers and Gene Taylor
    and asked them to please remain uncommitted, which they are,
    in the Democratic race, and I am glad they did, because that is
    what their constituents want. They don’t want the frauds and the
    “big-shots,” like Trent Lott, selling us out. They want to be true to
    their roots, but there’s going to be some change in November and
    change is good. If somebody can come from nowhere, for the
    minorities, and take over, that means that, eventually, someone
    can come from the majority, to rise up, and that is what I want.

    Daniels: You have had, let’s see, every President has been
    Caucasian, from that majority, as you’ve said.

    Barrett: The interesting thing is, you remember, in 1994, the
    Republican Revolution was supposed to wipe out the so-called
    civil-rights era, to turn it all back, to get rid of Earl Warren, LBJ
    and all the rest. Instead, you get people like Dan Quayle, who get up
    and say, “Oh, we didn’t do enough for the Negro.” And, then, Newt
    Gingrich. He was put in by Lester Maddox, and, then, he turns his
    back on him. So, now, the voters are going to say, “Let’s have some
    real change” and that’s going to be exciting. But, remember Cromwell,
    in England. He was a big “change” figure, but, then, they kicked him
    out. Allende, down in Chile. He was a Communist and was elected.
    But, then, they kicked him out. Gray Davis in California. He went in
    and, then, he was turned out. So, that’s what is going to happen, here.

    Daniels: Then, of course, you had George Herbert Walker Bush,
    who did not get a second-term. As I listen to you, I am getting the
    impression that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

    Barrett: Yes, it’s not new. FDR used Stalin to bring down the Germans.
    The Kaiser used Lenin to bring down Russia. And, Andrew Jackson
    even conscripted Indians to bring down the British. So, using Obama
    to “clean-house” in the White House would not be unprecedented.
    It’s risky, like using chemo-therapy. You might kill the patient,
    but, it might, in the long-run, help us get some real change.

    Daniels: Now speaking about the Skinheads and the Klan. I know
    that you are speaking, just individually, for yourself, but do you think
    that many of them might be thinking that Obama could be a good
    thing, in the cause of “helter-skelter”?

    Barrett: You notice that I was there at Jackson State, when Obama
    was there. I was one of about six white people in the whole auditorium.
    Obama came up to me and I gave him the “thumbs-down” gesture.
    Then, he turned around and walked away. I don’t want to seem that
    I am “for” Obama, but, rather, “against” the Bush and the Clinton
    dynasties. And, that is what is important. Being “for” the
    “impeachment” aspect of the vote, not being “for” Obama.

    Daniels: Now, let’s get to Ishmael on the phone.

    Ishmael: There’s not a thin dime’s worth of difference between a
    Republican and a Democrat.

    Barrett: He’s right. And so are you.

    Daniels: What did you do for George Wallace? You were his what?

    Barrett: I was a delegate here in Mississippi for him. I was the
    executive-director of his Independent-Party effort in South Carolina
    and, then, I was head of the “Youth for Wallace”, back in the
    Sixties.

    Daniels: All right, but what you have here are individuals, who are
    alarmed over the fact that an African-American is not dependant
    and/or beholden. So, they see Minister Farrakhan, talking about being
    self-sufficient and pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, as being
    a threat.

    Barrett: The real issue, though, Rip, is not so much me trying to
    characterize the Negro point-of-view, although I would condemn such
    things as the so-called “Negro-empowerment.” But, when we have the
    Republican Party, which is entirely segregated, and, then, you have
    somebody like George W. Bush, putting more Negroes and aliens in
    than anyone else, it’s a betrayal of the Caucasians by their own people
    that’s brought us where we are. You had asked, a while ago, what we
    are going to have, coming post-Obama. You had asked how we are
    really going to get rid of this. We could have a revolution, in this
    country. It is not unprecedented. We’ve had one, before. We could
    have a major voting-uprising, as Governor Wallace did. He was uniting
    the country, on a segregationist-platform. Or, we could have people
    like Phyllis Schlafly and Thomas Paine, just changing the mood of the
    electorate, so that we have a whole new attitude in this country.
    And, I hope we do.

    Daniels: Mr. Barrett, if, by chance, we did a genealogy-study and
    found out that I was your first-cousin, would you welcome me into the
    family?

    Barrett: I had this same discussion with Joel Gill.

    Daniels: I am a “Black-American.”

    Barrett: Gill is a Democratic Congressional-candidate in the Third
    District. We were talking and I said that, of course, this is a
    “Democratic Year” and we need conservative Democrats in. I had
    endorsed Travis Childers and was thinking about endorsing him and
    then he said, “You know, I have a ‘blended’ family.’” I said, “What
    do you mean?” He said, “My grandchildren are mixed-Negroes. They
    had children with Negroes.” I said, “How do you feel about that?” He
    said, “I am from an eighty-percent Negro town, so I have to go in
    that direction.” So, that man is going down. Americans don’t want the
    “blending” and the mixing, but we do want self-determination. I want
    Rip to have his people, to have his radio-station and his voice, but
    not to override the majority.

    Daniels: Where did you get this information that America does not
    want to blend?

    Barrett: Look at the marriage-license bureaus.

    Daniels: You see an increase in mixed-marriages.

    Barrett: Not very much.

    Daniels: I think it has been significant, especially in the military.

    Barrett: Not really, but, I’ll tell you what we have had an increase
    in. Since 1954, in the “Brown versus Board” decision, in that year,
    six-percent of Negroes in this country were unemployed. It’s now
    up to ten times than amount, in many places. Forty-percent were
    illegitimate. It’s now close to ninety-percent. Twenty-percent were
    in jail. Now, it’s up to eighty-five percent prison-population, with
    one out of four Negro-males either on parole or in jail. Now, I find
    that unacceptable.

    Daniels: Where did you get that from?

    Barrett: I got that because it’s accurate. But you know, as well as I
    do, Rip, that integration and the forced-integration has created a
    boiling cauldron in this country, which is going to boil over with
    Obama, but that’s going to be the “watershed.” All these people, who
    had sat back and said, “It will never touch me,” the ones who have
    moved out, the white-flight, private-schools and all the rest, now
    they’re going to say, “We’re going to take this country back” and
    it’s going to radicalize the masses, as hasn’t been done since the
    American Revolution.

    Daniels: You think that Caucasians are going to say regain
    racial-purity for Caucasians and that would be to your liking?

    Barrett: You are going to see some major reforms, such as
    disenfranchising of minorities and aliens. We did this with the
    Japanese in World War II.

    Daniels: Put them in concentration-camps.

    Barrett: We did. And, we did the same thing with the Indians. You’re
    going to see repatriation, Rip. Post-Obama. You’re going to see a
    whole bunch of people, who are going to say, look, kind of like the
    Hillary people getting upset and voting for McCain, they’re going to
    say, “If we can’t have Obama, we’re going to leave the country” and
    I say, “Good-riddance.” And, then, you’re going to have a change in
    citizenship, divesting people who have been calling this a “racist,”
    “bigoted,” “hateful,” “murdering” country. We’re going to have
    citizenship by worth, not by birth. And, you’re going to have a whole
    new birth of freedom in this country. It’s going to be radical. It’s
    going to be dramatic, but it’s going to happen.

    Daniels: And, at the very top of the pendulum, of the government
    that you perceive happening, would be, what? Richard Barrett for
    President?

    Barrett: I am not going to say, like Hillary, that I am “available,”
    but I do see young people coming along. I have a voice. I know that
    the pendulum will swing back, because “danger invites rescue” and
    “captivity leads to resistance.” We’re going into the valley of the
    shadow of death, under Obamanation, but, we’re going to look back
    at this day, Rip, and say, “Up from that grave we arose. Hallelujah.
    We arose.”

    Daniels: Mr. Barrett, does Obama get any points for having a
    Caucasian mother and being reared by Caucasian grandparents?

    Barrett: Obama is just a reaction to the Bush-atrocities, that’s all
    he is. You’ve got the Pillsbury-doughboy. That’s McCain. You’ve
    got the Wicked-Witch. That’s Hillary. It’s a terrible choice, but it is
    going to have to come in order to “cauterize” the wounds of this
    country.

    Daniels: But, does Obama get any points for having a Caucasian
    mother and being reared by Caucasian grandparents?

    Barrett: No, because it’s the same thing as this homosexual
    “marriage” in California. There’s going to be a vote in November
    and they’re going to vote it out. But, first, it had to get in. So,
    Obamanation is going to take hold and, then, it’s going to be
    overthrown.

    Daniels: So, you resent the fact that Senator Obama was the
    offspring of a Caucasian female from Kansas and a Kenyan Negro?

    Barrett: Absolutely. God has drawn the bounds of the habitations of
    the nations and Phineas even slew a mixed-couple, in the Bible,
    because it displeased the Lord.

    Daniels: So, what ethnicity was Jesus?

    Barrett: God is a spirit and you worship Him in spirit and in truth.
    Jesus was an “immaculate conception.” God is a spirit.

    Daniels: This is the kind of lunacy I hear all the time. They claim
    they love Jesus, but can’t stand a Jew. By the way, last night I was
    at the Beth-Israel big gala there at the “Hard Rock”. Are you Jewish?

    Barrett: Actually, I am part German and part Irish. But, talking
    about worship. I’ll tell you who people on your end are worshiping.
    The “Jena-Six”. I’d like to turn it around, so that we could have an
    “American-Six”. Not to be worshiped, but just honored. People like
    Jeremiah Munsen, the young man, who used his freedom-of-speech
    by putting up a noose protesting the “Jena-Six”. They’re trying to put
    him in jail, now. Chad Huber, who was gunned down by the Mexicans
    in California. Michael Westerman, who flew the flag and was killed
    for it. Chris Kinison, same thing. Alan Coey, who was killed by
    Communists. And, L. D. Smith, who was killed by the Negroes in
    Vietnam, during the Vietnam War, because he had the Mississippi
    flag. That would be the “American Six” and I’d like to see them get
    some honor.

    Daniels: So, I am going to guess that if you guys are thinking that
    there will be “helter-skelter” or that a race-war is imminent, if
    Senator Obama is elected, you guys are starting to get your powder
    dry, sharpen your sabers, getting your cache of arms.

    Barrett: I’m glad you said that, because there, certainly, are people
    who are looking in that direction. I’m not one of them. I prefer
    national-voting. I’d like to abolish the electoral-college and
    abolish laws which prohibit national-voting by referendum. That’s
    how they voted Communism out in Russia. That’s how we can vote
    Obamanation out in this country. It’s going to take some major
    changes, but there was the “Glorious Revolution” in Britain, when
    they got rid of Cromwell, when there wasn’t any bloodshed, and
    that’s my way to do it.

    Daniels: You’ve said what is going to happen if Senator Obama
    goes in, but what if Senator McCain is elected?

    Barrett: He’s not going in. He’s weak, he’s old, he’s the past and
    he’s part of the Bush-dynasty. He’s just a Bush III and people are
    sick of it.

    Daniels: But, he is wearing your preferred ethnicity. He is
    Caucasian.

    Barrett: That is not going to save this man. He is a supporter of
    war-criminals.

    Daniels: So, there are some Caucasians you cannot support?

    Barrett: Absolutely. You notice how I came out against Trent Lott,
    when he went over to Martin Luther King. That is a betrayal and
    people just can’t take it, Rip. I feel about Trent Lott the way you
    feel about Clarence Thomas. There are people who just turn their
    back on their own people and we need to turn our backs on them.

    Daniels: At least, consider that a man was assassinated wrongly. You
    do think that Martin Luther King should not have been assassinated?

    Barrett: I am not for assassination, but the man should have been in
    jail and, then, we would not have all the disruptions and troubles
    we’ve had today. All these other people, Vernon Dahmer, Stokeley
    Carmichael and H. Rap Brown, who, finally, is in jail, that’s where
    they should have been. But, more importantly, is how do we deal with
    the “Obamacons,” the people who are the so-called “conservatives,”
    who are backing Obama. They say that we have got to get out of
    Iraq and he’s the one to do it and, then, we can have a
    conservative-resurrection in this country. I do not necessarily
    agree with that tactic, but they have a point.

    Daniels: You consider yourself a conservative, huh?

    Barrett: No. I am a reformer. I want to sweep the old out.

    Daniels: All right. And, you are going to replace it with your folks,
    obviously. That’s the way you see it. So, who would be the ideal
    candidate for Richard Barrett?

    Barrett: I would say Lester Maddox, if he were still around.

    Daniels: Well, he’s not around.

    Barrett: I know, but we like him.

    Daniels: Who is here, now? Tom Metzger?

    Barrett: I see Travis Childers as a real up-and-comer. I was at his
    victory-rally and he was up there on the stage. He didn’t have any
    mixed-following up there. He had the Confederate-flag on the stage.
    He says he’s for the working-man. He put it this way and I was glad
    to see it. “We want people in there who say y’all and talk like we
    do.” Now, that’s what I want to hear. That’s what America wants.
    People who are real Americans, not “hyphenated” “Americans.”

    Daniels: Wasn’t Childers, also, tied to Senator Obama, as being a
    supporter?

    Barrett: He denied that and it wasn’t true. It was a smear by the
    Cheney-Bush machine.

    Daniels: What do you see happening to the Republican Party, if
    Senator Obama is elected?

    Barrett: We may be seeing the end of the Republican Party. They
    had their chance, but, then, Gingrich blew it, Trent Lott blew it. It may
    go out of business and, frankly, I’d be glad to throw another shovel
    of dirt on it.

    Daniels: Wait, I want to get Herbie in here.

    Herbie: We need to get the white-men, because they are our enemy.
    They are above the law, because they are against not only us, but the
    Indians and anybody else, who does not look like them.

    Barrett: May I respond to that caller?

    Daniels: Go right ahead.

    Barrett: Reverend Wright or whoever he was. I even wrote an article,
    which said that “Wright is right,” because what he did and what that
    caller is doing, Rip, is that they are allowing us, because they are
    being so honest about their views, to bring up the issues of race,
    ethnicity and blood and talk about them. That’s constructive. That
    caller doesn’t want to be around us and some of us may not
    particularly want to be around him, but that’s the great thing about
    America. You can have your voice, you can have your home, you
    can have your music, but so can we. And, when the two collide, then
    the majority rules.

    Daniels: But, I must tell you that the majority, in this case, are
    not at each other’s throats. Contrary to what you might want to
    project, the point is that Americans are sick and tired of talking
    about race. And, it seems as though individuals, like yourself,
    and maybe others, are pre-occupied, like a lot of oxy-cotton,
    conservative talk-shows. I am just pointing out the obvious, that
    most of us are going, huh? What?

    Barrett: If that were true, though, we wouldn’t have people
    objecting, for example, to the Mexican-border being open, because
    they would be saying, “Let’s let the Mexicans in. Why not? They are
    no different than we are.”

    Daniels: But, wait, you are talking about foreigners, here. You’re
    talking about people who are not citizens, here. Your ilk and that
    whole race-thing. It’s hard for you to race-bait and get Caucasians
    to join your ranks.

    Barrett: But, that’s Marxism, which claims that all people are “the
    same” and that everybody ought to be pulled down to one level.

    Daniels: I’m not saying that, at all. Are your ranks, are you
    increasing, right now?

    Barrett: Well, I know that when I ran for Governor, I came in third,
    out of right candidates, and we got 488,000 votes for the flag. That
    ought to tell you, we’re on the move, Rip.

    Daniels: But, you are not saying whether or not your membership is
    increasing. We have the break coming up. Thank you, Mr. Barrett, as
    usual, for being with us, Sir.

    Barrett: Thank you, Rip. I appreciate it.

    Daniels: You were courteous and respectful.

    Barrett: Thank you, very much. Just remember. There is going to
    be a new day, but, after that, there is going to be a whole, brand-new
    day.

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  94. D said,

    on June 24th, 2008 at 1:59 am

    Actually what I think most don’t understand is that even if he dose good it will help the WN movement. See some WNs also think that by getting him elected that it will give blacks no more reason to complain.

    His election would also represent to white America that whites and even WNs have been open. That whites no longer need to hear blacks complain about not haveing power. And this is something that will most likely ring true to many whites.

    Even if he dose good for America it will help WNs because in the future people will look back at this time. And what they will see instead of racist opposing “The first black president” . They will see that these so called racist were open minded to even support him.

    Unlike the WNs who opposed the civil rights movement. Most WN are open to see Obama win. Some may have the theories in mind that SPLC talks about. But surpriseingly many WNs actually would rather see Obama elected not because they hate him, but for his positions.

    Whites have a right to unity and to support who ever they want in politics. Its not about racism but unity among whites.

    I have seen SF grow in less then a year from under 100,000 members to near 140,000 members. Thats a 40,000 rise in less then a year. It took SF over 10 years to reach 100,000 but less then a year to raech 40,000. So wether you think WNs are stupid or not. The truth is they are right about saying Obama as president will help them grow fast.

    Whites are uniting fatser and faster, and its a healthy and good thing. Now unless you don’t think its a good thing then that would make you a racist.

    I am not racist, nor do I if you call me a racist. I am a 16 year old healthy white boy and proud of whom I am. I don’t hate people for who they are, I hate people for their actions. Which include whites as well, I won’t point out racism among blacks if its not fact.

    Please don’t remove my comment!

  95. dubya said,

    on June 24th, 2008 at 6:22 am

    I am marginally a member of SF. Marginally meaning I don’t agree with alot of the ideology, but I find policies like Affirmative Action to be oppressive and racist against whites. Whites still have their toys so they dont care, remove the toys and things will get ugly.

    If Obama marginalizes whites then we are probably on our way to a civil war (which is what the WN community wants.)

    If Obama makes good decisions, good economy etc, then it’s good for white people, 4 more years of prosperity is not a bad thing.

    If Obama does well, most whites will heave a sigh of relief and alot of the anger on WN sites will dissapate, it will change some people’s minds about the perception of blacks.

    Affirmative Action is the main grudge that alot of WN’s have. You get some guy who just got denied a job because he isn’t a minority, the next day he’s on Stormfront.

    BTW most WN’s consider the Republican party worse than Dems. Dems are seen simply as liberal wackjobs. Republicans are seen as undercover Mossad agents.

  96. Indo-Aryan said,

    on June 24th, 2008 at 11:18 am

    I’m not a white nationalist, in fact I am Hindu from India.

    But I do agree with white nationalists. I am a history major and I think American leftists are too arrogant in thinking that this multi-cultural experiment will work. History has shown time and time again that ethnic minorities can only exist together peacefully in times of sloth and greed. As soon as the nation stops being pampered it will fall into chaos. As you can see in present day Iraq, there is ethnic war far between Kurds, Shiites and Sunnis.

    America will be no different. There is already ethnic war far between Blacks and Mexicans in LA, Compton and other cities.

    I may be a nonwhite living in America, but I also do not want to see a Black man as president. America was founded as a White country, and it should only be ruled by Whites. There are plenty of countries in Africa with Black rulers, and look where they are!

    Please, Europeans and European Americans, realize what you are. You are the the founders of civilization, you are truly the higher man. Do not let unworthy people to rule the civilizations you have built! I will not bring my religion into this, but your religion Christianity does not call for you to race mix, and live among other races. I have studied it intensely.

    Take it from an Indian, the world does not want America to be ruled by blacks, just as we would never want blacks to rule our countries. We do believe you need an overall change of your government to bring order and rule back to this Earth, but you are foolish to think the Democrats are not as corrupted as the Republicans!

    Let the White nationalists speak! They are the only honorable and truthful Americans. I’ve lived in America for forty years, and the only White Americans I have ever trusted were the racist ones. Because they are honest with themselves!!!

  97. Crazy said,

    on June 24th, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    This is crazy. People are crazy. There is no country on earth that is made up completely of one race, yet alone the white race. Everyone in this country who is white, your ancestors left Europe to get away from their fellow white Europeans. They left to come to America, where they knew people who were not white lived, for a better life. They came here so their children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc would have a better life. I thank my ancestors everyday that they left Europe and came here. However, people hate people for many more reasons that just race. People are always going to be afraid of what is different. We all need to learn to live with it. Most of us have mastered living our own lives and letting our neighbors live theirs, so long as no one gets hurt. There is no utopia, never has been and there never will be. There is only beauty, and to me the most beautiful sight is a young child who only sees colors in a crayon box.

  98. mary said,

    on June 24th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    This is why you people are so ignorant. America was built on religious freedom and DIVERSITY!! Do you know what that word means? If not, go look it up.
    Even you right(wrong)wing Christians should know that Jesus promoted ALL of mankind, regardless of race, ethnicity, etc. Pick up some intellectual books once in a while, if you can read them and understand them. Get to know real people who inhabit this planet with every right you do, then maybe, by the grace of God, you will open your eyes and see that we are all one.

  99. mary said,

    on June 24th, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    where do these nut jobs come from? It was Bush’s watch when 9/11 happened, with plenty of advance warning from the Clinton Administration. Stop wathing Fox News and get an education!

  100. Greg said,

    on June 24th, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    Diversity doesn’t work. I wish it did. It doesn’t. White women are raped every day, whites murdered, robbed, mugged, assaulted.

    You want us just to stand by and accept it? No.

    Go ask Israel to accept rocket and mortar attacks every day.

    Saying WN’s hate non-whites is like saying Jews hate Palestinians.

    We do not accept diversity at the expense of living with Black Terrorism.

    All you white antis in here are sad. Wait until your wife gets raped, or your kids get jumped after school, or until you yourself get robbed at gunpoint.

    Just like it took 9/11 to realize the terrorism problem, it’s going to take a personal 9/11 for most of you to understand the Black problem.

    Whites are like an abused spouse.

    We want a divorce.

  101. RobertSeattle said,

    on June 25th, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    “Race” is just a human concoction - an artificial categorization of people. It’s used by ignorant people who have a need to feel superior to others.

  102. ellie said,

    on June 25th, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    A black man is the Democratic nominee for the office of the President of the United States.

    White supremacy = IRRELEVANT.

  103. LB said,

    on June 25th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    I’m all for the advancement of our race. The human race. Everything else is an arbitrary diversification of the same genetic pattern. For some reason I don’t fear people who are made from the same basic materials that I’m made of despite their various appearances. I’ve been treated wonderfully by people of every race and I’ve received lousy treatment from every race. Because, as humans, we all have the capacity for good or evil. The fact that anyone over the age of five is actually taking any time and energy to debate the supposed benefits and detriments of one category of humans over another is final proof that evolution isn’t a given. All these years and we still will fight over the stupidest, most arbitrary factors. Way to go, human race.

  104. Mark Gillis said,

    on June 26th, 2008 at 5:26 am

    Wow, about the only thing of value that the White Supremacist’s statement added to my knowledge is the fact that there really are still people who still use the term, “jigaboo”. Will wonders never cease!


  105. on June 26th, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    I am a Romanian white nationalist and normaly I shouldn’t give a damn about what’s happening in you nonwhite infested country, but the fact is that the follow up comments on this article are the most retarded comments that I had the unpleasure to read.
    What’s wrong with you white americans ? Have you no pride left in you ? No dignity ? You truly want to become a minority in this country that your forefathers have created ?
    I simply cannot understand the degree of stupidity that 80% of the people here, espouse.
    Do you want to live as a minority in a negro ruled country ? Just ask the white South Africans and Rhodesians what a “heaven” it is to live under a negro government.
    I realy feel sorry for you white America, because of your ignorance. But I especially feel sorry for your chilldren, for the hell hole country that they will inherit because of your short-sightedness.


  106. on June 27th, 2008 at 5:59 am

    My friend Mark:
    Every time a White Supremacist speaks, I learn once again why I am not, and cannot, be like them, and why also I HAVE TO speak out when they do. Silence means assent, and I cannot by my silence condone their words or their actions.
    I am a Unitarian, and a 50-something hetero white male, and I have had an advantage that most of these “supremacists” have not had, that of taking anti-oppressive training, and I learned a specific definition for racism, which is:
    RACISM = PREJUDICE + POWER.
    We all have prejudices, but racism requires the power to enforce those prejudices. Take a quick look around at who has the power in this society, and though it is shifting, it is still primarily in those who look like me-older, white, heterosexual males. People of color may be prejudiced against whites ( and after the past 350 years of dealing with us,how can I blame them?) but since they do not yet have the POWER to enforce their prejudices, it is impossible for them to be racist. Prejudiced, yes, racist, no.
    BTW, how can you possibly be surprised that people who LIVE in the past talk like those who lived in the past. I’d be willing to bet some of them use the “N” word, but as Marc Antony would have said to Cleopatra, you can bet you ASP they would not use it around an angry young black man. Though my religion teaches me that everyone has worth and dignity, it really pushes me to be able to see it in some of these folks. “Chicken sh*t” is what we would have called ‘em growing up, lacking the faith of their convictions. You really cannot successfully use reason or logic on these folks-they either get it or they don’t-but SOMETIMES a miracle happens and one of them falls for a person of color, and Oh, God it is so sweet to look on while love does the rest!

  107. Prozium said,

    on June 27th, 2008 at 8:32 am

    I value my own life above that of strangers, my own family and friends above non-family, my own kin over non-kin, my own race above other races, and finally I attach some value to humanity in general, in that order. I believe in the existence of racial differences and their relevance to public policy. This puts me in the racialist camp, but I am not a white supremacist or a white nationalist, or even a right-winger. I’m more interested in the manner in which consumer capitalism has degraded Anglo-American culture than anything else. Does this mean I am “the enemy”?

  108. Prozium said,

    on June 27th, 2008 at 11:56 am

    RobertSeattle,

    Race is an “artificial categorization of people” in exactly the same sense that “family” or “clan” is similarly unreal and meaningless, which is to say, not at all. If race were truly irrelevant, there would be no justification to monitor and police hate sites. There would be no hate crimes either.

    Unrelated individuals are naturally suspicious of one another. Humans are naturally tribalistic. All of human history testifies to the reality and persistance of group based conflict. It is “logical,” in an evolutionary sense, to invest in one’s ethny. Enlightened individuals have the capacity to accept and set aside their innate prejudices to work for higher goals such as human betterment.

  109. DONNA said,

    on June 28th, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    Think you know who this man is?

    This possible President of the United States ?? Read Below and

    ask yourselves, is this REALLY someone we can see as the

    President of our great nation!!!!

    Below are a few lines from Obama’s books; In his words!

    From Dreams of My Father:
    ‘I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.’
    From Dreams of My Father : ‘I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.’

    From Dreams of My Father: ‘There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.’

    From Dreams of My Father: ‘It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.’

    From Dreams of My Father: ‘I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa , that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.’

    And FINALLY the Most Damming one of ALL of them!!!

    From Audacity of Hope: ‘I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’

    We CANNOT have someone with this type of mentality running our GREAT nation!!

    I don’t care whether you a Democrat or a Conservative.
    We CANNOT turn ourselves over to this type of character in a President.
    PLEASE help spread the word!

  110. The Inquiring Mind said,

    on June 29th, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    I love it! Obama ‘08. Thanks to the good white folk in Iowa who jump started Obama’s run to the White House. Colin Powell would have made an excellen president as well and prove there are a significant number of white Americans who will vote for a black man to become president.

    BTW, President Obama will be nothing more than a figure head. He still will have to answer to majority of whites in his administration, so dont get your boxers in a knot.

  111. The Gunslinger said,

    on June 29th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    Advance the white race by putting a black man in the White House? I knew these Ku Klux Krackpots were a bunch of idiots but this logic of theirs is as backwards as a baseball cap being worn by The Missing Link while he does the Moonwalk.

  112. Mike Danfield said,

    on June 30th, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    There are African Americans,
    > Mexican Americans,
    > Asian Americans,
    > Arab Americans,
    > Native Americans, etc.
    > ….And then there are just -
    >
    > Americans.
    >
    > Some pass me on the street
    > and sneer in my direction.
    > They Call me ‘White boy,’
    > ‘Cracker,’ ‘Honkey,’
    > ‘Whitey,’ ‘Caveman,’
    > ….And that’s OK.
    >
    > You say that whites commit a lot
    > of violence against you,
    > so why are the ghettos the most
    > dangerous places to live?
    >
    >
    > They have the United Negro College Fund.
    > They have Hispanic History Month.
    > They have Martin Luther King Day.
    > They h ave Asian History Month.
    > They have Black History Month.
    > They have Cesar Chavez Day.
    > They have Ma’uled Al-Nabi.
    > They have Yom Hashoah.
    > They have Kawanza.
    > They have the NAACP.
    > And BET.
    >
    > If we had WET
    > (White Entertainment Television)
    > ….We’d be racists.
    >
    > If we had a White Pride Day
    > ….You would call us racists.
    >
    > If we had the White History Month
    > ….We’d be racist.
    >
    > If we had any organization for only whites to ‘advance’ OUR lives,
    > ….We’d
    > be racists.
    >
    > We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce,
    > a Black Chamber of Commerce,
    > and then we just have the plain
    > Chamber of Commerce.
    > Wonder who pays for that?
    >
    > If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships
    > ….You
    > know we’d be racists.
    >
    > There are over 60 openly-proclaimed
    > Black-only Colleges in the US ,
    > yet if there were ‘White-only Colleges’
    > ….THAT would be a racist college.
    >
    > In the Million-Man March,
    > you believed that you were
    > marching for your race and rights.
    > If we marched for our race and rights,
    > ….You would call us racists.
    >
    > You are proud to be black,
    > brown, yellow and red,
    > and you’re not afraid to announce it.
    > But when we announce our white pride
    > ….You call us racists.
    >
    > You rob us,
    > carjack us,
    > and shoot at us.
    > But, when a white police officer
    > shoots a black gang member
    > or beats up a black drug-dealer
    > who is running from the LAW and
    > posing a threat to ALL of society
    > ….You call him a racist.
    >
    > I am proud.
    > ….But, you call me a racist.
    >
    > Why is it that only whites
    > can be racists?

  113. jake said,

    on July 1st, 2008 at 2:34 am

    the black people in the usa are racist as hell they are more than 12% between them and the mex i hardly see white any more they get all the good gov job if black are so good why do they always try to get a white women they say cops pick turn on the tv see who robs and kill

  114. BLAQUE said,

    on July 1st, 2008 at 2:40 am

    AND TO YOU MIKE DONT TRY AND TURN THINGS AROUND…THERE IS NO WET AS YOU SAY BECAUSE WHITES ARE TO BUSY HATING OTHER RACES..TAKE

  115. Eddogg said,

    on July 1st, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    Quote from Crazy..

    Crazy said,

    on June 24th, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    This is crazy. People are crazy. There is no country on earth that is made up completely of one race, yet alone the white race.

    Have you been to China? Korea? Nigeria?
    All those countries are made up of one race each.

  116. Prozium said,

    on July 1st, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    Gunsligner,

    It makes sense for White Nationalists to support Obama’s campaign as opposed to John McCain’s. They are competiting mianly with mainstream conservatives for influence in the broader white community.

  117. The Gunslinger said,

    on July 1st, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    And yet racist white people have spent years trying to keep the black man down. Keeping him from owning guns, voting and having good jobs and now that they want one in the White House. And you say it makes sense? Your logic is flawed young sea otter. I will crush your head like a clam on my tummy!

  118. jake said,

    on July 2nd, 2008 at 3:01 am

    the gov give the black all the good gov jobs and if the jobs want to work mex the job need pay there health care not the tax payers the mex do not pay tax they will have 5 to 10 kids i no two the gov give them $1000 food stamp and health care the man make $150000 year pay no tax the food stamp say where your man the wife say no live in usa

  119. mary beaulieu said,

    on July 2nd, 2008 at 9:14 am

    What is wrong with all these white power/nationalists?
    First of all, most of there letters are barely literate. I would suggest that instead of prowling the streets for their next victim, they go to school and learn how to read and write.
    Next, they should open up their hearts and minds, as REAL Christians do, and accept that all of us, every living creature, were created by GOD.
    Thirdly, maybe if the took a break from all their hatred and jealousy, move to a city that is rich in culture, they would see that they got it all WRONG in the first place.
    Grow up for the Lords sake!
    What are you gonna do if when you die and meet your maker, He’s a Black Man or a Mexican.

    I’d love to see that!

  120. Prozium said,

    on July 2nd, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    I wouldn’t describe American cities as being rich in culture. Rich in consumerism, yes.

  121. Ben Ysrael said,

    on July 2nd, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    Shalom! Well, this empire was built on immoral principles under the guise of “religious freedom (Christianity)”. This country will be judged for all of the atrocities dealt worldwide, many times over. USA has SO MANY ENEMIES in the world. The USA has had a method of making their allies their enemies. Sad, right?! Check this out. This empire is falling! The US Gov’t officials are upset with this fact. So, they have gone on a rampage calling all sorts of people “terrorists”. Terrorists like Jefferson Davis, Richard Nixon, J. Edgar Hoover, Robert E. Lee have been a part of many covert operations locally and internationally. The law of relativity affects many generations. Now, the “reward” is being provided by the children of these corrupt politicians. This is why many suburban/urban Euro-gentile children have gone insane (killing classmates/teachers, bombing buildings, ingesting harmful chemicals for a cheap thrill, hacking computers)! The real war is between good and evil, righteous and unrighteous. Truthfully, the so-called Jews that has inhabitated Ysrael are not the chosen ones. This is why Ysrael is in all sort of trouble and become a cohort to the US. The misplaced Israelites/Jews are in the US and need to return home.

    Yes, white rule was a part of manifest destiny for the Jews/israelites! The holocaust was one event against the European “Jews”. Please check the history and know that the European colonial powers implemented concentration camps in southern Africa (mid to late 19th century) and China. It is not a solo or unique concept taking place in the early 20th century. Lastly, the fruit of the so-called Jewish tree has been bearing rotten and corrupt fruit. Who owns the media and run Hollywood? I rest my case.

    Shalom Shalom

  122. Ben Ysrael said,

    on July 2nd, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    To Mike Danfield,

    The reason there is BET and other agencies/organizations that specify a particular heritage is because of the inequality set by the Europeans in America. All of the groups do not necessarily want a separate broadcasting station/program. ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX do not properly represent the diverse demographic of the US population. It is very simple to recognize and assess. Take care.

  123. Jonathan said,

    on July 4th, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    The view that an Obama victory could be beneficial to the “white supremacist movement” is not as unusual as one would be tempted to think: I recall that Karl Marx - correct me if I’m misremembering - felt that labor unions were an impediment to overthrowing the capitalist systems. If the workers were content with conditions, they would be unlikely to rebel.

  124. Jonathan said,

    on July 4th, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    This is just too funny (note the use of the word “there”):

    “mary beaulieu said,
    on July 2nd, 2008 at 9:14 am

    What is wrong with all these white power/nationalists?
    First of all, most of there letters are barely literate.”

  125. Ron Doggett said,

    on July 6th, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    The comment on Obama that you credited me with I never made, please check your sources.

