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U.S. Extremists Banned From Entering the U.K.
The BBC reported today that five American right-wing extremists were among 16 individuals banned from entering the United Kingdom since last October for reasons of “fostering extremism or hatred.”
According to a new report from the Home Office (the lead U.K. government department for immigration and passports), the five Americans and the reasons they were not allowed into the U.K. were:
• Stephen Donald Black, a.k.a. Don Black, former Alabama Klan leader and creator of the white nationalist online forum Stormfront, banned for “promoting serious criminal activity and fostering hatred that might lead to inter-community violence in the UK.”
• Erich Gliebe, chairman of the neo-Nazi National Alliance, for “engaging in unacceptable behaviour by justifying terrorist violence, provoking others to commit serious crime and fostering racial hatred.”
• Fred Phelps, Sr., and Shirley Phelps Roper, leaders of the anti-gay Westboro Baptist Church, for “picket[ing] the funerals of Aids victims and [claiming] the deaths of American soldiers are a punishment for US tolerance of homosexuality.”
• Michael Alan Weiner, a.k.a. Michael Savage, right-wing talk radio host, for “seeking to provoke others to serious criminal acts and fostering hatred.” The Home Office also noted that Savage’s “views on immigration, Islam, rape and autism have caused great offence in the US.”
Other individuals banned from entering the U.K. in the past six months include Muslim extremists, a Jewish militant and two Russian skinhead gang leaders.
on May 5th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Of the above mentioned individuals, the only one that I have any surprise about is Micheal Savage because his “shtick” has finally caught up with him.
Despite the fact that he is always telling the world how smart he is; I have doubted that at times while hearing the bombast & generalities he would broadcast to the public.
Now his “chickens have come home to roost” & he is in the company of Klansman & Nazis for his over simplified views & screaming. When he was interviewed on Bill O’Rielly’s show, he couldn’t see the handwriting on the wall & now Old Testament justice is his…… how fitting.
on May 5th, 2009 at 10:17 am
While we might be obligated under the Constitution to put up with Savage, Phelps, et. al., the rest of the world isn’t. I wonder if Savage/Weiner gets the irony that he is now in the same category as Cat Stevens? This is too funny.
on May 5th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Seems to be a growing HATE movement against “right wing” extremist. Funny how those that preach tolerance are the very ones that have none.
on May 5th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
The BBC’s section of “Have Your Say” is an opportunity to comment on a variety of news stories. They have opened the topic of the banning of U.S. Extremists from the U.K.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/tal.....efault.stm
Have Your Say
The government should only act if people have broken the law
AR Shams, Pakistan
People should be barred because of their views if their aim is to stir up hatred
Claire, London
Should people be barred from the UK?
The names of the people barred from entering the UK have been published. Should they be publicly named?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/tal.....033719.stm
on May 5th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Kudos to the U.K. We should follow suit, keeping such individuals from entering the U.S. if they aren’t citizens. Certainly barring them from obtaining residency. Let them know they’re not welcome, and the ones already here as American citizens are enough of a burden to their nation. There are more than enough decent people who want to live here and contribute.
on May 5th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Why should I have any tolerance for those who spew hatred and who have absolutely no tolerance for anyone who isn’t a white, hetero male? It’s about damn time the spotlight was focused on the right-wing extremists.
on May 5th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
I think the UK is within its rights to exclude those people who make it their career to promote hatred. I also feel that the people listed on this list are exactly the sort of people that should be excluded from other nations.
on May 5th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
I just sent a response to the BBC’s “Have Your Say.” I’ve no idea if it will get posted or not. I wrote something to the effect of “Does this mean you will keep Nick Griffin of the BNP at home?”
on May 5th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
Well, why didn’t they list David Duke up there?
Nevertheless, this is great news, knowing that other civilized societies like the U.K. and the Czech Republic including a host of other countries that are doing their part to show these neo-Nazis scum that they too, will not tolerate neo-Nazism/racist extremists-the instigators of violence(skinheads & such).
