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American Family Association Official Has New Target: Native Americans

By Evelyn Schlatter on February 9, 2011 - 1:10 pm, Posted in Anti-LGBT, Anti-Muslim

Bryan Fischer, the director of issue analysis for government and public policy at the American Family Association (AFA), has expanded his astounding bigotry to include not just Muslims and LGBT people, but Native Americans as well.

In a post published Monday on the Rightly Concerned blog – a project of the AFA – Fischer railed on native peoples for not being Christian, claiming it’s their own fault that they lost their land and were forced onto reservations to cope with terrible living conditions.

“Superstition, savagery and sexual immorality” morally disqualified Native Americans from “sovereign control of American soil,” Fischer said. That, plus the superior battle skills of Europeans gave the latter “rightful and legal sovereign control” of American land through what he delicately described as “the right of conquest.” Fischer went on to blame poverty and alcoholism on Indian reservations on Native Americans themselves, because they “continue to cling to the darkness of indigenous superstition” and refuse to come into “the light of Christianity” and assimilate “into Christian culture.” How Christianity would have helped Native Americans adapt to confinement on reservations is anybody’s guess.Fischer was apparently propelled into his diatribe by the Native American blessing at the memorial for the Tucson shooting victims in January – a blessing that drew mocking commentary from others in the conservative media as well. “The continued presence of native American superstition was on full display” at the service, Fischer wrote. The invocation – “such as it was,” in Fischer’s words – was offered by Carlos Gonzales, a Pascua Yacqui Indian. Fischer complained that Gonzales sought inspiration from the Seven Directions, including Father Sky and Mother Earth, rather than “the God of the Bible.”

Picking and choosing his history, Fischer essentially blamed violence between Indians and whites on Indians, who rather than embracing Christianity, murdered missionaries in cold blood, and rejected George Washington’s “direct counsel” to give up their own ways of life and learn, above all, “the religion of Jesus Christ.”

Regarding what he described as the “sexual immorality” of American natives, Fischer noted that certain tribesmen honored the arrival of the Lewis and Clark expedition in the early 19th Century by offering their wives to expedition members for sex. Fischer didn’t explain why such a practice should justify the tribes forfeiting claim to the land – but not so for the white men who took advantage of it.

Fischer said Americans today are as guilty of abominations as were the Native Americans before they were conquered, citing contemporary abortion, adultery, homosexuality and the normalization of sexual immorality. Furthermore, he claimed, we are witnessing “a surge in incest, pedophilia and even bestiality in our midst.” He offered no evidence at all to back up this unusual claim. Fischer also warned that we would soon morally disqualify ourselves from sovereign control of our own land.

Philip J. Deloria, professor of history and noted scholar of Native American history and culture at the University of Michigan, said in an E-mail to Hatewatch that “history … starts with the assumptions of historical people … and then examines how their actions comport with their morality.” A historian, he noted, would not take one moral standard and apply it across time and space, but a fundamentalist “can’t really think in those terms … which means that he or she should probably stay away from history.”

The AFA, in an apparent attempt to keep some distance between themselves and Fischer, includes a disclaimer on his blogs that the opinions expressed “are the author’s and do not necessarily reflect the views of the AFA or American Family Radio.” Yet, they keep running them.

  • A Walkaway

    (Sigh)

    I keep hearing things like this. The thing is, my tribe treated the European newcomers with kindness and generosity (a hallmark and cultural requirement of Native Americans in general) and were repaid with murder, rape, and theft of our lands. It continues even today. (The last Muskogee-Creek lands were confiscated for “back taxes” in the 1960s and 1970s in Florida.)

    BTW… unlike Fischer, we didn’t have freedom of religion until after 1980. I remember when the federal law granting us that freedom was passed – all of the “Good Christians” (fundamentalists and worse) were up in arms about it. They still claim that law was just an attempt to allow drug use in this country – and peyote (not part of eastern practice – we never used anything ‘harder’ than tobacco) is still outlawed.

