Hatewatch Tweets
Hatewatch is managed by the staff of the Intelligence Report, an investigative magazine published by the Alabama-based civil rights group Southern Poverty Law Center.
Skinheads Arrested In Plot to Kill Obama
On Friday, the ATF busted up an alleged plot to assassinate Barack Obama and go on a multi-state “killing spree.” Agents arrested two men, Daniel Cowart, 20, of Bells, Tenn. (pictured twice below), and Paul Schlesselman, 18, of West Helena, Ark. (right), and charged them with possessing an unregistered firearm, conspiring to steal firearms, and threatening a candidate for president.
According to an affidavit filed by an ATF special agent, the men met through the internet and planned to engage in a “killing spree” that included shooting 88 African Americans and beheading another 14. Targets included a predominantly African-American school. At the end of the alleged spree, the men intended to try to kill Obama.
“88,” an important number in skinhead numerology, means “Heil Hitler” – as “H” is the eighth letter of the alphabet. “14” likely refers to the “14 Words,” a white supremacist slogan that originated with the late David Lane. Lane died last year in prison while serving a sentence for his role in an assassination plot carried out by The Order, a white supremacist terrorist group that was destroyed in 1984.
One of the suspects, Cowart, is a known member of a new skinhead hate group, the Supreme White Alliance (SWA), formed at the beginning of 2008, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. He attended a Hitler’s Birthday party held last April by the group.
SWA is headed by Steven Edwards, son of Ron Edwards, who leads the Imperial Klans of America. The Southern Poverty Law Center is currently involved in civil litigation with Ron Edwards and the IKA over the beating of a minority youth in July 2006.
Since 1995, there have been more than 60 major domestic terrorist plots that have emerged from the radical right. These have included everything from plans to bomb government buildings to amassing missiles, explosives, and even biological and chemical weapons. Most contemplated the deaths of large numbers of people — in one case, as many as 30,000.
Since 2000, the number of hate groups has risen by almost 50 percent — from 602 in 2000 to 888 in 2007. White supremacists have been stunned by Obama’s rise. That, considering the economic tough times, makes this a dangerous period.
According to ATF officials, the investigation is continuing, and more charges are possible.
on October 27th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
I’m just horrified. I heard people talk early in the race about the possibility of Obama being assassinated and I never believed it. Far more disturbing than that is the plot to murder 88 people and behead some of them like Islamic terrorists were doing. Not only do we have incredible hate from without but the same hate is attacking us from within out borders.
These guys probably won’t change how they think, either, from what I’ve heard about prison. They’ll probably come out more racist and filled with rage. What they need is to have a freaking education.
on October 27th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Which is why I kept stating from time to time that these White Supremacists are a grave and gathering threat. Many ill-informed White folks seemed to deny this imiment danger. Many of them post low buffoonery rebuttals on here that garners know nothings without merit.
I first saw this on the local news, eventually it was aired on the national media outlets before I came here and place my comment. Its a very serious threat to our National Security and we must remain vigilante against the domestic terrorists who seek to engaged in self-inflicted acts of Ethnocide. Gather your weapons and always be prepared for the enemy. With threats like these, we cannot afford to ignore.
That’s why we need the law to crack down on these WNs Nationwide.
Sen. Barak Obama will need to start boosting law enforcement agencies manpower and intelligence by enacting funding to hiring more law enforcement officials. So that they can locate the enemy and put them away for a long good time incarcerated for life. These people should be located and face Justice. They are no different from Al Qeada terrorists.
on October 27th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
These young guy does’nt have the money to afford the type of guns that they have in their hands that lets us knoiw that they are supported by some people ,that are older and have more funds and a colder heart than they do.
They grew up in homes that has taught them to hate like the hate. They do not need a mental evauation, or a long term prison sentance. They need to be give a chance to make their peace with what ever kind of god they believe in and put directly to death and allowed to goo to their white surprimancy world
on October 27th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
HA HA!
on October 27th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
How pathetic! We live in the 21st century and these stupid, backwards, rural jackasses think they need to kill an accomplished, self-made man because he ONLY had ONE white PARENT?
They are scum and if they weren’t dangerous, I’d feel sorry for them. White trash raising more white trash (I’m white). They need to go away for a long, long, long time.
on October 27th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
I suspect young Daniel isn’t going to do well in federal prison. . Due to the nature of his crime he will be sent to a hardcase prison where a young man of his tender years is a prized commodity. He’ll soon become ” The Sweetheart of Cell Block Delta”
on October 27th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
It will be of great interest to learn if these 2 intended to act alone or there were more involved in this despicable, deplorable scheme.
And nothing short of life imprisonment with no hope of parole is what they should get.
Bad enough they entertained the idea of assassinating Obama…but to BEHEAD high school kids???