I would like to see more names added to their list. Famous names like Lou Dobbs, Jeff Schoep, Chris Simcox and so on. And speaking of nonwhites, they should ban nonwhite extremists like Michelle Malkin and Upstien. And Anna Gaines and Al Rodriquez of “You Don’t Speak 4 Me”. Folks like these who are traitorious to their own brothers and sisters of the same race. And that’s what I don’t tolerate. The dark skinned white supremacists!
on May 6th, 2009 at 9:07 am
They really shouldn’t be tolerated, especially when they try to spread that hate internationally. But I guess if banning is too “intolerant” for the David Duke fans among us, then the tried-and-true public ridicule should work out nicely for them. The immature deserve it!
on May 6th, 2009 at 9:24 am
I also forget to note that the U.K’s banishment of U.S. extremists isn’t so much as biased as some loony of the fringed right would love to believe. Because on that list is also a “Jewish militant” and “Muslims extremists”. Maybe to make a couple of white supremacists happy, they could put the leader of the New Black Panther Party(whatever his name is) on that list. Since I don’t care about “Black supremacy” as the whites call it.
on May 6th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Indeed, these folks really have two choices: Be banned, or outlawed, and thus keep your beliefs private and under wraps, or be publicly humiliated. Of course the latter doesn’t always work because a great number of WN celebrities and leaders have no sense of shame. Without that, humiliation is impossible.
I am a bit surprised by the addition of Erich Gliebe to the list- I would be surprised if the guy could afford a plane ticket to the UK.
on May 6th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
You know, if censorious flaming libby-lefty extremists like you folks ever seize the reins of power here in this country, the war’s on. Thank God more level-headed liberals keep you all at bay. So far, anyway.
on May 6th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Snaggled-tooth,
Obviously, you might be dentally challenged. But you are sadly mistaken. You should be directing your rage towards the Republicans and the neo-Cons. After all, it is evident that more Americans like you, die under a Republican presidency that any other political party present. But that probably doesn’t matter to you, given your puny comment about starting wars with everyone. I guess this is why the whites will be a minority in the U.S. by 2040? Its probably based on one fact that your Republican party just love to wage wars with people, huh.
on May 6th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Labour is attempting to eek out any possible advantage before Cameron boots them out of power. Their intolerance is making them look as guilty as those who spew hate.
In America the rule of law is Free Speech. Freedom is the bedrock of the constitution and is why the early Brits left to start a “new world”…remember?
on May 6th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
I wouldn’t let anyone of the fools near my house or kids… let the morons talk their shit @ some vfw in the middle of nowhere.
on May 7th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Uh, Ryan the non-Aryan:
My rage is directed equally towards the GOP (a party to which I do not belong), the neocons AND the liberal-left.
And we’re not going to let the latter destroy free speech in this country, white majority or no.
Hope that helps.
on May 7th, 2009 at 10:11 am
No, that doesn’t help, snaggled-toothed. What really could be helpful, if that more European countries, including Australia, South Africa and Canada could follow the U.K’s lead in banishing white extremists. This way, it will silence your hate or at least limited it, to a point where your influence is minimal. And it seems to be paying off, considering the fact that we now have a Black president and there is really nothing you can do about that other than to whine like little sissy-girls. And as for Free Speech, nonwhites are entitled to the same benefits. You’re not that special, but a nuisance about it, though.
And sadly for you, I’m not a Democrat. When your attacking the “Liberals”, you’re basically attacking the white guy sitting next to me, your beady-eyes are on him and not me. That’s how I see it, as a non-Democrat/non-Liberal. So personally speaking, I’m not all that appalled at what you say.
on May 7th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Wow, why I am not surprised at all to see the SPLC cheering for the death of free speech in America? Your support for censorship of nonviolent men and women is not just un-American it is Anti-American.
Americans of all races and creeds should oppose your anti-American support for the abridgment of constitutional rights for American citizens and talk show hosts.
on May 7th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Finally Michael Savage (nee Weiner) is getting his just medicine and it’s pretty bitter. When you hate and promote and foster racism and ugliness in society, it will always come back to hurt you and others. Yes, Michelle Malkin, a filipina, should not be spewing anti-immigrant rants esp when her parents were given ample opportunity to live as true Americans and not add fire to the fuel…Michelle you ARE asian and there is NO doubt about it…so accept it, WE are ALL Americans whether you accept it or not…esp the Native population.
on May 7th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Ummmm……What about “FREEDOM OF SPEECH”???
on May 7th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
When I want to see people who spew hate I visit SPLC and read the comments to the “stories” that they choose to draw attention to. Talk about intolerance and hate speech!