  126. fatkidonabench said,

    on July 6th, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    i would rather die then see another dem or rep in the oval vote with a 1/132 of your brain and vote against the ruling class, or just raise min wage to 100k a yr. so i can be a cashier at Mcd’s and still pay my bills

  127. Gramma said,

    on July 7th, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    You quit with the ageist remarks please. There are plenty of Boomers, male and female, who support Obama, of all races, creeds and lifestyles. I voted for him in the primary, I will vote for him in the general, and if I didn’t have the Klan in my backyard I would be shouting from the rooftops.

  128. SA Mann said,

    on July 7th, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    Since Ron Doggett didn’t say what your article attributed to him, the question that I have for SPLC is how much other stuff do you get wrong?

  129. JMSIMBA said,

    on July 10th, 2008 at 5:37 am

    Thanks,please listen to this:If the USA are or think to be the best,model and teacher of all Modern,s DEMOCRATIC,S values over the world, then its rirght and Natural that the election of a first African-American Mr.Obama,couldn,t become a issue of Panic, racial troubles.Let the Americans,sawn once again to all the World that they are the best in true and general Democracy, if possible.

  130. amg said,

    on July 10th, 2008 at 7:22 am

    I pray for the healing of the world. I pray for the healing of minds and nations. Peace be unto us all.

  131. David said,

    on July 11th, 2008 at 5:39 am

    I don’t think that it is ever “the time” to elect a black person as President. I think that the deciding factor should be the policies of the person running for President, not the color of his or her skin. I am a white Republican from Arizona and I am taking my decision very seriously. I know that my state leans heavily toward Republican Presidential nominees and having a “home team” will probably make this bias even stronger. I don’t care though. I have not decided which candidate I will support in November. But I can only vote with the one voice that the constitution has allowed me. I can’t change the fact that my vote will possibly be drowned out by the electoral system of Presidential politics. But we cannot give up our vote just because we aren’t sure if it will “count.” The fact is, I am not going to base my decision on race. I believe that both candidates deserve consideration. Blacks have been just as much a part of the history of this country as whites have. No, they weren’t the founding fathers of this country - they weren’t given the chance. But they are woven into the tapestry of the history of the United States of America as much as whites are (but without nearly as much dignity.) If I believe that Barack Obama can lead this country into a positive direction, then I will vote for him. If I believe that John Mccain can do better, then I will vote for him. As far as the idea that black people are as racist as white people, I have a few comments. This country was founded by white people. Black people were brought here as slaves. A lot of things have changed to better the lives of black people thanks to the efforts of people such as Rosa Parks and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. But until the white people of this country can admit that horrendous things were done, and are still being done to black people in this country, I cannot blame black people in this country for being angry. The words of the late Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. are thrown around a lot but the meaning has still not been realized. This is supposed to be “One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.” I am still waiting for that to truly happen.

  132. Jonathan said,

    on July 11th, 2008 at 8:42 am

    “But until the white people of this country can admit that horrendous things were done…”
    Admitted by who? Whites like Polish immigrants and their descendants? What is supposed to be done? Should a giant , nation-wide, Catholic-like “confession” be held?

    “… and are still being done to black people in this country,”
    Being done to them by whom? Themselves?

    “… I cannot blame black people in this country for being angry.”
    It’s not totally unexpected if they keep hearing the message that the lack of equality of outcome is due to “institutional racism”, etc. and Polish immigrants oppressing them.

  133. Robert said,

    on July 12th, 2008 at 3:57 am

    Jonathan, it is fellow Caucasians like you who give me hope. We “white” males are still the power structure, and it is right and good that we be involved in the orderly process of handing the reins of power to one who by the color of his skin represents those who have given so much to build this nation-their blood and bones are in the mortar which binds this country.
    As far as black people and racism, I have been taught that we all have prejudices, but that the difference between prejudice and racism is the power to enforce your prejudices. People of color still do not in most instances have that power, so I believe that while it is possible for people of color to be prejudiced ( and given the treatment they have been given, who can blame them?) I believe it is impossible for most people of color to be racist.
    Prejudice without power = prejudice
    Prejudice + power to enforce = racism
    I believe the best thing you and I and other like minded “white” people can do is to work on breaking the chains and freeing our own people from the centuries long lies of white supremacy. Race is simply a social construct used to confer power on those who “look like us” and deny it to those who do not. This rotten old system is decaying and falling apart all around us, it is a GOOD thing and I believe that God, or the gods and goddesses or whatever the hell made us and continues to allow the flourishing of this garden cheers each time another “white” person sees a person of color as their equal and fellow “child of God” or the Universe or whatever terminology you are comfortable with. I believe, Jonathan you might enjoy Googling “Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack” for some real meaty stuff to gnaw on in relation to our white privilege.
    May you fare well in the world and be bold in speaking your truth. Accepted or no- you ARE doing the right thing.


  134. on July 12th, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    Time to heal the nation! Impossible to do with one man?The gift of life was offered to us by our maker for a short time. What we choose to do with it make up our destiny.Obama found his calling in the political arena just any other politician.

    One american to another, please wake up. Once you leave this planet your spirit lives on, where it will end up I don’t know. Is Obama a man of principle and purpose, is he on a mission from a higher soure? I don’t kown. One american to another, we owe it to ourselves to improve our lives with each passing day.

    Wether this man is black,white muslim,christian we owe ourselves the opprotunity of change,
    We as americans are stuck in a never ending zone of the the same tipe of Govermental sytem. Is he the right man for the JOB? I don’t know and you don’t know either. America is in trouble and we can’t aford to keep watching this country spiring down into hell.

    As for the hate mongers and the white supremacist, I Ieave very little room for commet, Although I must say this, Obama was right when he said that you cling to your guns and religion because you are uneducated and you know nothing else.

  135. Grafted Devil said,

    on July 13th, 2008 at 8:46 am

    Heres the problem, people……..

    blacks want obama in because hes black……
    Whites want him in to ’show’ to the others that theyre ‘one of the good guys’…..theyre not the evil racist that society has learned to hate…..that theyve pushed away from the ‘racism’ stem and they want these people to like them…..

    the problem lies AFTER he makes it in……

    there will be no more elections, people……mark my word….the election process in America will be no more….

    for some reason you people here think that blacks play by the same rules as us….

    they never have….and never will……

    we include them in our social activities…they exclude us…..
    we use ‘law’ to govern a country…they use force….
    we attempt to ‘talk’ a woman out of her panties…….they just hold them down and take it….

    I cannot believe that here in America, we are about to hand-over what we have built as a White ‘people’….to a race that was a former slave race in this country….(and still are in affffffffrica…..so it shows just WHO are the haters of the earth)…..

    and believe me, people…its being ‘handed’……because these people cant take a damned thing…unless theyre ALLOWED..

    I cannot believe just how stupid White people have gotten over the last 50 years….just plain dumb to the fact……

    ONLY WHITES would be so ignorant as to elect the ones that hate you solely because youre White……

    When obama get in (and he will)…….you will see things on the street that your obama-bott never thought would happen…..you will run for your life, to save it……because alot of n-words are going to be coming for your blood…….all because youre White……

    you White people that vote for this n-word……you will get everything you deserve….I wish nothing but earthly torment for you……I hope they take you White women….hold you down…..and make you endure your stupid decision…….

    youd be surprised what people will do…..IF they think they can get away with it…..

    you self loathing Whites can laugh all you want….but the day is ALMOST here……where blacks will attempt to rise…..only to be cut down…..and put BACK on the plantations………..

    their fault……

    and thats sad……but this time…….no captivity…only eradication………..but we’ll eradicate the black mindset as well…….

    say all you want…..but believe me, you WILL be cut short of your last sentence…..

    Its a good thing that we have true Americans left that will fight for their family, their values, their heritage and beliefs…..true White Brethren that will Stand and Rise Together…..become One, like we always have in the past…..

    and bring this country back to American values…..

  136. Grafted Devil said,

    on July 13th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    this is refering to what Robert said in the post above mine………about the knapsack or whatever……..

    This is at the bottom of the page…….”"”Peggy McIntosh is associate director of the Wellesley Collage Center for Research on Women. This essay is excerpted from Working Paper 189. “White Privilege and Male Privilege: A Personal Account of Coming To See Correspondences through Work in Women’s Studies” (1988), by Peggy McIntosh; available for $4.00 from the Wellesley College Center for Research on Women, Wellesley MA 02181 The working paper contains a longer list of privileges.”"”

    She sounds more like a spoiled rotten, jealous and envious, scorned lady……

    thats HER perspective and opinion on a certain subject….

    believe me, man……theres many White women that would differ with her ‘analogy’ of her world around her……..

  137. Jonathan said,

    on July 14th, 2008 at 9:32 am

    All the best places to live in the world are in predominately White countries. Coincidence?

    http://finance.yahoo.com/real-...../The-World’s-Best-Places-to-Live-2008

  138. Jonathan said,

    on July 14th, 2008 at 9:40 am

    All the best places to live in the world are in predominantly White countries and half of them German-speaking:

    The World’s Best Places to Live 2008
    by Carl Winfield
    Thursday, June 12, 2008

    No. 1: Zurich, Switzerland
    No. 2 (tie): Vienna, Austria
    No. 2 (tie): Geneva, Switzerland
    No. 4: Vancouver, Canada
    No. 5: Auckland, New Zealand
    No. 6: Dusseldorf, Germany
    No. 7 (tie): Munich, Germany
    No. 7 (tie): Frankfurt, Germany
    No. 9: Bern, Switzerland
    No. 10: Sydney, Australia

  139. Jumaane said,

    on July 14th, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    Greetings all,

    I would like to respond to Jonathan’s comment. There are several reasons it has been statistically noted as the ‘Best Places to Live’.

    1. Most European countries in the past 600 years or so have bombarded and stripped resource-rich countries in the world with devious, psychological, and barbaric methods.

    2. The statisticians and “facts” that are generated by these surveys are generally biased. There is/are alwasys subliminal messages and agendas.

    For surveys like this, one must consider the gauge and factoring involved. There is more to life than riches and finances. Most Eastern nations have rich heritage and culture. Frankly, European culture is very weak, inhumane, and recessive. Europeans have always looked to other nations for life/soul. If you want a list of examples, please provide your email or I can provide mine. Thanks!

  140. Ben Ysrael said,

    on July 14th, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    American values…interesting! The American values are temporal, schizophrenic, totalitarian, covert, too flexible, insincere, biased, destructive, enslaving, money-hungry, greedy, lascivious. Then, the “American values” forces you to worship two false gods in particular………green money and white Jesus!

  141. en said,

    on July 14th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    Well is he white or black. He keeps saying how proud he is to be raised by his mother and grandparents which are all white. How can he be black. I feel he is just using he other half to get what he wants. Sounds like he is crying equal rights for himself.

  142. Jonathan said,

    on July 15th, 2008 at 12:12 am

    Responding to Jumaane,

    <<>>
    Really!? Switzerland has pillaged the 3rd world, which you imply? Or Austria? Germany’s was minimal. We are no longer in the feudal time; wealth is *more* dependent on the talents of the population that stripping “resource-rich countries”.

    <<>>
    So White Supremacists are behind these surveys?

    <<>>
    You clearly have a hostility - may I even say “hate”? - towards things European. Yes, I’d be interested in your sources. You pretend to be blind to the achievements of Europe (e.g., Renaissance). Read the “Intellectual History of the 20th Century” or “Human Accomplishment: The Pursuit of Excellence in the Arts and Sciences, 800 B.C. to 1950″.

  143. Jonathan said,

    on July 15th, 2008 at 12:52 am

    Dear Ben Ysrael,

    Would you agree with the following? :

    Israeli values…interesting! The Israeli values are temporal, schizophrenic, totalitarian, covert, too flexible, insincere, biased, destructive, enslaving, money-hungry, greedy, lascivious. Then, the “Israeli values” forces you to worship two false gods in particular………green money and semitic Moses!

  144. Turning Point said,

    on July 15th, 2008 at 8:13 am

    I fear for the USA its people and the world. Obama as President Is a revolution and a turning point for the world for the beter. My fear though comes from history, when Martin Luther King Was murdered, the USA cities began to burn. I am afraid that this dream too will be stopped in a violent way and that this time the fires that will rage in American cities will never be put out. Be vigilant President Obama the evil of prejudice and ignorance as history has taught us breeds evil in people who will committ criminal acts. Good Luck and God bless

  145. Jonathan said,

    on July 15th, 2008 at 9:11 am

    In my opinion it’s rather naive to think that Obama is a new messiah leading a revolution for change: he’s groveled before AIPAC; his largest contributer is Goldman-Sachs; shown himself to be flexible in his positions, etc. I predict he’ll more or less go with the flow and become a creature of the system. Even if he wanted great change - which would be a threat to many, who are part of the system - he’d be limited by what he could actually do. All in my humble opinion.

  146. Hernandez, proud US said,

    on July 15th, 2008 at 9:56 am

    Wow, what a person to Elect! = )

    He is being pushed by RACIST’s group on both sides.

    The KKK and other white supremacy groups, plus groups like MECHA, LA RAZA and other Latino Only Groups.

    What worthless President he’ll be…….a legacy of Racism including the wan be President and his Wife.

  147. Siggy said,

    on July 15th, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    Never heard so much blather in my life. Can’t you people learn to spell? Does it bother you so much that Obama is a well-educated bi-racial person. One question: If he were running for president of an African country, would be be the “white” candidate?

  148. AntiAryan said,

    on July 15th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    GOD BLESS BARACK OBAMA!!!!!

  149. patty said,

    on July 16th, 2008 at 8:37 am

    You are uneducated, and a total imbecile! This moron isnt qualified to be a boy scout leader! another failed product of affrimative action… Looks take a real good look at the countries and cities in the united states run by blacks. all destroyed, all poverty.. figure it out people! Perhaps its the criminals he runs with william ayers, rezko.. thank God there isnt enough white trash to get this imbecile elected!
    You gotta laugh , 12% of the population, half in prisons, and 45% on welfare, think they actually matter..

  150. Mark Lungo said,

    on July 17th, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    If Obama turns out to be a good president (which I both hope and anticipate), then this ridiculous “plan” will backfire spectacularly.

  151. Melinda said,

    on July 21st, 2008 at 10:23 am

    This is in regards to Mark Potok’s post above. He wrote, “Even David Duke (right), the neo-Nazi and former Klan boss who is the closest thing the movement has to a real intellectual these days, sees clear advantages in an Obama victory in the fall.”

    I found calling David Duke a “real intellectual” disturbing. Note the misuse of the word “let’s” in David Duke’s nonsensical write up “Obama is the pain that let’s [sic] your body know that something is dreadfully wrong.” If the man can’t figure out “let’s” from “lets” than what kind of intellectual does that make him….

  152. james said,

    on July 21st, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    You know its really diss heartning to see this I Really like Obama, but I’m really not so sure America is ready for a black president, there is all this propaganda saying Obama is a secret muslim, and I think there is good chance he will wind up getting killed there is still all this racial resentment in this country with blacks and white’s. you know its really depressing I just don’t get it what’s these fucking people’s problem, it makes me so angry to see all these people hating each other is it really so hard just to judge people by there character/ there actions.
    I find the whole thing to be really depressing.

  153. None of your business said,

    on July 22nd, 2008 at 10:37 am

    Hate has nothing to do with anything excpet double speak.
    Control the money control the people. Look up the history of the Neocons and the creators of the Federal Reserve.

  154. paul said,

    on July 22nd, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    What is not to hate ? Hate being very strong language, how can anyone even the smallest achiever stand by and see laws preventing a mass of Illegal Immigrant over run your land in a manor of waging war upon a country, by means of ILLEGAL ENTRY. Not to mention a plot set to go along with it all making it unlawful to ask for identification as are you American or do you have documents to work in America, what is so hard to understand about that ?
    The Law is the law, Illegal is illegal, it is illegal to take someone’s belongings no matter how minuscule, you will go to jail for doing so ! If I enter your home or property without your permission that is illegal entry, I will be incardinated, so what is it that your left wing way of thinking does not allow you to see how someone could not hate anyone that takes full advantage of such laws and is protected by the very law that dictates illegal is illegal !
    You might want to get a copy of LySander Spooner’s writing’s (book) from the 1850 (No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority (1870))

  155. jade said,

    on July 23rd, 2008 at 11:44 pm

    I have to say, I’ve read these same discussions over and over and again, on many different websites, but they all seem to be by the same people, in various forms and levels. I like that no one is afraid to make their voice heard, but I still wonder how many people who would stand up in real life and make their identity known. Unfortunately, this can’t be done on the internet and I can’t speak to each one of you, get to know your history and why you’ve made your choices, though some of you have said so in your comments.

    In response to the article, I agree with many of you that it will backfire… IF Obama can be the President we supporters hope he can be, and we are putting a lot of pressure on him to perform, some of it slightly unreasonable. If he can’t, I doubt it will come to a race war, but there will be consequences, such as an increase in hate group members and more pressure on minorities. He has a great deal of problems to fix, he is inexperienced, and as evidenced by some of you commenters, he has not totally earned everyone’s trust. Whether the distrust is based on actual facts and concerns (international policy, changes in his positions), or meaningless drivel spewed by the media to get viewers and cause unrest (Muslim allegations, twisted words and facts), the fact remains that is there and people will believe what they want to believe. If they believe (or perhaps only hope) that he will fail, I cannot detract that because nothing has happened yet. I only hope he won’t, because I would rather see prosperity for my country than more violence.

    As for white supremacy, I am sickened by ANY group of people who believe they are entitled to rule over another based on flimsy ideas of biological/intellectual superiority. It’s hurtful and just not true. However, I am not against pride in one’s heritage. I have Irish friends who love that they’re Irish, English friends who love that they’re English, Jewish friends, Muslim friends, the list goes on. I’m African-American, but I will never be against anyone being proud of their ethnicity… as long as it’s not at the expense of safety and security of another. Now, I cannot speak as to the histories of people who support the Klan, Stormfront, or any other hate group. I don’t know what made them join, if it was a personal incident in their past or just the way they were raised. I’ve read why they believe what they believe, but I still don’t understand it because everyone’s experience is different. And obviously I can’t ask, because I will only get a hateful response from someone who believes I’m too intellectually inferior or too prejudiced against white people to care and carry on a reasonable discussion. But I’m not. I know it’s pointless to say and even more pointless to try and convince, but I care when people are hurt. I care when they don’t feel safe. I myself don’t feel safe in many places where there is a high level of gang violence because being black doesn’t make me any safer there.

    To say black people are killing, raping, robbing, hijacking, that’s a blanket statement. There are some black people who do those things, and I do not absolve those who do. But the media twists and exaggerates, people believe what they see on the news or on COPS. But if you want to really see for yourself, really prove that its true, walk through a certain black neighborhood you’re afraid to go to, take a friend, and see how many times you get shot at. Chances are you won’t. But if you are a black person certain white neighborhoods, you better be dressed the part or the next cop you see will stop you. I’ve had it happen on numerous occasions, in addition to blank stares, whispers, employees following me through stores where there are tons of people, but I’m the only black person.

    I don’t condone the violence. It disgusts me. But every race is guilty of it, not just black people. MS-13, a Latino gang, is known as the most violent gang in America, but I hear no accusations against the Latino minority, which has SURPASSED the black community in population. Which leads me to believe that there is more at work than simply worrying about numbers and keeping whites in the majority. Latinos are the biggest “threat,” in that sense. So why is the intense hatred directed at blacks? The history.

    Black people in this country have been mistreated FOR CENTURIES. Whereas slavery and imperialism have bolstered those of European descent into positions of power. This has resulted in much psychological distress for us as a people, having to work twice as hard to have our merits recognized, not being able to respond to hate as a normal human being would (with anger), but being called upon to show almost superhuman restraint in order protect ourselves from further attack. We have to work harder to be educated, we have to work harder to be seen. BET wouldn’t exist (and that would be great, I personally ABSOLUTELY LOATHE IT), if more black people were put on more mainstream channels, black-only schools (which aren’t real, I know plenty of white people attending HBC’s. If you know of a school that is refusing all non-black students, contact the authorities, because that is illegal) wouldn’t exist, if more black students were allowed into predominately white schools. All black organizations were created because the white majority wasn’t properly representing them and their needs in already-established organizations. As for the need for a white history month, ALL HISTORY IS WHITE HISTORY. White people are celebrated every time history is taught. If you don’t want black/women’s/native american history month, TEACH IT CORRECTLY along with the rest of history in the schools and I guarantee it will be gone. The same goes for any of it. Minorities didn’t WANT these things to be separate, they were made because WE HAD NO CHOICE.

    I am against affirmative action, but I still recognize a need for it. It’s an imperfect system and I believe it should be modified, but until then, it’s the best we’ve got. When a minority applies for a job or to a university, they worked INCREDIBLY hard to get there, they face an uphill battle against what is often the spirit-breaking discrimination. And then, if they are selected, they face even more of it. Say what you will, that is a lot for any human being to take, it’s no wonder so many give up on their education. If you are a non-minority (”racial” or economical, because class is an issue as well, no matter what your skin color is), you don’t know what its like and never will. You work hard to get where you are, but in a different way. As a minority, you sense that many people want you to fail, you are given poorer resources, made to feel you’ll never be good enough and only if you are lucky will you someone helping and encouraging you to succeed. Affirmative action is supposed to level the playing field and help properly represent the population so that every person is given an equal chance. If you think it’s not needed, ask yourself who you would choose if you were in that position. And don’t lie. You would choose your own “race” and social standing, even if the minority was more qualified, and if you wouldn’t, then God bless you, because you are way ahead of the curve. Many of these institutions are run by older, white, heterosexual males, who have been raised with the values of a generation that didn’t believe blacks, latinos, asians, working-class or anyone but higher-class white males were suited for running things. And unfortunately, some of them actually still believe it. When this is no longer true, I will be happy to see Affirmative Action thrown out the window and into the dustbin, because it will mean a new chapter for America.

    But I am trying not to put all my faith in Obama to make that happen. He can lead us, perhaps, but (if I may be candid for a moment) he can by no means pull miracles out of his *ss. Everyone has to work for a better future together. It sounds like an after-school special sentiment, but sadly, its true. In order to do what’s best for humanity, we must allow every human being a chance to fully realize their potential. And even more sadly, that’s still an uphill battle for many minorities today. To work your way up from the slums and ghettos isn’t easy, which is why I think many younger people are choosing the easy way of guns and drugs, unknowingly making life more difficult for those of us who are not ready to give up the fight.

    Not everyone cares, though. And while I find it disheartening, I know people can’t be forced to be selfless, to care about the planet and its people. Some people are only looking out for themselves and their own and believe that the best way, the only way, and why should it be otherwise? There are many reasons to give, but they wouldn’t listen and those who don’t believe in that ideology, I don’t need to convince them.

    I am black, I am unashamed of it, and so I will face fear and prejudice everywhere I go. NO country is without some group that believes people of my ethnic background are less than they are. But no country is without people who think they are wrong, and that is why I persevere.

  156. mary said,

    on July 24th, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    in response to author “jade”, her letter was excellent!
    Well Done, Jade!
    I am a new england transplant of sicilian heritage. one you woud call a dark skinned white. Funny. My mother begged me not to move to the south because of all the prejudge. Well, it turns out she was right. We Sicilians are treated badly as well. If you have dark skin, a name thats not waspy, or you don’t have that twang, you will never belong. It is a sad state of our nation when you are judged on your looks or name and not your intellect. How things never change! they just rear their ugly heads in different, more subtle ways.
    OBAMA 08!

  157. Judah Ben Hur said,

    on July 24th, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    Barack Obama as next President of The United States of America

    The die is cast and for reasons that only a privileged few know, you Sir, will be the next President of the United States of America. Your next 4 years will be a turning point in US history and planet earth. CHANGE, your advisors and high stake investors offer the nation will undoubtedly be the same rhetoric and empty promises that make up a political campaign, that campaigns for appointment for any public office in America.

    The White House will be the Black House to some, the Aryan Brothers of America will not be so happy, but yet will blame you and your staff if you fail, which will reinforce their belief that the Aryan Nation is the true leader for America. The religious zealots will be busy bees making nests to survive the onslaught of lies, corruption and deceit. Business enterprises and other competing nations will capitalize off of your inexperience in the art of corruption and murder. The organized crime organizations from different nations including our own will benefit from the lack of control over national crime.

    Military governments including our own will test your tolerance to pain and deception and trick you into needless and profitable domestic and international conflict. You will no doubt attempt to colorize your staff to soften the race conflict once in office.

    As President you will be President. Nations will respect you only for your title of office. Americans will soon see after your appointment as President that your intentions were manipulated by those that make the rules. You will fill the spot in history as planned, and nothing more.

    You will never while in office be able to pull the troops from conflict in any land we are engaged in. As a matter of fact we as a nation will be engaged in a new conflict of war, which will galvanize Americans to seek a different form of government and a different and honest Congress.

    You will attempt to shore up Americas problems with false promise and lies, because you cannot directly affect the CHANGE you promised.

    Your frustration will be your downfall while in office, and your co-dependence on those that you trust will also add to your demise.

    Our Armed Forces in rank will respect you as good soldiers they are, but those under them will not, and for good reasons, that only a good soldier knows.

    America will not be America until its government respects the People, and tells the truth. America is a Republic, not a Democracy or Fascist Government or is it?

    Until you can walk thru the streets and neighborhoods of America unaided by Secret Service or any other law enforcement agency you will not be respected by the many, only by the fearful and selfish few. Americans can protect their leaders if they are honest and respectful of the people they were elected to serve. Our Government has forsaken us for many hundreds of years, and now we will wait until your 4 years are finished for us to come to fruition.

    CHANGE FOR AMERICA FOR AMERICANS!
    The American Republic
    A Sovereign Republic

  158. Henry said,

    on July 25th, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    So, because I am white, from the South, I am a Repubican and am Conservative, I am a racist? You people scare me! If Obama was white, I wouldn’t vote for him! He pure and simply is a Marxist, is a cardboard cut out, and is fed exactly what to say and when. The fact that the new Democrat Party along with every radical Left-wing loony wants America to become a true Socialist country, convert to a Communist type of society, and America’s Middle Class will be duped into voting this radical Marxist into the Presidency, so as to PUNISH whites for their vast hatreds, is beyond my comprehension. I guess, when the Democrat Party does away with our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, and starts shooting Conservatives and Republicans at high noon in Town squares, maybe then, the Middle Class will wake up and say how could this have happened! History usually repeats itself. Just like Castro did to Cuba, and Chavez did to Venezuala, Obama and the Democrat Party wants deserperately to do to America. Good bye U.S.A. hello U.S.S.A (United Socialist States of America). Count me out of this crap!

  159. hypocracyinourdemocracy said,

    on July 26th, 2008 at 8:06 pm

    I think Jade has described our society really well. For people who have made comments about minorities in our society who rape women,kill,etc., they should also recognize the past and current transgressions or sins from their own race which include but are not limited to the following:

    1. The Holocaust
    2. Serial Killers are mostly white males(ie. Bundy,Manson Dahmer, Manson,Gacy and more)
    3. The Oklahoma City Bombing
    4. Columbine
    5. The murder of millions of Native Americans
    6. Enron and other thieving companies.
    7. Slavery,abuse and murder of many African Americans to include lynchings,draggings,rape,mental and psychological abuse.
    8. Domestic abuse
    9. Child Abuse
    10. Inbreeding

    These are horrific acts and cannot be ignored. I’m sure God wouldn’t approve and if your god does then he isn’t the just God we know in Christianity.

    Noone knows if Obama would be the right man for the White House for sure but we don’t know that about Mccain either. White supremicists wanting to see Obama in the white house strictly to show others what a failure a black man will be is hilarious, we can easily get that with a white man in the White House; however, there will always be an excuse for the failure of the latter and no excuse allowed for that of the former.

  160. Jonathan said,

    on July 27th, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    hypocracyinourdemocracy,

    I don’t think “White Supremacists” (an anti-White, leftist term) are blind to “sins” of our race. All races are guilty of them. I get impression that many “leftists” think that some of the sins you list are unique to Whites, e.g., “Serial Killers are mostly white males” - Blacks serial kill at a higher rate than Whites.

    Overall, White build far better societies than other races; the best places to live in the world are all consistently in predominantly White countries.

    Would you rather be a Black person living in the USA or a Black person living in Africa?

  161. chevy454 said,

    on July 27th, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    i am a white male,37 and grew up in the south. i have been rasied with the southern mentality. but i also have a working brain.i have worked with blacks that were good honest hard working people and also worked with blacks that were sorry as whale crap.i have no problem working with any man that pulls his share,but i what i have a problem with is all these blacks living on my tax dollars that are as able to work as i am. People are bitching about all the mexicans crossing the border taking our country from us ,well we give it to them.How you ask, in the form of welfare and goverment freebies. why work when the gov. will give you the moon. you can get food stamps ,welfare,medicad, drive caddies with 3000 dollar rims and sell crack all in the same day. when a factory has no workers they dont stay around long then america has nothing to export then here goes the economy. you want to claim blacks are equal to me check your local jail and prison rosters see what the ratio of black to white is being held . i say get off the system, get off the porch and get a job and keep your people out of prison. Yes i have a lot of hate in my heart when i leave for work at 6 in the morning everyday and pass by the projects on my way and see 6 or 8 brothers in the front yard with a brown paper sack full of colt 45, living on a dime that i supply with my tax dollars. its not enough i have to pay 3-4 thousand dollars at tax time because i work. now those 8 brothers who drive caddies and lincolns get 4-5 thousand dollars in the form of earned income credits for the 5 kids he has and dont support. and sell meht or blow to little kids on the street,tak these jobs from the mexicans send there ars back across th rio grand and say dont come back. but we both know that wont work because you have no woork boots or balls to do it.most white people will not stand up together , so imfrade this is yalls problem if you wish to get to a even society then you will prove to me and probly a lot of other haters your worthy of equality, i work 10 hours,you work ten hours,i pay 50 dollars taxes u pay 50 taxes then talk to me……………..

  162. chevy454 said,

    on July 27th, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    o i told you i had a brain ,,africa was at once the richest nation in whe world. then the african people took the gov fom a non african ruller and loo what happened….

  163. chevy454 said,

    on July 27th, 2008 at 9:56 pm

    as people think the civil war was fought over slavery… ome …i hate to dissapoint you. the war started as the fed gov. was trying to regulate what the states could do or could not do. the fed gov was orig. set up to handle foreign affairs so the states one buy one said no and succeded from the union. there were as many black confederate soilders as they were black union soilders. lincoln set slaves free so they could be sent back to africa… so go home and fix your home counrty if you are so great. i saw a post up top somwhere about whites jumping on the indians. if we haven’t taken this land do you think the indians could have defeated hitler with their sticks and strings or napolion on his conquest… we might be speaking german,russian,or even japanese at this point. long story short you want racism gone. you get your people in order and stop living off the sweat from my back. there are truly a few good honest black people inthe world, but the scales are still tipped the wrong way.

  164. chevy454 said,

    on July 27th, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    as for as obama for pres………hmmmmm well no mater the outcome all the pres. are groomed by a higher power to do the job there way. the pres is only a puppet ,front man for a greater being (Bilderbergs) . i dont care who gets the pres i would like to see a honist pres. for once

  165. jade said,

    on July 28th, 2008 at 4:04 am

    I’m sorry. I had to laugh at this. You must forgive me, I’m only human. To quote Henry:

    “I guess, when the Democrat Party does away with our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, and starts shooting Conservatives and Republicans at high noon in Town squares, maybe then, the Middle Class will wake up and say how could this have happened!”

    President Bush has already done away with the Bill of Rights (check the “Patriot” Act, it is definitely an interesting read), he’s hacked off a sizable part of the Constitution (he attempted to absolve himself LEGALLY of being tried for war crimes) and if it helps at all, no Democratic organization that I am aware of is going to start shooting anyone. If you know of one, report it, if you don’t, quit fear-mongering. I find it somewhat tactless that you would make that claim in a thread discussing the White Supremacist hope of inciting a “race war” and they seem absolutely dead serious. I’ve found several hateful comments in this thread directed at people of my race, but I’m not going to cower in fear of every non-black person I see. I do not assume anyone is a racist just by knowing exactly four things about them. For example, a supposed member of Stormfront (it was dubya, I believe, who was against the Affirmative Action policies, as am I) took a very rational stand on the election and another 16-yr-old white male said he didn’t hate people for who they were, he hated them for their actions, and he was proud of who he was. I liked hearing that about them, because it gave me more insight as to what might help mend fences in race relations today. If I’m not going to make assumptions about White Nationalists, I’m certainly not going to make assumptions about you, sir, and despite what you might think, I don’t believe anyone else is either. If you don’t believe me, (and why would you? I’m a total stranger, and I’m aware that its likely you don’t) TALK to a Democrat, look at Obama’s party platform, or if you just love conspiracy theories (who doesn’t?) at least look towards the positive. There are plenty of people who share your fears and will thus prevent them from ever coming to fruition. Ignore the extreme radicals. People who believe in THAT radical of a change are in the (dare I say it?) MINORITY. Whenever I read that someone wants to legalize lynching again, I try to remember that most people (not all, but most) are largely against that. Doesn’t always work, but it calms me down a little. When a Commie (excuse the term, comrades) is actually a nominated Presidential candidate, THEN you can get your passport out and head for the hills. Until then, just relax. The majority of people who really want to see a change in this country do not want it to start with punishment and death. In fact, that is why many of them are vehemently against it, which is why they protest the current government for its policies, such as the mistreatment of Gitmo prisoners.

    If you’re still afraid of Communism (I’m not much of a fan either), and you believe Senator Obama to be a Communist (another claim I think you’d be hard-pressed to substantiate) then don’t vote for Obama. That’s perfectly fine and it stands to reason that you probably have the most to gain by voting for a white Republican conservative (though I have heard talk that McCain is not as conservative as he seems to be, but you’ll have to look at that on your own) and I for one will not believe you to be a racist for doing it. I would have to know a little more about you besides “white,” “Southern,” “Republican,” and “conservative,” before I even came close to making that judgment. If you were being facetious, then I apologize. But you don’t really need to be scared. You’re exactly who the current power structure is catering to, and will probably continue catering to, since I doubt Obama, if elected, would be enough of an idiot to spur civil war in his own country by shooting its citizens… but maybe you know something I don’t?

  166. PC said,

    on July 29th, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    Yesterday i hear something on the news that was just so totally off the wall which was a business owner saying they are hoping for a hurricane as business is too slow. Now i see yet another off the wall thing here by saying it would be a good thing if BO wins to prove how bad things will be. We cannot prevent a natural disaster but we certainly can prevent such a moron from becoming the president. Get on the STOP OBAMA EXPRESS!

  167. raindrops said,

    on July 31st, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    Lets say blacks and whites do wage a racial war . Do you honestly think osama bin laden, the korean dictator kim, and the iranians going to sit back and wait tell we finish.LOL We’d be @ our most vonerable point ever. What do you think our milatary made of . I cannot beleive david duke is that ignorant. He has to know this as long as he’s been in goverment. These racist nees to reevaluate who there following.LOLLOLLOLOL

  168. kan-wil-sal said,

    on August 1st, 2008 at 4:07 am

    I am a Boer from South Africa, This guy is day dreaming white people are not going to do anything they are not going to fight or stand there ground. They are going to eventually do exactly what white people do here. They will occupy small spaces within the country unable politically to keep them racially exclusive and as soon as they number less then 50% of such a space, they are going to emigrate to somewhere ells, until there are no somewhere ells.

