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Veterans Against Jihad Takes on ‘Threat’ of Shariah Law
The latest fairy tale to emerge from the paranoid right is the idea that the United States legal system is haunted by the specter of Shariah law. Although strict Islamic legal codes are the rare exception even among Muslim-majority nations, anti-Muslim groups and individuals — including well-known politicians like Newt Gingrich — are now warning with straight faces that mullahs could soon be caning American schoolchildren if they get caught chewing gum.
Among the groups decrying this make-believe threat, a relatively new organization called Veterans Against Jihad (VAJ) seems particularly well positioned to benefit from the current Shariah hysteria. Founded last spring by two retired Marine Corps veterans, the goal of VAJ is to “to encourage Veterans to more actively respond to challenges threatening our Constitution [and] awaken American Citizens to Islam’s Jihadist religious mandate, which dictates the teaching of Shari’ah law, and how Shari’ah Law will impact our way of life.”
Toward this end, the group is asking all veterans to “renew and retake The Oath of Enlistment, reaffirming their loyalty to our Constitution, our Country and it’s [sic] citizens.” But the VAJ’s understanding of that loyalty is an unusual one; its manifesto specifies the kinds of orders its members can respect as well as what sort of authority it deems legitimate. The VAJ code promises only to cooperate with those officials “legally enforcing, and/or preserving our nation’s security.” Judging from the VAJ site, it is clear the group does not consider that the current Democratic White House fits the bill.
The VAJ’s distaste for religiously flavored law, however, is selective. Among the far-right groups and individuals linked to on its site is Reclaim America for Christ, which is on a mission to “educate our pastors, legislators, educators, students and all citizens as to the truth about America’s Christian Heritage and the role of fundamental, Biblical Christianity in the establishment and function of our legal, legislative and educational systems.”
While the VAJ works to protect America from Allah and reclaim it for Christ, it sees the menace of Shariah everywhere, including law firms that offer consultations on the (private) intricacies of Islamic estate planning. But as this article in the New Jersey Jewish News notes (referenced in this Eugene Robinson column), there has in the entire history of the republic been only one instance of an actual crime (domestic abuse) being forgiven by a U.S. judge on grounds of “Islamic practices” — and this ruling was swiftly overturned by another judge.
“Talk of Shariah law taking root in our country is just a way of stirring up nativist fears,” said Richard Cohen, president of the Southern Poverty Law Center. “It would require throwing out the entire Constitution, including the Bill of Rights. Obviously, no such effort would have the remotest chance of success.”
on October 1st, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Isn’t #9 on their “Our platform/Where we stand” list cute.
9- Profile all Muslim Airline passengers who will in advance, prove the legitimacy of their travel.
on October 1st, 2010 at 7:03 pm
VAJ? They’re naming their group after a nickname for vagina and we’re supposed to take them seriously? You would think after the Tea Party forgot to Google “Tea Bagger” groups would do a little research before naming themselves.
on October 1st, 2010 at 9:43 pm
They actually call themselves using the abbreviation VAJ? Ohhh….kaaaay.
on October 2nd, 2010 at 1:07 am
Ok I’m not going to do the banal thing and point out that their acronym is VAJ(how apt though). The thing is these morons are part of the same group of political illiterates who assert that the Founders(AKA the people about whom they often talk about but never research) never intended a wall between church and state, and that our laws are based on the Ten Commandments or some other such nonsense(HINT: They’re not).