The UK needs to clean up it’s own back yard before they point fingers.
Soon the UK will have to allow sharia law if the EU has it’s way, which it will.
on May 7th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Lou Dobbs?? You can’t be serious! He’s one of the few balanced, fair, intelligent, well-read and rational reporters in the media!
How about:
Louis Farrakhan
Rashid Khalidi
Cynthia McKinney
Michael Pfleger
Bill Ayers
Abdul Alim Muhammad
Lynne Stewart
Malik Zulu Shabazz
Norm Finkelstein
Al Sharpton
and countless others??
on May 7th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Uh Snaggle, you do know that the UK is a different country right? I know they have been easily confused during Blair’s administration, but technically it is independent of the US.
on May 7th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
It made my day when I found out that that bum Savage/Weiner hater made the banned list. This guy spits out his hatred EVERYDAY like that Severino guy in Boston. I urge everyone to email the United Kingdom’s Home Office to congraulate them on their blessed action. I did it, YOU(lovers of freedom) should too!
on May 7th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Carter, you’re funny … it’s clear that the only reason you hate Dr. Savage is that his IQ is about 100 points higher than yours.
on May 7th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
The government of the United Kingdom is evidently made up of very wise people. I so WISH someone would take these domestic terrorists off our hands but no existing government would be that ignorant. If only there were time machines to send them to Berlin in the 1930s. They’d be sooooo happy!! Or to the Jim Crowe south. It would be heaven to them.
on May 7th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
I like seeing the “free speech” excuses here. You know, I’ll bet none of you said a word when Snoop Dogg was banned from the UK.
This is something I’ve learned from reading posts by obvious racists here: anyone who hides behind the free speech banner is likely a free speech abuser.
Think of it like the mentality of a domestic abuser; they won’t let anyone so much as look at their wife, but they’ll beat the hell out of her anytime they want to.
They’ll abuse the hell out of free speech by calling for the censure–and ignoring the censure thereof–of liberals and democratics. But don’t even think about limiting their rights, or it’s “revolution” and “war”!
on May 7th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
” could follow the U.K’s lead in banishing white extremists” – more racist hate. There are black extremist groups too, but you don’t hear cries to ban them do you?
“considering the fact that we now have a Black president” – No, he is bi-racial. Obama disowned his white half for political gain – and it worked. Again, racial hate from the left that exalts his black half and never mentions his white half.
“other than to whine like little sissy-girls” – the reality is those that want to ban some group (as the UK is doing) because of their beliefs and what they say are the sissy-girls, or should I say the sissy transvestites?
The liberals and their organizations like the ACLU cry for civil liberties, but the truth is they are the first that want to shut down the civil liberties of those that don’t think the way they do.
on May 7th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
#
“Miriam Aguilar said,”
“on May 7th, 2009 at 12:34 pm”
“…Yes, Michelle Malkin, a filipina, should not be spewing anti-immigrant rants esp when her parents were given ample opportunity to live as true Americans…”
Hi Miriam,
I appreciate this portion of your posting. Malkin’s parents obviously are of another generation. However, for the sake of argument, please consider that the scorn for people who aren’t well – heeled was normalized by the Reagan administration. It underwent perfection by the George W. Bush administration. What I’m saying is that I think if Malkin’s parents were of Michelle’s generation – present time – and aspiring to live in the U.S., I don’t think they currently would find ample opportunities to live as yesteryear’s true Americans.They would suddenly be faced with the American Patriot Act, the financial depression (my opinion) and the Help America Vote Act which I like to call “The Hinder America Vote Act.” I’m particularly concerned about FEASIBLE monetary and social access for persons who wish to learn English who get criticized like crazy with comments like “they don’t even want to learn English.” There has been some press lately, that many people here – across a financial spectrum, are growing more socially isolated due to lots of different kinds of pressures as well as choices (for some).
on May 8th, 2009 at 12:16 am
The Savage Weener; this comes as no surprise. What continues to amaze me is that he stays on the air while making blatantly hateful statements yet Imus (whom I’m not defending here) says something vaguely racist in comparison and is drummed off the air. Weener should get it a hundred times as bad.
on May 8th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Obama “disowned his white half for political gain”? Was there some kind of ceremony?