  169. U.S Citizen said,

    on August 1st, 2008 at 11:57 am

    My worry is, what if Obama does lose, or something worse!
    WILL MY FAMILY BE SAFE, history has shown us
    what happens.?…..Just ask Rodney King, !

  170. swest said,

    on August 3rd, 2008 at 12:05 am

    It is incredible the amount of lunacy and hatred and violence that can be generated by the FEAR of people who are different. These idiots are terrified- not just of people who are different from themselves- but by every facet of their daily existence. Fear has taken away more of our freedom in the last 5 years, than we have lost in 200 years. They need to find spirituality, gratitude, and appreciation for the diversity of life. All the wisdom of the ages- including the Holy Bible- tells us not to fear, and to love each other. Why is it so hard to embrace when we all know it instinctively? I suspect it is the fearful EGO feeling threatened. White sups. don’t have a single clue about what it means to be a patriot or an American citizen. They are too busy wetting their pants in fear of others.
    Because these BOZOS are scared witless doesn’t mean the rest of us- of any and all races- have to sacrifice our patriotism and rights as Americans.

  171. Jonathan said,

    on August 3rd, 2008 at 11:35 am

    swest,

    Are you fearful of “White Supremacists”?

  172. U.S Citizen said,

    on August 3rd, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    Im sure Reginald Denney is scared of riots!!!,,Watts, South Boston, my point was,(SWEST) a certain folk dont get their way they burn the town down…..but you probably live in the suburbs,like most people who dont live in a major city, your all for diversity, when they come knocking down your door you’ll be crying for help from those “Bozos”

    But then again didnt Jesse Jackson just say something about Obama?

    Wasnt Obama just booed off stage in Fla. by a few african americans!!! Also, didnt the Haitians a while back
    kill all whites and mulattos in their country!!! Being Mulatto
    like Barack must be tough…as far as race wars?
    The Swest latinos have already started that war with the african americans.in L..A. And its shoot on sight!!
    Im curious as to where alot the people that post here live?

  173. PC said,

    on August 3rd, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    Rodney King is a poor example as the public never saw the beginning of the tape…where he could not be brought down..he resisted with everything he had..he was cracked out, big and brutal..he spit, kicked threw punches, till finally they had no choice but to beat him down…he has a huge criminal record…He angered the police…he was a total piece of shit that was a danger to society…and beat on his women…

  174. Anwar said,

    on August 10th, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    After reading the posts it became quite evident to me that the people here are spewing the same unreasonable hatred that they complain the other side does.

    There’s no difference really in either side, the radical left or the radical right. Both are filled with unbridled hatred, and both seem to be the worst each side has to offer.

    If there is a civil war it will be between these two groups, because they’re both rife with out of control hate-mongers.

    The country would be better off without the entire lot of them, so the rest of us could get down to business without being influenced by deranged ideologues.

  175. Kim said,

    on August 12th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    Well said Anwar.

  176. ricky said,

    on August 13th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    I am not a racist but the down fall of this country will be if Obama gets elected President. All you idiots need to see this evil person for who he really is. Have any of you seen the way he mocks God, and the Bible, this man is the closest thing to the Anti-Christ there is out there.

  177. Delma said,

    on August 15th, 2008 at 11:10 am

    The funny thing is Mccain is the one who thinks war is the solution to all our foreign problems, he is already threatening Russia and they are the last country we want to screw with, not unless you want to truly start a nuclear war, and you claim Obama is evil. That’s a joke! If Mccain becomes president you better be prepared to tuck your tail between your legs, put your head between your knees and kiss your ass good-bye. Where else do you think he is going to get all the troops he is going to need to attempt his deeds? Pull them out of his ass, I suppose.

    It is really sad to see just how far the right wing will go! I knew it was just a matter of time before the word “Anti-Christ” came into the picture. Oh yea, you’re right, wanting peace and unity is a sign of the “Anti-Christ”. If that’s the case then I guess JFK, MLK and even Ronald Reagan (among numerous other great leaders) were also the “Anti-Christ” of their time!

  178. PC said,

    on August 15th, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    Delma, it is not McCain who started the war. Unless you fully understand what is going on now, then you will not be able to understand the scope of why we cannot just pull out. BO knows nothing what so ever. McCain does not think war is a solution, it is an end results. Russia needs the US…they are not about to use nukes..they know there would be no winners. McCain has not threatened Russia…It is really sad that you think someone who knows nothing at all can possibly lead this country.

  179. Lee said,

    on August 18th, 2008 at 6:21 am

    Rome destroyed itself from within. Reading the majority of the vitriolic, uncivil posts above, I do believe that this great nation is going to self-destruct. My only hope is that the internet and blogs keep the hatemongers busy and off the streets.
    I weep for humanity. And now I’m off to teach adolescents about caring in a productive and positive way for themselves, for others, for their surroundings, and for the future.

  180. Wayne said,

    on August 18th, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    I am amazed that in the 21st Century in a country that provides freedom and the “American Dream” to everyone that it still supports Hatemongers.

    Maybe, these groups that are hoping for growth because a Black man becomes President - will finally wake up and smell the roses. Could it be conceivable that your groups and so called intellects are ignorant of the fact that the color of skin really doesn’t matter.

    The color of skin, has no bearing at all of the persons abilities or lack of. If color of skin had any bearing on a persons ability and suggested in fact that White’s are the supreme race… White’s would in fact rule all countries, states, cities and that is not the fact.

    I wish for you members of the KKK and White groups - that you be truly enlightened, touched by God in some way if thats what it takes - and be prepared to support your President that could well be a Black man…

  181. PC said,

    on August 18th, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    Wayne, I don’t know where you are living, but it is most def you that needs some enlightening…LOL… I think you have missed quite a bit over a period of 100 yrs. What happens when you give freedom to a caged lion or any wild animal? Will it embrace you and thank you for feeding and caring for it? NO WAY! Take the rose colored glasses off..NOW! Just because you don’t know the truth doesn’t mean others are not allowed to!!!!! Stop saying a black man is running for pres, HALF doesn’t count!!!

  182. Denmason said,

    on August 19th, 2008 at 10:42 am

    Wayne, you need to do some research. It goes far deeper than the color of the skin, it’s goes all the way to the DNA.. Take a good long look at the scene in Africa since apartheid ended. There are many reasons that the black has been used as a slave throughout history and even by it’s own people. It is truly you that needs enlightenment, maybe then you would wake up from the American Dream. You can start by using Google and look up “South Africa after apartheid”. Don’t be surprised at what you read, this is the way the blacks have always been. It’s in the Genes.

  183. Jonathan said,

    on August 20th, 2008 at 11:29 pm

    In spite of everything said above, I recall that David Duke supported the nomination of Clarence Thomas.

  184. Afreeka said,

    on August 21st, 2008 at 11:10 am

    Wow…The Klan is played out! I can’t believe in 2008, there are still people that believe they are superior than others, if you were so superior, then there wouldn’t even be an OBAMA….I am proud of him, not as a black man but as a human being, he is embracing all cultures,religions and differences it takes an evolved mind to do that. Also to be completely correct his mother is just as white as you!
    So you guys can take half the credit for his brilliance!

    As far as the idea that his winning the race will somehow support and unite your cause is truly funny. The fact is Obama is going to win! and he is going to take care of us all, even your mentally and emotionally challenged group. He’s a man of the people, all people and I feel deep down inside you know this and that is why you are secretly supporting his win….You guys will finally get all the government jobs you could ever want……and it will be from a half white/half black man…..so embrace the CHANGE!

    Nothing can probably be more painful and empty than being hateful…so I send you love, like Dr. King says, nothing can cancel out hate but love…..So today…I say, I love you all, my confused white brothers and sisters, you will know justice once you know love….

    With Love Always…your African American Sister Afreeka

  185. Bill spoyer said,

    on August 21st, 2008 at 11:17 am

    I cant believe all the responses on such a wastefull speculation!! Obama hasnt won anything, and he most likely won’t!! His only chance is if Hill becomes his VP candidate. On a side note if Obama does win, Kudos for him for playing the “Race Card” and being Mulatto, not Black !! But Race really does play into much, in my humble opinion i think the U.S.A is heading for War with Russia, if not a Civil War within anyways!! History has shown Democracy burns itself out, starting from the inside out. B’nai bnirth Praise Israel the Chosen People, the true
    Israelites!! hahahahaahahahahhahah! YEAH RIGHT!

  186. Jonathan said,

    on August 23rd, 2008 at 11:51 am

    It’s funny all of you that deride “White Supremacists” (silly term ) for being “racist” and support Obama. Implied is how terrible it is to be pro-White and one must support “diversity”, etc.

    I’m sorry to disappoint you, but Obama is selective in his where he supports “diversity”. He certainly doesn’t support diversity for Israel; he supports Israel as a Jewish state - Israel has a pro-Jewish immigration policy and anti-miscegenation laws. Remember how he groveled before IAPAC a couple of months ago? Obama has selected Joe Biden as his Vice President. Quoting Joe:
    “‘I am a Zionist,’ stated Senator Biden. ‘You don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.’” (http://shalomtv.org/pdfs/ShalomTV_Biden_PR.pdf)

    Could you imagine a politician saying “I am a White Nationalist”?

    Stick all that in your “diversity” pipe and smoke it!

  187. sean said,

    on August 24th, 2008 at 10:26 am

    He’s a bigot she’s a racist,I am 100% European(whats that anyway)?drown in their stew! you all hate eachother and I hope all of you can just take a take walk sometime and wave to your neighbor across the way,Unless the throw rocks ofcourse!

  188. PC said,

    on August 24th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    Hey, look who is on this website…and put in the search, white people, see what blacks really think of whites..LOL
    http://www.blackplanet.com/

  189. PC said,

    on August 24th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    BO wasn’t elected, he was selected..

  190. 14/88 said,

    on August 25th, 2008 at 4:46 am

    Im a skinhead. I have a bachelors in business, but never used it. I started out making better money than 60% of college graduates with my current employer, not to mention my side business. I went to college to educate myself and to better myself. I am pro white, and always will be. A simple walk threw a history book will show you every civilization black hands have ever touched, they have destroyed. Millions of white europeans came here and flourished in a century. So tell me slavery has been over for a 100 years, how long does it take to get your act together. As stated before, we are many and we are proud. Not to mention, many of us are ex military. Funny how many of you still associate us with the old “dumb ass country boy redneck who cant read or write” attitude. You dont here about us because we are well connected. But believe you me, come election time, win or loose, you will hear us.

  191. PC said,

    on August 26th, 2008 at 4:25 am

    Let’s think past our immediate feelings as well as how we fully anticipate that we will ALL feel through the beginning of November. Let’s think about the post-08 chatter. Here are some possibilities:
    (1) Barack Obama lost because the American people felt he didn’t have enough experience;
    (2) Barack Obama lost because he didn’t know enough about national security;
    (3) Barack Obama lost because he didn’t do well in the debates;
    (4) Barack Obama lost because his economic plan lacked specificity and populist appeal;
    (5) Barack Obama lost because the McCain campaign outwitted the Obama campaign;
    (6) Barack Obama lost because the Georgian crisis escalated, and McCain showed his depth of knowledge of the region while Obama floundered; and/or
    (7) Barack Obama lost because Hillary Clinton — always the perfect target — failed to get her supporters in line, and they kept loudly proclaiming that they would vote for John McCain and wouldn’t even consider Obama.
    (An imaginary column in late 2009: “While it is true that Barack Obama still couldn’t have garnered enough electoral votes, had Mrs. Clinton been able to get her supporters to stick with the Democratic party, Mrs. Clinton’s prospects for 2012 would be far brighter. But her political future is forever tainted by her embittered supporters’ noisy exodus to the Republican candidate, without properly vetting him against their own supposed Democratic party principles.”)

  192. PC said,

    on August 26th, 2008 at 4:29 am

    14/88, the reason blacks and some whites still associate white orgs with the old KKK and rednecks is because they can’t think much past slavery…they still think like slaves.

  193. Frank Ramsdell/Georgia said,

    on August 26th, 2008 at 11:39 am

    QUOTYE from 14/88………

    “”"14/88 said,

    on August 25th, 2008 at 4:46 am

    Im a skinhead. I have a bachelors in business, but never used it. I started out making better money than 60% of college graduates with my current employer, not to mention my side business. I went to college to educate myself and to better myself. I am pro white, and always will be. A simple walk threw a history book will show you every civilization black hands have ever touched, they have destroyed. Millions of white europeans came here and flourished in a century. So tell me slavery has been over for a 100 years, how long does it take to get your act together. As stated before, we are many and we are proud. Not to mention, many of us are ex military. Funny how many of you still associate us with the old “dumb ass country boy redneck who cant read or write” attitude. You dont here about us because we are well connected. But believe you me, come election time, win or loose, you will hear us.”"”

    Right on, Brethren!!..Right On…..

    Ive told alot of “Yielding” Whites (thats what I call them…stomach to ground, ass up)….that my voice is not isolated…(Im not a member of any organization..Im just a fed-up, pissed White Brethren)…..

    I was worried about what was happening with-in the past 15 years….such as programs from the government, under clinton, forced integration, housing being developed strictly for the black community, all in the name of ‘fairness’….FAIRNESS of WHAT??…..I was worried about the slobbering and glamorizing of the black roaches within the government school system, the media…and out in society…..

    making and mentally-forming these ‘people’ something theyre not……

    I am not worried, nor concerned about a White man that wants a black woman….or a White woman that wants a black man…..those people are the undesirables of society…..

    If you dont feed the family pet…they usually find ‘food’ elsewhere…(so, I can understand a little)…..

    the problem that arises is that : since most of the blacks hold resentment against White Men of America, since they want to dominate the White Men of America, since they walk around with, not a chip, but a freaking boulder on their shoulders for the White Man, since they personally and politically EXclude the White Man while we try and attempt to INclude them, since they continuosly holler about the White Man being evil and wicked…….

    the White women of these black men have a tendency to be molded through constant badgering of the White men, from black men of America….

    they end up being a yielding White womanWhite man that hates their own people..

    Its not only sad…its pathetic and sickening…..

    BUT..the day will come, and I promise you, that you WILL BE MADE to live in your choice and decision of hoisting them above your own…..

    and NO……you will not like it…..but THAT was your choice……

  194. Mike Rickey said,

    on August 27th, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    I will pray that this character Obamma does not get into the Whitehouse.

  195. kelseyB. said,

    on August 27th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    this article is so ignorant…if you white people dont like african americans why the hell didnt you let them stay in africa? dumb crackers!!! you should have let them stay where they were then you wouldnt have to worry about a positive influential black man taking over the white house. I bet you ignorant crackers didnt think about that.

  196. Brent said,

    on August 27th, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    This reminds me of a few year ago in Minneapolis, MN. There was a KKK rally and about 12 people showed up and felt so dumb they dismantled shortly after it started.

  197. PC said,

    on August 28th, 2008 at 10:39 am

    Brent, and your point is what? There is more then one state.

  198. 14/88 said,

    on August 28th, 2008 at 6:38 pm

    kelseyb this ones for you and yours: Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.? Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation.?White America?needs to be heard from, not just lectured to. This time, the?Silent Majority?needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these: First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships , grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of fre edom and prosperity blacks have ever known.
    Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American. Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ’60s on welfare,?food stamps, rent supplements,?Section 8 housing,?Pell grants,?student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream. Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks — with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas — to advance black applicants over white applicants. Churches, foundations, civic groups, school s and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks. We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude??
    Barack talks about new ‘ladders of opportunity’ for blacks. Let him go to Altoona and Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by?Ivy League?recruiters handing out scholarships for ‘deserving’ white kids.? Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and?incarceration ratesfor African-Americans are seven times those of white America ? Is it really white Amer ica ’s fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black?dropout rate?from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent? Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?
    As f or racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is?Barack Obama?aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time? Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse? We have all heard adnauseam from the Rev. Al about?Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena . And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

    Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.

  199. Yuma said,

    on August 28th, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    As a Yaky native american we ssuport President Obama. we don’t need more white killers to control America.

  200. J D Hone said,

    on August 29th, 2008 at 12:02 am

    This goes out to Frank “pro white” Ramsdell and all who think like him. I would like to comment on your “every civilization black hands have ever touched, they have destroyed. Millions of white europeans came here and flourished in a century”. Have you “walked through a history book” on how the native americans of this country were destroyed by “the flourishing white europeans”? People like you are a disgrace to society. My grandfather was a PROUD shoshoni Indian who was murdered in 1930 by racist pricks not unlike yourself. What do you mean by the statement “many of us are ex military”? Who gives a shit about you or your closeminded backwards ass beliefs. Until every human being on this planet realizes we are all part of one race, THE HUMAN RACE there will be no chance for our survival. You also say “we are many and we are proud” so why don’t you all come out to the Wind River Indian Reservation in Wyoming and we’ll discuss the true meaning of the word PROUD.

  201. J D Hone said,

    on August 29th, 2008 at 1:40 am

    I guess my opinion doesn’t matter to you cowards but my invitation for you haters to visit the res and talk about the true meaning of the word PROUD is still open.

  202. Tony said,

    on August 29th, 2008 at 2:29 am

    Hey Frank Ramsdell stupid skinhead. You spelled ‘through’ wrong. It’s not ‘t h r e w’. You sure you didn’t download and print out that Bachelors degree of yours?

  203. CaliforniaLove said,

    on August 29th, 2008 at 4:50 am

    I hope that Obama becomes president so he can prove supremacist wrong. It would be more likely that there would be a decrease in membership to these degrading groups.

    One day they will relize that all men are created equal and that we are all related. They will relize that there is good in the world and it exists in the hope that Obama gives to the American people. They will relize that hate has never won, and faith in the goodness of man has brought Obama to the place where he is.

    One day.

  204. PC said,

    on August 29th, 2008 at 11:40 am

    Tony, you need to be calling BO a ton of names..direct your anger towards ppl who hate America not love it..BO and MO and the naccp is who you should be calling names..BOs good friend took part in a bombing, not a skin head or any other white org..you need to get your info together and get on the right track.

  205. PC said,

    on August 29th, 2008 at 11:54 am

    JD Hone…I totally agree that the biggest travesty is what happened to the native Americans..at the hands of the white man. I believe it was the worst, over slavery and the holocaust. That said, it doesn’t take away from the fact that blacks have run rampant in a path of revenge and are trying to destroy America. BO is just the worst candidate ever…It is one thing to hate someone simply because of their race, but that is not what has happened…not at all. Why? Because if that were true, there would have been no freedom of the slaves, no civil war and no liberals. BO has no qualifications, no accomplishments, no military knowledge, the worst voting record ever, supports partial birth abortion, is going to tax us up the ass…and with a total disrespect for the flag and America. You and others just do not get the big picture and insist on making this about race…not so. It is just not so..He sat in a hate filled muslim teaching church for 20 yrs and learned how to take revenge on whites, even though he is half white…No way should he be president…NO WAY in hell!

  206. PC said,

    on August 29th, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    14/88…all true…great post. But unfortunately, they don’t get it, they don’t want to get it and will probably never get it..I wish all the bleeding hearts would take a nice walk through a ghetto and see if they are embraced or killed..LOL..There are tons and tons of ghettos to choose from..some even the police won’t venture. These ppl just do not see the real truth and that is why we have been going down hill as a nation..We need McCain.

  207. 88`s Jeno-side said,

    on August 29th, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    Why is Mark Potok allowing the poster “PC” constantly posting on this particular forum? As you can see, nothing she says is a legitimate arguement other than to vilify anyone who supports his majestic highness–Obama(sorry I’m not Black but I am an avid supporter of him regardless of what you think, makes no difference).
    According to the national polls taken recent(I can look this up when I have the time)
    There are far more Democratic and Independent voters than Republican and especially over Neo-Cons.

    Which also means that you PC and folks like you, are indeed a minority. Let me repeat that one more time–YOU ARE A MINORITY!
    And there is a valid reason for that which I can explain in my next post later(like after I get off work)

    But the question remains–why is PC so stuck on posting in this forum is beyond me.

    1.) Is she strangely obessesed with “BO”?
    2.) Does she secretly like the man and she can’t seem to move on?
    3.) Is she jealous of him for some unknown reason?

    Whatever the it is, I couldn’t careless. That’s not important. I just think her mind is so narrowed that even a flea could fall off which also mean Neo-Conservatism. So debating her is quite useless based on my anedoctal obserances of these posts.

    Neo-Con,
    Its not a popular Party but a Party of bigots, racists, and 2-faced xenophobes.
    Even the moderated Republicans view them as far more extreme.

  208. J D Hone said,

    on August 29th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    PC, and now Obama spent 20 years in a hate filled Muslim school? I should have known that Muslims would be mentioned on here. Does a man with a military background make a better president? Why? And you have talked to Obama personally and he has told you of his disrespect for the flag and for this country? Our are you speaking of the bullshit that was stirred because of a stupid flag pin? I DO GET THE BIG PICTURE, The time for hate and hate speech,distrust and fear has long past and its time for the United States to move forward for the GOOD OF ALL HUMAN BEINGS. Forgive and forget the past, it was very hard for me to do so but I have forgiven. Have hope for the future, help those in need “no matter what the color of their skin or which religion they may choose to worship”. Their is good and bad in all races, in all religions, in every country on this planet, how do we face the bad? More war? Or do we put a man in the whitehouse with a new vision, a vision of hope, with new ideas, not only for this country but for every country. A people without hope or vision or the will to believe in something new are not truly alive. We selfish Americans care more about “being taxed out the ass” than the genocide in Africa. We must stand together for what is right and just the future of the human race hangs in the balance.

  209. PC said,

    on August 29th, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    JD, who said anything about a school? LOL..He has shown his disrespect for the flag so many times, where have you bee? You seem to know next to nothing about your candidate. Have you not seen the jet he leases? Please tell me one single accomplishment? Please tell me one single thing he has done to deserve being a president? I do not in any way, shape or form care about africa..and i assure you i am far from being selfish. Charity begins at home. ALWAYS. BO is not and i will continue to try and wake ppl up, BO is not what this country needs. He is a total fake, phoney, poser and has proved it so many times…you are just hearing what you want to hear. He has flip flopped like a rag doll to get the votes. The flag pin, the not wanting a flag behind him, would not put his hand over his heart and say the pledge, took the flag off of his jet, his wife said America is a mean country and whites are oppressors and for the FIRST time in her life she was proud of America..BO said he would stand with muslims..has gotten alot of camp funds from the mid east…he supports partial birth abortion…wants to get rid of minimum sentences…look, obviously you know nothing, just like your choice of pres..LOL

  210. PC said,

    on August 29th, 2008 at 6:16 pm

    JENOSIDE…Your post makes no sense what so ever. I have the same right as you to answer to posts. I am on the STOP OBAMA EXPRESS and will do all it takes to wake ppl up to such a monster that thinks he is apollo jesus moses..The arrogance of this idiot makes me want to throw up. He mentioned McCain 22 times in his speech…but can’t take the heat when he is mentioned. Not one of BOs supporters can name one single thing, not one, why he deserves to be pres..that’s because there isn’t any. I am obsessed with stopping such an ignorant man from becoming the leader of this great country. He cannot and will not change anything for the better. He will bankrupt our country..he will decay it..How dare you say i should not be allowed to post. Are you crazy? Yes, you are supporting a crazy!

  211. Bill spoyer said,

    on August 31st, 2008 at 10:01 am

    PC and 14/88, great posts …Now that McCain has his VP who Walks the Walk not like OB, who just talks and has not done a thing about corrupt Chicago politics, He made a huge mistake in not choosing Hillary, so long to all the OB supporters, Obama and his wife(Biden) are school children compared to McCain and Palin, i keep asking why should Ob be president, and all the responses are”He is a great man” Sorry..Palin is a Fantastic Women, and McCain is a greater Man…..Ms OB, thesis on Black Supremacism, Jeremiah Wright, and OB’s terrorist ideals in college, are more than coincidences, they are convictions of their true beliefs!! And if you cant see that, then you are the racist, because your only voting for OB because he is Black..i mean Mulato(Horse+donkey=Mule)ha,ha ha!

  212. Bill spoyer said,

    on August 31st, 2008 at 10:16 am

    On a side note, their are more Blacks from other countries in America, than those brought over on Jewish slave ships and populated the U.S.A. When Haiti got their independence they killed all whites and mulattos, Africans cant stand African Americans, and african Americans should take pride in their heritage in America, because they could be eating rocks, catching AIDS and Malaria in their home country of Africa.
    P.S.All men are created equal, so lets do away with affirmitive action,!!! Now that would be Change!!!

  213. Bill spoyer said,

    on August 31st, 2008 at 10:25 am

    Jd Hone i feel for you, really..But the Vikings and Spaniards were killing Native Americans before Americans,
    and im pretty sure the natives were all fighting amongst themselves, taking women and boys to be slaves to their tribe. And most died from disease not by the Army who’s job over hundreds of centuries was to conquer and take land…

  214. PC said,

    on August 31st, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    Bill Spoyer, thank you. I don’t think BO is going to be pres as check out these stats…
    There are 39 million blacks..13% of the us pop.
    And a large number of the 13% are kids under the age of 18…

    By 2050, whites will make up 46 percent of the population and blacks will make up 15 percent, a relatively small increase from today. Hispanics, who make up about 15 percent of the population today, will account for 30 percent in 2050, according to the new projections.

    Asians, which make up about 5 percent of the population, are projected to increase to 9 percent by 2050.

    The population 85 and older is projected to more than triple by 2050, to 19 million.

  215. J D Hone said,

    on August 31st, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    Well PC I didn’t say one word about you not being allowed to post, everyone has the right to speek freely in this country, I think it was someone else who tired of your rants and questioned why your allowed to post on here. Maybe you should take a deep breath and read through the posts to figure out who is saying what. I really enjoy your rants on the flag pin, and the flag, and the hand over the heart during the pledge and of course muslims. About your comment on Obama’s jet how’s old John McCain getting around these days? Horse and buggy or maybe by bicycle or hell maybe he’s walking across this great nation of ours, if thats the case I hope he can hold up, thats alot of miles. Is it truly a symbol that makes a country great “the flag” or is it the quality of its people? The one true concern I have now is your ” I am obsessed with stopping such an ignorant man from becoming the leader of this great country”. How obsessed are you? Do you have a therapist? So much hate is bad for the soul. Thanks for your history lessons Bill Spoyer its nothing that I don’t already know, man has been killing man since the beginning of time and sadly that is one thing I think will never change, I’ve seen rival packs of starving coyotes treat each other with more respect and dignity than “we humans”. GO OBAMA

  216. J D Hone said,

    on August 31st, 2008 at 6:51 pm

    My apologies for misspelling speek. “Speak” there thats better. Oh and if McCain needs fresh horse’s to continue on his journey give me a shout.

  217. PC said,

    on September 1st, 2008 at 10:59 am

    JD, sorry, i meant to put Jenoside…I do not hate BO..those are your words. Some ppl work to get a candidate elected. I am doing the opposite. I do not rant. Ranting is when you go on and on forever about nothing. Everything i post is true. Yes you are right about we want and need someone with quality, BO is not it. He has no background we can go on, not one single accomplishment.

  218. Holly said,

    on September 1st, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    This article was very irresponsible. Why even give ignorant people like white supremacists any attention? I assure you, the majority of people in America frown upon racism. America is sick of the old white man running everything. You aren’t doing a very good job, old white people! Face it. I am a white person and even I know that.

    Luckily, the younger generation (like me) is smarter than that. Racism is not as prevalent as racist people wish it were. We are moving to to the time of post racism. People aren’t as ignorant as they used to be. Get used to that, toothless rednecks.

    Obama 08!!

  219. PC said,

    on September 1st, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    Check out this video…..wow! It is a bit long though.

    http://www.myembarq.com/video/.....b8f3275873

  220. 88`s Jeno-side said,

    on September 2nd, 2008 at 9:51 am

    Holly you hit the nail on the head on this one. You’re right on. I wholeheartly agree with you which is why I tried explaining the truth to PC about about the relatively few and outnumbered “Neo-Conservatives” who make up a very small percentage of registered voters nationwide. And then she goes on to claim I don’t make sense as if she can’t read English. So I didn’t fathom wasting my time debating her because it has gotten nowhere with her no matter who debates her. She is not worth wasting your time. The Neo-Cons are mostly Natavists savages and rabid National Socialists that even Libertarians outnumber them. In order to show you how grossly ignorant these few White Extremists really are, they do not have the slightest clue as to what Senator Juan McCain`s political positions are. One of them being the immigration topic. McCain wants AMNESTY for the 12 million illegals already in the country illegally, that includes issueing driver`s license to illegals.
    These dentally challenged Natavists want the illegals out, yet they’re so dumbed that they support a candidate who’s pro-immigrant. Which is why Rush Limbaugh was denouncing McCain in the first place when it was clear that McCain was the Republican nominee for the Presidential bid. This also explains why many legitimated “White Supremacists” leaders are voting for Obama because of the very policies of McCain is already a failure. Juan McCain wants to keep the failed old Bush`s policies alive. And we had already witnessed during the last 8 years of seeing our American way of life struggling under the failed Bush`s Administration that McCain is sure to follow.

    Which also explains why many many Democratics and Independents and former Conservatives as well as Republicans are voting for Obama. Even the entire world wants Obama elected for Prez.

    Americans 4 Obama!!

  221. PC said,

    on September 2nd, 2008 at 11:58 am

    From Dreams of My Father: ‘It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.’
    JUST ONE OF MANY…

  222. PC said,

    on September 2nd, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    Holly, you know nothing of the true history of this country. Anyone that can possibly call others racists when BO himself is the biggest of all is the ignorant one. I take it you haven’t heard his debates and interviews or read one of his books. I take it you haven’t heard what his wife has been saying. I take it you do not know BOs platform. You have so much to say but can not offer up one single accomplishment of BOs..what has he done for his own state? Since you are young, you probably have done no research. Give me 3 things BO has done to deserve the presidency. My son is 20 and he has alot of friends, including blacks, and not one of them likes BO. He is a poser and tricking ppl just like you.

  223. J D Hone said,

    on September 2nd, 2008 at 6:16 pm

    PC, since we haven’t had a peaceful conversation in a while I thought I would give you an answer to a question you posed to me a few times concerning Obama and I quote “please tell me one single thing he has done to deserve being a president?” Well for sure I can say that “deserve” is a bad choice of words on your part. Way too many people in this country believe they “deserve” many things. A man or woman running for any public office must “earn” the right to represent the people. To tell you the truth this great government of ours is so broken, so corrupt sometimes I wonder if it is beyond repair. So now I give you the one reason why he has earned my vote. He opposed the war in Iraq, yep its that simple, his wait a minute lets not rush to war, I oppose a “dumb war” attitude is what did it for me. Imagine if we had never rushed into Iraq, first of all we would have over 4,000 American men and women still walking this earth, living their lives with their loved ones, we would have thousand’s who’s bodies would still be intact and I can’t even talk about the mental impact on the soldiers and their families.And think of the innocent Iraqi lives lost. Imagine still having the nearly 800 billion dollars that has been spent on this disgraceful war. Imagine if our soldiers had been allowed to finish the job in Afghanistan and maybe just maybe bring the coward Bin Laden to justice. Now we all know that no one from the Bush administration will ever come clean, tell the truth and they damn sure won’t lose any sleep at night thinking about what they have done. So its that simple for me, He opposed the war and earned my vote. Now I’m sure I’ll be attacked over and over for what I have written and I will be told that Obama doesn’t support the troops or I’m not a patriot and Obama has flip flopped on the war in Iraq, please don’t waste your time if thats what you feel you need to write. I’m also sure that I will have to read rants on how Obama will fail us on matters of national security and how he will also fail at defending the American people if or when we endure another 9 11. Does any one really think that any American President would just sit on his ass collect his paycheck and fail the American people in times of crisis, well besides the current administration, now I know that most of what I write will be considered hogwash, I’m a dreamer using magical words like “imagine” believing that the U S can once again be considered the greatest nation on earth for reasons other than our military power but rather for our humanity as it should be. Many have attacked Michelle Obama’s comments on how she spoke of regaining her pride for this country, Why? I for one am not proud to be an American on many occasions, how could anyone be proud of America while watching what happened to our own people during Hurricane Katrina, the greatest failure of government in American history. I am not proud of America for the racism and discrimination that still runs rampant in this country. I’m not proud of America for not doing more for those who need a hand up and while failing to say no to those who think they deserve a hand out. I’m not proud of this country for the selfish attitude of many of its citizens. But I still have hope and its nice to dream about a perfect world every now and then.

  224. GENO-cydal 88 said,

    on September 2nd, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    When it comes to the American Working Man like myself(as well as the middle class America). The difference between McCain and Obama it that–

    McCain support tax cuts for the large corporations and the wealthiest. He’s an elitist. He doesn’t give a damn about the American Working Man.

    Obama has my vote!

  225. PC said,

    on September 3rd, 2008 at 2:40 am

    Some so called Americans are doing the same thing they did when VietNam vets came home..spit in their faces and called them names for doing as they were ORDERED to do, for serving their country. Anyone that calls themselves an American should be kissing McCains azz..and spitting in a muslims face!!! How any American can find any fault with with McCain is just disgraceful and vile. How any American can pick on Sara Palin is sick and disgraceful. Anyone that calls Biden change doesn’t know he is only 5 yrs younger then McCain and has been in politics for 30 yrs..his ideals are old..worn out and he bashed BO like crazy. BO is retarded. Anyone voting for him is UN-AMERICAN to the core!!

  226. PC said,

    on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:44 am

    I would much rather have someone who has military experience, especially alot of it. BO was all for the war but then was prompted to go against it to get votes..pure and simple. He thinks Iran is a tiny country that poses no threat for God’s sake. So is that all you got, that BO is against the war? As i see it, you still have not given any concrete things why you think BO should be our president. I have given many valid reasons why he should not. Tell what he has done, not what he thinks he will do. He most certainly is going to raise taxes, i do not understand how ppl are defending him. He said he wanted to help rebuild Kenya..Who is going to pay for that? Why would we possibly want our hard earned money going to Kenya. He wants to stop funding the military and the space program so he can send money to Kenya. Are you ppl listening? He wants to build more low income housing..just what we want and need..to rebuild ghettos and give them a bigger welfare check..great idea. That will make for a sound economy. He chooses a VP who is only 5 yrs younger then McCain, who has the same ideals and same ideas as McCain..LOL..WOW, that sounds like change..LOL. Biden was busy bashing BO too, saying he did not think BO would make a good president..LOL. Listen, we should just agree to disagree. You are supporting a man who will most surely destroy our country. He has an agenda. You said it all when you said there were times you were not proud to be an American. Have you read MOs thesis? Did you know her job at the hosp is getting rid of the poor, sending them to clinics? She loves her job..she thinks they are beneath her.