These freaks are insane.
on October 27th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
And to think we are trying to unify the country? We have within this nation ignorant,savage and vicious people like these and white folk think minorities play the race card? Who said AMerica belongs to any one color? America was the land of the free from its conception, wherein people of all walks of life came and started their dreams. There was no white supremacy then. The native indians owned this country. The whites and others followed afterwards. Nevertheless, it is about time we look into the 21st century for the good of whatever is left of our time on this precious earth. These actions are only furthered by what the Repub candidates are promoting, that black is bad, vote white. Well, here is what you wanted, Repubs… more hatred and enemity, just to rule the roost. If u want the roost, you can have it, only u will suffer with more blood and sins on your hands. God help us all.
on October 27th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
LOL I dont know where you got your info from but that last picture was taken by me on the 19th of april and half of those people are not even a part of SWA and this Paul Schlesselman did not attend the “party” hosted not by the SWA but a house wife LOL get your info right lame asses!!
on October 27th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
So sad that these young men wasted their lives on the one’s who insisted them to carry out the attacks, Take notice the leaders will always forsake their followers in order to save themselves, proven fact as to what happened in “Jasper Texas”, they all turned against each other in order to escape the Death Penalty, everytime you Racists bastards think you can commit hate crimes and get away, not even your fellow Klansmen will come to your defense’ it has been proven moreso, You idiot fools don’t even have any resources to excell in your forthcomings….LOL
on October 27th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
I am in pure shock. This is terrible. To think in this day and age, all this hatred is still happening in the United States! I agree with all the comments that have been entered here. But what I don’t understand is where are the teachers, guidance counselors, or anyone who even cares about our children???? These children need an education and someone to care for them. They also need someone to show them the reality of this country. Yes, there may just be a black president!! But at this point, who cares about color. We need change period. We keep killing each other off, within all races. It is very unfortunate that those teens haven’t been educated, and their family has embedded this way of life in their brains.
on October 27th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Note to SHARP’s or other non-racist skinhead groups: For the love of God, grow your hair out and stop wearing the suspenders and white laces. After a newsday like this, I would not want to be seen looking like these two clowns.
*YES- I know the whole skinhead thing originally wasn’t racist or even remotely political in 1960′s England, but no PR campaign can inprove the label “skinhead” here in America. You can listen to Symarip or The Maytals and have a full head of hair (like yours truly).
on October 27th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
This development is obviously deeply disturbing. When I read this story this afternoon I cried. But as a white woman I am also deeply disturbed that SO MANY white people are SHOCKED by this story. I believe that white people who are awake have a moral and societal obligation to inform their unconscious white friends and family that violent racism, anti-semitism, misogyny and other varieties of prejudice are thriving in America and ORGANIZED for action. I’m dismayed that many white people think this incident is an anomaly. It is not. Law enforcement and the Secret Service have been alert to this probability all along, thank God.
on October 27th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
GENO-Columbucide1492 said: “Which is why I kept stating from time to time that these White Supremacists are a grave and gathering threat”
They never went away, It’s just that now you can see them online. James Meridith, Medgar Evers,Malcom X, Martin King and these are just the big names who were shot & killed. America says that until moderate Muslims speak out against the extremist nothing can be done. Moderate, decent whites must do the same.
on October 28th, 2008 at 2:29 am
I suppose they will learn in prison that love is universal and non discriminatory, because they’re going to get a lot of it!
on October 28th, 2008 at 3:35 am
The Southern Poverty Law Center has lied yet again stating on their website that the two young men arrested yesterday on charges accusing them of plotting to assassinate the presidential candidate Barack Oboma and go on some sort of killing spree are tied to the SWA. One of the young men was in fact a probate earlier this year but was ousted by the SWA before the SWA held an actual presidential election. Since this time none of the SWA members have had any contact with the accused.
So before you get your story wrong, (SPLC) get the facts.
on October 28th, 2008 at 7:32 am
Enjoy prison you dumb asses. I am sure you will make loving wives to some very lucky brothers. lol
on October 28th, 2008 at 7:40 am
This just makes me want to cry!!! How sad. These kids are sick and filled w/ so much anger someone should really try to reach them-the prison system needs more programs within to help rehabilitate people like this. It is a shame they go through life filled with so much anger.
I really want to believe that we have moved pasted this. I guess that is just me being optimistic. Then reality hits :( how sad.
on October 28th, 2008 at 7:53 am
As I sit here in Iraq and serve TOGETHER with white, black, hispanic, and asian Americans I find that it is horrible that these idiots were trying to cause so much harm. Why !!!!? Why!!!!? Why is there so much freakin hate floating around…… Why!!!!??? The sad part though is that it is in the military also. It is hidden but it is there. Just the other day while sitting in the Chow Hall having dinner a civilian contractor was sitting across the dinner table from one of my friends. When he saw Obama on television he got so enraged and said “If I had the chance I would put a bullet in the PORCH MONKEY’S head” This guy said this in a building full of soldiers serving in the middle of Iraq…
This is soo soooo sad….
on October 28th, 2008 at 8:28 am
This just goes to show us how evil the white race really is. We must further multiculturalism all we can before whites ruin the country.
The country would be so much better off if non-whites ran it. I think this causes fear in the white community, because they know it to be true.