Then again, these are people who are practically defined by their inability to recognize internal conflicts in their logic.
on October 2nd, 2010 at 9:16 am
“strict Islamic legal codes are the rare exception even among Muslim-majority nations”
Right off the top of my head, I can already think of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran, Afghanistan, Sudan, Somalia, Pakistan, and Yemen. Not nearly a rare exception as this “article” would try to lead on. Plus, a number of Islamic countries, such as Turkey and some former Soviet “-stans”, are lurching towards Sharia.
on October 2nd, 2010 at 11:58 am
Hey I didn’t want to come off like I was insulting the other posters for noting their acronym’s connotations. When I posted I could only see the first comment.
on October 2nd, 2010 at 12:10 pm
The article suggest vets. to recommit to support their Country as if we had as, vets ever lost our commitment. We all have a roll to preserve our homeland. I am just disappointed in how things are going. If a young man volunteers to serve his Country in a phony war that you are instinctively aware of and don’t want to harm other innocent people. You have no choice. Period. When you volunteer during wartime. You are in for the duration of the War. The present two wars we are currently fighting have been raging for 10 years, with no end in sight and you keep getting deployed endlessly. If, you want to do something else in your life? You’re stuck! So, its up to released veterans to carry the banner for just rights, as prescribed by the tenets of the Constitution
on October 3rd, 2010 at 1:15 am
Ruslan, Mason, Snorlax,
I found this interesting article, reportedly a reprint from the Wall Street Journal Oct. 20, 1947 discussing the difference/similarities Fascism and Communism – talks about the Soviet Union’s Volga Germans, the Crimean Tartars, the Kalmyks…. in the story called “From the Vaults: Wall Street Journal, October 20, 1947 http://hurryupharry.org/2010/1.....r-20-1947/ tell me what you think about the section ‘eight similarities’ and if this what is happening here? Thanks.
on October 3rd, 2010 at 2:17 pm
The Wall Street Journal, as a mouthpiece for bourgeoisie apologists the world over, has ample reason to equate Communism with Fascism. Capitalist apologists(ever so forgetful of the class content of fascist regimes) have been doing this for decades. Essentially they take superficial commonalities and proclaim the two systems to be the same. As Michael Parenti wrote- the workers knew the difference easily.
What happened to the Crimean Tatars, Volga Germans, etc. was unfortunate but it happened in the context of a war for the very survival of all peoples West of the Urals, and that would have included Crimean Tatars themselves, among other ethnic groups. Unlike Nazi Germany, the Soviets did not seek to exterminate these people.
on October 3rd, 2010 at 11:15 pm
tell me what you think about the section ‘eight similarities’ and if this what is happening here? Thanks.
Lies authored by a reactionary Trotskyist-Titoist revisionist nonsense spreader, the scribblings of an obviously deranged authoritarian personality quite like the clueless crypto-fascist Orwell. The piece in question reeks of sentimentality for Western colonialism. Such trash would be laughed at in orthodox anti-revisionist Hoxist circles, if it wasn’t so dangerous,. Such reactionary works degrade society, degrade the face of labor, and lead to a path of capitalist eliminationism and hate.
on October 4th, 2010 at 7:37 am
The article is rather laughable. For one thing, the US has relied heavily on slave labor, one might argue that it still does(from abroad). And a willingness to involve itself in foreign intrigues? That could easily describe the US or any capitalist power. It also implies that foreign powers did not commit intrigues in the USSR which is laughable- they did so from 1917 onward.
Don’t think he’s a Trot though, he’s a die-hard capitalist apologist.
on October 4th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Ruslan,
Thanks! I agree! I did laugh actually! I also thought it was rather interesting, because I see some of those same things happening here in the states right now, i.e. trying to silence people, and, as you’ve mentioned the slave labor.
I really appreciate and value your input. I also think we (u.s.) is repeating history. Moreso with talk of re-education, and talks of eliminating social programs/benefits.
on October 4th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Isn’t Capital punishment a part of Sharia law? See we’re there already!
on October 4th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Ruslan,
**meant to say, I also think we are repeating history. When I talked of silencing people, I believe it is the bullying and rhetoric. Then I also look at how we have (u.s.) acted in a manner that we are above everyone else, as the article mentions. And lastly, I think, I can say this refers to the wars we have engaged in the last 10 years.
on October 4th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Groups like this are a far greater threat than Ban Laden could ever dream of being.I also worry about what some of these fanatics might be doing in Iraq and Afganistan.