    Yet while those b*st*rds make stupid claims like this (my own tribe’s traditions is a pre-Columbian form of Christianity) and persecute us, at the same time they say because we don’t “Look Indian”, we aren’t – often while simultaneously persecuting us. Never mind that eastern Native Americans don’t as a general rule look like those from the west, and the stereotype of “black hair- brown eyes- brown skin” and so on including living in teepees is like most stereotypes – false.

  • jwd

    Divide,conquer and make up your own history by blaming the victim.

  • Tyler

    If I show up at Fischer’s house with a gang armed with Aks and drive him out of his home would it become mine by right of conquest.

  • Joe

    I knew the AFA was bigoted and “out there” in their beliefs (such as claiming that legalizing gay marriage would quite literally destroy our civilization), but this blog seems crazy even for them. As hateful as these fundamentalist groups are towards GLBT people, racism seems to be quite rare for them (the mainstream fundies, anyway). But I shouldn’t be too surprised, I suppose. After all, these group will look for any excuse or opportunity to bash people for not belonging to the “true religion”. After the Haiti earthquake, Pat Robertson blamed the Hatians themselves because some of them practiced voodoo. It’s times like this that I am so happy to be an atheist!

  • Gilda

    Concerned citizen:
    I have always sought the truth. It does not matter if it fits with my way of thinking or not because truth is truth and lies cannot change the facts. People seem to use lies and distortions to try to form a sort of time machine. It seems they think that if enough lies are told or enough deceptions made…. maybe they can change the words in history. Therefore making the lies appear as the truth.

    The facts are that the original people of these America’s were more Christian than the Christians that came here. If one wants to call it that. The new comers abused and slaughtered the original people that were here and took from them all that they could. Be fair and think honestly and truthfully. If they were as the Christians….no one would have ever made it to shore. Yet the original people met those odd looking people in different clothing and mannerisms that came off the boats from other nations with kindness and generosity to begin with. It was only after years of abuse that the original people started standing up for themselves, but it was to late. They are still the only nationality that is required to carry a blood quantum card saying how much of their nationality do they carry. I do not know of any other nationality that is ask are you full blood. Are you half blood, etc.? Do you ever hear? “You look German.” “You look French.” You look English.” You may carry an accent from your country but most of us…. you could not tell where we are from if we did not open our mouth. What difference does it make anyway if all that is wanted is the best for the human race, instead of greed and hate that so many want to keep going. My soul is sick of this type of thing. May the GREAT God in Heaven or Creator forgive those deserving of forgiveness and may the ones that are not worthy find the road to forgiveness.

  • Emily Brothers

    As one of Native heritage and Christian I am deeply grieved by Mr. Fischer”s ignorant and hateful ideas. As a Christian I feel deep shame. A book I have found helpful is One Church Many Tribes by Richard Twiss. I also want to say that I am quite conservative and I would appreciate not being labled in narrow negative ways. It sounds a bit “Fischerish”.

  • Donna

    I believe I commented on this dreck when it was still posted as a blog. It is nothing more than a small-minded, childish individual trying to justify by any means possible their unfounded and wild-eyed hate-mongering. There is nothing “Christian” in his ranting, I do not believe Jesus would approve (judged on my reading of his words). But, people who spout this sort of vitriol must also remember that Jesus said, “…Inasmuch as ye have done unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done unto me.” He should remember that the Bible says God notices when a sparrow falls and are not people at least as worthy of notice as a sparrow? How will he defend his words when he stands before his God? It would be very interesting to see.

  • D J Vollendorf

    Christ’s commandment, the New Covenant he preached, was “Little children, love one another.” Any who preach any other doctrine are outside Christ’s New Covenant and are not following His teachings. Therefore they are not truly Christian.

    It is usually the humblest of Christ’s followers, like the saint, Martin de Porres, who exemplify true Christianity. In the sixteenth century, this humble servant of God wrote a modest treatise on “Practicing the Presence”, or living and acting as though God was witness to one’s every thought and action. I don’t think hatred and intolerance were included in such a practice.

    Those who manifest hatred and intolerance when professing their faith cannot be truly Christian. I don’t know what they are, but they are not followers of Christ.