Down with the evil white man!
on October 28th, 2008 at 8:33 am
This story is rediculous. Plot to kill Obama? Whoever really believes this was a legit threat on his life is a moron. These people are idiots, but they aren’t dumb enough to realize that they would never be able to get close enough to basically pull a drive by on Obama. THE REAL STORY HERE IS THE PLOT TO KILL THE SCHOOL KIDS! Now that is a real threat and should be the major concern of this story!
on October 28th, 2008 at 8:52 am
Omg i cant believe that people in the 21st actually still have so much hatred toward black people that are trying to make a chang. What really gets me is the fact that Obama isnt all the way black he is multiracial, These people just need not even a little but alot of education in their lives.They will get what they deserve.
on October 28th, 2008 at 9:04 am
@ Al Champagne
You can happily grow your hair out and turn into some useless hippie while idiot rednecks destroy the greatest subculture ever, but for my part I’m taking a stand, educating people, and fighting back.
The fact that even well-meaning media outlets castigate the entire movement because of the actions of a few show to me that it’s just that more important to get the word out that this is NOT a valid representation of the skinhead community, and that there are many, many, MANY people who follow the skinhead subculture who do NOT follow Ian Stuart.
But thanks for growing your hair out and all that. If you think shit like this makes it worth hanging up your boots, you shouldn’t have ever been wearing them in the first place.
on October 28th, 2008 at 10:06 am
I agree with the vast majority of comments on here. As for the rest are just asasine implies. However, I believe the suspect`s parents are partly to blame. These kids are 18 and 20 years old. I also think they were victims of bullying in school that they have attended which was comprised mostly of White kids. But their parents views on race may have played a significant role that lead up to their idealogical mayhem.
And Skinhead Austin, I couldn’t careless what Skinhead group you’re affliated with makes no difference on how society views you and the WN movement in general. Your basically not a respected organization as percieved by many, no matter what your message is. Skinhead has a long history retorting to violent methods. And its a accustomed belief by many who feel instigiated by your presence. That may never change their opinions as it have never changed my views of “Skinheads”.
on October 28th, 2008 at 10:58 am
They need to go the lone wolf way dont talk about any thing that will get you locked up for years rember the 5 words i have nothing to say when the comie fbi or feds ask you to talk SIG HILE WHITE POWER 14/88
on October 28th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
First off I would like to say everyone is entitled to there opinion. Good Bad Indifferent. What you don’t seem to understand is in prison these kids will be welcomed by there own race and if they are willing to carry out what threat it will only make them soliders in the eyes of the supreme white prison gangs. Everyone thinks racism is underground and only a bunch of poor inbreed white people what you don’t understand is there are very well educated and wealthy people that are offended by what is happening in this country, now whether you agree or not they are entitled to there opinion, and those of you calling them stupid rednecks will only further enrage the dormant racist side in all white people
on October 28th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
“John” observeth:
Which could easily be the line among white-supremacist channels in the coming days–as in their suggesting that the two were really victims of “entrapment” lacking credible proof.
The which may be worth watching.
on October 28th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Austin:
I am not a hippie nor do I consider myself a member of any subculture. I’m an American citizen and I am free to have hair and I can listen to whatever type of music I wish (my CD collection is as deverse as the good ‘ol US of A. Everything from Duke Ellington to Cat Stevens to The Skatalites to Stiff Little FIngers). Mr. Dees and the Law Center took down Aryan Nations and the UKA. No anti-racist skinhead group can say the same. If you want to dismantle the hate movement the right way, send a small donation to the Law Center.
These people are threatening to kill the man who will most likely be our next president. They dream of destroying this country and murdering millions. If you’re worried about your subculture, I must say that your priorities are pretty backwards.
on October 28th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
This is notably off-topic but i cannot stand it any longer. Here goes:
Why don’t some of you folks redirect your browser to adult continuing education? You could then find an online course in SPELLING and GRAMMAR. I hate comments from illiterate people. America is getting dumber and lazier and everyone wonders why we suck and everyone in the world hates us. We’re big dumb and powerful, and most of our citizens are morons.
on October 28th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
These two idiots are a embarressing. The more I read the sadder I get. This is truly an example if ignorance. The kind of moronic, uneducated ignorance that gets people killed.
I’m a corn fed white boy from Arkansas. I have a GED and am formally uneducated. The only reason I make that statement is to encourage you that not all of us are like those morons. (I know it wasn’t implied anywhere)
Sad thing is, like others said above, they didn’t get there on their own. They had fathers, uncles and brothers that encouraged that belief. They had neighbors and members of their churches who felt that way. I know how it goes. It’s infectious, rots the soul and it’s usually spread through their whole town/county.
There are towns in AR/TN that I won’t take my wife or baby girls through for fear of them being in danger. I’m in a mix marriage you see. We don’t stop for gas or anything.
This country is becoming more diverse. We’re still a long
I try to understand….. am glad I don’t.
Of all the negative comments above, most aren’t worth responding to as they’re obvious hate mongering. However, this one is worth a reply.
“Dan Jacobson said,
on October 28th, 2008 at 8:28 am
This just goes to show us how evil the white race really is. We must further multiculturalism all we can before whites ruin the country.
The country would be so much better off if non-whites ran it. I think this causes fear in the white community, because they know it to be true.