on October 4th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Hate and unnecessary domination fail over and over. Perhaps the best way to curb any ‘lurching’ toward sharia law would be to put before the people a modern alternative that has a short name and simple basic principles at its roots. Round up the moderates Muslims and lets see what comes out (well grounded in reality’s full ways) from such a endeavor. Educated humans will not stand for oppression to persist anymore than they have to.
on October 5th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
Wow! Let me see If I have this right, A group called VAJ takes a stand on Sharia law, and you respondents to the article want to aver to the vagina, the Crimean War, Trotsky and other Alinsky style diversions? Yet no one has asked questions to their point or focus. Could it be that no one knows their point because they have the ‘collective head in the sand’ syndrom? Just asking?
on October 6th, 2010 at 4:02 am
Indeed, we were sent by Alinsky himself! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!
on October 6th, 2010 at 4:24 am
I would think that SPLC would be more concerned with what’s between one’s ears not one’s legs.
on October 6th, 2010 at 7:56 am
Sharia law entered Europe after WWII when the weakened European nations retracted from their colonies, bringing to Europe their former colonial subjects as both refugees and cheap labor from such Muslim nations as Pakistan (UK), Turkey (Germany) and Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia (France).
Initially, Sharia law was applied discretely within the small Muslim communities of Europe. But after two generations of high birth rate and immigration, those communities have grown to where the Sharia law now challenges the Judeo-Christian foundations of their host European nations.
It’s a reality in Europe so why wouldn’t Islam have its sights set on the USA as well, especially after 911 where Islamic terrorists were blamed for crimes perpetrated by sections within the US.
on October 6th, 2010 at 8:08 am
Do some Americans really believe that Bin Laden had anything to do with the so called attack on 911?
For God’s sake he and his family are friends of the Bush family, the closest link he may have had was to agree to cop the role of the patsy but that’s as far as it went.
Surely by now with all the information around most thinking citizens would have realized that the crime was perpetrated by the secret empire that operates separately from the US administration while still having a couple of insiders here and there to keep things going their way. Just as the Oklahoma bombing was a false flag operation so was 911,..wake up people, the whole world is watching the US people and hoping that they awaken from their slumber. They’ve been conditioned to believe anything their rulers want them to. Governments cannot be trusted they must be controlled by the people, not the other way around.
on October 6th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Sharia law doesn’t exist in Europe, sorry.
on October 6th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Wow Felix, you sure are smarter than the rest of us, who could never live up to your standards of Youtube scholarship!!! Surely you are part of an exclusive and small group of people that understands what’s REALLY going on!!! Do not waste time with us sheeple.
on October 7th, 2010 at 11:22 am
DECRY means “To condemn openly”. This group is NOT condemning the stupidityof the the opinion about Sharia law but is actually supporting this point of view.s organization.
on October 7th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Zaitchik’s article lists another of the ever-increasing groups and people who are so right-wing and radical that it is absolutely scary. Can what happened in Germany with Nazis and in Russia Bolshevics, political movements at extreme ends, really happen here? Can these hate groups and their misinformed become a serious political movement that will threaten us all? I would like to think not, but may the Father above help us if they do.
on October 7th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
The State Department under Bush started a course on Sharia Finance for its employees in 2008.
The enlistment oath compels defense against domestic enemies as well as foriegn. Jihadists would be both.
Useful idiots will assist jihadists until they lose their heads. The VAJ is a very good idea. Where do I sign up?
on October 7th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
First off: Europe and it’s Various countries do not have OUR Constitution and Bill of Rights that now and forever will prevent Sharia Law or Biblical Law or any other religious dogma from EVER being OUR law as long as that Constitution and Bill of Rights stand as the LAW of the land in the U.S.
Secondly: I am a Veteran with Honorable Discharges from TWO enlistments and these VAJ characters ALMOST make me ashamed to be a Veteran and they ARE an embarrassment to myself and all the veterans that I know. We, for the most part, tend to be better educated and far more sensible than these ‘Einsteins’ would lead you to believe.