  • Aaron

    Indian people are denied their rights today simply because they were not Christians at the time of European arrival.There is a direct relationship between the theft of Native lands and the Catholic Church’s ancient doctrines. Those doctrines, called papal bulls, still stand after more than 500 years and are the basis for ongoing patterns of subjugation that have been incorporated into U.S.federal Indian laws. 1452 decree issued by Pope Nicholas V,
    followed by the 1493 Inter Cetera papal bull,Pope Alexander VI .These laws of Christendom were incorporated into an 1823 Supreme Court decision, Johnson v. McIntosh.In Johnson v. Mclntosh, the reasoning of the court was based upon a distinction between Christians and heathens, and the Doctrine of Discovery was formally written into the laws of the United States by the Supreme Court.see Steven Newcomb.

  • Aaron

    Sad as it may be, Bryan Fischer has essentially gotten the Legal Justification for Non-Indian control of North America correct. Read your Supreme Court Judge John Marshall in the Johnson v. M’intish descision. Unfortunately,this Is the reason for our (I am an enrolled member of Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma) loss of Legal Control over our Homeland.

  • Roha

    Yes, even Christians are entitled to their opinion. The problem with with them is, they are more concerned with saving peoples souls, than being politically correct or offending someone. But until they actually break the law… what are you going to do? Unfortunately the First Amendment covers everyone.

  • Robert Carr

    Ah yes, American and Christian Exceptionalism, or is it Chauvanism. There’s nothing like a return to 19th century excuses for greed that enabled a holocaust against indigenous peoples. But wait! It’s still going on, although those remaining Indgenous are organizing. Latin America and Asia are the theaters of this opposition.

    The American Family Association ignores the possibility that Indians have access to both natural and spiritual knowledge that might be of benefit to a chaotic modern world. In fact, I would say that the AFA is AFRAID of that possibility. It would cost them their monopoly on absolute religious authority.

  • Shadow Wolf

    “Could it be that Mr. Fisher’s next move may be to promote the “common law” doctrine of Terra Nullius when it comes to Native Americans/Alaska Natives/Pacific Islander claims, in effect claiming whites are entitled “by right of conquest” to preemptive right on Native American lands?”

    The idea of the “common law” by which “whites are entitled by right of conquest” is still evidently at work to this day.
    According to this report:
    http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.c.....w_that.php

    In which Gov. Jan Brewer quickly signed an emergeny legistlature that gives the state the power to annex Indian Lands, without the (1st)Nation’s consent. So the notion that “whites are entitled by right of conquest” is unfortunately accurate. As woefully disturbing as it already is, that’s not the worst part of the deal, but how it is voted to enforce it, shall I say–egregious.

    And btw, sorry I’ve been away for awhile.

  • sergio

    im sorry is it 1811 or 2011 i forget
    what the hell is this they seem to be going further and further back in there hatred i mean how long before demons and witches really start becoming an issue worthy of floor time in the senate lets see how long before the malluium malifacus is bring waved around by these nuts

  • Ian

    Fischer’s rant reminds me of a great quote Wayne Lutton made at, where else, a Council of Conservative Citizens meeting.

    “We are the real Americans, not the Hmong, not Latinos, not the Siberian Americans. The native Americans are not real Americans, they came from Siberia, and you’ve read about the digs in Washington state. We are the descendants of the real Americans.”

    I’d never thought I’d live to see these ideas switch from white nationalists to the religious right, though.

  • legalhound

    The very idea that anyone has the “right of conquest” is absolutely absurd. Conquest is just a fancy term for armed robbery as it is still the taking of something from someone else through the use of armed force. Theft is theft and if the religious right loves the Ten Commandments as much as they say they do then they should be ashamed and ostracize Fisher once and for all. After all one of those commandments is “Though Shalt Not Steal” and I don’t think there was an exception made when dealing with people who had a different sense of ownership.
    Our First Nations-before Europeans even stepped on the shores of North America had a much more forward looking concept of ownership that we could really learn from. Of course the people didn’t own the land, it belonged to the next generation and they were just borrowing and caring for it. If we treated this country that way then we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in now or at least we’d make darn sure that it could never happen again. Stealing is terrible, but it is even more terrible to steal your child’s future and that of your grandchildren for your own personal gain. Life is not just about you-it’s also about the ones who come after you.
    Fisher is just another revisionist white supremacist moron who tries to justify his filth using Christianity as a shield. Anyone who has read the Gospels knows that he is anything but Christian.