Down with the evil white man!”
Yup. We’ve done some bad things. Learn your own history then get back to me. It’s nature of men. Evil isn’t restricted to one race. Don’t beleive me? Do a little reading on modern genocide. Specifically in Africa and Middle East. Look deeper…. Just because you didn’t read about it in school doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Dan…you’re a prime example of the uneducated and ignorant. You sir, are part of the problem.
Racisism cuts both ways. God bless you Dan. You need it.
God bless
on October 28th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
I just feel sad. The picture of Daniel holding the rifle reveals to me a frightened little boy, who never got any reassurance. The two boys needed to feel big and bad, and ended up ruining what was left of their lives.
People are scared of what they don’t know, and that’s what’s driving this mob mentality on the right. It can be seen in Palin’s rallies, in the desperation of the Republican ads, and in the incredible break from reality in the actions of these two boys.
I’m sure that they considered this their ‘big play’, and had no concept of the misery that would have ensued, both for themselves if they survived, and for the families of potential victims if they had been even partially successful.
I’m glad they were stopped before they killed anyone, and I’m afraid we are going to see more of this kind of thing.
Peace
on October 28th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
I’ve got more reason to be concerned about my subculture than I do in any presidential candidate right now, and frankly, I’ve also got a lot more hope in my subculture than I do fear that these jackasses would’ve gotten away with one murder – which they didn’t.
You, earlier, made a call to all non-racists skinheads to grow out their hair, hang up the boots, and give up their identity. I’m simply stating that that call is ridiculous, reactionary, and counter-productive.
And you still sound like a useless hippie to me. I could be wrong, but I suppose I’ll never know, will I?
on October 28th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Dan Jacobson`s lame puny comments are out of line. You place the blame on the entire Aryan Race through the actions of an insignificant few who were lost(even in their own decrepit minds).
Folks like you are also “ignorant” and its fair to point that out. You are also a part of the problem. You Promulgate and asasine denegrating an entire group of people by holding them culpable for all your societal problems doesn’t hold very well.
Non-Whites and Jews have their share of crimes. And I am a non-Aryan myself.
on October 28th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
I was merely stating that with the news reported yesterday, I wouldn’t want to be seen sporting a shaved head, boots, and suspenders. These idiots are going to get increasingly violent in the comming weeks and months and I wouldn’t want to be mistaken for one of ‘em on the street. I know Marines who served in Iraq who don’t act a fraction as “gung ho” for their service as some of you fellas act about your lifestyle.
I am not a hippe for I don’t believe I need to be identified by a label. Also, I think that whole scene ended over 30 years ago.
on October 28th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Face it people, the true Aryans are decendents from “Iran”…., Hitler tried to make everyone believe in the Aryan resistance..LOL, true Aryans are from Iran….
on October 29th, 2008 at 2:50 am
This is bad , as a black man we came along ways for some one to take it away because of hate. if some one kill Obama it will be a war in the U.S.A so sad to try to go back in time, and this time black people will fight back. Guns we all have in this day an time, This is not, and i mean Not the 1960s
on October 29th, 2008 at 7:46 am
Austin, your subculture is not going to do anything to help the American people. If you like ska music, fine. If you have anti-racist or progressive values, great. But the fact subcultures exist to fill a void of real culture, and also whether you like it or not, skinheads will always be associated with racists and Nazis. There will NEVER be a day when the majority of people worldwide suddenly find out that the original skinheads aren’t Nazis, and endorse trads. And nobody should care.
So dress how you want, but don’t whine when people who don’t know you think you might be a racist.
on October 29th, 2008 at 8:51 am
“Antwone said,
on October 29th, 2008 at 2:50 am
This is bad , as a black man we came along ways for some one to take it away because of hate. if some one kill Obama it will be a war in the U.S.A so sad to try to go back in time, and this time black people will fight back. Guns we all have in this day an time, This is not, and i mean Not the 1960s”
This is what concerns me. NPR had interviewed a group of racially mixed voters in York, PA. Believe they were white, black and hispanic. (Most populous 3) What you just said was a HUGE fear. Now that I think about it, that scares the hell out of me.
Hell, I’m in Arkansas and I thought racism was reserved for a few select pockets of inbred morons. I just don’t see it. But, my buddy, who’s Guatamalan, said it’s because I’m white and don’t pay attention. That hurt a bit but, after paying a bit more attention, I see the truth of it.
I’m thankful our secret service is on the ball and we have the resources we do. Hey, Bush’s Patiot Act may be good for something after all? May be part of what keeps Obama alive….. (I don’t know that much about the patriot act. Only that it gives govt free reign on doing what they need to catch bad guys. Don’t blast me here….k?)
on October 29th, 2008 at 9:21 am
this is directed to john..
dude are you serious? do u think the story about killing obama is fake??? people like these F*ckers killed J.f.k.. AND HE WAs WHITE!!!!!!!…. we need to take this stuff seriously…i hope nothing happens if obama becomes president….
on October 29th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I thank God for the parents I had who were an ethnically mixed couple way ahead of their time, meeting from 2 different countries and raising 3 educated, compassionate, well-traveled individuals who in turn raised educated, compassionate, informed children, who aspire to create intelligent, balanced, globally-aware families.