I really cannot fathom how they would want to endanger todays troops by spewing this vitriol for our enemies to exploit at the cost of our soldiers lives.
In my humble opinion they are traitors.
on October 7th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Let’s hear it for Sharia Law….just think of the fun we can have messin’ with ex-offenders and all the draconian laws we can prod the mis (dis) informed populus into screaming for!
on October 7th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Good grief I’m stunned how all over the map this discussion is
from Sharia law will eventually take over the world to Bin Laden is a patsy. Oy vey settle down this is about a group of people who for whatever reason can’t see that the law they want Biblical, is about the same as what they don’t want Sharia.
Felix should read Tea With Hezbollah to find out what the Bin Laden family really thinks of their distaff brother.
on October 7th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
If those who can read and understand,these laws state that any one who does not follow Islam should be killed.This undermines the bases of our country.FREEDOM! This is already taking place,with the removal of any and all pork products in FL.D.O.C.And in that a simple childrens story of The Three Little Pigs being revised to the Three Little Puppies in England.I am for freedom for all,but don”t think fore one moment that our pledge to defend our country against foreign and domestic enemies was laid down when we ended our enlistment.If you would read the Quran you would see it says,to lie,cheat,kill,or any means to spread ISLAM,and it is better to shed blood fore ISLAM, than to pray.So don”t think fore one moment that those of us whom have looked into these matters,and know that all forms of ISLAM has but one purpose, to spread SHARIA LAW throughout the world.I for one say if our way of belief is not your bag,OKAY.But go to far and try to push your way on me and you will lose! Have a good day.
on October 7th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
The so called “911-Truth” campaign has been so completely discredited & proven to be WRONG in so many areas, it’s no longer worth the time to point out the falsehoods….. IF anyone cares any longer or has any doubts, simply Google rebuttals from the [Explosives] Engineering community – which was so completely sickened by the paranoia & misleading statements; they reacted w/ the scientific community to refute the claims of those who simply refuse to face facts! ….ENOUGH of this foolishness!
on October 7th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
When the Muslims get ONE case to be decided with sharia law, then others will follow. There man liberal judges just waiting for the chance. I hope that the first case will be one of the poo pooers who doubt it will ever happen. Remember, it was said that a black man will never be President, and now you got one.
on October 7th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Dick, did it ever occur to you that the State Department created this course because the State Department deals with foreign countries, a few of which operate under Sharia law in regards to finance? Don’t you think it would be important for the US State Department employees who work in say, Saudi Arabia, to understand how Islamic finance(particularly in regards to credit) works?
You just confirm my opinion that conservatives are genuinely fearful people, afraid of everything and always wanting some big military man to protect you. Hell, you people are afraid of ACORN.
on October 7th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
From all the comments on this website. No one can question the leftiness of this organization and adherents.
Needless to say. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.
However. I see a simisster plot unfolding as with diversificatopn of Ameicans. Unfortunately and sadly. Our founding fathers weren’t alway the saintly leaders that we are supposed to believed, by conservative and liberal propaganists. I do applaud SPLC on monitoring hate groups,. Sadly. We are seeing go down into the depths of deepravities each and every day. Christians are being bashed by the left, while liberals are hunky dorky with anyone who happens to be anything but Christian.
Unfortunately too many Christians have hide under the cloak of cowardice. Sure the fundamentalists are great about beating their chests when they want to scream about same sex and bur are conspiciously quiet when it comes to interracial and interfaith marriages and relationships.They won’t even let the people decide in any state to ban or legalize mix marriages. Wow! What a world we live in! It must be wonderful. The thought of Muslins and thir liberal consortiums say it is okay to build a Muslin community center or Park 51, but at the same the liberals would be in an uproad if someone decides to build a shrine in honoring of Adolph Hitler in Triblanca nazi concentration camp or any other concontration camps in Poland.
on October 7th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Ruslan: on October 6th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Sharia law doesn’t exist in Europe, sorry
I am afraid you are very very wrong my friend. There are right now today sharia courts in the UK. Google sharia courts – UK, and you will find all the bloody details.