  227. PC said,

    on September 3rd, 2008 at 12:03 pm

    All BO supporters are ill informed or not informed at all..they have done no research at all…this alone is enought not to vote for him…but i am sure that no matter how many facts are given..ppl seem to be completely blinded and deaf..
    http://votesmart.org/voting_ca.....mp;go.y=10

  228. J D Hone said,

    on September 3rd, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    PC, Has anyone on here written anything disrespectful towards McCain or American Soldiers? Who has shown any disrespect toward McCain and his service to this country? The only person showing any disrespect on here is you. I’m an American and I’ll be damned if I’ll kiss anyone’s ass no matter what their accomplishments or who they are. What in the hell do you mean by saying that? My God get a grip, I asked you on a previous post if you have a therapist, please seek one out. The Bush administration lied to the world on why we should invade Iraq and they will never be held accountable for their actions, that is fact. Does that mean that anyone should put the blame on the soldiers of this country HELL NO. I grew up among three members of the greatest generation, my father and two of my uncles fought bravely during world war two so I know about patriotism and respect for the men and women in our military. By listening to their stories and that is the key, LISTENING, I also began to understand how completely obscene and disgraceful war is. I learned this from their own words. My father spoke of walking through what was left of Hiroshima after the bomb, “there was a bridge covered with the shadows of children, burnt into the stone, nothing left but dust”. He would later be sentenced to one year of hard labor for stealing leftovers from the mess hall, WHAT WAS HIS CRIME? He was feeding the orphaned children who where starving to death. That is the truth of war. My uncle Edward’s entire company was blown to pieces on D-day and yet he made it through without a scratch and because he was the sole “surviver” he lived with a guilt that no one could ever understand, he turned to the bottle, his family disowned him and was he found dead in a run down motel room. That is the truth of war. You say “anyone that calls themselves an American should be kissing McCains ass and spitting in a Muslims face”! Well I am an American and I will do neither and honestly I think most Americans would be embarrassed to stand in the same room with you. How did I know that you would bring up Muslims again, please tell the world your “feelings” or lack of “feelings” towards the many different races and religions on this planet. You told me before that your rants are not “hate” please explain to the world that if its not “hate” then what the hell is it? What else could it possibly be? Fear, distrust, selfishness, racist, loathing, closeminded, self righteous? Which best descibes who you are? What are you made of? How foolish I am for thinking that different opnions and ideas could be shared with grace and understanding. Obama 08

  229. J D Hone said,

    on September 3rd, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    My apologies for spelling “where” and “opnions” wrong, WERE, and OPINIONS. Those little typo’s mean that I’ve fallen under the spell of PC, anger, anger, anger. Obama 08

  230. 88`s Jeno-side said,

    on September 3rd, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    One has to be the biggest retard to vote for McCain. Every true American already know that the war in Iraq was a fluke. Sadam Hussien did not have WMD as Dick “war monger” Cheney famously exaggerated before the American public and Bush lapped it up. That war alone was based on falty intelligence has cost the American tax payer trillions of dollars and counting. Which explains why the economy is faltering because of all the funds going to Iraq.
    With McCain who famously stated that “we might be in Iraq for another 100 years.” Is not the solution to our problems as Americans. I believe it when most American are tired of Iraq and its time to bring our troops home and focus on Afagnistan and Iran. Barak Obama judgement was correct and he saw that war in Iraq as flawed and poorly planned. With McCain, he will keep troops in Iraq and keep on meddeling into their affairs. Its about time the Iraquis take care of their own country and affairs and leave the U.S. out of it. We cannot be their babysitter forever.
    If you are not the soiution then you are part of the problem.

    Only the retards will vote for McCain!!

    The American might firmly stands behind Barak Obama!!

  231. Eddogg said,

    on September 4th, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    88`s Jeno-side said,

    “Only the retards will vote for McCain!!”

    That’s a bit harsh. The man was a POW for crying out loud! For your right to call people retards for voting fo whomever they see fit, that’s called democracy. Which is why we need McCain in the White House. Especially with an old advasary named Russia stirring the pot again!
    Sen. Obama is left of Stalin.

  232. PC said,

    on September 4th, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    JD, i have no idea where you are coming from..all my posts are in answer to someone. What in the world are you talking about? I only give facts about BO and will continue to do so in hopes to change some ppls minds on voting for him. Telling facts is not disrespectful. You are the one that needs some serious therapy if you think any muslims could possibly be our friends. I wouldn’t want to stand in a room with you either. I have over 4000 friends on and off the net so i most certainly do not need your acceptance. You should stop worrying about my posts and move on. I will continue to try and stop BO from ruining our country. Dems are and always have been the armpit of parties!!!! You even admit that you do not care about a candidates accomplishments…what a bizzare thing to say!

  233. PC said,

    on September 4th, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    88,s I agree about the war..but McCain did not start it…But it has to be finished not just left up in the air..we are still receiving threats. I do not want a man who has no military skills..I do not want a man that would not visit the soldiers in the hosp because he couldn’t bring in the cameras. My friend has 3 sons there, and another friend has a son there. We have alot of ppl who are or were there. I know first hand what’s going on there and i assure you, most soldiers hate BOs guts. BO wants to get rid of the military and the space program and leave us defenseless..He wants to send the money saved from crashing down the military to rebuild Kenya..LOL..he wants to raise taxes to build more low income housing…Now you really have to be tart to vote for that!!!

  234. PC said,

    on September 4th, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    Eddog, you are right!

  235. 88`s Jeno-side said,

    on September 4th, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    Eddogg “for crying out loud”..

    (Sigh)
    I wasn’t calling Juan McCain a retard. I was merely pointing out that anyone who votes for McCain is voting for the same OLD policies of a failed administration. Maybe if you read my post more carefully, then you`ll probably understand why McCain must not win. Besides, McCain is PRO-AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS already in the country illegally. But sorry to disappoint you and all the McCainiacs.
    According to the polls taken on the CBS Evening Mews Wed. night right after the RNC, survey among registered voters shows that–

    67% supports Obama

    And

    26% supports McCain

    Barak Obama is still in the lead, both politically and finacially. A minority has no place in the Republcoon Party. Ever noticed that not a singled colored person was in the crowd at the RNC?

  236. PC said,

    on September 4th, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    Here are some of the celebs that support and donated to McCain.
    Among those attending: Dean Cain (Superman); James Caan (Godfather I and II, Bottle Rocket); Jon Voight (Midnight Cowboy, Deliverance); Robert
    Davi (License to Kill); Lou Ferrigno (The Incredible Hulk); Adam Carolla (The Man Show); Lacy Chabert (Party of Five); Angie Harmon (Law & Order); Victoria Jackson (Saturday Night Live); Gerald McRaney (Simon & Simon, Major Dad); Jon Cryer (Two and a Half Men); Lorenzo Lamas (The Bold and the Beautiful, Renegade); Kevin Sorbo (Hercules); Patricia Heaton (Everybody Loves Raymond); George Newbern (Father of the Bride); and Robert Duvall (The Godfather and The Godfather II, Apocalypse Now). The dinner co-chairman was Jerry Bruckheimer, producer of wildly popular television shows such as CSI, Cold Case, and Without a Trace, and films such as Pirates of the Caribbean.

  237. Frank said,

    on September 5th, 2008 at 10:02 am

    eddogg……..you lost all hope of having an intelligent conversation when you opened up your post with hurtling names…..

    ie…….juan McCain…..

    You said, after the second grade mouthwash of McCain, that anyone voting for McCain is voting for the “same failed policies of the Bush administration”………..

    Im getting so sick and tired of hearing the same thing……over and over and over and over over and over and over and over over and over and over and over………

    its reduntant……..and if Im not mistaken……ONLY the retarded and mentally impaired do just that..repeat themselves over and over and over.etc….

    I hate to give you the GOOD news that will inevitably crush your infatuation with your ‘failed Bush policies’..or this asinine remark ‘He voted with Bush 90% of the time”……..

    Before I throw this reality boulder at you I have to say this to you and your insipdly moronic base……

    BUSH DOESNT VOTE ON LEGISLATION……..
    DEMOCRATS VOTED 90% OF THE TIME WITH McCAIN…..

    so WHAT doest that say??……

    that the democrats are as stupid….

    that shit about ‘failed Bush policies’ and ‘90% of the time’ mental graffiti is not only getting old…….its labeling you people as nothing more than ignorant…with no ideas or sayings of your own……

    like a puppy dog…..following his master……oblivious to the world around you…..just whats in your own mind……….

    Lets see…….lets talk about this ‘failed policies’……

    WHAT failed policies are you talking about….all of this failed policies talk is nothing more than 2 or 3 words put together……..to attempt to make a substancial conversation…..

    HOW ABOUT if you elaborate a little……let ME know about these ‘failed policies’ of the Bush administration……

    NOW…….since I have actually challenged your democratic mantra of these ‘failed policies’ to show mw actual proof, instead of collective dogma…….let me educate you a little on these failed policies of your enemy……

    read it ALL…..

    I think thats a little more quicker for me…and it s-p-e-l-l-s everything out for you……and if you need me to come back and explain this in a more lamens term for you…….

    just ask……

    Look people…………there is some things that I DO NOT agree with McCain on……but when it comes to this clown-bama…….I disagree with him, his like, and his counterparts on 100% of everything……

    for the simple fact his proposals are nothing more than the 40-acre-and mule proposals….for HIS people……EVERYTHING is about the black people……

    People are voting for clown-bama for 2 resons and 2 reasons ONLY……

    1.) hes black
    2.) they hate Bush

    NOTHING ELSE………..

    For somebody in this country to ’show’ everyone around them that we have gotten past this ‘racism’ that continues to live in the minds of the people that have no work ethic and only wanting something for nothing……to ’show’ the rest of the world that you WILL NOT vote for a White man because hes White…..and then turn around and vote for a person BECAUSE theyre black……

    doesnt that ’show’ the rest of the world that we HAVENT gotten past this false ora of racism……that this man has made president (and I promise you that if and when that clown gets the White house…….he will be known as KING…..guaranteed..afterall, “president” is a White mans term……..just like Christianity is a White mans religions [their words, not mine])……STRICTLY because hes black?!?!?!?!…….

    Ignorant people dont see this…well, they CANNOT see this…………because their mind doesnt work in an intelligent manner….

    but the intelligent are able to sipher through the other side of the coin….and to see what their true agenda actually IS……(’conditioned’ Whites, like you, are just as guilty as the ignorantees)….

    If a person really cared about this country, its ideals, its heritage, its traditions………they would not be supporting clown-bama…..they would be smarter if they would LOOK at the issues instead of listening to the next democrat and repeating what THEY say/said……..

    this ‘color-blind’ society is a total farce…..the only thing that has happened is that the lens have turned a shade darker…..

    And mark my word…..you WILL pay the price for advancing and elevating these people above you and your own that do not like you is a very dangerous thing to do…..

    they dont want to be ‘equal to you’……..as far as opportunity and and freedoms…..hell, they cant handle it!!……they believe that ‘equality’ is nothing more than a materialistic issue…..

    these people are MORE than equal……IF you happen to be in the ‘diverse’ or ‘multi-cultural’ society, such as me…….I want you to look around, notice.and take heed….these people have a cell-phone glued to their heads, they have a newer vehicle than you, they have more jewelry on their neck than you do in your jewelry box at the house, they wear better clothes than you, they have better jobs than you, they go to colleges before the White guy that they feel was born with a silver spoon in his ass, they have more freaking programs to help them stay up to par with the ‘others’ around them…..

    so that ‘equal’ dogma is just that DOGMA…..these people have tipped the scales, THROUGH PEOPLE LIKE YOU having this feeling of sorryness or guilt……and now, theyre wanting to break the plates of the scales….

    Ignorance is abundant…..and White ignorance is dangerous…..

  238. 88`s Jeno-side said,

    on September 5th, 2008 at 10:18 am

    “Now you really have to be a tart to vote for that.”

    PC, thanks for calling me a “tart”.(that’s like calling someone a sweetheart)
    Normally I’m not into Neo-Nazi chicks, although some are alright but their belief system and political stance is a huge turn off.
    You and I have different political positions(you a Republican and I am an Indie) so we may never get along. In fact, we may even be enemies since you’re a White Supremacist and I am an American. It is Un-American to nose around into other countries and get into their affairs. We need to stop playing the title of World Police, unless absulutely neccessary. Sadam never had WMD`s. Iran is in the process of doing so. But going straight to war without dialogue isn’t the solution. We need to develope a dialogue with our enemies before militarial action is taken and Obama has that ambition. McCain refuse to have a sit down and talk with the enemy, instead he wants to take us to straight into another war that we cannot afford. Our Military is stretched thin and does not have the manpower to wage such an egregious war.
    Which is why we could not come to the immidiate rescue in response to the Russian onlaught on our Georgian friends. So all we could do is send aide. Because we are stuck in Iraq.

    You say the Iraq War was not McCain`s fault. Oh yes it is and here’s why–
    1.) He bought into that faulty intelligence by George Tenet.
    2.) He voted for the war
    3.) He wants to keep us there”for another 100 years.” When we are urgently needed elsewhere such as in Georgia.
    4.) The Iraquis need to take matters into their own hands by taking back their own country from terrorists. We cannot babysit them forever.

    If anyone watched the RNC, many would noticed that they hardly addressed the problems we have as Americans, instead they spent 99% of the speeches attacking Barak Obama with no real plans for addressing the problens that American middle class and working class needs. And the working class and middles class make up the largest population in America. So what does McCain do???

    Well he taxs the middle class making them poorer and poorer everyday. He won’t tax the rich and weealthy.
    And the middle class are the backbone of our economy because we work our asses off trying to make ends meet where the rich do squat and that’s what McCain kisses up to. And PC, many of you Neo-Nazis friends in the WN movement are middle and lower class citizens. So you’re gonna betray them by voting for someone who laps up to the rich???

    BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!…….

    And by the way, Juan McCain is–

    PRO-AMNESTY.

  239. Frank said,

    on September 5th, 2008 at 10:36 am

    My badd, eddog……..I still have a hard time following this site map…….

    all apologies……….

    the same thing happened to me…..some people thought I said something that I didnt……I was actually quoting someone else, like you were……but, sometimes its hard to see on this panel…..

    I was, now as I see, directing that post to who you were talking about or to…….jenoside or something………

    Like I said…….all apologies, my man……..I was wrong……

  240. J D Hone said,

    on September 5th, 2008 at 11:51 am

    PC, You failed to answer my questions concerning your ignorant comments, you know “kiss McCains ass and spit in a Muslims face” is that not hate? Do your 4000 friends have the same “feelings” as you? Yes, I think they probably do. I’ve never heard of a person that keeps a running tally of the number of friends they have. Strange, must be tough to remember all of their names. I have an idea when Obama wins maybe the good people of this country could pitch in and send you and your 4000 friends to an island somewhere, I have a feeling this would be a better country without you people in it. Go Obama

  241. PC said,

    on September 5th, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    Frank, very refreshing post. Like a breath of fresh air..for a CHANGE..LOL. Not one person on here or any other chats i have been to can name 3 accomplishments of BOs..So like you said, it is soooooo obvious what they are voting for. Just as an intelligent person wouldn’t go to a dentist for brain surgery, who wants a totally inexperienced president. A community organizer, what ever that is. All these Bush whiners do not look any thinner in such “hard” times. Only greedy ppl who chose to live above their means or who were uneducated are having hard times and they blame Bush. You see these ppl with the cell phone ear pieces and they’re on welfare..those things are expensive as is cable/DSL but they have it..mmmm? Hard times…LOL. There are kids in school that have Ipods and Blackberries and cells, and very expensive clothes, but they get free lunch…LOL…The ppl in NO were told to evacuate a week before Katrina..they CHOSE to stick around so they could loot, but it’s all Bush’s fault…LOL. He didn’t even know they never fixed the levy!!! The media are going overkill to promote a total moron!!! It is just so scary and bizzare.

  242. PC said,

    on September 5th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    JD, i meant 400..and i have been online since 94 so i have alot of friends..some are family and friends from my hometown up north..I thought i did answer your question..No, i don’t think what i said is hateful. Anyone making fun or insulting a POW is a hateful person and i will counter attack. You and others do not know the diff btwn hate and defense. Oh yes, everyone i know including vets and soldiers in Iraq and Afgan are totally against BO..you bet. Of course i know all my friends and family..what a rediculous statement. Half are in my address book so i can’t forget. I have been to 100s of message boards and forums and chats..I assure you not many agree with you on BO..Ok, now your turn…name 3 accomplishments of BOs.

  243. PC said,

    on September 5th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    88 Jenoside…LOL..I am an independent and always have been..I vote strictly on who i think will do the best job. I am most certainly not a member of any white clubs, nor am i a neo nazi or anything else you may have said. I am a musician..a mother and a wife. My position is that BO is not president material, pure and simple..If i were blind, i still would not vote for BO..pure and simple. McCain did not start the war..I have many friends and family who are vets, including my x-husband who was in Nam for 5 and a half yrs..I have many friends, family who are or were in Iraq, so don’t tell me i am not AMERICAN..I would bet my last dollar i know alot more about what’s going on they you ever will. I can assure you, without a doubt, soldiers hate BO. It is unamerican to nose around? LOL..ever hear of NATO, the UN? Are you saying that because there were no nukes Sadam was a wonderful guy and good and kind to his ppl and not at all interested in messing with the USA? LOL..Did you not hear BO say that Iran is a tiny country and poses no threat? Stop with the 100 yr thing..it was just a hypo not a reality for God’s sake..You should take the dangerous things BO says so seriously. You did not watch or pay attention to the RNC as very little time was spent on BO..Did you hear the DNC, BO attacked McCain throughout as he had nothing better to offer up. Yes, they offered quite a bit, you just weren’t paying attention. Name 3 accomplishments of BO’s. What qualifies him to be a president? All your posts and you still can’t do it.

  244. PC said,

    on September 5th, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    Frank, yes i too have gotten some BO supporters mixed up as they are all the same..cut from the same loin cloth.

  245. Eddogg said,

    on September 5th, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    Frank said,

    My badd, eddog……..I still have a hard time following this site map…….ank said,

    Apology accepted :)

  246. J D Hone said,

    on September 5th, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    PC, my apologies concerning your numbers of friends. I know the difference between defense and hate. Tell me have you spent your entire life on the defense? Give me three reasons why I shouldn’t vote for Obama. Oh and by the way I take offense to your comment above, “cut from the same loin cloth” Now you discriminate against those of us who wear loin cloth’s? Sad, very sad. Why did the Republicans steal the word change from Obama’s campaign? You would think they would be smart enough to come up with their own slogan. GO OBAMA

  247. J D Hone said,

    on September 5th, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    PC, by the way I did watch the RNC they all attacked Obama, most of Sara Palin’s acceptance speech was an attack on Obama, or maybe she’s just on the defense, wow that sound’s familiar. It was all very negative, fear, negative, be afraid, terrorists, fear, and negative. Then of course there was Giuliani and I wondered how long it would take for him to bring up 9 11. But not a one of them spoke of the lies about Iraq, not one of them spoke of the failures of government during hurricane Katrina. I sure loved the part when Bush showed his face on the big screen. Hell of a convention when their to embarrassed to have their hero president show up “in the flesh”.

  248. Zinn said,

    on September 5th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    Blacks only make up 15% of the population, latinos and hispanics arouns the same (for now) asian and pacific islanders about half of that (if not less). whites? over 50%, there is no way anyone could win without white votes..

    Neo-nazi’s ideology, logic, and reasoning is flawed, hitler wanted to praise the arian race…turns out the arian race are light skinned middle-easterns. He was obvisiouly ignorant as well as these followers.

    FACT: Europe is a powerful, yet small continent, with asia, south america, and africa being waaaaaaaay larger with a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay larger population. There is no way a race war would go well for neo-nazi’s.

    give real reasons, facts, and evidence to hate someone and not to vote for them.

  249. Zinn said,

    on September 5th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    also pc. JM hasn’t done anything on his own, he piggy backed off of his dad and grandfather through his military career (example, he failed a test, couldn’t get anywhere until??? they found out who his dad was) even as a POW, no real enemy will take care of you….unless…who is your father??? Once his first wife became all deformed lol he left her for a rich young hottie…whom he is piggy backing off of now (wow).

    BO? single mother house hold, still made his way through college…Havard btw, WHICH, he became head of the havard review at. Helped many americans get back on their feet, while in the senate crossed party lines to get real problems solved. only amazing reps. i can think of is Raegon, and Lincoln (which, btw, was with the republicans back when their views were more like the democratics are now)

    good dems.? ummm clinton, JFK, both notably caused life changing events.

    Why should JM be president? because he was stuck in a box for 6 years? why should sp be vp? because he dances with dolphins on the bridge to nowhere?

    again, more false claims and logic..NEXT

  250. Zinn said,

    on September 5th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    oh and finally, soldiers don’t hate “BO” on the dem. convention, something they didn’t show on tv were many many vets signing off, supporting obama, actually, he had more soldiers there then mccain had. Do not make more false claims.

  251. Eddogg said,

    on September 5th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    88`s Jeno-side said,

    “Normally I’m not into Neo-Nazi chicks”

    I’ve converted one or two of them in my day;)

  252. J D Hone said,

    on September 5th, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    Hey Frank, that was a hell of a post, you know the real, real, real, real, real long one. With all the talk of “his people”, “them”, “they”, “them”, “they”, “ignorance” and of course “dangerous, dangerous dangerous”. Damn, do all of you folks suffer from uncontrollable fear and paranoia?
    Sorry I repeated what I read over and over and over. Does that mean I’m re ret reta retar, DAMN IT, retarded?

  253. 88`s Jeno-side said,

    on September 6th, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    Frank since you are legally blind or blind for that matter (both politically and optic visionary), you mistaken me for Eddogg, thus your asisine comments was directed at me. So I will address you–

    You cried–
    “I am sick and tired of hearing the same things over and over and over and blah blah etc…”

    88`s:The number of my comment posted on here is very low(I figured maybe 6 or 7 of them out of 240 or so) and I hardly said the same things on here. And if you put your reading glasses back on and see how many posts have PC placed on here is NUMEROUS!! I mean, way too copious. And nearly all of her comments are basically the same old thing reiterating itself menacidally. You should be directing that statement of yours to PC, and not me!

    You–

    “Ignorance is abundance…..and White ignorance is dangerous.”

    88`s: Yes and that’s very true considering PC`s is most notorious of all of them on here. And she’s “White”, so that means she’s “dangerous” too?!? It sure sounds like it to me.

    Old Man McCain may have been tortured in Nam, but that alone does not justify him to become a president. Hell, a lot of Americans have been tortured! Whether it was at war, at the comforts of your own home, in the prison system, or at the fondling hands of a psychopathetic killer! Does that mean those Americans can become president too because they were tortured? Absolutely not. Its the same old failed policies of yesterdays. And Old Man McCain is a man of yesterday! We need change and his majestic heights!! Obama can do it! For the betterment of Americans!

    I said it before and I will continue to say it again–

    JUAN McCAIN IS PRO-AMNESTY!

  254. J D Hone said,

    on September 6th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    Zinn, excellent posts. I for one love the fact that a Bush speech writer wote Palins speech. Now thats change to believe in. Comparing McCains small talk to Bush’s was also very enlightening, I wonder has anyone heard from PC? I have a few questions concerning the “bridge to nowhere” Why did the state of Alaska keep the 200 million, what did they spend all of our money on? Maybe a moose breeding program, you know important shit. I think its time for a change. Thanks again Zinn as PC would say your posts are refreshing.

  255. PC said,

    on September 6th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    JD, all that was said was true and in response to all the BS that BO had spewed out. NAME ME 3 ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF BOs…YOU CAN’T…you have had plenty of opportunity to defend your candidate..you haven’t and you can’t…Hang it up.

  256. PC said,

    on September 6th, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    Zinn, where did you say you got that info on McCain? Name 3 accomplishments of BOs…He was a total unknown, and his own state had never heard of him, even though he was a senator..but who knows senators unless they’re Hillary. He went to college because he was half a negro…pure and simple. There are plenty of kids that had good grades, couldn’t go to Harvard and parents that couldn’t afford it…so BO piggybacked off affirmative action as did his wife. He worked for absolutely nothing. If you cannot name 3 of his accomplishments then don’t bother responding to me anymore.

  257. PC said,

    on September 6th, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    Zinn..and like i said, i have family, friends and epals as soldiers and soldiers mothers so think i know what is going on over there..and most hate BO…trust me!

  258. PC said,

    on September 6th, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    Frank, have you taken notice to how many times i have asked these ppl to name 3 accomplishments of BOs and all they do is rant and rave and talk rhetoric, redundant garbage? LOL..it is just hysterical..Not one can do it..name 3 accomplishments of Biden then…who is almost as old as McCain..LOL. BO has nothing and is nothing on his own so he had to have a greek structure, an Apollo setting for his back drop..LOL..we had such a good laugh at that one. Apollo, Jesus, Obama…

  259. Robert Wayne said,

    on September 6th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    It’s obvious that a lot of idiotic whites have been brainwashed by the left wing media and Hollywood into believing scum like Obama would make a good president. And McCain is a sellout concerning the wetback invasion too. We really have nobody to vote for in this election. The only hope for this country is if a third part of right wing extremists were to come into power. I doubt if SPLC will post this comment, since I’m obviously not a commie sympathizing left wing extremist, but I’d love to see if by some miracle they believe in freedom of speech for those of us who realize what a load of b.s. their agenda is.

  260. PC said,

    on September 6th, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    With all the talk of qualifications swirling around vice presidential nominee and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the joke has ended up being on Barack Obama, who by the way is running on the top of his ticket. As Palin herself pointed out in her speech, Obama’s strutting about his experience as a “community organizer” leaves a bit to be desired. She compared it to being a small-town mayor, with the exception that the mayor has “actual responsibilities,” a line that will no doubt become immortal in this campaign. James Taranto of The Wall Street Journal notes that while Democrats are complaining about putting “the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency,” Obama, the community organizer, will be “no heartbeats away.” And Taranto still isn’t sure what a “community organizer” does. He asks, “Are we supposed to cast our eyes on the slums of Chicago, behold how well organized they are, and exclaim in wonder, ‘Wow, Barack Obama did that!’?”

    After receiving an email from David Plouffe of the Obama campaign explaining, “Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies,” Taranto thinks he’s finally got the answer. “[C]ommunity organizing consists of helping elect Barack Obama president!” He concludes, “The community Barack Obama has organized is, in Plouffe’s own telling, the community of those who admire Barack Obama. He is mayor of Obamaville and aspires to be president of Barackistan.”
    This week’s ‘Alpha Jackass’ award

    This week, CNN’s Anderson Cooper asked Obama, “Some Republican critics say you don’t have the experience to handle a situation like this [Hurricane Gustav]. They’ve in fact said that Governor Palin has more executive experience as mayor of a small town and as governor of a big state like Alaska. What’s your response?”

    Obama replied, “Well, you know, my understanding is that, uh, Governor Palin’s town of Wasilly [sic] has, uh, 50 employees, uh, uh, we’ve got 2,500, uh, in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe $12 million a year. Uh, uh, we have a budget of about three times that just for the month. Uh, so I think that, uh, our ability to manage large systems, uh, and to, uh, execute, uh, I think has been made clear over the last couple of years. Uh, and certainly, in terms of, uh, the legislation that I’ve passed just dealing with this issue post-Katrina, uh, of how we handle emergency management. The fact that, uh, many of my recommendations were adopted and are being put in place, uh, as we speak, indicates the extent to which we can provide the kinds of support and good service that the American people expect.”

    Memo to former “community organizer” Obama: Palin is, in fact, governor of Alaska, which has annual budget of approximately $11 billion and more than 20,000 employees. She manages far more than a campaign and has done far more than co-sponsor non-controversial legislation.

    And if Obama were in charge of Wasilla, the town of 9,000 would no doubt employ 2,500 on a budget of $36 million a month.

  261. J D Hone said,

    on September 7th, 2008 at 10:23 am

    Hey PC , I’ve missed you, I thought maybe all that hate your packing in your heart may have done you in. I don’t need to DEFEND my candidate from no one, especially you. I just love it when the only words you “Americans” can use is defend, attack, dangerous, them, they. If you run in to Palin please tell her to give back the 200 million for “the bridge” and please tell her to stop using Bush speech writers, my God even I could write my own speech.

  262. PC said,

    on September 7th, 2008 at 11:54 am

    JD..i told you until you come up with 3 accomplishments of BOs, i will no longer respond to you. I have told you plenty why he should not be pres…it is your turn.

  263. J D Hone said,

    on September 7th, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    PC, then why are you still responding? I guess I must have brought up things that bother you, good luck in your little hate filled paranoid life now please leave me alone. GO OBAMA


  264. on September 8th, 2008 at 12:30 am

    TO PC SAID; YOU SEEM TO BE MAKING FUN OF OBAMA’S SPEECH. EVERYONE KNOWS HE IS A GREAT SPEAKER AND VERY INTELLIGENT. DID IT EVER CROSS YOUR MIND THAT HE IS TIRED. THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS TO INTELLIGENT PEOPLE WHEN THEY OVER EXERT THEMSELVES. HE HAS BEEN ON THE ROAD FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS WITH LIMITED FREE TIME. GIVE HIM A BREAK. WE ALL ADORE THE WAY HE CARRIES HIMSELF. INTELLIGENT, DIGNIFIED, AND SOMEONE WE CAN FINALLY LOOK UP TO POLITICALLY. IT HAS BEEN YEARS. MY FAMILY FROM YEARS AGO WOULD BE SO HAPPY. THE HAWORTHS HAD AN UNDERGROUND RAILROAD. I KNOW THEY ARE SMILING DOWN AT OBAMA AND THANKING GOD THAT THE DAY FINALLY CAME THAT A MAN IS TRULY JUDGED BY OTHER THAN THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN. MOST WHITES ANYMORE DON’T THINK BADLY. IT IS JUST A FEW THAT GET ALOT OF PUBLIC RECOGNITION. MY 19 YEAR OLD SON TOLD ME THAT IT IS SO COOL TO BE AN OBAMA SUPPORTER. I ALMOST CRIED WHEN HE TOLD ME THAT. OUR FUTURE IS LOOKING UP BY THE GRACE OF GOD. THEY SELL T-SHIRTS WITH HIS NAME ON THEM IN POPULAR CLOTHING STOES. SO WAKE UP AND EDUCATE YOURSELVES. READ YOUR BIBLE MORE CLOSELY. ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. THE BIBLE SAYS. HUMMMMMMMM.

  265. KAREN said,

    on September 8th, 2008 at 8:49 pm

    It is hard to believe there are actually such nuts out there willing to put their names and faces with the fecal matter flowing from their mouths. Hopefully they have not
    reproduced.

    As for those hiding behind usernames and fake email addresses, how very sad you aren’t big enough to defend your asinine views.

    Regarding Palin, better do your homework. If you haven’t had enough religious nutjob over the past eight years, she’s your man.

    GoBAMA 2008!

  266. PC said,

    on September 9th, 2008 at 1:09 am

    Wall Street Journal

    Who Am I?
    I am under 45 years old,
    I love the outdoors,
    I hunt,
    I am a Republican reformer,
    I have taken on the Republican Party establishment,
    I have many children,
    I have a spot on the national ticket as vice president with less than two years in the governor’s office.
    Did you guess?

    I am Teddy Roosevelt in 1900

  267. PC said,

    on September 9th, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    Wanda, you said..>>>
    YOU SEEM TO BE MAKING FUN OF OBAMA’S SPEECH. EVERYONE KNOWS HE IS A GREAT SPEAKER AND VERY INTELLIGENT. DID IT EVER CROSS YOUR MIND THAT HE IS TIRED. THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS TO INTELLIGENT PEOPLE WHEN THEY OVER EXERT THEMSELVES. HE HAS BEEN ON THE ROAD FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS WITH LIMITED FREE TIME. GIVE HIM A BREAK. WE ALL ADORE THE WAY HE CARRIES HIMSELF. INTELLIGENT, DIGNIFIED, AND SOMEONE WE CAN FINALLY LOOK UP TO POLITICALLY. IT HAS BEEN YEARS. MY FAMILY FROM YEARS AGO WOULD BE SO HAPPY. THE HAWORTHS HAD AN UNDERGROUND RAILROAD. I KNOW THEY ARE SMILING DOWN AT OBAMA AND THANKING GOD THAT THE DAY FINALLY CAME THAT A MAN IS TRULY JUDGED BY OTHER THAN THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN. MOST WHITES ANYMORE DON’T THINK BADLY. IT IS JUST A FEW THAT GET ALOT OF PUBLIC RECOGNITION. MY 19 YEAR OLD SON TOLD ME THAT IT IS SO COOL TO BE AN OBAMA SUPPORTER. I ALMOST CRIED WHEN HE TOLD ME THAT. OUR FUTURE IS LOOKING UP BY THE GRACE OF GOD. THEY SELL T-SHIRTS WI!
    TH HIS NAME ON THEM IN POPULAR CLOTHING STOES. SO WAKE UP AND EDUCATE YOURSELVES. READ YOUR BIBLE MORE CLOSELY. ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. THE BIBLE SAYS. HUMMMMMMMM.
    First off, all caps is very rude. Second, not everyone thinks BO is a great speaker, including me. He stutters and stammers and drools all over the place and hasn’t a clue to what he is saying. Who is we all? You are very sadly mistaken as there are millions voting against BO. Read all my posts, they tell you all you need to know on why he is a dangerous and not at all what the ppl need or want in a president. Can you name 3 accomplishments of his? He has been a senator for all of 173 days for God’s sake!!!! His own state had no idea who he was till he popped out of no where to run for president.


  268. on September 9th, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    I am not afraid to put my name on something that I beleive in. No fecal matter flowing from my mouth. The truth is the truth and that cannot be denied. sorry. I am sure the writer is not speaking of me. right karen?????

  269. oklahoma said,

    on September 10th, 2008 at 12:15 am

    Racism is so sad!!! You people suck Obama is the saviour for America. Thiscountry is in bad shape and only an idiot could’nt see that. I only hope Bush has’nt messed it up so bad that we can’t get back to the way things were. So get off your high horse and just get ready cuz the next president is gonna be a black man!!!!!!!!!

  270. oklahoma said,

    on September 10th, 2008 at 12:36 am

    How stupid can white supremacist be? No one is gonna join your cause because your cause is stupid. Lets get real racism is played out. I like to think that finally America is moving forward and realizing that all men are created equal and should be judged by the content of their character. How beautiful is it to see Obama with his family, this is only the beginning. Surely the world is changing & one day we will be able to join hands and sing the words of the old negro spriritual . Martin Luther King would be proud.