They weren’t from an elite group of ancestors. One walked across the Rio Grande and the other was the daughter of hard-working, second generation immigrant farmers.
What happened to these misguided, misfit skinheads anyway???????????
on October 29th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
“Schlesselman and Cowart are scheduled to be in federal court in Memphis on Thursday for a detention hearing.”
There you go.
“Proud American” these dip shits are a far cry from Lee Harvey Oswald. They don’t have the resources or connections he did.
Seriously, this has been, and should have been, taken seriously. Secret Service did their job. But these idiots are just punks. The media is pouncing on an oppertuniting to generate sales based on peoples fears.
If this were a real, organized attempt from a group with the means and abilities required to pull it off, you’d see a much different result. Imagine if a group of ex-Marines were to get the same idea? I’m sure you’d never see it coming. And they’d damn sure not be running their mouths about it.
Move on…These fellas are yesterdays news.
on October 29th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
These bozos are decoys. The real team is already in place.
on October 29th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Henry Burke…That had best be seriously offensive humor or if you know something you’d better call the authorities.
on October 29th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Bald headed dipshits don’t know which end to even POINT at Obama. It’s fun watching em’ try to spell
on October 29th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
“The real team is already in place”? Where? in their Mom’s basement finalizing their master plan?
on October 29th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Theese men should not be punished, they should be given a MEDAL. Fuck Obama and his stupid anti gun laws.
on October 29th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
There’s enough racism to go around. Back in the 70s I lived in East NY Brooklyn. In the summer of 1979 there were eleven murders in one summer. One being a priest who happen to walk in while they were robbing the collection box. Another where they shoot a candy store owner and put the building on fire with the people in it. Another where they broke into a grocery store and went into the rear where the two brothers were and shot them.
Another was a white guy who got his tongue cut off and his two eyes taken out. My fathers friend and one of his eyes taken out. A friend off my family got his face slashed by a machete.
White people couldn’t ride their bicycles with getting knocked off and their bike stolen.
There were gang boys always sitting outside waiting for you to leave your house so that they can break in and steal everything from you. I had to leave my car a couple of blocks away and tell my wife to meet me there while I climb out the back window into my rear house and out the second floor window on to the next yards garage roof and out to the next block. I had to return every half hour back up the garage roof etc just to see if everything was alright.
My ex-motherinlaw was raped by two hispanics who came in through her window.
An elderly couple left their house to go on vacation with their children. When they returned they found their house recked and everything gone.
There was one old lady that was a little es centric. She didn’t have any money to fix her house. She lived on the top floor of which her toilet wasn’t working so she had to do it in a pot and dump it in the yard.
All the windows on the first floor were broken by gang boys in the area including the front door.
My wife and I tried to help her. She refused any help from us.
In the winter in was cold and she only had the old stove to keep only the kitchen warm.
She told us that a black man came about the time she would receive here check and force her to give up her money and he would rape her.
This story wouldn’t leave my mind. I went ahead and fixed her door and boarded up the windows so that it would be warmer and not easy to break in. I kept watch over the house trying to see if I could catch this guy and send him to the hospital. I never could.
The area where I worked was an area where few white people would roam.
The minorities kept pushing back on the border and all the white people were displaced.
I moved out of East NY Brooklyn into Queens thanks to the help of my parents.
Where my parents lived in Jamaica, Queens there where many robberies, attacks and assaults just like everywhere these people were.
My parents house was broken into a couple of times and my mother was afraid to go shopping.
When I went to visit my parents I was afraid to park my car for fear that they would steal it. I’ve had two cars stolen already. There were black pimps and prostitutes all over the place. I was outraged. They striped my parents car that they just had body work and a new paint job. I tried to get them to move from there but they were afraid that if they sold their house they wouldn’t get much for it and where would they go. After they both got sick I finally got them to move in with me so I wouldn’t have to worry about them.
But now the border was working it’s way to where I moved to and there where break ins everywhere. My house was the only house not broken into because there was always people there. In East NY, Brooklyn I had to duck bullets.
It didn’t get that bad here yet. The stores were being robbed almost every day. One day I was standing outside with my brother and a friend when 3 guys were walking by carrying a safe. I ran in the store and the guy had blood running down his face. I asked him what happen and he said he got pistol whipped and the guys held a gun to his wife’s head. They ran out with the safe.
Another day a guy got shot right in front of my house and I could see the trail of blood where the guy managed to take himself away.
I just couldn’t take it anymore. I didn’t want to move to any more neighborhood to buy a house to see it overran by these terrorists. So I started looking around in other countries. I was seriously thinking about moving out of this country. At that tome the KKK were just a bunch of old men running around in sheets, until stupid Sharpton and Jesse Jackson started going to place in the south with their followers shouting “How Come There Ain’t No Black People Here”. The we seen the KKK come out surrounded by the young ones saying Think I’ll Join.
At that point and after all I’ve been through and since I wasn’t getting any help from the law, I didn’t care. I said if they allow one then they have to allow the other.