But, you will say, just for marriage and divorce and business disputes. And, I will say, that is how it all starts, one little piece at a time. Before you know it, you have the whole shebang.
Ruslan it must really tick you off, these damned uppity infidels and their internet!. The facts are plain to see for anyone with open eyes, so sorry.
on October 7th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
You can get more information on the VAJ at VAJonline.org
As for those of you that are still talking about old world theories and how you fear the right wing is taking over the universe, it’s not the right you should be alarmed about. It’s the creeping invasion of sharia law on our constitution as Dearborn MI has encountered and communities throughout the country are encountering. Take a moment away from your other thinking and find out more about the menace sharia poses to our republic. It’s not about politics anymore, it’s about our nations future.
on October 7th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
I wonder what the SPLC will think about this:
85 sharia courts in UK, says report (30)
Press Association, Monday June 29 2009 There are as many as 85 sharia courts operating in Britain, according to a new report.
Academic Denis MacEoin, the report’s author, said the existence of the courts practising Islamic law could lead to different legal standards being applied to Muslim and non-Muslim citizens.
He said many of the courts operate out of mosques and their rulings are closed off to non-Muslims.
In previous reports it was claimed there were only five sharia courts in the UK, working in London, Manchester, Bradford, Birmingham and Nuneaton.
He said: “This is not a matter of eating halal meat or seeking God’s blessing on one’s marriage. It is a challenge to what we believe to be the rights and freedoms of the individual, to our concept of a legal system based on what parliament enacts, and to the right of all of us to live in a society as free as possible from ethnic-religious division or communal claims to superiority and a special status that puts them in some respects above the law to which we are all bound.”
on October 7th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Some may not agree with who or how the message is conveyed. However the issue is not how or who conveys the message, but the message itself.
Does the message have merit? does it warrent further research? I submit that it does. However, make your own assessment
Make no mistake, the threat is real and the proof is unfolding in Europe. Lets do the research instead of wasting valuable talent trying to exchange ego inspired comments.
Please. read “Shari’ ah The Threat To America” It’s on line.
on October 7th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
@ oneofthem “Wow! Let me see If I have this right, A group called VAJ takes a stand on Sharia law, and you respondents to the article want to aver to the vagina, the Crimean War, Trotsky and other Alinsky style diversions?”
Taking a stand on something that isn’t an issue is meaningless.
Sharia law courts exist in the UK, to what should be the shame of that government. Tribal customs should not replace law of the land, & establishing this precedent in the UK means that the rights of Muslim women have again been undermined.
HOWEVER: Sharia law, as someone else pointed out, cannot in toto replace the existing systems in the UK or the US, or Australia, without completely abolishing the rule of law. That is EXTREMELY unlikely.
Just don’t give up that first toehold – don’t allow domestic abuse, female circumcision, “honour” killings, forced marriages, etc on the basis of “cultural norms”.
on October 8th, 2010 at 12:49 am
Well Stouch, the fact that these courts(which likely have no bearing on UK law) exist only for marriage and divorce, as well as contracts, does not automatically mean that Sharia law is going to take over the UK. You are committing a slippery slope fallacy here. In fact for Orthodox Jews there are similar bodies which regulate marriage and divorce. I don’t see anyone suggesting that Jews are going to take over….oh wait, ok I DO see a lot of people suggesting that but the point is far fewer people believe that nonsense.
You might also be disturbed to find out that I am an atheist, not a Muslim, and on principle I would be just as opposed to Sharia law as I would any other religious involvement in public affairs. So you’ll have to live out your Crusade fantasy on some other site.
on October 8th, 2010 at 12:53 am
” We are seeing go down into the depths of deepravities each and every day. Christians are being bashed by the left, while liberals are hunky dorky with anyone who happens to be anything but Christian.”