  271. JD Hone said,

    on September 10th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    You bet PC your one to tell someone else how rude they are while refusing to explain your vile remarks and your hate speech. SO THIS IS RUDE TO YOU, USING CAPS?
    But you spewing your crap of “kiss McCains ass and spit in a Muslims face” , Talking like that is OK right? Nothing rude there. How about your comment that “you are obsessed with stopping such and ignorant man from becoming the leader of this great country” Explain what you meant? Those supporting Obama don’t have to tell you one damn thing. What a hypocrite you are telling other people they are rude!!! I myself decided not to waste another second of my life dealing with you, its a waste of time. People like you can’t be civil and you feel better about yourself if your tearing some one else down. Again you bring up Muslims why? You refused to explain your hatred of Muslims to me over and over again. People like you are way to easy to figure out so let me guess its because of 9 11 you hate all Muslims, I’m I right? I know you will never answer I’m wasting my time. What gives you the right to attack the people on here who are supporting Obama? You have no respect for other peoples ideas or beliefs and at the same time you think you deserve respect? How many times have you avoided my questions? I will vote for Obama because he believes an act of war should be the last option when dealing with the threats we face, because he will not lie to the world and make up excuses for war. None posting one here needs to explain one damn thing to you and certainly noone needs to stand up and defend Obama from the likes of you. I for one tired of your mindless hate filled rants when I first read your dribble. I thought I would be able to ignore you but when you bash each and every person who will vote for Obama thats sickening. I asked you before what your made of remember? You never answered remember?

  272. JD Hone said,

    on September 10th, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    Oh and by the way PC who in the hell are you to say that Obama is “not at all what the people need or want in a president”? Your speaking on behalf of every single person in this country now?

  273. PC said,

    on September 12th, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    My friend who is a reporter said they edited Palins whole interview..she was interrupted constantly and not allowed to finish an answer. Gibson was clearly trying to trip her up and clearly harassed her..anyone can see how her answers were cut off…and the media is trying now to say she had incomplete answers..LOL..people can see and know the media is completely dissing her. But i think intelligent ppl will see this. It is also evident they are trying to make Hillary supporters and women voters to think she is incapable..NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!! Who the hell does BO think he is sending 20 lawyers to investigate her? He is nothing more then a candidate!!!!

  274. PC said,

    on September 12th, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    McCain leads Obama by 55 percent to 37 percent among whites. That includes margins of 24 points with suburban whites and 26 points with whites who haven’t finished college, plus similar advantages with white men and married whites.
    The poll finds that despite Democratic attempts to tie McCain to the profoundly unpopular Bush, half say they believe the Arizonan would chart a different course - including a slight majority of independents, a pivotal bloc of voters. In addition, although slightly more call themselves Democrats than Republicans, conservatives have a huge 40 percent to 20 percent edge over liberals.

    Obama leads 61 percent to 35 percent among voters under age 30. He has about a 5-to-1 edge with minorities and narrow advantages with college graduates and women, though he trails among white women 53 percent to 40 percent.
    Asked if they prefer a presidential candidate with solid experience or one whose values and views they support, two-thirds picked the latter. While those preferring experience overwhelmingly back McCain, people opting for a contender’s values say they’ll back Obama over McCain, 56 percent to 38 percent.
    Seven in 10 said Palin made the right decision in becoming McCain’s running mate, despite the demands of a family whose five children include a pregnant, unmarried teenage daughter and an infant with Down syndrome. Men were slightly likelier than women to back her choice, and even Obama supporters were split closely over whether she did the proper thing.
    Considering that blacks make up only 13% of the US population and a large % of that is kids under the age of 18 and republican blacks…what’s left? Numbers don’t lie. The media can continue to pad and lie all they want. Intelligent people would not vote for a man that knows nothing..and will do nothing but raise taxes and destroy this country. How he even got elected is a total mystery.

  275. GENO-cydal 88 said,

    on September 13th, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    Every American women who is a registered voter regardless of your political affliations, should read this:

    “RAPE VICTIMS PAID FOR THEIR OWN RAPE EXAMS UNDER PALIN”
    http://www.azcentral.com/news/.....11-on.html

    Women in Alaska under Sarah Palin had to pay for their own rape exams, rape kits, and rape investigations et al. Only to further risking the lives of women in Alaska with such policies that does not protect you as women.

    Is this the kind of person you want as your V.P? Or even your next commander in chief, lets say, if “Old Man” McCain were to ever croak while in office along the way?

    Certainly not. I’m pretty sure women want rights and control over their own choices and under Sarah Palin, its basically retroactively to lead you back to pre-women`s rights era.

    Its a simple as that.

  276. GENO-cydal 88 said,

    on September 14th, 2008 at 10:08 am

    American women have got to look beyond the notion of Sarah Palin`s “soccermom” title. Yeah, she’s a mom but so what, so too is Hillary Clinton. And speaking of Hillary, she has stayed true to her positions than Sarah Palin ever did. Well at least Hillary Clinton is more honest and straightforward than Palin.
    What the point I’m trying to make is that the rights for American women is at stake under Sarah Palin. To have her in the office is like a throwback to the days before the women`s rights era. Where choice regarding your own health and wellbeing is non-existent.

    Sarah Palin is nothing more than a religious radical, and what’s the worst thing that can happen, is that Church and State won’t be separated. Her religious beliefs is her political policies. She’s dangerous to elements of Freedom concerning women.

    Not only is she dangerous, but she is a hypocrite that many pundants keep saying. She isn’t honest about her days as a Mayor and Govenor of Alaska. Which is rife with malfeasance and corruption but only with a different face.

    So look beyond the “soccer mom” title and see her for who she really is, not for what she is.

  277. JD said,

    on September 15th, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    Yes America has gone crazy over its new superstar celebrity. You know its sad to see what this country is becoming and I should have known we were screwed when superslut Paris Hilton ran her tv spots. Did that make anyone else want to vomit? But now the true Americans with small town values have a voice in Sarah Palin who has vast foreign policy experience “she lives close to Russia”,stands for what is right when dealing with big bad government “yes show us the money for the bridge”, “okay your right maybe we won’t build the bridge but I think we should keep the 200 million and use it for stuff in Alaska”.
    The wolves of Alaska are stealing food from the mouths of Alaskan children, when the wolves kill our moose for survival we lose money from the mighty hunter who kills for sport. Lets us use airplanes to shoot the wolves that are stealing our moose and caribou. Yes and because of Gods will we shall have our pipeline, we shall have drilling, we shall defeat the wolves, we shall keep the 200 million, I’m sure that will come in handy and oh by the by how do I go about removing some books from the library that I don’t think are appropriate? Yes you have to love McCains choice for VP she has stolen the spotlight from John and the hearts of Americans who long for a women, well any women to be VP. And now true Americans we must boycott Oprah for she has refused to give our superstar Sarah an interview, I know Oprah is standing firm on what she believes but it is not right for her to stand up for what she believes in. She must make an exception for Sarah, we must force Oprah to do what we want, its the American way. Since we live in a country in which the majority of “Americans” care more about American Idol than the future of our country I for one am not surprised in what is going on at all. It times like these I have to wonder if the rest of the world see’s us for what we really are.

  278. James Anderson said,

    on September 16th, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    The people on this web page seem to assume that all white supremacist are dumb, uneducated morons. I understand your position on most neo-Nazi’s and the KKK. Those people are morons who rely on stereotypes and pseudo-history and pseudo-science to prop up ideas which can barely be called adult. However not all white supremacist are moron’s that need psychiatric help. You liberals seem to me to be just as elitist in the way you stare down on anybody whose opinion doesn’t fit in with the main stream. I am a racist who is currently attending university where I intend to complete a degree in psychology. I don’t listen to death metal music, drink or smoke and I have never been to a loud party. I prefer to stick to my small tight knit group of friends and I look back nostalgically not to the days of the National Socialist third Reich but to the days of Victorian Britain and the British Raj. I have a full head of hair, no piercing’s and certainly no tattoos. The reason I am pointing all this out is because I don’t meet the stereotypes of what a racist should ‘look like’. People are usually extremely surprised when they start talking about politics, which usually leads back to something to do with race or immigration, and I tell them calmly that I am a racist. At first they laugh pointing out that I am too normal to be a racist. For some reason people seem to assume because I am a racist I cant be top of my class, nice, casual and generally normal. My main point here is that all racist don’t necessarily fit the stereotypes laid out by this web page.

  279. peace&love said,

    on September 18th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    im christian but to all white supremesist out there i hope every one of u spends eternity in hell God created us all equal he loves us all equally no one is better than any one if isaid im praying for u id be lying so just go to hell u racist bastards and leave real people alone

  280. TopNotch said,

    on September 19th, 2008 at 11:30 am

    Well written JiggabooBoi!! Bravo! ( I also see the pun intended by your pseudonym)

    And to James Anderson….even SATAN himself can appear as an angel of light. So don’t for one moment think your attempts to fit into the norm of society and not be labeled as a clear outcast-punk-racist won’t go undetected. That’s the beauty of having the TRUE fruit of God’s Holy spirit within a person…DISCERNMENT sniffs you FAKERS out every time. So that the racist in you won’t further cancer what lil remaining heart and soul you have left…I send up a prayer for you. May God have mercy on you and break up all that well-composed UGLINESS you seem proud to display (or hide).

    Lastly to all posters who regard Senator Obama as “saviour” or claim unjustly that Americans are only voting for him just because he’s Black/Bi-racial is ridiculous. This nation has had hundreds of years of the same old-same old WASP error in place of high authority. So, Americans just want a chance to select the candidate they feel will best represent the country and also bring about change. Out with the old…in with the new. The next president has one heck of a clean-up job to attempt and he will inherit the sins of BUSH’s past.unfortunately.

  281. la verdad said,

    on September 25th, 2008 at 11:56 am

    i really think that we should just leave them alone……there not gonna change for years we’ve been telling them about there selves and as u can see it dosen’t work . so why waste breath… Look at it as them giving us a show …they think whiites are gonna come together and start a race war let them think wat they want …but us as mature people and people with real lives know whats gonna happen no need to say just sit back and laugh lol Obama is the answer we all know it no matter wats ur political out look so give up tryin to make other people who you know isnt gonna listen see that. work on making the real people stronger and help Obama and this country cause we really need it.. and Sarah P. haha joke i forgot Alaska was even apart of the united states lol lol lets see her walk threw the streets of Compton ,Newark ,Camden or N.Y anywhere and say she can take over a whole contry when /if she gets out lol so just have a good day two all God bless
    <333333333

  282. Nelly said,

    on September 28th, 2008 at 10:45 am

    I’m as white as the sheets these idiots wear, and I’m proud to be white, but I wouldn’t care if I was Mexican, black, or Japanese, I’d still be a human. My first name pretty much tells you how diverse this country really is.
    It’s not 1798 anymore, it’s 2008. No one person or race, or religion is any better than another, but people like these white supremists are just ignorant to things happening outside of their family orgies.
    Outside of Kentucky, there is a whole world of various types of people, including women, who 70 years ago, weren’t considered equal either. But without my women, I’d be a supremist playing with myself, and coming up with reasons to hate others for my rosy palms !!!

    What a bunch of ignorant David Duke (white dinosaur)wanna be’s. Think and learn for yourselves. Your parents (who are siblings) aren’t the only teachers/mentors you should listen to, and there are books out there to better educate you on history, and the world we live in today.

    Get a cause !!!

  283. Rich said,

    on September 29th, 2008 at 6:44 am

    I ‘m an ex Marine who fought in two wars as a Captain andI saw so many of my men get their heads blown right off their bodies. I’m talking Iwo Jima here where so many of my men were black and who gave their lives so you white assholes could live to go on with your moronic black bashing. Blacks are born black hust as us whites were born white. Blacks were made by God the same as whites, Asians and all the other colors and races and creeds. God people are good people and bad people are bad people period. You had nothing to do with the color you were born with so you have nothing to be proud of. Live and let live for God’s sake. A white car doesn’t run better than a black one Racists and anti semites are low lifes. we’re Americans, all of us. Dwell on this.

  284. ISupportOBAMA!!!! said,

    on September 30th, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    wow….this really affects me, I don’t understand how people can HATE another race simply because they don’t look like them. It really breaks my heart that some of God’s children could be so ridicously insane and stupid. I am an African American Roman Catholic who supports the wonderful Barak Obama and I can say this with every ounce of my being and existence: I hope all of you white surpremists will be removed from the earth, will rot eternely in Hell and will be burned alive, screaming in pain for mercy. I hope that God does not forgive you, because what you stand for is unforgivable. I hope God does not have Mercy on your soul-ever. You and your ancestors have tortured too many people over the years and now you will get what is coming to you. I do not wish you a well-I wish you unsettling pain, misery and absolutely no mery or sympathy. Suffer—like you’ve made the people that you’ve hurt and killed suffer for all eternity. That’s all.

  285. mary beaulieu said,

    on October 1st, 2008 at 9:10 am

    In response to ISupportOBAMA,

    I too, am a catholic, maybe have some jewish in me. I’m trying to trace back my geneology. I totally support Obama, for I truly believe he is the one that can lead this country and world in the right direction. Like you, I despise white supremesists. But, being of faith,little at that, I sincerely hope that these people learn to love and not hate. They are hurting all of us, not just black white, latino, jews, etc. But most of all, they are hurting themselves and their families. What gets me most is that they hide behind religion. They need to read the gospels over and over again.
    And, being born in the middle east, what color do you think Jesus really was? He was dark brown, with very curly hair, and probably a large nose.

  286. Bang, Bang said,

    on October 7th, 2008 at 9:28 pm

    To tell the truth, I don’t know whether to support Obama or Mccain, and I am as Black as I don’t know what. Really, they both have some ify ify type responses to certain questions. This makes me really wonder about both of them. People have to realize whether they believe it or not that the world is in fact coming to and end. When and how is a good question, but until then, doesn’t matter who is or who does what, things won’t get any better.

  287. YouAreWrong said,

    on October 9th, 2008 at 10:54 am

    Unfortunately, many of you are wrong. As a person who has conducted research on the white supremacists and militia groups I am disturbed by their lack of a voice during this election season. No reports of protest rallies and no reports of a serious attempt to get their message heard by the mainstream media.

    Just as unfortunate is the fact that Obama until recently had on his website the fact that he supoorts expanding affirmative action and strengthening hate crime laws. This is seen by the white supremacists as proof that whites are being shuffled to the back of the bus and that blacks are trying to achieve domination through social engineering.

    I personally disagree with current affirmative action efforts and believe that MERIT should be the determining factor. I also disagree with hate crime laws that cannot be applied to ALL races. You don’t kill someone because you like them. Simply enforce the laws and make sure that local authorities are enforcing the law equally. We didn’t need to make new laws that suggest minorities or gays are more important and valued more than any other group.

    So, with that said, I think many of you are wrong. We very well could see a race war develop if Obama is elected. There have even been concerns voiced about blacks rioting if Obama is elected. What do you suppose white supremacists would do in that instance? And what about those who are perceived as traitors to their race?

    Please, pull your heads out of your asses and recognize that these people are a threat and quietly getting stronger and preparing for the influx that would occur if Obama is elected.

  288. De'Vyne said,

    on October 10th, 2008 at 10:06 am

    First of all, PC, I am highly disappointed in you. Let me ask you a question. What experience do you ask of Obama? The same experience that got American troops into Iraq, and are dying everyday without knowing exactly why? Or the expericence which saw the stock market crash? He is offering change. What is CHANGE? A deviation from the norm. Obama isn’t saying he has all the answers. But he is willing to work hard, and listen to those with more experience. And that is why he chose Biden. He could very well have chosen Hillary to gain more white and female voters support but he was more interested in making America work than pander to petty sentiments. Lets face it, Hillary is too good and too powerful to be confined to the shadows as VP.
    Now, to the racist comments. I love all men. Really. At death, the same worms are gonna consume all of us. They aint gonna look at whether you are black or white. Your colour aint gonna save you if the world burns today. Both black and white, jews and hispanics, christians and muslims died at the world trade center bombing. Why dont we all just quit this crap.
    John Mccain has seved his country. I respect him for that. But his negative campaigning is really making me dislike him.
    Is Palin really in the best position to lead america should McCain pass on while in office? I dont think so.
    You know, the world has moved on. Please, Lets give Obama a chance. If after 4 years, he hasn’t done a good job, feel free to vote him out.
    But dont let bigotry blind you. Vox Populi, Vox Dei ( The voice of the people is the voice of God).
    If the American people want Obama, for God’s sake, let them have him. If they want McCain, so be it. Just cast your vote and hope for the best.
    And about Ayers, PLEASE, you can’t hold a man guilty for sins commited when he was 8 (and wasn’t even related to him).
    After all, McCain dumped his sick wife and married an heiress. The Obama campaign has not brought that up to tarnish him. Obama is playing fair. McCain should too. For Posterity. Long Live America.

  289. Ced said,

    on October 10th, 2008 at 11:13 pm

    You all need to stop the hate. Let’s all love everybody undre God.

  290. Rhonda said,

    on October 11th, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Have you forgotten 911!!! The self inflicted War that did not have to happen! High gas prices! Economy is down! Foreclosures at a all time high!!! Stock market crashing! American Jobs being shipped over seas…Loans at a freeze. Soldiers continually coming home in body bags or caskets, & honored once they are dead! Families all across American are grieving tremendously!!!! The Cost of foreign oil!!! The Billions of American dollars that is being spent to fund this war!!! WE ARE IN A RESSION RIGHT NOW!!! All of this & more and Obama is not even in office yet…Do I want 4 more years of the Bush Administration or anyone like him?Heck No!!! I don’t…..God is using Obama to break down the walls/barriers of racism by encouraging us all to unit togther in the spirit of Unity/Peace in order to make the United States work efficiently, better, than it ever has before…Therefore, I am voting Democratic!!! God Bless Obama/Biden and all Americans alike!!!!

  291. Ralph said,

    on October 16th, 2008 at 6:09 am

    I really feel sorry for hate groups …I am a black american and people, its time for a change. So happens its a black man that is changing our society, “So What!!” We need a new kind of leadership,”American if we are going to progress then this type of change is needed.

  292. White Man for Change said,

    on October 19th, 2008 at 12:51 am

    This election is not about the color of our skin, it is about the future of our country. Let the race wars be fought by the troubled souls who are disconnected from the realities that exist for all Americans. If they would like to challenge the power and authority of our Union, then let them! We will rise above their hate and cast our votes. Let them challenge our ethic! We will rise above their hate and remain united. Let them challenge our freedom! We will rise above their hate and prosper in a free society. Americans must never allow the politics of fear to trample on our liberty. It is a sad day when we shutter at the predictions of those who violate our creed.


  293. on October 20th, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    YouAreWrong said: Just Responding to the Un-Educated Direlects that assume they know what its like to be black. For me; I come from a mixed lineage! My Grandmothers Mom was Irish settled here in North Carolina met and fell in love with a Educated Blackman he was a blacksmith! My fathers mother was German and His father was black. So I am of mixed heritage. However, My birth certificate says Black Woman; That is all I know and I am proud of it. Going tic for tac is pointless see because you arent talking to a person anymore they lack any self consciousness; Its like looking into someone’s eyes and not seeing life behind those eyes. They are dead because they hate so much. I am also a poet and I have written many political poems in regards to race relations. I mean I could spew hatred but why??People are all the same maybe for the fact that we are different races, sex, colors, some are short, some are tall and different variances of similarities. I just cant believe that people are still ignorant, They say “Ignorance is Bliss;” I ask u this is it really?

    I am awaiting any comments/slurs/hate mail u may bring, I shall not be moved in my thoughts and thought process. God Bless Everyone and Make the right choice on November 4th; Regardless of Race!!!


  294. on October 20th, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    Oh one more for the road..I must say this and I have said it before Mccain is a man that lacks true character. This debauchery he has carried on is ridiculous. He doesnt stand a chance for that matter! He keeps saying “He doesnt understand”!!! Well That “Him” has a name and Its Mr. Barack Obama to you. Mccain is very very afraid of OBAMA. He didnt prepare himself for speech number 1, Speech number 2 was no better than the first and the rest have been him attempting to disregard anything that Obama has said and make it comedy. He is not a man of character with his nervous twitch. He cannot be trusted. Believe that!!! If he becomes president I am leaving this country!! Intelligent People in general make white supremacist Angry, But an Intelligent Black Man/Woman just makes their statements about us Null and void. There are bad people every where, no matter the race but when u have a group of people who have a 500 yr stretch on “People of Color” It is not easy to catch up. As I see it, Lets make the circle of change even and we can see where it takes us from there!

    Please feel free to respond. I love a healthy debate. By the way I am a successful business owner one who employs people of every race and also people who deserve a second chance..even u Supremacists….LOL

  295. THE TRUTH said,

    on October 21st, 2008 at 9:46 am

    Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.

    And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

    I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.”

    I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

    I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

    I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

    I have a dream today!

    I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of “interposition” and “nullification” — one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

    I have a dream today!

    I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; “and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together.”²

    This is our hope, and this is the faith that I go back to the South with. WE WILL OVERCOME

  296. THE TRUTH said,

    on October 21st, 2008 at 9:47 am

    Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.

    And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

    I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.”

    I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

    I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

    I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

    I have a dream today!

    I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of “interposition” and “nullification” — one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

    I have a dream today!

    I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; “and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together.”²

    This is our hope, and this is the faith that I go back to the South with.MOUNTAINS WILL CRUMBLE UPON THE RACIST SYNCOPES

  297. Donny Phantom said,

    on October 22nd, 2008 at 12:25 am

    This sounds crazy but I can see the rationale behind the thoughts. An Obama Administration is inheriting a major crisis, but Obama himself is going to make it even worse. The Bush Admin didn’t create the current crisis, they just didn’t do anything to stop what Bill Clinton and the Democrats put into play in 1998 and 99. This whole Housing thing started with the Democrats and now with an Obama Administration and a Democratic Majority, Obama and the Democrats are going to destroy this country and they will be the blame. As for political gain, the Republicans will reap the benefits and oust Obama in 2012. In the words of Biden…Mark these words ! LOL

  298. Jay said,

    on October 22nd, 2008 at 2:36 am

    Hate Watch?

    It is true and evidenced by those responding here, that this site is being watched by both black (and all the in betweens)and white haters.

    Obama is scary not because he is black, but because his idealism is twisted by socialist (Hitler was a socialist) philosophy.

    Any person who reads white supremacist sites and worries about their dying viewpoints cannot be taken seriously.

    I honestly couldn’t care less about Louis Farakhan or these KKK idiots. Obama is just lacks experience and will be another Carter Administration. Besides, anyone Hamas supports I find plain out anti-American.

    Now the lunatics, (you call them the right, which makes you a bigger lunatic. Abe Lincoln was to the right, he started the civil rights movement.) who are beyond any political direction, are supporting Obama for illicit reasoning. No big surprise there eh, they will have to find some peace with it and this is how they get some sleep at night.

    The population of America has risen above that intellectual mishap. Black’s are human too and those that grind their teeth at the thought of a black man leading us are simply mad at everything anyways. (believe me, I went to school with KKK members, they bullied us white kids too. They are bullies, its what they do)

    Everyone knows tha Obama will be the next President and we all must accept it and be loyal to our President. There will be no happiness for anyone if America fails. Our enemies won’t care if you liked or hated him.

    To some, their hate is more important than their freedom and ability to feed your loved ones. *shrug* Noone can reason with that kind of mentality.

    What I worry about is the fabric of our Democracy. Skin color is just another distraction away from what is really important. Does Obama share anything with the founding fathers?

  299. Shannon said,

    on October 22nd, 2008 at 5:23 am

    What white person is supreme anyway? Is this a drinking game? The Neocons are in McCain’s camp; he’s the one spouting 18th century bullyisms and ignoring the fact that the world got pretty small and we’re not the biggest players. Bunch of meatheads

  300. JD Hone said,

    on October 22nd, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    To Donny Phantom and Jay, by the way Jay maybe you should go for a more hollywood name like the Phantom. LOL First off Mr Phantom you are whats wrong with this country in the first place, you seem to take pride in a crisis and would rather find joy in failure and if this country doesn’t drastically change its ways we may never see a 2012. The lack of vision by politicians in this country for the past 30 years is what has brought us to our knees. Greed, selfishness, lack of vision and stupidity from everyone in this country has made us what we are today.
    When we live in a country in which the majority of the people care more about tv shows than the future of our children, well we deserve everything thats happening to us.
    This government turned its back on the American people for years in this country, I guess they forgot that they work for “we the people” and we have been too lazy and stupid to even care. But now when we are near rock bottom the American people think they have a right to complain and all I have to say to that is “why didn’t you care for you’re country years ago?” Now Jay you bring up some good points but in a condecending way, maybe I’m reading it wrong and if I am then I apologize. You’re third to the last paragraph says it all really, without the support of the American people Obama will be just a guy in the whitehouse for everyone to blame their troubles on. I often wonder when the American people lost pride in themselves and in this country. If I was a betting man and I really don’t like to say this but I’d have to say that after the election the majority of the American people will get back to business as usual, those that vote will keep voting for their corrupt do nothing politicians on both sides instead of demanding more from their government. And of course the corruption on wall street will continue as the majority of the American people will just sit on their fat asses and complain about these hard times. We the people need to take a long hard look at ourselves, stop playing the blame game, stop living in fear and become more involved with OUR government.
    I guess I sound a little negative but who in the hell wouldn’t be in the times we are living in now, Obama could be one of the greatest presidents in history, I’m sure he will do everything he can to help the folks in this country but he can’t make a difference unless he is accepted and supported by the American people. Everyone in this country likes to bash this government without realizing one important fact and that is we are the ones who have given them jobs and that they work for us. Sorry for the long post, I need to end my little rant as is, there is a special coming on tv about Simons Cowells pay check that I really need to watch, I sure hope Paula Abdul doesn’t quit because of it, I hear shes really pissed.

  301. Joe said,

    on October 22nd, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    To Mary:
    If you think George Bush will ever be at the Hague you’re a complete and utter fool.
    To The_X_ception:
    Sorry, your rant has no basis in reality. White people as a group have higher IQ’s than blacks and latinos.
    Why do you think those minorities need all the special help and quotas?
    They can’t make it on their own merit.

    Western civilization as defined by white Europeans is the best ever seen.

    If you idiot Obama supporters are successful in electing this communist (who will only get there through voter fraud via ACORN), you will be destroying the pedestal upon which you stand.

    I suppose you’ll love it when this country is a hell-hole like the rest of the world that is not dominated by white Europeans.

    Good luck fools!

  302. Lekarshi said,

    on October 23rd, 2008 at 4:23 am

    Such thoughts have passed many minds in the past. For example in India, a Brahmin prime minister was thought to be a messiah for the Hindus. Not once has that worked. Mankind has passed that phase when drivel like the above could motivate people to hate other races or religions. But one thing remains to be seen as to how an economically weaker America gets through this lean phase. Most humanly perceived differences are not seen until such a time when there is a contention for resources. Such a time has certainly begun in the US. With no caretaker for the economy and foreign policy taking a front seat there is more problems plaguing the nation. Whether race wars will be one of them is waiting to be seen.

  303. Joe said,

    on October 23rd, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    We welcome a race war.
    There could be nothing better for America’s future at this point.
    Obama being elected through voter fraud will show white America that drastic, violent action is required to wrest back control of OUR nation.
    They will have a constant reminder whenever they see his face.
    We are tired of supporting the worthless races.

  304. JD Hone said,

    on October 23rd, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    Lekarshi, There is no doubt that Obama will face great challenges if he wins this election, which I hope he does, he has my vote. And I have no doubt that he will “pal around” with some damn good people who will help him repair this broken country but he will not be able to help the American people if we are not willing to help ourselves, its pretty simple really this needs to be a team effort. As for the “race war” you speak of, I don’t think that will happen, I believe the majority of the American people have enough respect for eachother to never let that happen.

    To Joe: Well what can I say, I am an “idiot” Obama supporter as you call us but I’d have to say the word “idiot” seems to be a more appropriate label for you. My race consists of “white european” which you make out to be the master race but I’m also Bannock Shoshoni, thats “Native American” Joe and even though I have a tiny bit more European blood than Shoshoni I have more pride in my native American roots. You bring up high IQ’s as if to announce that “whites” are supreme while at the same time you prove to the world the exact opposite with what you write. So whats you’re IQ Joe? You are what is wrong with this country a “hater” and the argument that folks like you bring forth is frankly getting a little old. I see you ended you’re brilliant post to Mary by wishing us luck, “good luck fools” Does that mean if Obama wins you’re moving out of America? If you plan on leaving take the rest of the haters with you please and those of us who will stay behind won’t need luck, we will just work TOGETHER to help make this country better for every American not just the high IQ white folks. Oh and Joe, if you are leaving I would be willing to donate a little cash to help you get an early start.

  305. JD Hone said,

    on October 23rd, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    Wow Joe I didn’t think it was possible but you’re last post proves you have a lower IQ than I thought. Good job!!!!
    “Worthless races, race war, violent action” very impressive.
    “Control of our nation?” Keep on posting Joe.

    Good luck in you’re race war fool

  306. lachelle said,

    on October 23rd, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    I thinks it’s so sad that white people are so scared. Im a black woman, professional, and dedicated to stop the ignorance of websites like these.

    To tell you the truth, this country hasn’t been for whites for a long time, you are no longer the majority. Im sorry to break the news flash to you, but the definition of a “nigger” is in laymen terms ignorance.

    So all you niggers who think that you will once keep blacks, latinos, asians, etc in fear you no longer have that power. You will never have that power ever again, we as a nation of mixed races are taking our land back. If it wasn’t for our hands that invented, made and sowed into the land that you live on, you would have nothing.

  307. Joe said,

    on October 23rd, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    Think what you will.
    Racial realities can not be denied.
    Wishing the races were equal does not make it so.
    (Sheesh, just look at Africa and Latin America for an example of what these people create.)
    You will regret it when this country is reduced to a third world cesspool.
    But when you finally realize you were wrong, it will be a long bloody battle uphill.

    No, I won’t be leaving.
    I will be fighting it out.
    I spent years in the desert fighting for this country.
    I won’t simply relinquish it to the likes of you.

  308. Jay said,

    on October 23rd, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    JD,

    My name will remain the same. I like to be me wherever I am. I have no reason to hide.

    I wasn’t intending to come off condescending. Facts are facts. People can run around screaming their heads off and it will do nothing to change reality.

    Supremacists are cowards and Obama is a socialist.

    Read Jean-Francois Revel and find out what the left is doing these days in America. America is not an original experiment.

    Black and White has little to do with the division of our ‘common’ bond (though it doesn’t help the matter). It is idealism vs. realism that keeps ripping away at the Nation’s fabric.

    And again, to worry about the mentality of a supremacist is not very helpful to the overall situation. They are what they are and nothing will ever drag them away from their divergent intellect.

    Obama should be judged on his ideas, not upon others ideas about him. I think we have enough now to decide that Obama is not about what he so eloquently suggests he is about. That, his socialist agenda is to fund such projects as ACORN upon the backs of the successful (his definition of success is very pointed).

    ACORN isn’t in place to help America, it is in place to help ACORN’s political agenda and the politicians who support it.

    The comments here just show that there are no innocent players when it comes to race.

    What are you all? Black, White? In between? Or American?

    If any of you thought of your race before you thought of your country, you are just as sick as these idiots commenting with racist rants.

    A race war would be quelled immediately and without mercy. All sides would be hurt dramatically. Your children would suffer immensely. So why wish it upon yourselves?

    Joe? Did a black guy steal your Twinky in kindergarten? I am sure he is sorry by now.

    Lachelle? How many scared white people do you even know? Have you not seen Obama’s team? It is mainly these white people you speak of. (seriously, to even suggest that there is a group, all inclusive of white people, trembling in their boots at the thought of a black president, is racist. Get out more. Yes, home is where the heart is, but the body can carry you to places where you can receive experience and education.)

    Racism occurs from all sides and both are just as mentally divergent.

  309. JD Hone said,

    on October 23rd, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Joe, you wouldn’t happen to be Joe the plumber would you?
    lol Just curious.
    I’l give you my thoughts on you’re above post if you don’t mind and I will be civil. Here are you’re points.

    “wishing the races were equal does not make it so”
    My response is I don’t wish the races were equal I know all races are equal. We all belong to one race and that is the human race.

    “you will regret it when this country IS reduced is to a third world cesspool”
    Tell me what its like to live with such hatred? Too much hate is bad for the soul and if you really can predict the future please give me a heads up on the next winning powerball numbers, after I win I will split the money with you.

    “I will be fighting it out”
    Well Joe I’m not sure who you will be fighting against, everyone who isn’t white I guess, damn Joe thats alot of enemies to go up against. Remember The Little Big Horn?
    Old Custer didn’t stand much of a chance.

    “I spent years in the desert fighting for this country”
    If you have served in the military and fought for this country then I say thank you. So how did you deal with serving among other races in the military? Did you serve in an elite all white unit?

    “I won’t simply relinquish it to the likes of you”
    Now this statement of yours bothers me the most because it seems like your calling me out. First of all I think that is exactly what my great grandfather must have said when the American soldiers forced him to live on the brand new shiny indian reservation back in the 1800’s. So what do you mean by “the likes of you?” I guess you believe I’m a lower form of life than you. Tell me is it because of my Native American roots? Enjoy you’re hate filled paraniod life Joe, maybe you and those who think like you could pitch in enough cash to buy up a few thousand acres and build a compound to keep out those you hate. Maybe you will start a new trend, whites only compounds, lets see whats the word I’m looking for, wait a sec I’ll think of it, aha, I got it, how about Whites only reservations. Now that would be the kind of change I would believe in.

  310. Joe said,

    on October 24th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    Funny you should say this:
    “So how did you deal with serving among other races in the military? Did you serve in an elite all white unit?”

    Actually, the units I served in were extremely small and, yes, were all white. Most of them were 25 soldiers or less. 4 teams of 5 and a varying number of command personnel, never more than 5.
    I was an explosive ordnance technician, MOS 55D serving in explosive ordnance disposal units.
    My job in the first desert war was to safely dispose of everything from unexploded 2000 lb bombs to tiny tor-popper mines. (We are the only armed force EVER that actually goes in and cleans up our duds.)
    The reason those units are all white is because the training regimen for that position is academically, physically and mentally grueling that lasts well over 13 months and costs millions of dollars.
    At 55D school most minority apps washed out in a matter of weeks and the rest didn’t make it much further. (14 black or other in my class of about 35.)
    Guess what, not even ONE made it to the midpoint.
    It is a tough school with no hand-holding, survival of the fittest with no breaks and no extra points for affirmative action.
    It is also all on an individual basis, no “group” projects, you pass or fail entirely on your own merits.
    The final graduation roll was 9, and yes all lily-white.

    “Joe, maybe you and those who think like you could pitch in enough cash to buy up a few thousand acres and build a compound to keep out those you hate.”

    I have taken care of this long ago, although I always thirst for more land, it seems there is never enough as a buffer.
    I inherited just over 3,000 acres that took my father his entire life to accumulate and have expanded that to just under 7,000.
    I raise cattle for beef and alpacas for wool sales.
    Depending on what state you live in you may have purchased or eaten my beef. All of my prime goes to restaurants. Choice to supermarkets and below to auction or local sales.
    The only problem is you can never have enough land to keep out our socialist government. We are no longer a free republic.

    I believe in a Whites only reservation too, all 50 states.