Luckily Juliani became the Mayor and the crime went down.
But there still were some things happening like the schoolgirl who came from China was on the train platform waiting for the next train when a black girl came up to her for no reason except that blacks were against them because they were doing better then them and slashed her face.
Not long ago my step daughter who is Chinese was going to a high school where there are alot of blacks that are bused in and coming from China this was a culture shock to her and even the teach in the school told me that I should take my step daughter out of there.
So my point of all this is although that those guys had bad intentions and I did say “Bad”, What goes around comes around. An this is to the guy that said this ain’t the 60s. You made them what they are with your militants. So what ever you do comes back on you. My advise to you is “Behave Your Self”. The government has secret prison camps all around the country. They already moved a regiment upstate NY. Martial law is already written into the Homeland security act. Any one who rebels for any reason will be put into one of those camps. Our economy is about bust and obviously they know it.
Everyone should in my opinion get behind Ron Paul and restore the constitution
http://www.campaignforliberty.com
on October 29th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
i beleave that to be true
on October 29th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
@ trups:
“Who said AMerica belongs to any one color? America was the land of the free from its conception, wherein people of all walks of life came and started their dreams.”
Are you f*cking serious? Are all Americans born with mass amnesia? Is there no mention in your history textbooks of HOW the United States REALLY came to be? Ask a NATIVE American – whose ancestors were slaughtered and whose land was stolen; ask a African American – whose ancestors where forcefully taken from their homelands, enslaved and killed; ask a Japanese/Chinese American – whose ancestors were interned in concentration camps/subjected to forced labour; ask these peoples if “America” lived up to the principles delineated in its own Constitution.
Quite right that you vilify these hate-filled f*cktard losers, but you demonstrate your own ignorance and gullibility by believing that your country (founded by a group of wealthy white males) has been a beacon for freedom and equality for ALL since its inception. FAR FROM IT. By forgetting/ not acknowledging America’s sins of the past, cowardly, ignorant hate-groups like the one mentioned in this article are are given a chance to develop.
on October 30th, 2008 at 8:28 am
“Henry Berk said,
on October 29th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
These bozos are decoys. The real team is already in place.”
If you’re serious ….LOL @ any idea that says these “bozos” are working with anyone else.
on October 30th, 2008 at 8:29 am
“Johhny Rebel said,
on October 29th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Theese men should not be punished, they should be given a MEDAL. Fuck Obama and his stupid anti gun laws.”
Back in your trailer! The meth is burning! Hurry Johnny!
on October 30th, 2008 at 8:47 am
@ Zoker
Yup, average Joe forgets his heritage. All it takes is one generation or so. A while back, I thought I was being witty and slick, I baited a couple of black folks and american indians to responding to a blog I wrote. I dleiberately made it borderline “ignorant redneckish” to get them flamed up enough to blast me.
I didn’t know just HOW ignorant I sounded. This VERY humbling experience forced me to look at modern racism and oppression. (spell check) After all that, I later spent many hours reserching NAACP and other organizations and what they do. I talked to people that would let me and I did an “about face” on my views.
Keep in mind, I’m a corn fed white boy married to Korean woman. Not racist…Just rather ignorant. Color never mattered to me. Only how I was treated.
So, I came to realize, just because my neighborhood, work place and church are very open and, on the surface, non judgemental to race…. That it still exist in a big way and I needed to re-evaluate my thoughts and feelings.
I no longer think blacks are whiney and lazy, indians get too many hand outs or ALL illegal hispanics/immigrants are sponges on society and the econnomy.
My friend, from Costa Rica, has been in the US since she was 1.5 yrs old. She is now 26. She had to get married to become a citizen as her paper work was bogged down in govt. red tape. She works, pays taxes and is an educated, productive member of society.
My old baseball coach, a 60ish yr old black man who used to play for the Cardinals in the 70′s. This man is can’t find a job and lives on a tiny Social Security pension. He’s old. He’s black. And Unemployed. AMAZING person. So much to offer.
The list goes on. We all have stories. My point here is this. I thought I had it figured out. I was bitter, out spoken and always pissed off. I was an idiot savant. Like many posters here. I was wrong and only hope that any people I hurt can forgive me.
Do more homework. Keep your mouth shut and your eyes open. Listen to other peoples stories. You’ll learn something.
on October 30th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
I DO NOT support racism or racist militant groups. However, all sides need to be looked at. There are racial militant groups all over this Country! To me it’s like an ostrich sticking his head in the sand and leaving his ass in the air to be kicked!