Nonsense, absolute nonsense. Christians have been taking flak for their increasing demand to be involved in politics and dominate the laws of the land. This is why it is hypocritical for such people to complain about Sharia law taking over America while every Supreme Court Justice confirmation hearing revolves around issues like abortion.
“Unfortunately too many Christians have hide under the cloak of cowardice.”
Uh yeah, sure. Last time I checked they were extremely vocal for decades. I grew up in the evangelical movement and I am familiar with their persecution fantasy. Basically when people resist their preaching or oppose their attempts to push their agenda in the schools or government, they cry persecution.
“The thought of Muslins and thir liberal consortiums say it is okay to build a Muslin community center or Park 51, but at the same the liberals would be in an uproad if someone decides to build a shrine in honoring of Adolph Hitler in Triblanca nazi concentration camp or any other concontration camps in Poland.”
So you are comparing all Muslims to Hitler, interesting.
on October 8th, 2010 at 1:03 am
Oh one more thing Whitehurst. It looks like you need some help making proper analogies. If we want to compare a monument to Hitler at Treblinka properly we would have to believe that the owners of Park 51 are building a monument to Bin Laden, or Mohammed Atta et al. In other words, someone involved in the planning or execution of 9-11 and subscribing to their extremist ideology. Park 51 is akin to a YMCA(in fact its design is based on one) and it is not at Ground Zero, which incidentally already has had a real Mosque even closer to it.
Research. Do some.
on October 8th, 2010 at 7:56 am
Sharia Law isn’t coming to America. We have far more to fear from Evangelical Law because we have way too many people in this country who falsely believe that 1) America was a Christian Nation (Read ALL of Jefferson’s writing on the subject and check out Madison while you’re at it) 2. That the Constitution doesn’t really require the separation of church and state and 3. That religion actually has a place in a court room.
See the similarities. We have a justice system that is 1. based on retribution, 2. Is biased against minorities 3. That puts the victim on trial (especially rape cases) and now we have groups that are certain that their religion would save us all. The difference is that the Evangelicals are running for office so they can actually cause trouble.
on October 8th, 2010 at 8:16 am
Ruslan. So, its “Stouch” now, huh? Little burr under that saddle?
The simple fact is Ruslan, you lied – flat out lied – when you said there were no sharia courts in Europe. This from someone telling Whitehurst to do “some research”.
You’ve now lost all credibility here Ruslan. And personally I dont care if your an atheist or any other -thist – you toe the muslim party line in all things, so your religion, or lack thereof, is irrelevant.
on October 8th, 2010 at 8:40 am
“Oneofthem”, in case you weren’t aware, people who want to impose Sharia law, like all religious fundamentalists- ARE right wing. The right wing is defined by those who want to preserve tradition and fight against change.
on October 8th, 2010 at 9:41 am
Upon further consideration Ruslan, I believe you are also telling a lie in your assertion that you are an atheist.
Your arguments run much to similar to those I found at Loon-watch, a UK based islamist site. And I notice that Loonwatch is actually linked to SPLC on its website, so that fits perfectly well.
No, you are a professional Ruslan, simply employing taqqiya and spreading misinformation.
on October 8th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Just more scare tactics
on October 8th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Scaring people into follwing soemone is an old ploy.fear is a great motivator.
on October 8th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
chris dowling What got you so teed off? Fore! If you’ll check out http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....slims.html you’ll see that Muslim leaders condemned as misguided changing the 3 pigs to 3 puppies. For one thing they have no objection to pigs as storybook characters, only as dinner. It is also true, as far as I know, that devout Muslims consider dogs just as unclean as hogs.