  311. Joe said,

    on October 24th, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    It is also disgusting that SPLC shows the link to this page as “President Obama.”

    Last I checked the election hasn’t been held yet.

    Hopefully the country will come to its senses and not elect this communist, but probably not, the public schools have brainwashed enough voters now that they do not question anything but how many freebies they’re going to get.

  312. JD Hone said,

    on October 24th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    Good to hear from you again Joe, I thought I was adding a little humor by saying “whites only reservations” without knowing you have already started them up…lol
    Congratulations on being a member of an elite all white unit.
    Its funny that you bring up ranching Joe, I was born and raised in Wyoming and the way it works out here is if you have a few head of cows or sheep you can become a millionaire off of Government Subsidies, I guess you can call it welfare for folks that don’t need it. If a deer or elk takes a bite of hay these ranchers file damage claims with the state and seek usually triple their loss and of course they are cut a check. If a coyote grabs a lamb on public ground then the sportsman pick up the tab for the loss. One old boy who has overgrazed his leases for years and years made a little over half a million in two years from government handouts. Its a damn shame really most of the habitat from overgrazing is beyond repair. Many of todays ranchers cry poverty while riding the range in 45 thousand dollar pick up trucks, my how times have changed. You would think that these folks would pay a cowboy a few bucks a day to keep the cows moving, at least make an attempt to prevent the decimation of habitat but their broke, they can’t afford to lose a few extra hundred a month.
    Point is these are all pure bread white folks making bank from our government, welfare for the rich is all government subsidies amount to out here. I guess folks just have to know how to play the game and have friends in high places.
    Oh and Joe if you really believe that Obama is a communist then I guess you must have solid evidence to back up you’re claim. I bet its as solid as the evidence that led us into Iraq. Its been good shootin the s*it with you Joe, Live and let live is my motto. This is a pretty good country we live in and imagine how much better it could be if everyone of us, (that means all races) would work together and face these problems as one nation. If McCain/Palin win I will be the first to sell my entire collection of Sarah Palin action figures on E-Bay and haul ass to Mexico.

  313. Jay said,

    on October 24th, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    Joe,

    The more you speak like this, the more Government funding groups like the SPLC, get.

    You help them by spewing the bile you spew.

    I am part Native American but my last name is very English. Really, in all honesty, my rights to spew this bile outweighs your own. My intellect prevents such a tragedy.

    Color is just color. Are their ‘niggers’? Yes, in every race that ever shot out of their mother’s cursed hindquarters.

    You are your own worst enemy, Joe. Obama is part white and raised totally white. This makes him what to you? Non-human?

    Seriously, take a step back and look at what you have accepted as an education. You are limiting yourself to a very narrow sense of the world.

  314. GENO-Columbucide1492 said,

    on October 25th, 2008 at 11:31 am

    There are truly sick and twisted folks working on the McCain`s volunteer team. According to the http://www.truecrimereports.com where I first read about it. A volunteer named Ashley Todd who flatly and publicity lied about making up some rather sick fantasy story involving an Obama supporter who purportly “carved a *B* on her face.” Was all a given hoax. Ashly Todd`s story was aired all over the NSM such as HLN, FOXNews, MSNBC et cetera. Where she made a confession that she lied about carving a B on her pink huey cheek. She is current being charge with false reporting as well as inciting racism by claiming a “big black man did it”.
    She was wrong.
    Now judging by the appoximity of this story. I think she’s entitled to a mental institution.

    Well, good job McCain supporters.. You’ve shown everyone what a buncha whackos you really are. Which is synonmous with wing-nuts.

    Keep it up.

  315. k.s said,

    on October 25th, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    Obama 08 said,

    on June 12th, 2008 at 9:17 am

    “You ignorant white people are so sad. I really feel sorry for you.”

    So…I am apparently an ignorant white person. When I actually began reading this thread my intent was to have an intelligent debate over this subject, until I read this persons comment. What makes white people ignorant? Because we are speaking our mind? That is what our country was built off of or at least vaguely so…the ability to speak freely without prosecution of religous beliefs (which in this case involves white supremacist’s) is what we stand for. Now Im not racist, but I am intelligent enough to stand up for my self and my race. I have never spit a racial slur at anyone and have never verbally hurt anyone with such comments. I will say however, I get very annoyed when blacks call white people crackers and honky’s in a deliberate and hurtful way. I get annoyed when blacks talk to me as if I have had a part in their prosecutions and turmoils damn near 200 years ago. I hate when blacks say THEIR CHILDREN do not have the same oppurtunities as whites….funny….my parents are military and I go to a school with many black students with a parent in the military. In fact one of these black students has a parent making in the range of 70k a year getting everything he wants with his parents money…his dad is always taking him out to do things and same with his mother. This same kid and the majority of others at my school find it necessary to be apart of a local gang known as the B.A.B as well as the Bloods. I on the otherhand live in a household where my family makes half of what his father makes and I am recieving a BA. in Criminal Justice and pursuing an AS. in foreign affairs as well. White people are ignorant? I think not. I think white people get upset because the double standard is in excess. HERE IS THE part that drives me up the wall. Im pursuing a career in the New York State police. This is to all blacks who say they don’t have oppurtunities. Here in New York state, there is a 10 point curve for African Americans taking the NYSPD civil service exam….You know why? It’s because of African Americans in this country who file law suits on such testing organizations accusing them of tampering with scores…they should have studied harder. Like I said, I am not racist, but I do see obvious problems that do not get addressed often or even at all. Ohhhhh by the way, a recent study showed that some where in the neighborhood of 16% of the American population consists of African Americans, but African Americans make up 65% of the United states prison population. In a pre-emptive strike against the inevitable response (White cops are crooked and are racist) I think the statistics above are a bit too drastic to say that the above percentage of blacks were apprehended by crooked cops. Maybe those cops are crooked…but you have to consider the fact that those charged have to face a judge and jury of their peers, prosecution which includes witnesses, appeals, ect, ect. To say that all levels of our criminal justice system are corrupt is telling me that Blacks have to make up excuses for the crimes they commit. How many white guys apprehended by African Americans do you see running around saying that that same officer was corrupt and racist. shoot…at an internship I had with the local city police, a black man was pulled over for running a red light. This same man, had possession of a controlled substance and was fined for that reason. It was his second offense and was fined heavily (mind you he could have been arrested). You know what he said before he drive off? He said, “main, yall’ cops be racist main.” Ya, us white people are pretty dam ignorant. And you know what? I’m not an “innocent player” in the whole situation, even though I dont consider myself racist. I consider myself aware, and right now the black community is getting out of control. no one can believe I’m wrong no matter what you say. Shit, take a look at TI’s new music video. This guy has like 6 black kids no older than 10 in his video riding bikes and flipping off the camera singing about thug life and drugs. Ya, you guys are painting a great image for you kids, maybe thats part of the problem…go figure. Im just annoyed because there are always excuses. “white people are racist, there are no equal oppurtunites, everyone is out to get me, the cops are crooked, blah blah blah.” And you know what, it’s comments like the ones that person I quoted up top makes that makes good white folks like myself rant like this. And you know what? Just to stick to the topic this thread was apparently designed for…Obama will be assasinated. Look at the KKK. They have very strong beliefs and more power to them. Some would call them radicals, I call them firm believers. They believe that because America was founded and created by whites it should stay that way and they also believe that Whites are the dominant race. Now, given the above, can you honestly tell me that these folks will stand for a black man holding the highest executive position in the government and governing their laws and lives? hell no! Use some common fucking sense. A black guy recently told my buddy that Obama wouldnt be assasinated because Bush hasnt been assasinated. My buddy said, “thats because the people who hated bush were hippies and environmentalists, the people who hate Obama are Rednecks with moonshine and 12 guages.” hehe, I thought it was funny. As for the last comment, Joe, very true man. Obama is going to socialize this country and make it even easier for welfare parasites to become even more parasitic. Universal health care? ha! have fun waiting years for common surg.’s. Obamas plan is a mirror image of Canadas model. My g-rents are Canadian and my grandma had to wait 6 years for a knee surg. ya, god forbid you ailment is life threatening. YAAAAA go Obama….not! Everyone is in love with him because HES GOING TO PULL us out of IRaq…..FUNNNNY!!! he wants us out by 2010, funny thing is Bush was already in agreenment with the Iraqi government to withdrawl at that time. Looks like Obama is manipulating the peoples oppinions more so then Bush ever did. Also, people think war will end when Obama becomes president…funny thing is that fucker said a few times that he wants to take the troops in Iraq, stick them in Afghanistan and then take all incoming troops to Iraq, throw them into Pakistan, then take 4 brigades of fresh troops and send them in afghanistant…ya we have a real winner you Obama supporters. Suck up your partison pride and face the facts….Im decomcrat, the only difference is I put partisan views aside and thought about the future of our country. Also, what is really hilarious is Obams 4 yr Senate experience. You know how her got that job? He got into senate because the lawyer HE was a SECRETARY for decided to pull out and offered to finance his way into the Senate. the only reason he got any media coverage because a black man out of Chicago started a civil rights movement. The only half intelligent words that utter from his mouth are the ones given to him from his advisors….which are slim anyways. THIS man is manipulating his supporters more so then any candidate Ive ever seen. His only game plan is, “McCain voted for Bush’s policies 90% of the time,” which was actually proved to be not true by the political truth busters on CNN, who are also democrats. So, I went off on a few tangents, but that comment set me off, and I hope I entertained at least one person with my long rant.

  316. John Ashcroft said,

    on October 26th, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    Obama is Hope. McCain is Bush’s third term.

  317. JD Hone said,

    on October 26th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Let me see if I understand all the that is being written “Obama is a communist, Obama is a socialist,” Lets recap, at first he was “unpatriotic, elitist, then unamerican, then a Muslim then an Arab and of course a terrorist” Damn I wish folks would make up their minds. I do Iike you’re post Jay, interesting you say that you are “part Native American but my last name is very english” are you sure you wasn’t taking a jab at me? If you are thats pretty sharp. “Spew this bile?” Whether you are referring to Joe or myself or all who have posted, we do have the right to speak freely. I’m not offended by Joe’s posts or his beliefs I’m just curious if this “socialist government” that he speaks of has been sending him free money for his beef operation, if not he should really look into it because government subsidies out west are transforming good old boys into millionaires. I don’t see the harm in what most folks are saying on here at least the subject of race is being talked about. Theres only a few that are so full of fear and hate I don’t have a clue how they live their lives. You would think that the American people would be mature enough to finally put the subject of race behind them but I think we have a long way to go. If people can’t express the way they feel either way, good or bad, then how in the hell will we ever better ourselves or our country?

  318. Don Hughes said,

    on October 26th, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HphO3hiTBA

  319. Don Hughes said,

    on October 26th, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    Here is a prediction according to astrology. I don’t believe in it, but this was interesting in her prediction that Iran and Israel will begin a war.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HphO3hiTBA

  320. Don Hughes said,

    on October 26th, 2008 at 7:23 pm

    Ashley Todd was ONE PERSON ! NO one control the actions of ONE, but YOU OBAMA LOVERS COULD CONTROL ALL THE DAMN IDIOTS RUNNING ACORN !
    trying to steal the election for your boy ~ OBAMA

  321. Don Hughes said,

    on October 26th, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    Barack Hussein Obama is not a Black Man. He is a mixed race…half white/half black. His early influences were black radicals. His later associations are modern radicals such as Rev Wright, Bill Ayers and Father Flager. He is hiding a radical ideology and everyone will find out what that is if he gets elected and I promise you that Blacks will HATE HIS ASS as much as WHITES WILL ! MARK MY WORDS ! He will run this great country into the ground !
    But, that will actually be good for Conservative Republicans in the future if he wins, because Republicans will come to the rescue in 2012 and Obama, Hillary and the whole Democratic Party will be DEAD AND STINKING ! Then the Conservative Christian Republicans will take our country into a new era of GODLY BLISS for maybe a 1,000 years !!! LOL

  322. lachelle said,

    on October 26th, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    There is neither jew nor gentile and no gender in heaven. Colors were meant for earth and so was gender. If you people who hate so much but call yourselves religous would look at the teachings of christ, he sat and ate with people who were not of his race and died for all. Ask jesus into your life and stop judging and hating people based on their color, stop the stereotypes!

    Black people and all colors who’ve been put down and have been seen like a piece of dog crap on these people’s shoe will no longer accept this behavior. All the glory and honor belongs to God because we are no longer what these white, ignorant people say. Down with the statistics and up with the first black president who’s qualified and won’t break under pressure. Praise God because in my short 24 years God has shown us as blacks that we are heading in the right direction and we have favor no matter who tries to shut the door! Get your life right before you die and repent

  323. j.c said,

    on October 27th, 2008 at 7:37 am

    Its sad to see we are still stuck on color instead of a persons personality and thoughts,obama is the beter choice out of the two,he is gonna win and minorities will finally get a chance to voice our oppinoins and get things done without having to destroy lives,better yet destroy other countrys,obama will definitly have a serious task at hand and if he pulls through for us maybe it will change the way white america looks at blacks,latinos,etc

  324. Don Hughes said,

    on October 27th, 2008 at 8:56 am

    An Obama Presidency will destroy what progress we have made in race relations in this country. First because he is not going to be a voice for the black community like blacks believe he is going to be and secondly he is going to devastate our nation with a democratic congress who are going to kick us while we are down and tax tax tax all of us. On top of all of this, our country will be less safe globally under an Obama Presidency. Let’s just keep praying that a true American Hero gets in the White House, John Sidney McCain !

  325. Don Hughes said,

    on October 27th, 2008 at 9:02 am

    LEAVE JESUS OUT OF YOUR RACIAL BATTLES ! THIS IS NOT ABOUT BARACK OBAMA BEING BLACK. THIS IS ABOUT NOT BEING QUALIFIED TO RUN THIS NATION WITH HIS RADICAL, NAIVE AND SOCIALIST VIEWS !

  326. Bill Spoyer said,

    on October 27th, 2008 at 11:02 am

    Why do we have Affirmitive Action? Usually the Best man doesnt get the Job. Hence Obama, the slumlord at best.

  327. joe said,

    on October 27th, 2008 at 11:41 am

    To JD Hone:

    No, I receive not a penny in any federal or state subsidy or what-not giveaway.
    I ranch on my own land, purchased with my own money and have never applied for or received any of these monies you speak about.
    I will be a millionaire soon regardless, probably next year or year after I will officially qualify for that title.
    However that is due to all the hard work and saving of my father and myself. None is owed to any government subsidy.
    We make our money the way one ought, through hard work, forethought and thrift.

    My father would roll over in his grave and curse me for eternity if he ever looked down and saw me taking a federal dime.

    And Obama is a socialist based on his writings and what he preaches. It’s not something someone just made-up.

    Geez, you people need to read his books and other writings. It is all there, nothing else required.

  328. Laid back said,

    on October 27th, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    Y’all are too worked up about whether or not Obama will be a good president and his views, writings, associations, blah, blah. When it comes down to it, the only thing a president can do unilaterally is attack only when attacked. Everything else requires House and Senate majority and nearly everything important to be done is by the leaders you don’t see everyday. The president is a political figurehead, a public “face” to a massive government machine. I know this a forum based on an odd posting but the real question is what will the dems do with a controlling majority in House, Senate, and also president?

  329. k.s said,

    on October 27th, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    Laid back said,

    on October 27th, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    Y’all are too worked up about whether or not Obama will be a good president and his views, writings, associations, blah, blah. When it comes down to it, the only thing a president can do unilaterally is attack only when attacked. Everything else requires House and Senate majority and nearly everything important to be done is by the leaders you don’t see everyday. The president is a political figurehead, a public “face” to a massive government machine. I know this a forum based on an odd posting but the real question is what will the dems do with a controlling majority in House, Senate, and also president?

    As for that response….if you didnt notice senate and house are becoming more populated with liberal democrats rather than cons. republicans. In fact, the last time I checked senate was predominately run by democrats. so lets think…..you’ve got a democratic president, democratic majority in senate, and now weve got sell out republicans in the house and it is now becoming infested with democrats…
    democrat x 3=democratic policies all the way around.

  330. JD said,

    on October 27th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    Joe, good for you, earning what you have through hard work and dedication, those values seem long gone now days and I wish you well. Mr. Hughes have you given any thought to some type of therapy?

  331. Lorie said,

    on October 27th, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    Their time is running out. Truth and justice will prevail.
    Because they cannot stop this change that is going to take place in our UNITED STATES of AMERICA they will try any tactic and opinion that may sound good to the average listener.
    Wow, how clever to say “We want him to win so there will be an uproar”. Is that like the saying “If you can’t beat um join um? Silly angry haters try love because it never fails….

  332. Lorie said,

    on October 27th, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    Sorry I forgot to mention who they are from my last comment.

    They are those who oppose justice, equality, compassion, fairness, and the fact that “All men are created equal”.

    They are those whose hate is evident even by the way they look and not just by what they say or do.

    They are those who think they are better and look down on others who do not look like themselves. Didn’t they learn that when people start thinking only of themselves that is when the real trouble starts.

    They need to face their fears because really thats all it is and it has turned into pure hatred for people they don’t even know. Hey would if a black person saved your son’s life would you want to behead him also?

    They would be happier if they stopped being so ignorant and welcomed love and justice for all people!

  333. Beeeeee said,

    on October 27th, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    I’m white and I voted early today for Barack Obama because I believe he is the best candidate. But with all the shit the next president will inherit from the previous administration, you can’t expect too much to happen too soon from either candidate. I just hope we can start getting on the right track. And if you look at other countries that are not traditional hardcore communists….. a little socialist policy can do a lot of good…people here are just so afraid of the S word…seriously…get the hell over it. A lot of European countries are slightly socialist and their people have a lot better lives than in this fucked up place where some people can’t even get surgery without having to fork out thousands of dollars in co-payments and losing their job for taking too much time off…..
    OBAMA 08

  334. Melissa said,

    on October 28th, 2008 at 9:26 am

    I do not understand how these people can have so much hate in their hearts. What would be a perfect world for you? Only white people? IS this what your God teaches? Do you think your life means more than those of different races? You live, love, and die just the same as the rest of us. Your race has tried to do away with mine. And yet I hope for change. OBAMA 2008

  335. Don Hughes said,

    on October 28th, 2008 at 9:40 am

    NEXT OBAMA, PELOSI AND FRANK WILL BE HAVING US TURN IN OUR GUNS AND OUR BIBLES !!!

  336. Peter Pan said,

    on October 28th, 2008 at 11:06 am

    This is so cool! Did you see those two red neck morons arrested? White supremacists… to me they look like characters of The Jerry Springer Show. All this ignorant imbecils embrace Hitler’s retarded ideas… Let me tell you, in Hitler’s world all this hillbilly scum would be SOAP. Go to the public library and read some books.

  337. Joe said,

    on October 28th, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    To JD:
    Thanks!
    I wish you well also.
    The funny thing is in my younger years when I was quite foolish there was a period where I was homeless and living out of a Jeep wrangler with not 2 nickels to rub together.
    I lived in it for 2 years and got a job and started to move up.
    My father had written me out of his will because he felt I would just fritter away what he had built.
    It was lucky that I decided to turn my life around long before he died.

    The thing is I did so with a nary a penny from tax money. I am living proof that no government help is required.

    To Peter Pan:

    YOU need to do some research. The whole soap hoax has been thouroughly discredited. The same exact scare story was used in WWI. There has never been any legitimate proof.
    There is plenty of bad to be found in WWII without making stuff up.

    Start your search here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.....an_corpses

  338. Praying for the fools said,

    on October 28th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    I pray for all of you, you are sick. I went to vote today and I voted for Barack, he is clearly the better man for the job. If you listen to the issues and look behind the skin color you will see this. I will pray that you ignorance will turn to intelligence, I pray that you will become saved and love your brethern. We are all of one. One Nation. I love you even if you can not love your self.

  339. Donnyphant said,

    on October 28th, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    If you voted for Barack Obama my brethen, You are the one who needs prayer. If you can’t see past his color and know that his agenda is not one of righteousness for all, then you are blinded by his rhetoric. I don’t care if he was blue, he is not an honest person. He has the gift of gab and igornance is what follows his views. I question every aspect of his morals and values. I question his ties to radicals such as Rev Wright and the Black Liberation Theroies he teaches. I question his ties to the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers. I question every single word that comes out of his flowery speeches! This is a man regardless of his skin color, who cannot be trusted. If he does make it into the White House, which I pray to God he doesn’t….we will find out, that is definite, but it will be too late to save ourselves then.
    We have become a nation of the blind leading the blind !
    WAKE UP AMERICA !!!

  340. Don Carlos Perez said,

    on October 28th, 2008 at 10:08 pm

    If you haven’t figured out what Barack Obama’s plans are…here’s a clue. Take money from the rich white people of America and give it to the lower class, mainly black and hispanic, in the form of welfare checks. Now this sounds good to me since I’m hispanic, but I don’t want that type of government for my children in the future ! I came out of that to the U.S. where I knew that I would not penalized or robbed of what you earn by the sweat of your brow…..but you will be seeing a country devasted under an Obama Tax Plan!
    SO STOP BARACK !

  341. White Man for Change said,

    on October 28th, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    Obama transcends race! He’s the right man for the job but this election is getting ugly. I think the race wars are being fought right now! There is a lot of fear tatics being utilized right now by misinformed people. It’s getting ugly and people are scared. I’ve noticed an increase in racist jokes, more anti-muslim talk; I’ve been told Obama hates America, been acused of being a communist, and was told assasination is a beautiful thing. The people starting this are suffering fom pchycosis and the people that believe it are full of fear. As Barack Obama said tonight in VA, ” Now is the time to fight harder, conquer the fears, thats what HOPE is about!!!”

  342. Democrat said,

    on October 28th, 2008 at 10:35 pm

    Mr. Hughes,
    Where do you get this stuff from? It is rediculous conspiracies. What does a Bible have to do with a gun? You say you are conservative; Obama is probably more conservative than most republicans.

  343. Godefrieda said,

    on October 29th, 2008 at 12:21 am

    Intro: I am a direct descendant of a 1000 year old bloodline, German aristocrats, have long blond hair, am white skinned, have light blue eyes (people call my eyes very beautiful).

    Question: who are they, the supremacists and so forth? What I read on your blog, is terrifyingly scary.Why are they such racists?

    I can not vote because I am not American, but if I were, I would vote for Obama: he has so much class, intelligence, and has such a brilliant vision for the future of America and with that the world.

    I read that some skinheads had planned to kill black americans and Obama, how sick can people be? just because they are WHITE they think they can take other peoples life?

    My father recently said to me (in german, but I shall translate it here:) :

    *the less well bred, educated and cultured people are, the more likely that they shall end up being criminals or sad pests to the world. Those people never shall add something positive but shall take away all that is good, destroy the beauty of what-is and replace things with misery and fear* .

    Is that the label those white aggressors want for themselves? just being white colored but oh so terribly dumb and scary??!!!

    liebe Gruesse,

    k.

    PS I think Obama is a phenomenal choice for America and you all can be very, very proud having him next week as your President!

  344. JD said,

    on October 29th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    I see the famous Donny phant__ has returned, why did you drop the om? I’ve noticed how with the election just days away the more people like you seem to panic, why is that Mr. Phant? You say Obama “cannot be trusted” why do you say “we have become a nation of blind leading the blind?” For the past 30 years the majority of American people could care less about Politicians or what has been happening in DC and now all of a sudden this man who can’t be trusted should not or cannot be allowed to be president of this country? Our Government has been screwing the American people for years and no one gave a damn but now its Obama who can’t be trusted? Enough of the stupid rants enough of the fear and hate, its time for the people of this country to grow up. Am I the only one to see how absurd this election has been? Now Joe the plumber is standing with McCain and telling us his ideas concerning foreign relations. What a joke, grow up America the rest of the world is watching and laughing its ass off, have we lost our dignity completely? And what happened to common sense? Sarah Palin as Vice President and possible President, has any one listened to her speak? McCain has shown nothing but disrespect for Obama or am I the only one to notice his vile behavior in all three debates? In the final debate who’s head was about to fall on the floor? McCain behaved like a spoiled, pissed off 11 year old, is that who you want to lead this country? Who does the America people want to lead them into the future, cartoon charactors? Might as well I guess because this country is turning into a hell of a joke and the world is watching. The majority of American people could care less about friggin Bill Ayers and are tired of hearing it brought up over and over again. If you dig deep into the bullshit that has been going on in DC for decades I’m sure Ayers would look like a saint compared to the mountains of lies, corruption and illegal acts of our own government. Obama 08

  345. Dr. BLACK MAN said,

    on October 29th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    I am voting for McCain because he is the most “qualified”. Neither candidate can destroy the country more than it is now.

    As far as hate groups are concerned, there is white trash garbage as well as good white people. Actually in every race there is garbage and good.

    Word to the wise, I HAVE A COUSIN THAT IS BLONDE/BLUE but he is black. What is a “true” white person? Do these Aryan people conduct a family history check before allowing entrance to their group?

    TRUST ME, THERE ARE LITTLE TO NO PURE RACE MEMBERS IN THIS DAY AND AGE. Your father may NOT be the person listed on your birth certificate!!!!!

  346. Don Hughes said,

    on October 29th, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    “I’ll keep my God, my freedom, my guns, and my money, you can keep THE CHANGE.” Vote for McCain/Palin

  347. White Man for Change said,

    on October 29th, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    Dear Godefrieda,
    This is what we live with in America. I believe it is the result of our original sin, for one thing. But I think its more than that. It’s also the loss of hope in the hearts of these people that make them turn to hate to fill that void. They put that label, that your grandfather spoke of, on everyone but themselves.
    I am of Aryan blood and think Obama is the most qualified for the challenges we face; and it has nothing to do with the color of his skin, but rather his character.

  348. Jay said,

    on October 30th, 2008 at 7:05 am

    FACT: Obama is a socialist and isn’t even a black man. He was raised by a white family while his African father ran off to explore his drug habits.

    We don’t need him and I imagine this race will just prove to be the most harmful thing that ever happened to America.

    Sad situation. It isn’t about his skin color. It is about his associations and leftist socialism.

    All the late night ‘comedy’ people liken Bush to Hitler. Shows how much the American Elite know about political mapping. Hitler was to the left Mr. Leno and Letterman.

    It is very sad that people are more interested in the latest movie or ‘Dancing with the Stars’ than they are about the moment our country slants 1930’s Germany.

    C’est la vie

  349. Don Hughes said,

    on October 30th, 2008 at 7:23 am

    This just shows how ignorant the Aryan bloodline has become as have most Americans. How can you say that Obama is of good character with his past associations ? it’s evident that he has a very radical past with his associations. Have you ever heard of a Manchurian Candidate ? You are an idiot to believe that Obama will bring GOOD change to the United States. He is going to tax us to death and give the money to the multitudes on Welfare. JUST WATCH ! He is going to devast this country with his spending and NEW DEAL 2 Philosophy. Our country can’t afford an Obama Admin in the White House, no matter what his color ! That’s ONE THING you got RIGHT !!! If you want to talk about character, look at what he and Acorn are doing to steal this election !
    Look at him going back on this word and public campaign finance. Look at his flip flops over the last 2 years. Look at his voting record on Partial Birth Abortion, Gun control and Taxation Laws ! He is NOT going to be able to do anything he is telling us. He is telling us what we want to hear !
    “I’ll keep my God, my freedom, my guns, and my money, you can keep THE CHANGE.” Vote for McCain/Palin

  350. Godefrieda said,

    on October 30th, 2008 at 9:51 am

    Don, it is so very sad seeing empty slogans being used by uneducated people like you.
    You want to keep your guns And God? Your God is promoting guns and violence, is he?
    If you had listened to Obamas; message instead of drinking beer with your mates somewhere and believing Palin is so terrific (reports are slowly but surely appearing that she is in fact mentally ill and I wont doubt that for one moment) and that you should continue on your path of hate and sad terror, then please go ahead.
    The rest of America is very ready to a more peaceful existence, and so is the world.
    The latest insult Mccain/Palin threw towards Obama, the Rashid Khalid connection, has already hurriedly been put under the carpets because: MCCAIN was the one who had a lively contact with Khalid and even gave him $ 500.000 to *fund his research*.
    Palin ofcourse had not done her homework, once again, and thought the be very clever mentioning that name but it backfired like a good ole’ Aussie boomerang: mcCain is the one who should be crucified for HIS connections with Khalid, a Palestinian Arab, NOT Obama! (McCain and Khalid)
    I fully well understand that most people who have so much hate in them, are in fact living in paltry situations somewhere where the main form of entertainment is the local pub and darts. I do not blame you for that life.
    I DO blame you though for very misinformed rumors and slander people like you throw around and find those in fact very un-American.

  351. Godefrieda said,

    on October 30th, 2008 at 10:27 am

    Don, America can not be MORE bankrupt than it is right now, thanks to a criminal Bush administration, so your statement that Obama is going to *devast (should be devastate) the country with his spending* is another of your very loose canon balls and showing a further lack of any insight in anything other than your automatic gun collection.

  352. JD said,

    on October 30th, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    Mr Hughes,
    I think most of the folks on here are a little tired of being called idiots by you and all those like you for voting Obama. All that you bring up has been answered time and time again, I guess you don’t or can’t look into these subjects for yourself. Here’s an idea, do a little research on the illegal activity that has been occurring in DC for the past 40 years, that should help you with your obvious paranoia. I wonder just how dumb many Americans can be and then another day passes and proves its becoming an epidemic. Common sense and dignity have been thrown out the window and the lies, fear, hate and paranoia keep getting deeper and deeper. What a good bunch of folks we have in the good old USA. Hey Mr Hughes do a little research on education in this country, is the good old USA number one? Why do the American people seem content with dumbing themselves down? “I don’t care if little Billy can’t read or write he’ll do just fine, I’m more concerned about the government taking my uzi away” What does the future hold for the folks in this country if this is the mindset of many Americans? Na hell we don’t need to worry about silly things like the education of our children or alternative energy, climate change or bad people packing a suitcase nuke over our southern border, we have higher priorities right now, this “new guy running for president” is asking us to get off our asses and care about eachother, actually be parents to our children and be more involved in our own government, he can’t be trusted!!!

  353. Don Hughes said,

    on October 30th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Dear Godefrieda,
    For your information I hold 2 Associate Degrees, 1 Bachelors and 2 Licenses. What can you say you have acheived in educating yourself ???, because it’s apparent you have not done your research on Barack Obama’s history.
    John McCain, along with a Democratic Organization, gave to a research into Palenstine order. The fact is…Barack Obama is so far left of what mainstream America believes that he is having to steal the election and depend on uneducated people like yourself along with violent crime felons to win the White House. Blacks support him because he’s Black ! so, what’s the difference if I support John McCain because he is white. Where’s the double standard legit in this election. I can tell you it’s because most black people are more racists than whites and are voting for Obama because they believe they will get a hand out ! He has promised to give welfare checks and we know that the majority of welfare receiptents are Black !
    So, in the words of Reverand Wright…”Barack will take from the rich white people and give it to the blacks” That is Welfare and Socialist ideology…no matter how you cut it.
    Barack Hussein Obama is a racist, radical left wing extremeist and if he becomes President…GOD HELP US !

  354. Don Hughes said,

    on October 30th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    and by the way…I don’t drink. I’m a devoted single father to my daughter and I just want a world that will be best for her and I don’t think Barack Obama is that person ! Now, give him another 4-10 years and “maybe” if we can get to know what he really stands for. Right now he is too far left for me and what I want to see for my child’s future. I am also a disabled veteran, who fought in 5 major conflicts including Iraq both times and Afghanistan !
    I’ve see first hand what we have given to others in places of oppression and I don’t think African Americans who have never seen that can appreciate what they have in this country. Most African Americans in this country don’t even know what Oppression is ! and if you think Barack Obama is going to cater to the black masses, you better wake up. He is an elitist and the most you will get from him is a welfare check. Most black people disgust him. If you would do your research you would know that !
    Remember he is half white ! Seems people keep forgetting that fact !

  355. Don Hughes said,

    on October 30th, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    JD…Do your homework. Barack Obama began his political career in the most crime ridden state in the Union..Illinois. He has ties to radical organizations, not to mention domestic terrorists. How is that any different than a Presidential Candidate sitting down to dinner in the living room of a KKK Gran Wizard ??? Your problem is that you are the one who is not educated. You don’t have a frickin clue about politics, that’s apparent. DC has been corrupt for years and years. Your fault is that you think Barack Obama is any different than the corrupt politicians that got us where we are today. Just listen to what the Democrats are wanting to do now. If Barack Obama gets in the White House, HE WILL DESTROY THIS NATION BY KICKIN US WHILE WE ARE DOWN…YOU LIBERAL ASS IDIOT !!!

  356. donnyphant said,

    on October 30th, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    LOL…I only have one gun that was handed down by my great grandfather ! Obama wants to take that away, because when you disarm the people, you can have the government take over with little to no resistance !

  357. JD said,

    on October 30th, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    Mr Hughes,
    In reference to the last three words of your post, “GOD HELP US” I’m sorry to tell you this but I think God is going to be very busy in Alaska helping Palin drill oil wells and lending a hand in that natural gas pipeline that will save us folks in the lower 48. Have you researched Palin? “GODS WILL” Sarah has God booked up for quite some time, I’m afraid you will have to wait you’re turn.

  358. Godefrieda said,

    on October 30th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    Don, congratulations on your education.

    I was not going to spar here about educational achievements but because you ask me:
    I am a Princetonian/NJ 2002 yr and have a PhD in Psychology and a degree in Political Science.

    I hope that answers your question.

    I currently study in Muenchen, International Diplomacy and Human Rights. I also am finishing my 3 year MD sothat I can practice as a Psychiatrist and join Human Right groups in underdeveloped countries. Hopefully the WorldBank team.

    My thesis program was the research of the mental state of people in the western world who have gone through different traumas and belief patterns.

    danke und schlaf wohl.

    gruess Gott,

  359. donnyphant said,

    on October 30th, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    You know Bush did spend a lot of money, but the Democrats are the ones who did the most damage ! If you would do your research you would see that when Clinton left office in 99 he signed into a law a protection afforded to Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac so that they could give out home loans without worrying about reprecussions to bad ones ! Clinton said the government would back them and now that is what it has come to. The main thing Bush did wrong was to keep spending and not putting regulation on the home mortgage industry when McCain brought it up in 2003. Now for the last 2 years the Dems have run amuck in congress and got us way deep in the shit we are in now !
    There is enough blame to go around but when you blame it all on the current administration it just shows your ignorance of what’s been going on in Washington !

  360. Godefrieda said,

    on October 30th, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    Hi White Man:)
    I liked what you wrote and I am so happy seeing people like you DO exist!

    :)

    I pray for all of you that indeed Obama shall be your next President. And Germany? we have voted and the result? 100% for Obama!:))

  361. Godefrieda said,

    on October 30th, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    Donna, I read also all of Obama’s books and am deeply touched by them.

    His wisdom, understanding of the human race and acceptance of the differences there are, became clear page after page.