  • Patricia Smith

    Considering that we still have a NFL football team with the moniker, “Redskins”, is it any wonder that such racism against Native Americans is still rampant? The fascist right calls just about any attempt to confront such institutionalized racism, “political correctness” just to pull the rug out from under those of us who wish to bring racism in all its forms to public attention. Additionally, too many people look at racism as merely a white-black problem, and do not realize that it is a much more complex situation.

    I am not a Native American, but I personally find this man’s comments and behavior offensive, and believe he should be outed for what he is – a religious fascist. We need to start calling situations what they are. And we can begin by attacking examples of institutionalized racism, no matter where we find it, or who it is practiced by or against.

  • Clay Williams

    As we have seen many times in the last few years, people like Fischer, who have been so adamant in their criticism of others, seem to have their own demons and try to repel those demons by making outlandish and utterly false comments about those they despise. How many times in the last six years have we heard about some members of congress, and many in the pulpit, who were exposed for their sexual exploits and other “high crimes and mis-demeanors”? In the words of Shakespeare, “Me Thinks Mr. Fischer Doth Protest TOO Much”!

  • Ruslan Amirkhanov

    LOL WUT Moment

    “All throughout history the white man brings misery – this is not just a quote but in all actuality, our reality.”

    In fantasy land maybe. In reality, there is no such thing as “the white man”. The very belief in a “white” race is in fact a construction of white supremacists, fairly recent in history I might add.

    ” Whites now who don’t carry that hatred in their heart i feel is their obligation to help us people of color fight against the inherent evil that by nature lives in the white race.”

    Again, the “white man” / “people of color” dichotomy is a Western, white invention. Most people you call “people of color” would never consider themselves to be such, much less a member of some international group based on skin tone.

    ” I dont want to be chipped, i dont want to worship a young religion and a fraudulent one like Christianity and life would be such a better place without these non melanated beings.”

    Christianity is no more fraudulent than other religions, age notwithstanding. Nor was it created by “white” people.

  • Hikeeba

    As repulsive and worthless as I find primordial ooze such as Fischer, I am equally troubled by attitudes such as Kishh’s.
    “…I feel is their obligation to help us people of color fight against the inherent evil that by nature lives in the white race.” Isn’t find inherent evil or ignorance or any other behavioral trait in a race, religion, etc. Exactly what we are railing against this insidiously violent bigot?
    By trumpeting that “…life would be such a better place without these non melanated beings.” aren’t you falling in with Fischer’s belief that genocide would solve a host of problems?
    No race is inherently evil. No race or group is blessed with faultless nobility. Humans are imperfect; we all stumble sometimes, though some seem to choose that flaw as a way of life.
    Kishh, I went to your website and was saddened to see how quickly you reached Godwin’s Law. Isn’t that the hyperbole such hate-mongers use against us?
    We are not better than that. We just know better.

  • Giselle A.

    Isn’t Christianity suppose to love people and everything that God created? God created all kinds of different ethnicities. Didn’t God create us all as equals and not one thing and or person is seen more valuable in the eyes of God then another. He needs to reread what the Bible and get his facts straight before he starts throwing around Gods name in this.
    Also it seems to me that Mr.Fischer needs to reread history. There was adultery, prostitution, and ancient myths in the European continent as well as everywhere else in the world. The Nordic believed in different Gods before Christianity was introduced. And I am sure that it was actually the conquistadors that actually brought diseases and such to the America’s. They introduced the native population to all these illnesses and killed off about 90% of the original population. I would like to see how he’d react if they forced him out of his house and into the crappiest places of real estate by force.
    Attacking the Native American culture is very ignorant of himself. Other parts of the world have different cultures. I’m sure all countries are so diverse that the culture can hardly compare to one another. To call them savages is very hard to hear also since they are the ones who welcomed the early settlers to the Americas. He needs to go back to school get himself an education. Be open minded and stop being bias when he learns about it. Native Americans have had one of the hardest struggles in America.