In general I am done searching for documentation of the nonsensical claims of “conservatives” who seem incapable of writing in the English language much less including URLs in their post to back up their ridiculous claims. I will, however, point out (as I did when Lou Stouch or one of his co-ninnies posted these claims about Sharia courts in the UK in another thread here) that the controversy has arisen because parliament has recently passed a law that, when someone willingly submits to binding arbitration by an Islamic court, the ruling of that court will indeed be considered binding. I don’t quite see how this provides any support for Sharia law. It seems to me that a rational person would be less likely to subject themselves to an Islamic court if the ruling of that court was considered binding. With any luck this act of parliament will eventually put such courts out of business. Unfortunately, as some of the idiots who post here make abundantly clear, there seems to be an endless supply of people who are not at all rational.
on October 8th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
sharia law is nothing to fear in comparison to what the jews are doing and have done to this country. pity ben franklin, thomas jefferson and others at the time did not prevail. we would not be currently be burdened with either their presence nor the fact that the muslims have brought their fight with the jews to our country.
on October 8th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Mitch Mitch Mitch, where to begin. I’ll keep it simple. I recall a recent story about a British bank “recalling” piggy banks – for children, of course – because certain muslims found them offensive. So much for your commentary on pigs.
As regards sharia, you obviously miss the point. Being, that the muslims are forming a parallel society in which they will follow their own laws. Does the term “no go areas” mean ring a bell? Naturally this takes time, but they push a little here and a little there, and before you know it, presto, separate swimming hours for men and women (Germany). I also recall a recent incident in which a politician visited a muslim neighborhood, only to be told by the local imam something to the effect that, “you dont come to a muslim area and do whatever”.
Must you resort to name calling Mitch? Ninnies and idiots? Usually such exclamations are a reflection of frustration born from the lack of a cogent argument. Such being the case here, if you still miss my points.
on October 8th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
“Upon further consideration Ruslan, I believe you are also telling a lie in your assertion that you are an atheist.
Your arguments run much to similar to those I found at Loon-watch, a UK based islamist site. And I notice that Loonwatch is actually linked to SPLC on its website, so that fits perfectly well.
No, you are a professional Ruslan, simply employing taqqiya and spreading misinformation.”
Well thanks for confirming my assertion that conservatives are cowardly, paranoid people afraid of their own shadow. Cry and moan all you want but I am an atheist, after freeing myself the insanity of evangelical Christianity(America’s answer to the Taliban). How sad that the best you can come up with is “you’re lying”, and then the hilariously paranoid “you’re a professional.”
Hell, I WISH I could get paid for this. Exposing right-wing nutcases and torpedoing your pathetic arguments is one of the easiest things I do. If only someone would pay me.
Now it is ironic that given all this you are oblivious to claim that Mitch doesn’t have a “cogent argument”. Funny that all your “arguments” revolve around stories you “recall”. Gee, recall from where exactly?
on October 8th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
“sharia law is nothing to fear in comparison to what the jews are doing and have done to this country. ”
I see what you did there Dana. If you wish, please explain to us what Jews have done to America. Then prepare to reap a whirlwind of sarcasm.
on October 8th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Is *every* Christian Republican a frothingly insane loon?
Good grief.
on October 8th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
……..well-known politicians like Newt Gingrich — are now warning with straight faces that mullahs could soon be caning American schoolchildren if they get caught chewing gum…….
Actually, there is only one country that actually bans chewing gum, and that is Singapore, and no, Sharia laws do not exist there.
on October 9th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Based on Blog comments, knowledge surrounding Shari’ah and the threat it poses on our Constitutional Republic, is at best marginal.
Shari’ ah is a social, political, economic and unfortunately a religious ideology, which by virtue of it’s tenets, seeks to dominate all who are non Muslim by subverting ALL other political as well as economic systems. Shari’ah IS Islam.
Are we at risk? we seem to think so. Putting ones politcal leanings aside, I invite you to read all you can and make your own assessment. The Geert Wilders trial, being conducted as we speak may be a good start. Key in Sharia Compliant Financing, Joy Brighton, Frank Gaffney and learn how these seemingly mundane financial transactions are supporting Al-Qaida and others violent groups.
What we hate is the oppression of Shari’ ah and the violence of Jihad against Americans and all peoples of all nations subject to and under it’s dictates.