    Barack Obama had to fight his whole life against racism: first because he had a black father, and a white mother, then because he had a white mother and a black father..I hope you understand how this should be explained. Then because he wanted to become someone and worked very hard to get education. and then because people did not treat him the same way because he was *black* etc. etc…the fight was neverending for him.

    Obama is a beautiful soul and has had it much, much harder than ANY of us here writing and I feel out of the bottom of my heart that this man should get the chance to show what compassion and sincerity can bring a nation and the world.

    Any lies and untruths about Obama, makes me want to cry because I can feel the depth of all he is and wants to give America. I feel guilty myself, coming from a rich, white background and with so many privileges that there is so much pain and suffering for anyone who is *tinted*, and wish I could help much more to take that suffering and pain away.

    PS I lived as a kid in India with my parents (father Ambassador) and I went to an International School in Dehli. Does that make me now a Hindu activist or a Muslim lover? no, but it HAS taught me the beauty of everyone, no matter what religion.

    There are Islamic extremists but that does not make all the Muslims extreme and bad people, the same as there are Right wing Skinhead Christians, but that does not make all Christians rightwing skinheads and bad.

    And again about Obama: he is NOT a Muslim, he is a Christian, and a very good husband! (not like McCain who apparently left his first (very ill) wife and started an affair with someone else..who ilater became his wife..

  362. JD said,

    on October 30th, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    Mr Hughes
    I guess you feel the need for name calling and that is your choice, I’m not a “liberal ass idiot”. I’m an American with common sense and I happen to research quite a bit when I have a question or concern with a future president of this country. People like you seem to be predicting the “end of days” if Obama wins this election and honestly I just don’t get it. Would 4 years of an Obama administration be enough time for him to “destroy this nation?” In my humble opinion it will take decades to bring this nation out of the crapper and with out the American people wanting to lend a hand, help eachother and themselves it won’t matter who in the hell will be in the white house. Are people forgetting that if Obama is elected and in four years he fails to do his best to help the folks in this country then in 2012 we can give him his walking papers? This is where common sense comes into play, it is impossible for Obama to screw up this country more than it is already and in four years “we the people” can find someone new for the job. I do know politics Mr Hughes and have been addressing the failures and corruption of our government for many years. The American people have sat on their asses and complained about this incompetent government of ours for years, Why?
    We are the ones who have hired them, they work for us, we keep them in office and that shows stupidity on a level that is hard to comprehend. If it will make you feel better I hear that Palin/Joe the plumber might run in 2012 if its Gods will.

  363. donnyphant said,

    on October 31st, 2008 at 8:26 am

    I’m not predicting the “end of days” but we are getting closer by putting in the oval office a man whose only exective qualifications being that he was a community organizer and if Acorn is any reflection of that expertise, then I’ll take a pass ! and you’re right, when he does screw this country up with all his spending and taxes at a time that will devastate us, we can look to someone else in 2012 for the answers. The best thing for the Republican part in my opinon would be that we “tough it out” with an Obama Administration. Then when he destroys the people’s trust in the Democratic Party, we can let the Repulican’s reign for another 1,000 years ! LOL that’s the sunny side up ! LOL I just don’t think this country needs a junior senator with no experience trying to fix this broke country. Senator McCain has always been called a Maverick and that’s not something that the Republican’s labeled him, that was a name given him by the Democrats, because he works well for the last 25 years with the Democrats in Washington. In my view, Obama is going to bring more corruption than we could ever imagine to the White House. If you think George W is crooked, wait until you get an ass full of Obama and his crooked politics. Remember he’s learned from the best of the Chicago slum.
    Whatever the outcome, the main thing that Obama brings to the White House is a path away from the morals and principals, real or not, that this country was founded on. He is just too far left of mainstream America and here’s what’s going to happen….Everyone who votes for him are going to be questioning themselves, if he becomes President ~ “WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKIN”

    and…You know you make fun of Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin but, they are the only ones that are close to what every day Americans are. They are not rich like any of the other candidates and they are definitely “Washington Insiders” so, what should we put a Senator in the oval office…why not put somebody like us there ! that seems to be the best way to get America back to basics and clean up the corrupt politicians that have infested Washington like human cockroaches.
    Do you realize that Sarah Palin has more experience at running a country than any of the Senators in the race ?
    that just the fact ! and I don’t think Joe the Plumber is a bad guy for asking Obama a question…no one asked Obama to come in his yard. Then they try to beat him down as an idiot for asking a simple question. He just asked how Obama’s taxes would affect him if he wanted to buy the Plumbing business he works for some day. All the sudden, the Obama media is tearing the guy apart. They attacked him ! if that is what I have to look forward to if Obama is President, then I’ll take a pass. That is suppressing anyone who asks a question that you don’t want asked. It’s kinda like the reporter in Florida who asked Joe Biden a question that he didn’t want to answer. If that is the media suppression we have to look forward to, then i want no part of it !

  364. donnyphant said,

    on October 31st, 2008 at 8:29 am

    the above should read “definitely NOT “Washington Insiders” so, why should we put a Senator

  365. Godefrieda said,

    on October 31st, 2008 at 9:11 am

    Donnyphant: just do one thing and that is: type Joe the Plumber Fraud.

    do an honest research about him AND about Pailn.

    PS Joe the Plumber is btw a rightwing man and serves the rednecks very well.

    Google: Type : Rashid Khalid and Mccain
    Type: Palin mental illness
    Type: alternet.org and have a look at THAT website.
    Type: Palin and drag on GOP ticket

    etc. etc.

    You are all so very, very ignorant about so many things in your country and we are seeing this from our side of the water with great sadness and concern.

    I have no doubt that all your and others so very biased comments, all come from racism and has nothing to do with *who is the best to president of America*. If Obama were white, you would NOT talk like you do nor would you slander that man and his future role in the world.

  366. Jay said,

    on October 31st, 2008 at 9:20 am

    Amazing.

    What Obama fans aren’t getting is the fact that Obama couldn’t care less about you. You’re part of the problem.You are American.

    He doesn’t want the power of the Presidency in order to help poor people or the down trodden. He has always been about funding organizations that agree with his philosophy. Never has he helped any one individual in need.

    Obama wants the power in order to control where the money flows to. He likes people who hate you. Think they will get any of it?

    ACORN is testing the waters. They want a method to effectively tip the scales in favor of minority. A very small minority. The segment of the Nation that would love to see America fail.

    Flood the system. Let some fake votes slip by. I mean, It’s only right. The majority is guilty of being American and the world is sick of it. Right?

    How funny it will be when our system crashes and at the top is a black man who is tied to our enemies and to our criminal out-casts.

    How great it will be when this same black man redistributes those evil rich men’s money and gives it to people who see the world like he and his affiliations see the world.

    Then and only then will America finally pay for its success.

    Obama knows nothing about this country. He knows nothing about Democracy. His story is a dime a dozen. So what? He chose politics over basketball. Big deal. {His star status is the same as Michael Jordan’s and intellect is very similar.}

    We do not need a President sympathetic to hard line Muslims on top of a love affair with 1930’s German political philosophy. (I bet Marx is his own private hero)

    I even accept him to be as much of a white man as myself and I still do not like his politics. (I don’t like Hitler’s politics either and he was white all the way. Crazy is as crazy white as it is black)

    Any one of you who saw race before anything else, even the writer of this pathetic headline, are fools. (You feed off of divisiveness. Sick)

    Mental divergence is almost at plague level.

  367. Terez Badger said,

    on October 31st, 2008 at 9:25 am

    you poor racist people i feel sorry for you. you KKK members and skinheads dont scare us anymore. in my opinion your a joke! have a happy November 1st!! OBAMA!!!

  368. Kamerunite said,

    on October 31st, 2008 at 9:27 am

    A few days to go and I have been looking around the net to see if someone could care to state something that I have missed and I wound up on this page. Although I’m a Black of African decent myself, I have never been able to dismiss the White Supremacist’s doctrine as pure folly. For the movement to grow the way it has been growing in Europe and North America, there should be something driving it, which is far more powerful than the propaganda they ventilate. What is their business and where do I buy the shares? I’m puzzled at how they survive and how they manage to be as profitable as Exxon mobile in these arid times. There is a lot more to this group than meet the eye and I wonder how, and I wonder who….
    I’m not afraid of anybody because I know that the likelihood of falling into the nets of these people, in a probability is comparable to the changes being hit by a car or having my water source poisoned. There is always be danger from all sources and there is really not much anybody can do about that. Besides, the credit card companies already own my poor soul so that could the Klan possibly do with my flesh?
    I’m a Ron Paul supporter although I’m obliged to admit that his ideas are a little in advance on our times. He is almost like Galilee trying to convince his people that the earth actually revolves around the sun…Then there is MC Cain, which I have always liked. Obama is just that new thing and most people like the lasted and greatest test, he is like the I phone of politics, the favor of the times and you are either a die hard old timer, or someone who lives here and now. He too will past, but before he passes, he is here now and there is just no way anyone can ignore him. It is fascinating how most of the American Intelligentsia portraits him, articulate and bright. Articulate is one that comes around again and again and when I finally stopped to consider the word, it stroke that of all the words that one can choose to qualify someone who has mastered the art of rhetoric, “Articulate” is one that would come back again and again to qualify Obama’s oratorical prowesses . Rove said it, Bush said it, Powell said it and when you repeat something like that over and over again, the unintended result is that it sort of crystallizes the one fact that this is the only thing the man can really do… No one seems to have noticed his grace his allure and aura which are equally impressive. You remove the fact that the man is Black and what remains? I’m just hoping that on eve when the people that are still undecided will look at themselves in the mirror they will ask themselves that question. If Obama were not colored, would I still vote for him? If you can answer that question honestly in a way or another, you will have made your contribution to history, in your own little way. It is time time to inject a good dose of honestly and candor in this game and if you listen to your heart and vote, then you are doing what we are all supposed to do. Do not listen to anyone nor anything else!!!

  369. Godefrieda said,

    on October 31st, 2008 at 10:49 am

    Obama does NOT *sympathize* with Muslim people, he does not hate them, like you guys hate intelligent people like Bidenm bur he does not *hate them: Obama is a Christian, a very good Christian!.

    It is incredibly sad to see so much ignorance in America and a denial of the truth which is:

    McCain/Palin would bring America and with that the world, to a WWIII, so obvious with their already displayed aggression everywhere and their LIES! look at the comments I have written here before, please, and do some research for yourself!

    People who say *God wanted us to invade Iraq*, are not fit to lead the largest nation in the world (although China is larger and I betcha (to use that dumb expression of ms Palin) that China is awaiting to result of the election with great interest:

    if McCain wins, which he wont anyway, China has a reason to continue its production of nuclear weapons to be ready if and when McCain shall start a war, with Russia. (already mentioned by Palin, same with Iran).
    China has already made special arrangements with Russia to form a block against America, if and when America would violate once again their rights.

    I can only but say: goodbye Americans. You then shall have become the reason for the destruction of this world.

    Obama is being regarded everywhere in the world already as a Statesman with great diplomatic insight and intelligence and would be the ONLY chance for any catastrophe to be averted.

    PS I do not get all this information by myself, but by discussing all this with the 200 International Diplomacy and Political Science students, lecturers and VIP visiting Professors at one of the best universities in Europe. Those students are all going to play large roles in the world, one way or the other. We have 23 American top students here, one is 38 years old and. This guy (he is from Missouri) has a plan for America that is mindboggling and very, very positive. And the interesting thing of it is? Obama’s policies have many, many of those same wonderful plans for America and shall change the world for the absolute better.

    in Peace,
    from Muenchen.

  370. Godefrieda said,

    on October 31st, 2008 at 10:52 am

    Uh Jay?

    You say *you are part of the problem. You are American*

    does that mean you are not an American?

  371. JD said,

    on October 31st, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    To Donnyphant
    I was hoping for a response from the all knowing Mr. Hughes on the common sense issue. If Obama was “all white” I imagine we wouldn’t be hearing the same dribble over and over, you say that I make fun of Palin and the Plumber Joe and you’re right. After McCain said “Joe the plumber for the 100th time in a day I was thinking maybe some one should give him a bump, you know like and old record player skipping, just give it a bump and it finishes the song. You say that Palin and the plumber are and I quote “They are the only ones that are closer to what everyday Americans are” I sure hope you are not saying that everyday Americans are as “SMART” as these two.
    Sarah Palin doesn’t have the ability to respond to a question if she hasn’t had time to memorize a script and if the question is one she hasn’t memorized she refuses to answer. Why don’t you talk to the librarian of Wasilla Alaska, she can tell you some real funny stories about Sarah trying to force her to destroy books by using threats and intimidation.
    Why don’t you read up on the ROAD to nowhere, a 23 million dollar road that was built after Sarah said yes then no to the bridge, she said, well we already had a deal for the road and I couldn’t say no to the contractors so we let them build it. This brilliant move left the folks in Alaska with a dead end road which includes a tollbooth that THEY PAY A PERSON TO SIT IN and we are out 23 million.
    I think they should look into the relationship with Sarah and this construction outfit because no one can be that dumb. Again we get back to common sense and dignity. Do you really think its Gods will for the US to have a natural gas pipeline? Why don’t you research Palins “witch doctor” from Africa, read up on what he had done to an old women that lived in his town.
    As for Joe the plumber what can I say, after I heard his brilliant words I was left speechless. Good old Joe agreed with another dumb American in a crowd full of dumb Americans concerning the idea that if Obama is elected Israel will be destroyed. Even a “reporter” for FOX news said that Joe is short on brains but long on mouth and that it was a joke to have him speaking on behalf of Americans.
    The best comedy writers in the world couldn’t dream this shit up and the jokes on us. I’ll take Obama any day over an elitist old white man who acts like a spoiled child during a debate. I’ll take Obama any day over a man that is not a “plumber” and the thought of Palin as VP or possible President scares the crap out of me. Would you want an auto mechanic to preform brain surgery on you? We are becoming a joke for the world to laugh at, are economy is in the crapper our children are dumbing themselves down and we don’t care. Keep the same crooks in office for decades and then say Obama will destroy this country?
    Yes common sense and dignity the good old USA is rolling in it.

  372. Jay said,

    on October 31st, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    Godefrieda,

    The sarcasm could have been more easily read had you tried.

    Obama is anti-American. He has nothing in the way of a constitutional education. He is a Marxist.

    Christianity can be feigned quite easily. Just like Bill Clinton’s marriage to Hillary. Leftist politics and acting go hand in hand.

    I tend to believe what the evidence suggests. Obama is what he pretends not to be. Guilt by the preponderance of associations. How many more will pop up before its over?

    Maybe some nice snapshots of him helping improvise some road side bombs during his Iraq visit. (see sarcasm is easily understood by the capable)

    Doesn’t matter. He is a socialist and IF he wins, it will be a short embarrassing moment in American politics.

    However it ends, it will end. Just like the Carter administration, American patriots came together from both aisles and spoke their voice and squashed that failure before it became worse. Perhaps another great like Reagan will appear.

    We can only hope. It sure isn’t Obama.

  373. Jay said,

    on October 31st, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    Godefrieda,

    I said hard line Muslims, meaning, the Muslims who want Israel wiped off the face of the Earth. The ones that want every person on the planet to accept Mohammed as the only prophet of Allah.

    Hard-liners are scary and Obama has them over for dinner and attends their hate rallies with bells on.

    Blacks in America are being very narrow minded to think that they are the only race of men that are derided and suffer racism. Blacks seem to think that they cannot possibly be racist themselves.

    (Some of the world’s worst racism occurs in Africa with blacks killing blacks. One of the very worst instances of racism happened when a leftist leader in Germany hated that Jews had so much, so he decided to redistribute their wealth and squash any complaint they might have had by sticking them in camps throughout the conquered countryside)

    Obama hangs around with anti-Semitic characters and the question has been asked and asked again. Is Obama anti-Semitic? I think his avoidance of answering these questions answers them quite audibly.

    Even Jesse Jackson sees the truth there.

    Ask him a hard question. He will shut you out. If the press doesn’t soft ball him, they will be removed from their seats and escorted far away from him.

    His tactics are the very same as Hitlers’ and you leftist people still think he is on America’s side. He is anti-America at his very soul.

    Obama fans are bad for America. Obama is bad for the world.

    I can only pray God’s will is against him and he will lose on Tuesday.

    Godefrieda, you have no sense of mercy. The Iraqi people suffered beneath the Hussein leadership. I imagine God did want us to do something. The crying out to heaven was probably deafening.

    Rape as a means for punishment. Killing babies because Mom and Dad were thought to not like the boss.

    If you can’t see why Bush went in then you are beyond reproach. You would then belong in another time and place, say 1930’s Germany in a white body and your hand on the switch for a bit of poison on the latest group of Jews to pass through your death chamber.

    Playing politics with American mercy is anti-American. My thoughts on the matter would be to revoke citizenship for anyone who wouldn’t want to help people in need anywhere we are needed.

    It is almost sickening to think people like you make fun of God’s mercy as such that God wouldn’t care if Iraqi’s died or suffered. In that sense, America did God’s work in Iraq. And Governor Palin said nothing more than that, although in less terms and not quite so eloquently. But her intent was understood amongst those capable of understanding.

    America is not the problem, we are the solution. That is why Obama should not win the nomination. Not his race, but his ideals. He is a twisted miscreant with no American knowledge nor any American pride.

  374. donnyphant said,

    on October 31st, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    AMEN BROTHER ! YOU NAILED IT JAY !

  375. donnyphant said,

    on October 31st, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    Hey JD…I hope you’re smarter than OLD JOE Biden !!! LOL
    NOW THERE’S A FRICKIN IDIOT !!! Sarah and Joe the Plumber have NOTHING on him ! LOL

  376. JD said,

    on October 31st, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    Hey Jay
    Did you grow up around Obama? Its seems you know him better than you know yourself. And here we go with Gods will again. Are you so self-righteous that you converse with the almighty? “America did Gods work in Iraq?”
    Was it the will of God to bring down the twin towers?
    Was WWI and II Gods will?
    I see, 9-11 happened because the almighty wanted the US to free the Iraqi people from Saddam and even though Iraqi’s had nothing to do with 9-11 the big guy upstairs new that little Bush hated Saddam because of George SR and given a chance W would go blazin into Iraq to clean the place up. I wonder why we didn’t finish the job in Afghanistan first? Well I guess its all part of Gods master plan in between the wars we fight and the pipelines we build I’m sure he will show us the way.

    I wonder, is it Gods will that we hate, lie about and kill eachother? That we refuse to see eachother as equals?
    What about hurricane Katrina was the storm itself Gods will or the failed government response, which is it?

    Before I’m attacked for being anti God or what ever else will be said about me I do not believe in a higher power, I know that there is a higher power. 21 years ago I survived an accident that I shouldn’t have, that no one else would have. The reason I’m walking on this earth today is because of free will not Gods will, This higher power or God or whatever you would like to call it wanted me to cross over and I refused, I wasn’t ready yet. It was my decision to stay not Gods and I’m glad that he/she/it
    allowed me the chance to think for myself and make up my own mind on whether to stay or go.
    And no I’m not crazy or a religious fanatic. I’m just trying to understand why some people think God only gives a helping hand to some and not all of us. Maybe thats when free will comes into play, maybe the almighty thinks we should be able to help eachother and think for ourselves. Damn thats a stretch the human race couldn’t possibly be able to pull that off.
    Lets not confuse Gods will with the action or inaction of mankind.

  377. Godefrieda said,

    on October 31st, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    Jay, I have only one question for you:

    If America was so humane and wanted to save people who get raped, killed, buried alive, live under a despotic regime, then why, oh why, did America not go in Tibet to free the Tibetans from Chinese invaders?
    or why did America not go to Burma and help the people, millions who get killed, or go to Mozambique or Darfur or..and I could continue.

    Shall I tell you the reason, Jay?

    Because NON of those countries had OIL.

    Have a good night and blessings,

    PS God shall not interfere in any elections, because God is not some upper *being* in the sky making decisions who is going to do what.
    The people of America shall be the ones who shall decide and I pray (in this case I DO pray) that Obama shall be chosen.

    in Peace,

    g.

  378. lisa said,

    on October 31st, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    hi im white and im voting for obama people like this make me hate being who i am i would rather be a minority what have they done so bad that makes you hate them behind a darn complexion.i had a black guy save my childs life,when he was drowning are you people really serious.a white man that thinks like this is a shame to our race

  379. anton said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 8:03 am

    The Republican Party is heading for disaster, I am sorry that the best that they could put forward are McCain an old man that should have retired and a stupid woman who among other things “can skin a moose” and who is a christian in that stupid American sense. I really despair how a Nation that can put man on the moon has gotten in a position that they need to vote in a black man over an old man and idiotic woman. Obama will win, it up to Americans to come together and sort out their problems.

  380. donnyphant said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 8:46 am

    Hey Godefrieda

    YOU BEEN DRINKIN YOUR BATH WATER AGAIN ??? OR JUST THE OBAMA KOOL AID ??? LOL

    NOBODY IS GOING TO BLOCK US…THEY CAN’T YOU IDIOT ! THEIR ECONOMIES DEPEND ON OURS !

    YOU DON’T HAVE A CLUE JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE IDIOTS FOLLOWING THE OBAMA DOCTRINE !

    HE IS A BLACK LIBERATION RACIST ALONG WITH HIS REV WRIGHT LUNATIC AND ALL THE OTHERS !

    HE IS EITHER SO WEAK THAT HE DOESN’T STAND UP FOR HIS BELIEFS AND LETS THOSE IDIOTS RANT AND RAVE OR HE IS JUST LIKE THEM !

    ALL I CAN SAY IS IF AND THAT’S A BIG IF….HE GETS IN THE WHITE HOUSE…HE WILL BE WORST THAN THE LAST IDIOT THAT GOT IN THE WHITE HOUSE JIMMY CARTER. WE WILL NOT SURVIVE ANOTHER IDIOT LIKE THAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE. THE REPUBLICANS HAD TO COME TO THE RESCUE THEN AND THEY WILL HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN IN 2012 IF THAT IS THE SHITTY HAND FATE DEALS US !

  381. donnyphant said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 8:47 am

    DEMOCRATS DON’T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE A CRISIS, THAT IS A PROVEN FACT BY HISTORY !

  382. donnyphant said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 9:29 am

    Dear Fellow Business Owners

    As a Business owner who employs 30 people, I have resigned myself to the fact that Barack Obama,
    wll be our next President, and that my Taxes and Fees, will go up in a BIG way.

    To compensate for these increases, I figure, that the Customer, will have to see an increase in my fees to them of about, 8%. I will also have to lay off 6 of my employees. This really bothered me as I believe we are family here and didn’t know how to choose who will have to go. So, this is what I did. I strolled thru the parking lot and found, 8 Obama bumper stickers on my employees cars. I have decided these folks will be the first to be laid off.

    I can’t think of another fair way to approach this problem. If you have a better idea, let me know. I am sending this letter to all Business owners that I know.

    Sincerely
    Ward
    JOOA Corp.

  383. Realist said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 10:46 am

    You are all fools! Too many whites think that if they are “nice” to other races, give them our jobs & government funding to live on, inter-marry with them, etc., they will like us caucasians. Open your eyes!! It is THEY who hate us & want to rid America of US. I live in an area of the country that has a very high % of blacks & hispanics & I hear their talk. They think we are fools, & in most instances, they are right! When push comes to shove, they will invariably side with their own, just as many whites would. Watch the news - 99.9% of the time the random acts of violence, burglary, robbery, etc. are committed by a black male! I can’t even remember the last time a violent crime commited in this state turned out to have a white perpetrator. Check out the stats. Look at prison populations. Get your head out of your*** & smell the coffee! Race wars are a serious possibility if Obama gets in. Remember too, my Jewish friends who support this Muslim, that he has made disparaging remarks about Israel. And he IS a Muslim, & as such, would side with his fellow Muslims in the eventual destruction of Israel & the Jewish people. Like sides with like. Obama is black & Muslim - we are in serious danger if that evil man gets elected!!!!!

  384. Godefrieda said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 10:50 am

    donnyphant, I feel very sorry for you, seeing once again your unbridled aggression, uneducational ranting and above all CAPITALS writing your last slanderous message.

    I really do not have time listening to people like you because I am putting my energy where it matters: to people who need help, the 3rd World, Human rights, the wellbeing of everyone on this very precious earth of ours, freedom from oppression, environmental issues, peace.

    please dont bother insulting me or others any longer.

  385. Godefrieda said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 10:56 am

    donnyphant, bravo, you have 30 people working in your businesss: my family employs 15.000. (do you now have any idea perhaps who I am?:) german, in Muenchen.,..what business could that be…:)

    My family pays huge taxes, also in the USA because we also have about 3000 people there working.

    You know what: we dont care to pay taxes because we know we are taking care of many, many families (and they are all doing well, thank you for asking) and above that, the company my dad owns, donates at least 20% of the profits to causes like Christian Childrens Fund, Earth Watch, Scientific youth groups (to encourage the young people to keep on inventing new technology), solar power companies, Free Tibet and so forth.

    What have you done with your life and what did you offer others except fear mongering?

    kind regards,

    g.

  386. Godefrieda said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 11:04 am

    realist, hi there.

    it is about time that ALL races are treated in the same way as the *white* ones.

    there is more trash in the WHITE world, including the white *executives* and above all, the Bush’ administration than many people ever want to admit.

    I for one am looking very much forward to a more peaceful world,

  387. Godefrieda said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 11:05 am

    donnyphant: Kennedy was a Democrat. The crisis he averted had to do with Cuba and Russia.

    Unfortunately some idiot shot him but he was destined to become the best President ever.

    Now it is Obama.

  388. Godefrieda said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 11:08 am

    Lisa, bless you, sweet friend.

    peace and love,

    from Muenchen,
    g.

  389. Bill Taxes said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 11:22 am

    Why does everyne hate Whites! The only haters I see are all you people talking smack!
    Mrs.Obama did do her thesis on Black Supremacism, Obamas Aunt is here for 20 yrs living off YOUR handouts,and she is here illegally,haha, Obama is a Pawn, and he has you all fooled, McCain has been fighting for this country for 50 yrs, Obama has been a Traitor, just ask the people who live in HIS slum.And for all you liberals, your day will come.God is watching, your abortions,your sodomy,your betrayals to your neighbor! and the white nationalists are everywhere, they are your police,your MARINES,your teachers.I wear a McCain pin,I see YOUR hate.your twisted face,you dont know me,you see a pin, and you call me racist, when you point the finger remember there are 3 pointing back at YOU!! Jesus Christ is my lord and savoir. all you white folks who live in the suburbs read FINALCALL(newspaper)Louis Farrakhan’s,

  390. Godefrieda said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    Bill taxes:

    1. it is the HALF sister of Obama;s late father
    Further, she lives here since 2003 and was here on huminatarian grounds. Many of her friends and family were killed in the bloodshed in Kenya.
    Bush did not want any Kenians because there was nothing for him to gain.
    This poor lady fell through the cracks and it is as Obama already stated: *he did not know she was here illegally, he never had contact with her, except the christmas card exchange. Now he knows, he wants normal law to take effect, and that means that he shall not be lenient because it is a HALF aunt, but shall follow the laws as it is written, no exception in this*.

    Mccain did not fight for America for 50 years: he was a lousy pilot (read the articles in many newspapers of last month: he crashed numerous planes, all by himself, Nothing to do with being Shot down or attacks by *enemies*, was only a short time in the war before he was taken prisoner (and survived prison camp by uh, can I say this? bribing. (Law society reports. I studied at Princeton and have seen all those papers, they are public).

    Mccain is no hero and his latest decisions, incoherent talks and *endorsement* of a fraudulent man (Joe the Plumber: read about him on the internet: many media reports/tax/ investigations are now surfacing: Joe OWES taxes!!:)), is NOT licensed and is NOT a businessowner: he is a (paid) contractor) are further proof of his *losing it*.

    He is a nice grandfather and should play golf, not endanger the world with his insane selection of a low IQ and uneducated *maverick* like Palin.

    I

  391. JD said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    To Godefrieda,
    Thank you for your posts you write the truth and show great patience. I hate to say this but many Americans wouldn’t see the truth if it hit them in the face.
    If this is such a great country then why are these blowhard Americans so closeminded and selfish? I guess their ideas of what makes a country great differ from mine.
    Its my hope that the majority of we Americans can and will stand for what is right and just but then another day passes and I really think we are doomed.
    As you have read instead of caring for eachother many are hellbent on caring for themselves and nothing else, on top of such selfishness they have the nerve to bring God into their reasoning as an excuse or crutch or even a threat.
    Some of us are goodhearted but wrongheaded in our approach to the problems we face but lets be truthful many are just plain dumb. We Americans are really good at sitting on our asses and complaining about everything, the price of gas, food, taxes, corruption in government,
    a broken educational system, we are to busy crying over our problems to even consider anyone or anything else on this planet. But last night millions of Americans proudly put on their Sarah Palin halloween costumes and celebrated this wonderful life we have in this country. I’m not sure if Palin has a deal with the costume makers but if she does the American people just made her a multi-millionaire during their costume shopping spree. In America we are proud to have “Joe six pack not a plumber” stand at a podium and mumble incoherent sentences. We are always looking for our next big star and we don’t give a damn about substance or quality of the star, if it sells we run with it. I guess Joe the plumber has an agent now and I wonder how can he afford to pay his agent and not his taxes? What a great country, Joe the not a plumber is an American hero and Obama is the enemy.
    Anyway I really enjoy reading your posts. I hope that the majority of Americans open their eyes only time will tell.

  392. JD said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    To Realist
    I need to say thank you for proving every point I’ve been trying to make since I’ve posted here. Hate, fear, misinformed, brainwashed, uneducated, closeminded, selfish and just plain crazy are a few words that come to mind when I read you’re paranoid filled post. Wow, how many more people like you are really out there? I guess I’ll start packing my bags early because with every passing minute more of “you Americans” seem to be appearing from the shadows. I think I’ll head to Mexico and let you real Americans fix this country.
    Realist please find a therapist before Nov 4th because if Obama wins I feel you will be a danger to yourself and all those around you.

  393. James said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    Why is it when a black person says they are voting for Obama only because he is black, it’s not racists ? but, if I say that I’m voting for McCain/Palin because they have my white christian conservative values at heart, then I’m considered “racists” ? what’s up with that ? can any black person out there answer that question for me ?

  394. donnyphant said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    Kennedy was more centralist than Barack Obama. Obama is way too far left ! way out of mainstream America ! Anyone who would sit through a dinner where the speakers are reading hate speeches directed at America is way too liberal. I don’t think he has the best interest of this country at heart. I’m sure JFK would roll over in his grave if he knew we are comparing him to a liberal black man and his policies as President. You are right about Kennedy was gunned down and that was government orchestrated. He was trying to restructure the CIA and other agencies. His brother met the same fate because of his attacks on the mob in Las Vegas as Atty Gen ! Both Kennedy’s were dirty politicians, even Ted Kennedy. They were the dirtiest politicians of their time.
    He may have become a great president, but as far as the war he started in Vietnam that ended up the worst war this country has ever partaken in, even more than the Iraq/Afghan war ! Kennedy was a conservative Republican compared to Barack Obama ! LOL

  395. donnyphant said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    You’re not even an American ! You could never know how it feels to be an American ! You will never have the pride and patriotism and love for this country that we born and bred Americans have ! If you are overseas, you should just shut up and color and leave America’s destiny to US…THE AMERICAN PEOPLE !

  396. Jay said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 6:32 pm

    JD,

    I don’t pretend to know the will of God and never have I heard his voice speaking to me or anyone else. But I can imagine the ultimate good and the ultimate mercy. Can you not? If so, then you would be on equal footing as such sadists as Dahmer or Manson.

    (aren’t liberals supposed to be bleeding hearts? Or is that only when there is a Liberal sitting in the Oval Office?
    )

    I do know that the Iraqi people were suffering under the Hussein Empire. The point was that God’s mercy would be inclusive of the Iraqi peoples suffering and that America is the only World power with the tools to deal with such things as sadistic dictators.

    If the left had its way, America would sit and do nothing to help anyone in need. You all sit and doubt that God does much of anything. In fact, you simply want God kept out of any discussion.

    I feel sorry for you. You think your college days were spent being made superior to rational thought when in fact, you weren’t receiving an education at all. You were being brainwashed into thinking the way your leftist leaders wanted you to think. You were being diminished into a mindless lump of flesh that repeats what the mindless left media pumps into your otherwise empty brain.

    Rant away. Mention God and the left suddenly starts to foam at the mouth and appear to experience seizure-like insight into how Katrina was punishment for homosexuality or how the twin towers were God’s way to tell us to attack Iraq. Only the far right religious make such statements. I, however, am not a far right religious zealot.

    Common sense would lead to the same conclusions. Mercy dictated that we free the down trodden in Iraq. It had nothing to do with visions or hearing voices. Those in the proverbial ‘know’ made the decision based off of the evidence of NATO’s intelligence. Bush did not act alone there.

    But that was not the subject and you digress. Avoiding the facts about Obama’s Marxism will not make it disappear. Looking back to 2001 will never make me or anyone else accept a change to our Constitutional foundations.

    We are Capitalists and Democratic and a four year accident will never change it. Change now? Ok, but once his butt is voted out, we who know better will just repair anything he managed to break and the race card shall lose its power for good.

    This is what, we that know, are regretting and hoping against. Give us a black man that can make his people proud and I will be the first one at the booths to cast my vote for change. But give me Obama and I’ll keep my Democracy and Capitalism instead.

    My money is mine and no matter what reason you all give for stealing it. It is still wrong and against the founding fathers ideals.

    Obama is bad for America.

  397. Jay said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    Godefrieda,

    Princeton? You’re not even adequate at blogging. It is painfully obvious you suffer from delusions and a serious lack of honesty. Your writing skills are so, that I doubt you can even claim to having finished High School.

    Nothing you said of John McCain is even remotely accurate.

    John McCain’s only fault is being white. You hate white people.

    Go back to Wrights brainwashing camp and ask for a Princeton Review GED study manual and return with some semblance of an education. Then and only then will your lies be more believable.

    This is another reason Obama is bad for America. People with no sense of reality are supporting him. People like JD and Godefrieda (who studied at pretend Princeton but can’t structure a proper paragraph or sentence) throw around the word, uneducated but seem to be this very thing they accuse others of being.

    The left loves to pretend to be smarter than the right. But it always takes the center to explain to either side where they fail.

    As I stated before, I am willing to vote for a black person with centrist ideas. Obama is farther left than Marx himself. Obama is teetering upon insanity.

    No country has ever succeeded with socialism. What makes Obama think it is a good idea? Stupidity? Or is it more related to his hatred of American virtues that are evidenced by his relationships with America haters and terrorists?

    I believe it is the latter and still I have yet to see anyone pro-Obama comment with anything other than ignorant propaganda that they have heard on MSNBC or the Huffington Post.

    Do any of you have anything to remotely suggest he isn’t a socialist?