Quick question to anyone who is so concerned with pointing out that Obama is half-white: If a man who looked precisely like Barack Obama made off with your car, would you be sure to tell the police, and everyone you told about the event, that the suspect was most likely half-white? I doubt it.
on May 8th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Ruslan Amirkhanov: Obama has stolen far more than people’s cars, and that’s just in his first 100 days.
on May 8th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
I think I will live out the rest of my life in the UK
on May 9th, 2009 at 1:52 am
Please list the things he has stolen. It is obvious he hasn’t taken any cars, so that’s one bizarre lie.
on May 9th, 2009 at 5:08 am
I understand that Michael Savage(nee Weiner- what an appropriate name!) is going to sue Home Secretary Jacquie Smith for defamation. Critics who protest the banning of the 16 on “free speech grounds” ignore the fact that the US banned alleged Communist sympathisers from entry during the Cold War and has prohibited alleged terrorist supporters such as academic Tariq Ramadan- nobody has a RIGHT to be allowed entry to an country other than their own!
on May 10th, 2009 at 9:26 am
“Obama has stolen far more than people’s cars. And that’s just his first 100 days.”
Hahahaha….
The white man has stolen far more than what Obama has stolen(whatever that is). And they have been thievin’ off of what was Native owned for the past 500 years.
on May 10th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
No, that doesn’t help, snaggled-toothed. What really could be helpful, if that more European countries, including Australia, South Africa and Canada could follow the U.K’s lead in banishing white extremists.
Ryan: Zzzzzz.
Hope that helps,
on May 10th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
I’m also incredibly curious at to what, exactly, President Obama has allegedly stolen. I’m delighted he’s president. I don’t need someone like McCain (or Palin) trying to control my uterus, nor do I want some wildlife-hating whacko like Palin anywhere near what’s left of the countries’ wildlife. But that’s just me.
on May 10th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
I’d also love to point out that this has gone from discussing the topic at hand ~ the wisdom (and freedom) of the United Kingdom in refusing to allow people entry to their country to bashing the president. Hmmm.
It should be noted that the UK only restricted entry to these people because they applied for it. There isn’t a master list…
on May 11th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
“Zzzzzz”–Snaggled-tooth
You’re exactly why Americans want nothing to do with you and your ilk.
You exemply a bona fide candidate for a lazy inbreed. If I can choose between you and an illegal alien, I pick the other. Since, you harbor nothing but a nuisance. You know, like a societal parasite. How’s that can of whoop ass btw? Lol.
on May 11th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Much of what is written above is offensive to me. Should you people be placed on a banned list because you offended me? Polite speech does not need the protection of the constitution. Truthful speech is frequently offensive to at least one person. I may not agree with you but I’ll fight to the death for your right to express yourself.
on May 11th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Rogolio 5/7/09—-Could you explain how placing a person on a banned list because of offensive speech is part of being a “lover of freedom”? The logic and reasoning baffles me. You are an example of why the phrase ‘Liberalism is a mental disorder’ came about.
on May 12th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
These individuals are not banned from entering the U.K. because of some isolated “offensive speech” incidents. They are militant, neo-Nazi activists. Likely entering the country to coordinate their mental illness without borders effort.
on May 12th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Larry, the UK is not subject to the laws of the United States, nor its constitution. Plus, even in the United States there are regulations against speech. You are an example of why the phrase “conservatives are retards” came about.
on May 12th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
What is it, exactly, that those who wish to squelch free speech are afraid of? If someone’s opinion is so off base that you think it repugnant, why would you want to silence them? Wouldn’t it be better to let them speak out clearly and loudly for all to hear? Is it that you’re afraid that they may have much logic and relevance in their opinions, and you’re afraid others might discover that resonance? That seems pretty cowardly.