It is not about religious redemption. It’s about the explotation of fear, benefitting those perpetuating it, with power, wealth and control.
Thank You
on October 9th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
From me: The simple fact is Ruslan, you lied – flat out lied – when you said there were no sharia courts in Europe. This from someone telling Whitehurst to do “some research……
From Ruslan: Well thanks for confirming my assertion that conservatives are cowardly, paranoid people afraid of their own shadow. Cry and moan all you want but I am an atheist….
Cowardly? I am right in the fight bro. Why no comment on your lie about no sharia courts in Europe, Ruslan? Hoping we’d just overlook that?
on October 10th, 2010 at 2:05 am
Sorry Domenick, but most of us just aren’t as easily terrified as you are.
on October 10th, 2010 at 10:51 am
“From me: The simple fact is Ruslan, you lied – flat out lied – when you said there were no sharia courts in Europe. This from someone telling Whitehurst to do “some research……”
Where you do your research makes a BIG difference. Your “research” consists of alarmist sites, judging by the words and concepts you regurgitate.
Nonetheless, what bearing on actual law do the Sharia courts you refer to have? None.
“Cowardly? I am right in the fight bro. ”
No, you are a coward in real life and your “fight” is little more than an internet fantasy. That is why your paranoid mind NEEDS me to be a Muslim so badly.
“Why no comment on your lie about no sharia courts in Europe, Ruslan? Hoping we’d just overlook that?”
Please show us your sources, and show what bearing these courts have on UK law.
on October 11th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Lou, your comments on Shariah law courts in the UK are as alarmist as the reactionary newspapers over here. The simple fact of the matter is that a Muslim in the UK is entitled to have a _civil_ matter dealt with by a religious leader in accordance with his/her religious beliefs, this is in no way different from two atheists attending an arbitration meeting to resolve a _civil_ matter. The findings are only acceptable when both parties agree to the outcome and in no way can they supercede the law of the land. A Muslim (or any other person for that matter) cannot choose to be tried in any court other than a crown/magistrate court in the case of any _criminal_ proceedings brought against them. The slippery slope does not in any way shape or form apply.
As to your alarmist BS about banning piggy banks and the like, I hate to break this to you, but it’s simply not true. While I have no doubt you could bore me to tears with links to stories in the Mail about christmas being banned or toilets made for Muslims only in shopping centres, but that wouldn’t change the fact that the stories are generally wilful misreporting of incidents to further the “OMG those dirty foreigners want to ruin it for us lovely middle class white people” rhetoric of the right wing press in the UK.
on October 12th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
At least those awful jooz have had the good sense not to try to impose their Kosher laws on the rest of us. They’ll have to pry my BBQ from my cold dead hands! You paranoid ninnies and idiots are a laugh a minute.
on October 12th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
We’ve been called traitors, morons, idiots; cowards, paranoids and thanks to MR. buddha, we were provided with an acronomic nexus to female genitalia.
This is not the SPLC I once knew.
What Class!
on October 12th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
“We’ve been called traitors, morons, idiots; cowards, paranoids”
Yup, that pretty much covers your group. Apt titles them all.
on October 14th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Perhaps we could add liars to the list of apt titles for the repeated claims of the “Muslim threat in Europe” which they continue to make in spite of the fact the these claims have been debunked repeatedly. What’s really happening in Europe today is the biggest wave of xenophobia and religious hatred since the defeat of Nazi Germany 65 years ago.
on October 14th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
…And actually most Europeans are more concerned with immigration from other European nations, particularly European Union nations of Eastern Europe. It’s not only the immigration- they are angry(though they have themselves to blame) that so much of their tax Euros have gone into propping up states like Poland, Slovakia, the Baltic states, and so on- yet these states for the most part continue to be hell-holes and people flock out of them and into England, Germany, and the west in general.
But I look at it this way, Western Europe worked so hard to break down “evil totalitarian” Communism- so let them clean up the mess.