Whites are NOT the only ones looking to exterminate or control another race! Personally, I could care less what color our President is as long as he does his job! It does however concern me that Obama’s church has been linked with Black Militant groups. I went to some of their websites. What is the difference between what these boys did and the comments being made by the black militants? They are talking about race wars, killing Jews & whites. Folks need to remember racism covers ALL races! Why is it that when someone had a mock hanging of Obama it was a hate crime, but when it was done to Palin it was a joke? Hate is Hate…..Racism is racism, it knows no color. I’m by no means a fan of Palin, but right is right! As for the militants that think they have the right to dictate who has the right to live and what religion they should be…….they are standing on AMERICAN soil enjoying the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, etc!
on October 30th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
How many of the old time Klansmen would put up with the adolescent stupidity of these methed out skinheads.?
on November 2nd, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Why post this stuff when it is on mainstream media? Everyone knows about this, how about black on white terribly unreported crimes?? Double standarts? Man, people are you sheeples…I am not trying to defend these skinheads I am just saying, this is bullshit.
on November 2nd, 2008 at 2:44 pm
White nationalist and skinheads are not same thing, people get yourself educated and stop being ignorant. Why no one talks about black panthers or la raza? They are at least as worse.
on November 3rd, 2008 at 9:31 am
Whitehawk,
See your point. Use spell check.
Media doesn’t generate income by writing about La Raza or Black Panthers. If they did write about those two groups it would back fire and some liberal group would scream RACISM! OPRESSION! And a messy legal battle would ensue.
Whatever. Also, after all the racist crap white racist have pulled, we deserve the attention. White racist have done much more damage in the past and we’re still paying for it.
I’m not justifying any of it. Just trying to shed some light on WHY “any color” on white hate crimes will be ignored by media.
on November 4th, 2008 at 1:11 am
I swear to God, if any of these coked-out motherfuckers do anything to Obama, they’d better never leave their house again, because I will track them down and pull a Jack Ruby on their ass…or worse. You think I’m kidding, but if you want to see a REAL angry white person, screw around with this country’s one last chance at being a successful and trusted member of the world community. I’m not afraid of any of you.
on November 4th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
IF DEY DONT GONE WIT DAT WEAK ASS SHYT DEY UGLY DEN A BITCH ….I CANT STAND MCCAIN WORTH SHYT BUT DO DEY SEE MY ASS PLOTIN 2 KILL HIS FUNNY LOOKIN ASS….HELL NAWW BUT I GUESS BUT IT AINT SWEET OUT HERE 4 DEM 2 DO DAT SHYT BEHIND BARS BUT I AINT TRIPPIN CAUSE I EVEN SAID MYSELF DAT WEN OBAMA IS ELECTED SOME RACISTS ASS MUTHAFUCKAS GONE DO EVERYTHING N DEY POWER 2 MAKE SURE HE DONT SEE 1 DAY N THA WHITE HOUSE AS PRESIDENT BUT WHEN DEY DO DAT SHYT DEY GOIN RIGHT 2 HELL WIT DA REST OF DEM WEAK HEARTED BITCHES
on November 5th, 2008 at 3:42 am
Well Whitehawk, nobody talks about the Black Panthers because the New Black Panther Party is a very small group, that was denounced by original Panthers. The original Panthers dedicated most of their time to the indisious activity of feeding poor people, running educational programs and generally doing things the government should have been doing. As for La Raza, what specific group are you referring to?
As for skinheads not being WNs, let me say from experience that not all WNs are skinheads, but the WN movement has never fully severed ties with skinheads, and anyone involved in a WN organization will inevitably interact with skinheads. This is primarily because of the constant demand for numbers.
on November 5th, 2008 at 9:37 am
Asian Maskahdov, poor choice of words there. It is not so much an “insidous” deed to feed the poor and education the unfortunate as it is to preach fear, hate and other ominous activities so common in the WN scene.
As far as this “La Raza” hyperbole is so concerning for the WNs, is nothing short of a mere street gang in very limited cities. Almost non-existent in more than half of all 50 states. According street gangs websearches.
The NCLR however, is a human rights organization served to correct the exaggerated bullshits the WNs aim at the Hispanic American/Latino community. It is something the retarded WNs can’t seem to distingished the two as if they can’t tell a chalk from cheese.
on November 5th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Well….I’m sporting a hangover from celebrating today and all I can really think to say is this:
Two insane white punks are going to prison and an amazing Black guy is preparing to move into the Whitehouse.
And the world feels right.
on November 5th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
The problem with most of us is we are not the kind of trash that feed off racist hate and because of this fact and our common kindness that we are blind, as it is said, ignorance is blind. And when one does not know something, it can be said that we are ignorant.
Being ignorant is not bad, not doing anything about it is.
In short, there will be more stupid useless scum that will do just what these useless scum tried to, why?
Mr. King, Lennon, JFK, Lincoln, ….the list is long folks, we all need to STOP THE TERRORISTS HERE IN THE STATES, we need to pull together and protect our president because if we don’t, who will???
on November 6th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
This Crazy nut cases better get a lot of years. this is not right….people need to grow up and get real. Why do you have to have so much hate in you for…seriously! i thought this stuff was over…cant we all just get along. I go to a all white school and im the only black one there….now i dont even feel safe being there anymore because we have some ignorate white hill billy jokes talking about killing blacks and the president. Cant you depressed, hateful, losers grow up and let us breathe. This is enough we are no different than the whites…and im not just talking about blacks but hispanics,latinos,chinese,mexicans…come on yall we all are people and we deserve to be able to feel safe and not put down because of our skin. Our president is black and we all have been wanting one for the longest but when we do get one everyone wanna go back to the old ways. Give Obama a chance to do what the world needs and stop trying to keep him from doing that….you dont know what this man can do for us unless we give him a chance. please thank you….and my name is Alexis and i am very glad we have Obama as our president and i dont care what you others who disagree with me think.
on November 7th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
With the transition process taking place at the White House, replacing a dying battery with a new, will surely run smoothly. Despite all the lesser forms of inhumanities indentifying themselves as White Supremacists and such.