I have no fear of anything anyone has to say. Why do you fear it so?
on May 12th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Ruslan, I am well aware the UK is not subject to the laws of the USA & its constitution. I never hinted it was. I am well aware that the USA has some regulations concerning speech. I believe (with a few rare exceptions), in the freedom of speech. Freedom of speech also includes the freedom of possibly offend. The UK would not be in such the mess it is in if it’s people could speak out more freely. The Founding Fathers of the USA and Winston Churchill of the UK would all be jailed and/or fined if they lived under the laws the UK presently has. THE TRUTH HAS NOTHING TO FEAR FROM FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
Dr. Savage is offensive to me at times. I have enjoyed the freedom to turn his radio show off numerous times. I enjoy the freedom to listen to him if I choose. This “conservative retard” has a degree in sociology and was a school teacher. He also has master degrees in anthropology and ethnobotany from the university of Hawaii. He received his Ph.D in nutritional ethnomedicine from the University of California-Berkeley in 1978. I personally have two college degrees and a professional license. So much for ‘conservatives are retards’.
I have been involved with SPLC for many years. I am an independent—liberal on some issues and conservative on others.
on May 12th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
AP—You called Dr. Savage a “militant neo-Nazi activist”. Would you please give me some specific examples. Since he was born into a Russian Jewish family, I have serious doubts that he is what you called him. But then again, I just a “conservative retard”. Please enlighten me.
on May 13th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Lee, there is a huge difference between free speech and hate speech. I’m all for free speech in any country. Hate speech, no. Words can be just as violent as blows when coming from someone who is trained to weild them that way.
on May 13th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Freedom of speech does not mean that you are free from the consequences of what you say, any more than the freedom to bear arms means that I am free from the consequences if my gun is left unsecured and a child ends up playing with it and killing himself. Does freedom of speech mean you can yell “FIRE!” in a crowded movie house?
NO freedom is ever absolute.
Savage and the rest of his ilk are just now being faced with the consequences of what they have said in the past, and I predict there is more yet to come.
on May 13th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Well Larry I’ll have you know that I have a Ph.d in Retardology so I am fairly skilled in recognizing one when I see it. Half of your posts is boasting about degrees, the rest is simply logical fallacy. Apparently all that time you spent studying did not include basic critical thinking.
on May 13th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
I wasn’t referencing Michael Savage, nor did I call you a “conservative retard”. So please don’t challenge me with the logical fallacy of something I didn’t say or something someone else said.
However, in addressing the person you mention, I can understand, upon reading about Savage (because I have never listened to him on the radio, nor am I interested), why the U.K. would bar his entrance. They are a different country, under different circumstances than the U.S. Would you suggest the same laws regarding speech for, say, Germany? Don’t you think they had the right (and a great measure of wisdom) in imposing the laws they did? Our Constitution was chosen by our people and our country, to suit our nation and our times. It’s interpreted and reinterpreted by courts over hundreds of years, now. With still much dispute about its meaning, let alone, bringing other countries into it now.
on May 29th, 2009 at 11:07 am
I’m always amazed when Americans try to *judge* how another nation should conduct its society or laws.
Typical American hubris to assume that how Americans would do *anything* should mandate how the World’s peoples must conduct their behaviours.
“American Exceptionalism” indeed.
Some might crow that ‘ha! they had it coming!’
Myself, I’m always saddened when the crazy assholes are silenced – mainly because it lets them fester in private, rather than in public where we can mock & demonstrate how ugly they think…
but then, British society is *much* older, much more communal & has a mutually supportive, deeper culture emphasizing a socially respectful heritage. American culture is about media self-promotion, advertising & ‘in your face’ disrespect.
That the British would be tired of the drumbeat of American media pushing these values into their society?
…priceless.
on May 30th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Not sure why Weiner was singled out. I don’t see him as being much more hateful than Limbaugh or some other right-wing radio talk show hosts. There is hate in his rhetoric for sure but seems a little hypocritical to include him and leave others out. Maybe his gritty shock value approach was more effective then he intended.
on June 1st, 2009 at 11:59 am
Weiner was added to this list because he tried to enter the UK. The only people on this list are people that actually tried to enter the UK and were denied access. If you read the original storie, you should have gotten that.