  398. Godefrieda said,

    on November 1st, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    JD,

    thank you so much for your sweet compliments! your mails are also spot on and also, reading between the lines, so filled with pain..and frustration.

    I believe from the bottom of my heart that a better America shall arise soon, when Obama shall take over the reign. History is in the making and I am so very happy seeing this happen.

    I agree with you that Americans are very selfcentred and also cold, aggressive people: I have studied in New jersey (Princeton) and on my, not so frequent, tours to other cities, I was always stunned by the behavior of people. My thesis was built on the observations I made and has been used in other studies relating to extreme groups (all extreme behavior relates to a disorder in the normal thinking pattern. None of the extreme groups are considered *sane*: they all have a disorder somewhere, mostly a mild to severe form of paranoia (*seeing danger therefore needing guns and violence*) and schizoaffective illnesses.

    JD,now to come back to your mail: dont worry anymore: Obama SHALL win, I have no doubt about that. I, my family, friends, and millions and millions of people all over the world, what am i saying: BILLIONS!:) are rooting for Obama!:)

    I wish you much strength the coming days and then, ENJOY!:))) it is going to be a HUGE party, we (here in Germany) already have ordered the wine and shall make the biggest noise ever:)) ..music, dance, streetparades, everything!

    Peace and love,

    G.

  399. Jay said,

    on November 2nd, 2008 at 10:55 am

    Godefrieda,

    You are a racist.

    You speak as if only White Executives and only White trash are the only problem. I accept that there are a lot of people to fit this description. But all races have their issues and their trash. I would even go as far to say that trash is on equal ground in every race by the percentage average.

    Stan O’Neal is black American and is the former CEO of Merrill Lynch. While his investors are left with nothing, he is walking away with $161.5 million in stolen options.

    Stan O’Neal is a liar, a thief and a cheat. Stan O’Neal is a large part of the problem with our economic woes.

    You have lost all credibility and are on par with these Supremacists that this article speaks of. You should be ashamed but being a part of the Liberal Left, I doubt you have that ability.

    Stick with German politics. You will be happier there and perhaps you will need us again one day. And by us I mean the Capitalist/Democratic peoples of WW2 heroic lineage.

    Those that forget the past are doomed to repeat it. Socialism is bad, thus Obama is bad.

  400. Realist said,

    on November 2nd, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    Godefrieda - you don’t even live it this country! Move here & then tell me the same thing when a gang member of another race does a drive by shooting in YOUR neighborhood! Or breaks into your house & robs you blind (as recently happened to 2 co-workers of mine. And yes, they were black guys.). Learn Spanish & listen to what Mexicans have to say about “Anglos.”
    So JD, are you now a Psychologist, that you think you can diagnose people over the I-net? I’m a Middle East studies major, as well as a student of psychology myself, so “uneducated” I most certainly am not. The name-calling you resort to in your post merely shows your childishness. PLEASE DO move to Mexico, or anywhere else, for that matter!!!! In answer to your question, there are alot more like me here, & we’re tired of being passed over for jobs because some employer HAS TO hire someone of another race, even when they are not qualified for the job, all in the name of “racial equality” & being required by law to meet a certain quota!! If you can’t see the REVERSE prejudice that is rampant in this country, it can only be because you are too immersed in your erroneous beliefs to really LOOK & pay attention to the world around us. Or perhaps YOU are one of those so-called minorities who has gotten a job just because you aren’t a white male!
    Where Obama is concerned, consider this: If something looks to be too good to be true, it most likely is. What looks so good to all you Obama supporters right now will ultimately bite you in the ass.
    Argue this all out among yourselves - I really don’t care. There are those among us who see the writing on the wall, & all we can do is prepare for the worst.
    Dream on!

  401. Godefrieda said,

    on November 2nd, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    ok guys, this shall be my final comment here, because I am exhausted just going through all the latest ones in which I once again was so misquoted, and found so much that i did NOT say, what I do NOT believe and how I do NOT feel…yet those things were put into my shoes as if they were.

    So here I go once more (for all of you who have never bothered to read my comments the last week and just sputter their opinion as if they did):

    1. I thought a SUPREMACIST was a WHITE person: rereading some comments though, I get the feeling you think a Supremacist HATES the whites..is it not so that those supremacists hate the BLACKS?
    so:
    I am VERY white, from one of the purest Aryan bloodlines in Germany (for protection of my family I wont tell you here who we are ofcourse) and should therefore be a hater of anything that is not. In fact, I should also hate all of you white guys because you are not as *pure* as I am.

    But:

    I do NOT hate blacks, nor other colored people, JUST because they ARE colored.

    Most of you do.

    You simply do not seem to understand that a black man can be very well educated and wise because:
    YOU have always been taught that colored people are NOT to be trusted! and are stupid etc.

    May I add something to that? If you guys would have been slaves, in Africa, and had been ripped away from your families in America, treated like filth for many years, can you imagine how YOU would have been right now, in Africa? Imagine you would be in Mozambique, could you imagine how you would be treated there at this point in time?

    Well, America has NOT been very good to the black people. They tried, and were reluctantly granting the blacks a bit of this, a bit of that, but the black people STILL are being seen, in jobs searches and so forth, as second rate. After 300 years of being treated so badly, how do you think this has affected their soul?

    The white people though think they can get away with everything. There are many more murders and terrible crimes committed by the WHITE people in many *covered up situations* than by the blacks, but very often, because they are WHITE, their punishments are much, much less. Please do some research and you shall find out.

    ***
    My family is Lutheran and a very beautiful, strong and loving family. My family does very much good for other people and give much in donations, also to churches and christian organizations.(for instance the Christian Children Fund)

    Yet, we never believe that because my family is Lutheran and my ancestors fought for that freedom as one of the Princes in the German Reich, that their religion is the ONLY one: ALL religions are good and beautiful if they are USED correctly and not to as *the only one*. No one has the right to take away that freedom of religion. On the other hand, people like for instance the Muslim groups in Europe, should be so understanding, that we do NOT want women walk in our streets with headscarves and burkas, because that is NOT what our free societies are accepting. At the same time, If I would go to Abu Dhabi, I would have to cover my head because that is the rule there: so, opposite should also happen: in our western worlds, Muslims should UNcover themselves and be dressed as we are if they want to live in our world.

    PS I myself was in India/Dehli, with my parents, as a child (dad Ambassador) and I have loved the friends I had there and still have: Hindus, Buddhists and Muslims. This does not make me a *dangerous * individual, this makes me a much more accepting and *international* person. And I am WHITE!
    I would NEVER EVER accept any violence or endangering the world from anyone I know, but I do not have to worry about that: reason? although they have different religions than I have, they are EDUCATED people and they accept my beliefs without becoming angry about those and I accept theirs. ..and they themselves are against aggression and all that contributes to causing immense pain and death.

    What many people do not seem to get is that the MORE aggression nations show others, the more likely that the others, to whom this aggression and war has been waged, shall *revenge* themselves, one way or the other.
    I shall never forget that day I saw on the tv news this angry mob of Muslims after America had *by accident* bombed their village and killed many children and mothers. On the shoulders of one of those grieving fathers, sat a 2 or 3 year old little boy.In his hands he had a gun, and he was smiling. Everyone around him was jumping up and down and the boy, not knowing what he was doing, raised the gun when people around him helped lift his arm. They were shouting *death to america! they killed our beloved ones!! and there and then, a new generation of fighters were born: the little boy of 3 years old who could have been a scholar, a Lawyer, a doctor, a greengrocer: America had created another 20 years of war and anger.

    ( I shall write on another comments page the rest of what I want to say).

  402. donnyphant said,

    on November 2nd, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    Godefrieda,
    I too am from a pure Aryan race myself straight from your homeland of Germany. The name was Boltz which turned to Poltz, then Pultz during the Civil War here in America when my great great grandfather fought for the Confederacy, Cpl Fredrick Commodore Perry Pultz !
    Then my great uncle became one of the first Texas Rangers here in the great State of Texas. His name was Napolean Bonaparte Pultz, which by then the last name had become Pulse, then Pulce. I’m not a racist. I know there are good and bad in all races. I don’t blame any one race for any of the problems we face today as humankind. I believe we are all the children of God. I am guilty of playing the devil’s advocate on some of these blogs, but that’s not who I am. It doesn’t dominate my life or my thoughts like it does some. I know that whoever wins this election, it is all a part of God’s plan to bring the end to the suffering of mankind. God appoints the authorities of the kingdoms of Earth by His will and plan. We are all God’s children, even the ones who do not believe. They are just as loved by Him as I am. This will be my last writing also….I hope the very best for all of you ! You are all my brethen and sisters in God’s eye ! May His mercy shine on you and bless your days! GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA !

  403. White Man for Change said,

    on November 2nd, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    I am American born, a gunowner, white, and Christian. (not that that should matter)
    Obama is indeed a rare soul and it is a testiment to America that this nation can produce, from its very ideals and principles, a man like him. The easy road for him would have been hate, division, and even seperation. Maybe some find it impossible for true patriotism to even exist or have a hard time defining it.
    Like donnypant, who likes to yell and be scary, has a blurry knowledge of history, and is an attacker of Freedom of Speech!
    Many people are lost in the debates of the past. All they can spill out is old world politics.
    I’ts time to show the world the grit of Americans and some of us are showing our asses instead!
    What’s wrong with a message of hope? Whats wrong with reconnecting to our work ethic? Sure the world needs us to do that, but screw that, America needs us to do that!
    If I so ignorantly believed that Obama was any of the things he’s been attacked for I would not vote for him either.
    The free world is jealous that we are about to elect a leader they wish they could have. What are the cowards scared of? That Joe the non-plumber will have to pay the freakn taxes he skipped out on?
    Why are we so obsessed with average in America? We should be obsessed wtih excellence!

  404. Godefrieda said,

    on November 2nd, 2008 at 1:15 pm



    The reason there is so much unbridled and unintelligent fear-mongering going on at this moment in the USA, is because the (few) white people (and therefore not all of them, ofcourse, there are VERY many good, balanced white people in your country) still think they are such great blokes, do not want to give up their last bit of power and are against anyone who is NOT like them. But who are those hate mongers? I have seen pictures of them, guys in SUV’s, in their suburban, often not very well kept houses, guns as their main interest, violent movies another, and so forth. Have a look at yourself who fits this picture and you shall see that this is so.
    Also, going by law reports, your group is often violently aggressive and devoid of feelings for the underdog, meaning in your language, the black Americans.

    I am not going to get here in the same slanderous tactics your Mccain/Palin candidates have lowered themselves into by retorting to all the same aggressive accusations they have been using, because it is useless trying to break a wall of ignorance when it is made of stubborn beliefs.

    So to conclude:

    Obama shall be a fantastic, MIDDLE of the road President.
    He is NOT a Muslim and to use Colin Powels words: *what if he were a Muslim? does that matter?*
    Obama is Christian
    Obama is NOT a socialist.
    Obama is NOT a terrorist
    Obama has the highest IQ of all candidates but that should be no surprise if one of your candidates, ms Palin, yesterday did not even realize she was fooled by a *faux* Sarkozy, who gave her an entirely wrong name as the supposed PM of Canada and she did not even know that was incorrect.
    Or when the french accented prankster told Palin that he could see Belgium from his house in Paris, the same as *she could see Russia from hers*. And she did not even see the banality and sarcasm of such a remark,
    Or when Palin was told she is such a great hunter and that *Sarkozy* loves killing innocent animals and she laughed and said *I am looking forward going with you on a hunt and we can then kill two birds in one go*.
    Or when Palin said that Rashid Khalidi was a friend of Obama and therefore Obama was a terrorist..only to be hastily told by the GOP campaign people that that was wrong: it was MCCAIN who had given Khalid 500.000 $ for his *enterprise*..(Khalid is Palestinian).


    I am not going to defend myself against stupid attacks about who I am, where I went to school, because that again would be a useless effort.

    I am also not going to get into a match of further unrelated sword fighting about matters that happened before I was born, the Kennedy era for instance. I have given you my heartfelt and sincere thoughts about your country and behavior in this election campaign as it stands right now and the conclusion is that you have much, very much to learn to be able to reach the same level of intelligence, compassion, peace and wealth as more refined countries like Germany, Australia and Denmark.

    I would have liked to talk here on a decent and well-researched level, but I have noticed that this is futile and therefore I call it quits.

    Obama shall win with a landslide because the rest of America is ready for a new government with the prospect of peace and world diplomacy..America has woken up and I, the most white, pure, blue eyed,blondhaired and wealthier than any of you (any idea now who I am?probably not, but it does not matter) am very, very grateful for that.

    Hate does not belong in any society, peace does.

    I wish you all well and a great life, and may you not end up wie hier gesagt:

    Quos populos habetis in animo debellare proximo bello inter omnes gentes!
    (who have you guys lined up for your next worldwar?)

    from
    Muenchen

    amschlossberg@gmx.de

  405. White Man for Change said,

    on November 2nd, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    p.s. Hopefully the racist votes on both sides will cancel each other out anyway. lol This nation as a whole is embracing change and new leadership that will move us in the right direction. God Bless America!

  406. JD said,

    on November 2nd, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    To Jay
    So what you are saying is the US must save the world?
    So here is common sense Jay, can we help the world if our own country is divided, hateful, broke and falling apart? Spending 10 billion a month in Iraq when our country is broke makes sense to you? A small example of Jays common sense “America is the only World power with the tools to deal with such things as sadistic dictators” Yes Jay we can help the world but refuse to stand together and help eachother. Common sense, we failed our own people during Katrina, some are still homeless. I think you need to learn how to walk before you can run.
    Most folks know why we went into Iraq and many more don’t have a clue on how or when we should leave Iraq. We went to war because of lies and Bush’s hatred of Saddam.
    What a mess this act of mercy has turned into huh Jay?
    In the meantime the commanders in Afganistan are begging for help. Do you know the US has hardly spent a dime in helping the Afghan people Jay? No money spent on schools or any damn thing that may soothe the hate for America so I guess because of bad judgement the Afghans are getting the short end of the mercy stick. I guess we flip a coin to decide where we should spread the mercy instead of using common sense.

    This world “super power” is failing to educate its children but we will save the world? One more thing Jay I haven’t been brainwashed by no one “FREE WILL” think for yourself some time its a good feeling. Americans who brag about the USA being number one need to open their eyes. You seem to like using the word mercy, why? To make people think you are sincere. Yes Jay “free the down trodden in Iraq” show mercy. So who makes the choice of where we ride in with guns a blazin wearing our good guy white hats? Why no mercy for New Orleans or the homeless people in our own streets? How do you handle walking past a homeless American Jay? Do you call them worthless under your breath as you walk a little faster to get away from them?
    What about the Congo, Jay or Darfur? Truth is when we refuse to help eachother, trust eachother and care for
    eachother then how in the hell can we “save the planet?”

    To Realist
    What have you done to try to make this country better? I call it like I see it your post was a joke “Obama is black & a Muslim” those are your words Einstein not mine. First of all I think most folks in this country have color tv’s but for those who don’t and for those Americans who can’t read I thank you for the heads up on telling us Obama is black.
    Concerning your other point “Muslim” well what can I say, you are not being truthful, why I’m not to sure, are you sure he is Muslim? I hate to tell you the bad news but Obama is not a Muslim.
    One more question, why would it matter if he WAS MUSLIM?
    Is it so bad that Obama is asking the American people to stand together? To help him make this a better nation if he is elected?
    Maybe instead of bitching and moaning we should think of a few things we can do to improve this country, ya think?
    Hey Realist you bring up drive by shootings and home robberies are you folks helpless, whats the answer deploy the military and seperate the races?
    Will bitching about it prevent another house from being robbed? Will it rid the neighborhood of drugs or gang violence? Jesus Christ how about a little dignity and pride, it sounds like you live in terror, make a difference, help law inforcement, organize your communities get more involved with your schools, churches, city government and neighborhoods. If the powers that be won’t do their jobs, replace them, hire people who give a damn and listen to your complaints. This is what Obamas message is HELP yourselves and eachother. A government or a president can’t fix this friggin country but its people can, why is that so hard for people to understand?

  407. JD said,

    on November 2nd, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    To White Man for Change
    Great posts and great point.
    “Whats wrong with a message of hope?” I wonder if you will find an answer to that simple question from some of these folks, I’ve been sparring back and forth on this thread for months and have yet to understand why some people can’t stand the thought of change or hope. I admit when I first posted I came off as an ass and wasn’t much better than many of the haters who were ranting on here. You should have sparred with a poster called PC, lol After a few weeks of dealing with he/she/it I needed therapy. I see your message loud and clear if only other folks would open their hearts and minds imagine the possibilities.

  408. Realist said,

    on November 2nd, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    Godefrieda - Why do you keep blowing your own horn here & hinting around at your identity? Are you such a coward that you dare not state your name, & yet keep asking us to guess it? I don’t give a damn about who you are, or think you are, & all the “humanitarian causes” you supposedly support - as if I even believe any of that drivel. The glaring truth is: you aren’t even an American! You’ve never lived in this melting pot of ours. You’ve never been denied a job because you’re WHITE! I’ve seen it happen 1st hand. And you know what? I, too, am of another race besides caucasian - I am Native American (or what the ignorant call “American Indian”), as well as Celtic. So I DO know whereof I speak.
    You, JD, & others like you should crawl back under the same rock Obama crawled out from under & take that despicable mutt with you!
    MY PEOPLE were on this continent before ANY of you, & we didn’t call it America (after an Italian explorer) - we called it HOME!!!

  409. JD said,

    on November 2nd, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    Damn, one more point that I seem to have missed.
    This one goes out to you Jay and I quote “My money is mine and no matter what reason you all give for stealing it.
    It is still wrong and against the founding fathers ideals”
    Damn Jay you speak of mercy and Gods will but this statement brings more to light, are we a little greedy and selfish? No one is trying to steal money from you Jay, have you researched Obamas tax plan? I would provide you with the links but I think you are capable to find out on your own. Spread the wealth, tax breaks for the middle class, have the rich pay a little more, yes it sounds like socialism to me, I wonder what would happen if someone on tv would whisper “Obama thinks the world is flat” before the 4th, holy shit can you imagine the panic in the good old USA?

  410. french guy said,

    on November 3rd, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    no way obama can lose…almost all french supports him..unfortunately wa can’t vote :(
    time for change has come !!
    vive obama

  411. Godefrieda said,

    on November 3rd, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    Realist, if you are Native American, then you are NOT white. You are colored too.

    And if you had read my comments you would have seen that I wanted to make so very clear that I see all colors as one and we should stop hating other races. Instead we should do our best to be civil and good to each other.

    Australia for instance is a melting pot too but is much less racist then you guys here. And they are a much younger nation, meaning: America should have learned by now that hate and aggression does not bring happiness and peace!

    The sad thing is, people like you are so badly informed about reality, that you can not distinguish between true and false prophecies. You keep on hanging on to old laws and rules, rules which might have worked in the time of the Civil War, but not in this time and age.

    PS I am reacting here because my mailbox had all those mails coming in from this blog and I wanted to let you know that ANOTHER of the charities my family is sponsoring, is a Native Indian school in Dakota! (to secure that young Indian (Lakota I believe is their tribe) students receive adequate books and study material and also have chances to go to College after primary school).
    So..why are you so angry with me and other *good* white people? I really dont get it.

    In Peace,

    G.

  412. Godefrieda said,

    on November 3rd, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    JD,

    blessings and have a wonderful day:)

    in Peace,

    G.

  413. JD said,

    on November 3rd, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    Hey Realist, I guess that terrible name I called you “closeminded” fits huh?
    Godefrieda’s insight into what is wrong with the people of this country is dead on, and if you would get off your ass and research what Godfrieda wrote you would find every single word to be the truth.
    And what is the response of you proud Americans?
    “You don’t even live in this country” I guess we demand that the rest of the people on this planet mind their own business huh Realist? Now I’m sure if Godefrieda had told you what you wanted to hear then Hell you would be best friends, am I right?

    Heres and old poem Realist if you care to read it
    The New Colossus
    Emma Lazarus
    1883

    Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
    With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
    A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
    Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
    Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
    The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
    “Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
    With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

    Well what to you make of this little poem Realist?
    You are the one living under a rock my friend and now I see that you are saying you are “Native American”
    Well I came to this thread with the same type of chip on my shoulder I have Shoshoni ancesters but then I realized how dumb my argument was. You see we are all immigrants to this country, read up on the first Americans Realist if you have the time, if you are part “Native American” as you say then you will find that our ancesters also immigrated to this country. Thats a hell of a poem ain’t it, simple and to the point. You complain alot about jobs or lack of jobs Realist well unlike most of the nation Wyoming is booming and if you can fog up a window you will qualify for a highpayin job. This energy boom in Wyoming comes with a heavy trade off though, our wildlife and wildcountry is paying a heavy price, I’m surprised big oil hasn’t found a loophole to drill in Yellowstone, give em time and they just might. If you are money hungry high payin jobs are easy to find in Wyoming and it don’t matter if you are white, black, brown or blue you will not have a problem finding employment. I guess its called progress, I call it lack of vision by the powers that be, Alternative Energy? Na hell we have plenty of country left that we can destroy out west. I think you should come up with a different name “Realist” that would be a good start.

  414. Godefrieda said,

    on November 3rd, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    French guy: I am German and we are like the French: all of us wish we could vote too,, Obama would win with 100%:)

    PS did you hear about the *call* a *faux* Sarkozy made to Palin? vous le pouvez trouver a *You Tube*: sarah Paln Sarkozy.

    Elle pensait il etait le vrai President Francais:) *g*

    c;est incroyable, totalement imbicile cette femme (et dangereuse pour toute la Monde)

    afin, j’espere comme vous, que les Americains *shall vote for Obama.. and he shall win, with a landslide:))

    bonne nuit!
    :)
    G.

  415. Godefrieda said,

    on November 3rd, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    JD, did you see the You Tube of Palin, thinking she was talking with the French President?
    happened on saturday.

    go to You Tube and type Sarkozy Sarah Palin.

    it is to scary to even think she would EVER be a PM and very laughable at the same time too:)

    hope you are well!:)

    g.

  416. JD said,

    on November 3rd, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Hello Godefrieda
    I apologize to you on behalf of my dumbass fellow Americans. Its strange when someone speaks the truth they are the first to be attacked. As for the “Realist” being part Native American I have to really wonder about that.
    I hope you are doing well and again I’m sorry these fools treated you the way they did. What can I say this is a great bunch of folks in this country, open minded, caring, thoughtful, smart and kind. I wish you and yours all the best and thank you for trying to shine a light on a few of our many problems but when these folks go through life with their eyes closed there is not much that can be said or done to help them.

  417. JD said,

    on November 3rd, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Sorry for spelling “ancesters” wrong in my finale attempt to make Realist think!!! “Ancestors” there thats better, what do you expect I’m an American its a wonder I can even spell my own name……..

  418. GENO: the_warrior1492 said,

    on November 3rd, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    JD,
    Don’t bet on it, if you think “realist” is Native American by any means. He’s not. His logical fallacies on issues surrounding politics and race is far too extreme(symphathetic to White Extremists) to begin with. Not even close to calling one self a “part” American Indian. Simply ask any true authentic, American Indian in your area about his political views and affliations. Chances are, that he’s either an Independent(like myself) or a Democrat. Bare in mind that the vast majority of Native Delegates(around 500) endorsed Barak Obama for presidency.
    If Realist was indeed an American Indian as purported to be, then its fair to assumed his “Native” blood quantum is 1/4 or less. That still makes him look as “White” as the next Aryan. And probably has no roots nor knowledge of his Native heritage.
    Many Native Americans are for the most part in favor of Democratics. Because the Republicans have failed from time to time to address the needs of Indian issues so crucial in Indian Country. They have sought to eleminate Tribal Sovereignty, Self-Determination and so forth. And if you look at that Wacky Wonder from Wahsilla–Sarah Palin`s record on indian issues, that pretty much says it all. She’s a destroyer of Native Rights especially when it comes down to the Native Sustenance Rights Act for the Indigneous Peoples of Alaska.

  419. JD said,

    on November 3rd, 2008 at 7:10 pm

    See what you have done to me Realist? lol I spelled Final wrong…..

    Godefrieda
    I just listened to Palin on Youtube, very funny, sad and scary at the same time….

    I think McCain should be ashamed of himself for throwing Palin into this situation. What is even more frightening is the fact that many Americans believe that Palin is the greatest thing in this country since the invention of the lightbulb, she is the new star or idol that many believe will make a difference.
    If McCain/Palin win I have already made plans to hang my hat in Old Mexico.

  420. DoubleFudge said,

    on November 3rd, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    Obama is bi-racial.

    If he should fail in the White House, he shall fail not as a ‘black’ man or a ‘black man muddied with Caucasian blood ‘, but as a human being.

    Case is CLOSED.

  421. Godefrieda said,

    on November 3rd, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    White man, that was a beautiful comment you wrote a few days ago here on this blog.

    blessings and may Obama indeed win, America learn from all the pain and suffering of so many centuries, and may the world have a better future, together with all you Americans!

  422. Realist said,

    on November 4th, 2008 at 2:35 am

    Wyoming, huh? Well that explains a lot, including your inability to use good grammer, spelling, & punctuation. In answer to your question: no, it does not fit. But it is possible to be so “open-minded” that your brains fall out, as seems to be true in your case. I prefer to strive for a happy medium. You missed my point entirely, Sherlock(why am I not surprised?). I said that like sides with like. Therefore, you can be certain that Obama will champion any black causes, & have a sympathetic ear for his fellow Muslims. You know, the kind of guys that blew up the twin towers? And yes, I am absolutely certain that he IS Muslim. Both his biological dad & his stepdad are Muslim. He was born & raised as a Muslim. Haven’t you read any bios on your buddy? You need to do your research. Why does it matter? Because LIKE SIDES WITH LIKE, dumbshit! It’s human nature! Maybe if I say it enough times you’ll get the point, but I doubt you are capable.

    What am I doing to make this a better country? For starters, I’m trying to keep the wrong man out of office!

    What’s this B.S. about living in terror, calling out the military, etc.?!? Again, you missed my original point, which was: reverse prejudice & hatred shown to whites by the “other” races who are the recipients of our welfare system, our social security, the “equal opportunity” laws that state that an employer must hire “minorities” whether they are as qualified as a white person or not, & so on. If y’all think you’ve won their favor by so doing - WAKE UP! They still hate whites anyway! I never said that I hate them. I said that they hate us. If you lived in a huge metropolitan area as I do, rather than the largely unpopulated Wyoming flat lands, you might have the dubious pleasure of witnessing that hatred on a day-to-day basis. I am a Librarian in a mostly black area, right across from a school. You should hear those young black kids talk. Not all, but many. And I live in a mostly hispanic apt. complex, where I often overhear disparaging remarks about “gringos” made in Spanish, which I fully comprehend. They are cool with me because I do speak Spanish, & I can pass for hispanic because of my dark hair. Those I know to be good people, people who do not engage in criminal activities & are here legally, I often help to apply for food stamps, housing, etc. I also cooperate with the local police to make our complex safer for everyone. But I’ve recently had 2 hispanic males shooting a 9mm handgun right outside my living room window!!! Try it sometime - makes for a really exciting evening. So, just what the f**k do YOU do to make America a better place?

    Read up on the origins of the Native Americans? I’ve taken college courses in the subject. Are YOU so narrow-minded that you can’t imagine indiginous peoples living here, without having had to cross the Bering Strait? A theory, by the way, which has been called into question as new evidence of prior occupation is uncovered. I don’t know about your Native ancestors, but mine have always been here.

    That’s right, I don’t think foreigners have any business telling Americans what they should/should not think, say, do, etc. Immigrate & become a tax-paying citizen of this country before you go shooting off your mouth & giving us your inexperienced, ignorant opinion.

    As for your poem, I can assure you that it was NOT written by a Native American, or he’d have said, “give me your smallpox infected blankets & tell me about manifest destiny & genocide. Bring people of all races to drive us from our lands & put us on poverty-ridden reservations. Replace our way of life with your own many & diverse cultures.” There is more than one way to look at it.

    Yes, it is strange that one who speaks truth gets attacked. That very thing happened to me right here on this site! Go figure……..

    I don’t know what the “J” stands for, besides maybe “jerk”, but I can hazzard a few guesses as to what the “D” stands for: Dumbass, like you wrote above? Dick? Dipshit? Deluded Democrat? Maybe all the above…..You should add an “H” for hopeless.

    Godefrieda - you have yet to tell why you play this silly game of “guess my identity, if you can.” As for me being “colored” - I am of the Iroquois, who are very light-skinned, as the native people of the eastern woodlands are. I am also Celtic. So, no, I am of a basic “pink” color, unless I’ve been getting a tan. Some mistake me for Greek.

    The rest of your response is so erroneous & not addressing what I was actually saying, that it’s not even worth responding to. But if you or your family are, in truth, assisting a Native school in Dakota, well………….Bravo! Keep up the good work!

  423. Jay said,

    on November 4th, 2008 at 4:38 am

    I am part white and part Shawnee Native American. The white shows more.

    Supremacists are those that find themselves superior to others by a racial divide.

    Whites can feel superior to Whites ad be racists against there own race.

    I hate noone based upon skin color and find those types sickening. But Godefrieda, you were saying there are far more trash people in the white shade then any other. That is racist.

    And JD, Americans don’t need an apologist. Thanks but no thanks.

    It seems when ideals clash, things get personal. When you make fun of McCain’s ideals you are making fun of millions of Americans.

    I don’t hate Obama. I wish he would wake up and understand what comes out of his and Bidens mouths. They are trying to rid us of our traditional system of Government. He wants to follow in the steps of the great depression and make it worse by taxing , when that is the last thing we need.

    He will most likely win, i that we can all agree. But the question is, will he damn us to a greater depression. If he does, all of the world will feel it and probably even worse thann we do.

    Good Luck and God Bless America

  424. SPC ...LAB said,

    on November 4th, 2008 at 10:01 am

    vote for obama ……so we can fixed the world …..bring it back like be4 …..vote for obam…..YOU DIG…ALOHA

  425. donnyphant said,

    on November 4th, 2008 at 10:42 am

    USE YOUR BRAIN AND VOTE MCCAIN !!!

  426. Godefrieda said,

    on November 4th, 2008 at 10:46 am

    I love Native Indians and find their history incredible. At university I became friends with a Cherokee girl who became a doctor and has returned to one of the settlements to help her people. She was beautiful, funny and had a wonderful spirit. We also attended with a group of students a *sweat* weekend , when we all went to Nevada. Shall never forget this experience.

    Yes, my family is sponsoring a Native Indian School, it is by the way a Christian one, and it is in Dakota. When I speak to my dad, I shall ask him the details.

    No, Obama is NOT a Muslim. Like I wrote twice on this blog: I went to an International I (in Dehli) school and there were Muslim, Hindu, Christian and Buddhist children. I was there in total 6 years, from 5 till 11 yrs old. Being there and having made all those other religion friends did not make me a muslim, Hindu, Buddhist…I stayed Christian.
    What it DID make me is a much better person, more understanding and allowed to me to see other religions in a non-threatening way. I also had the fortune to go to birthday parties, hanuka, Hindu festivals, buddhist events etc. at those childrens houses and well, except from different food, colors, cultures, beliefs and music,there is no difference between any of us: everyone wants peace and happiness, same as Christians.
    ———-
    Obama shall be the best President the United States has had in a long, long time and yes, he is HALF black/white and this is even more unique.

    He is neither a Socialist nor a terrorist nor a childrens killer (as I have read in one of our newspapers, whole groups of Americans call him).
    Did you know by the way that every year 134.000 Americans are traveling to Amsterdam, for abortions? because they can not get that in your own country?
    134.000!!!

    Obama is not for nor against abortions but is wise enough to understand that unfortunately too often people are getting pregnant because of not taking precautions. You want a couple of million MORE unwanted kids in your country every year? who shall have miserable, poor lives with parents who abuse them? because that is the estimation of the number of unwanted kids being put in the world in YOUR country alone already!.

    Doublefudge: your remark is right. It should not have become a racial iissue but whether Obama would be the right man for the job, Thus indeed: Case closed.

    Realist: it is very sad that you always seem to have to lower yourself to the level of abuse as I can see in your latest comment. If you would not do such things, you might be taken serious.
    Abuse and calling names is very unclassy and belongs to people like Palin, who has no class either.

    If you think my english is not very good then my apologies. If you wish I shall continue in german, french, italian or hindi, no worries.

    If you think that *foreigners* should not have any opinion about what is happening with the current elections in your country, then I would like to say: *as long America knocks on Australian, German and other nations doors, for army troops, money and weapons to help with a war none of us wanted (did you see by any chance *W*? we already did and it made most of us cringe), and when America has been asking for advice and help so much the last 8 years from civilized countries because that country did not have a clue itself to come up with solutions, this is how long *foreigners* shall want to be involved with whom the next President of America is going to be: we do not want any more bloodshed, chaos and further threats of violence with irrational decisions made by an incompetent President.

    Further, because I studied in the USA and have made many very nice American friends whilst there, I know from them that they share the same thoughts as people like me and want the hate and racism to stop. We need to move forward to a better world.

    Obama, the Christian half white half black, anti-terrorist, non socialist, compassionate family man, can help all of us getting to that place.
    America as it is now, is at the lowest level probably in all of your American history. Bush and his friends brought you there. Obama shall help restore America to its former glory but with one change and addition:

    America shall be a much more refined country when he is finished with his work with more kids at school, less violence, all the jobs that went overseas, back in your country and most of all: the jabs Jay Leno makes once a week, interviewing people in the street and finding out that 4/5 of them always are incredible stupid and uneducated, (not knowing answers to simple questions like: is Washington the capital of America or New York? and *is Japan part of Pakistan?) shall no longer be a part of his program because stupid people by then no longer exist in America. (or at least became rarer)

  427. Realist said,

    on November 4th, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    No, Godefrieda, I didn’t say your english was bad. I was referring to JD Wyoming. And it was he that began engaging in the name calling. Re-read the last few posts. You still haven’t explained why you like to drop hints about your identity, rather than just being up front about it. Sorry, my french, german & italian are not sufficient for conversation. I’m better with spanish & hebrew.

    Your comment on US abortions is bizarre to say the least. I know of many women who have had no problem getting safe, legal abortions in this country. I know of no place here that has made it illegal or unavailable. I, too, am pro-choice. Again, it is abundantly clear that you have not done your homework, & likely speaking from heresay.

    Lovely that you have such vast experience with other cultures. So do I. I’ve been to the Middle East, Europe, Mexico, Canada. That’s all beside the point.

    Obama supports MORE government control, which is the LAST thing we need here. Governmental interference in matters of personal responsibility is what is destroying this country. Don’t believe me - just wait & see how bad it gets under that radical liberal. Thank God you & other foreigners CAN’T vote in this election!

  428. Jay said,

    on November 4th, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    Gode,

    That’s true. Most Urban men and women are terribly ignorant about the world around them. But that is true in most urban areas around the world.

    Intelligent people are rural to get away from the social programs that attract minority riff raff and the white thugs and trash that is attracted to it.

    Respectable people tend to want pe