The trasition is taking place and Obama is wasting no time to getting started on bringing about restoration back to this Nation.
I hope the few and outnumbered White Supremacists will live up to their word by moving out of this Great Nation. We as Americans benifit a lot better without them. Since none of them are productive and respective members of *civil* society.
The strong arm of the law will prevail and enforce Justice and the Rule of Law. To ensure that Freedom and Democracy is not threatened by Domestic Terrorists of the Neo-Con.
Crackdowns on White Supremacists will be vigorous as it will be copious. In the coming days, weeks and months, more and more White Extremists will nabbed, apprehended, slammed into the very gulags were criminals resides.
No Terrorists can destroy Freedom!!
on November 9th, 2008 at 9:14 am
For my own personal reasons I decided to look at your website for the first time. I read most everything and it became clear very quickly how familier I already was with your work and I must say I have been loving it since grade school, keep it up.
I have printed a couple of pages to defend myself against the un-informed I have encountered. I went to your site first and have been so impressed that I will need no further research.
I am just another average White guy married to a minority for 21 great years.
I notified some Law Enforcement about strange activity on the internet 24 hours before this story broke. Then this story broke and it scared me more than anything in my life because of racist’s connections in this Country. I highly doubt it had anything to do with my report but I don’t take chances when it comes to my Family or nuts like these crackpots.
I now will refer some Doctors to your website to prove they need to pay attention before trying to write a prescription from their un-informed mind. I refused because I have read your stuff with respect all my life and yes, I understand what small town docs do not. So much of my refusal was based on reading your work for life.
Keep up the great work. Please understand I am in my early 40s for any time perspectives and THANKS OH SO MUCH for making my morning, GOOD DAY.
on November 9th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Folks, the barrier is broke. Even if Obama has a mediocre presidency, it will HUGE step in the right direction for our country. This will open the door for other ethnic groups to rise in politics.
Fresh ideas… More balanced power… The “Checks and balance” system this country was founded on will strengthen and we’ll be better for it.
I only pray that Obama will back up what he’s promised. He can’t blame congress or senate. They’re all dominated by Dems now.
Quote: John Wayne, “Well, I didn’t vote for him. But, he’s my president and I hope he does a good job.”
Folks, embrace it. If you don’t, the next 4 years will be very long and painful.
to Alexis…. relax hon. You were safe before these two idiots. And you’re safe now.
Conspiracy2riot has the right idea… Celebrate! The longest campaign EVER is finally over!!! lol
No I didn’t vote for Obama… I’m a Mccain supporter. But, 65 million people can’t be ALL wrong.
on November 19th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
i think this is so evil and mean what did obama ever do to you to deserve that in any way and the people that they were going to kil how did they deserev that they are innocent people and just because you guys hate your lives dosent mean that you have to go and ruin others
on November 24th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
I am planning to visit the area in TN near Bells and after reading what I just read I am horrified by what these ignorant, uneducated people are doing….I want to pray for them and hope that they get the psychatric/mental help that they need. Me being a young afro american and raised in CA my whole life I find it hard to believe that when you go to these rual areas there are people who still are following those very ignorant practices. I will be carefull when I visit there and never forget all who have died or been affected by these crimes.
on February 23rd, 2009 at 4:56 am
Just goes to show what kind of ignorant people are being bred in the country. Two words “Chemical Castration”. They should never be allowed to breed.
on February 25th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
main one j-rod lives in kennett mo.
on March 1st, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Hate which is brought to light cannot stand up against those of us who counter act it with understanding, acceptance and tolerance. The warrior and sword will not win if we stand together, shoulder to shoulder against all hate crimes.
on March 3rd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Why is the guy with the glasses wearing lipstick and eye shadow? Does he not realize that defeats his “tough guy” image? Even sporting an assault rifle can’t counteract a dude wearing makeup…
on October 3rd, 2009 at 12:24 am
First of all, don’t pose in front of a Japanese import sedan if you’re White Power.
Second, where the hell do you get the coin for an HK rifle with such a sweet scope?
Nice!
on November 10th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
People should not assume to know all about these two OR their families!! This internet that everyone is using can do a lot of harm! I know for a FACT that one of these boys was NOT raised by racist parents, nor did he have ANY racist relatives! He was raised in a good home, went to a good school, had great family,did not have the racist views always; just got mixed up with the wrong people over the INTERNET. Don’t be too quick to judge; bad stuff can happen to ANYONE
on February 22nd, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Im caucasin and i am proud to say, that there has never been more mixed raced couples in America then now.
If your a bigot then you deserve to be beat no have your life taken bit, defi itley beat.