  • TOMA YONU/ TOM BEAR

    AH HO MA TAK WE AW SI Mr. B Ficher, surely you live in a state that has no Indian { native americans} population. You know nothing or very little about us. I”m not at at all shocked by you! Actually you have alot of clowns just like you running around our country. I don”t know where you get your info but it wasn”t from any history book. there is nothing factual in your words. 1st about everything we do begins with “PRAYER’ now as well as then! Lessor “BATTLE SKILLS” ? Compare weapons, the Indian did pretty good with thier inferior weapons. those guns & cannons were the savages. I wonder why we lost our land? We did not have alcholism & Reservations until they were provided for us! Superstitions may be beliefs? Seem as if you have your own. WHY DO YOU FEAR US ? then you mentioned adapting to confinement, man that iced the cake! that is truely out of the mouth of a “IDIOT”! HOW WOULD YOU ADAPT TO CONFINEMENT? FOR DOING NOTHING WRONG? Seven Directions? Maybe Four! SELECTIVE HISTORY Mr. ficsher IT DON”T WORK! &I WOULD RATHER FIGHT THAN EMBRACE “YOUR” WAYS. Try getting to know us, visit a REZ or two. BE SURE TO WEAR A HAT.

  • Denis Carter

    I have spent over 40 years in the trauma, addiction and recovery field working with very wounded ,abused an abandoned clients. I am convinced that there is a direct correlation between the depth of holistic wounding and the level of extreme presentations that cover fear. Most predjudice is based in fear,ignorance, and passed on intergenerationally. It often manifests in individuals and families and nations as a survival behaviors to avoid dealing with the reality of their aggressive perpetrations and/or their victimhood. Raging, arrogance, racism, homophobia, addiction and mindless ranting are all manifestations of deep wounding. When a person avoids dealing with their trauma, a small percentage turn to the above forms of acting out. Their obnoxious ramblings invite anger and judgement back, which fuels their sick thinking and extreme narcissism. The best strategy is to not take their invitation to engage in futile negative drama, and distance yourself as you would avoid walking near a big hole in the ground. People with this sickness feed on the attention they can generate from negative drama. We see this every day in the media, in politics, and on talk shows. Consider not listening. Consider teaching the truth about marginalized nations,races, and people, and make sure the truth is being taught in your schools.

  • Emilie Jackson-Edney

    Why am I not surprised by the latest antic from this buffoon. This is the same Christo-fascist Bryan Fischer that disrespected the Dalai Lama during an audience attended by clergy. Seems that Fischer walked out of the proceedings in disgust after failing to receive the answer he was seeking when he challenged the Dalai Lama about the question of homosexuality; dropping the prayer shawl in the dirt that he was given as a gift as he exited.

  • kishh

    All throughout history the white man brings misery – this is not just a quote but in all actuality, our reality. Whites now who don’t carry that hatred in their heart i feel is their obligation to help us people of color fight against the inherent evil that by nature lives in the white race. In the roman/greeks, there are thousands of gods. god of thunder, god of fertility, god of this god of that. What is superstition of mother earth and father sky? I dont want to be chipped, i dont want to worship a young religion and a fraudulent one like Christianity and life would be such a better place without these non melanated beings. http://eyesee.tumblr.com

  • Jim

    Looks as though they have pulled this blog from their site. Google still search still finds keywords and points to their site but the blog post itself has been pulled.

  • Daniel Rosenthal

    This man is as ignorant as he is stupid. He claims that
    all Native Americans were nomadic; one of the Hopi
    pueblos in Arizona (Oraibi) has been inhabited since
    1200AD. Some nomadism! He claims tha Native Americans were all sex perverts; the Cheyennes were
    noted for their sexual prudishness. He calls the Native
    Americans “cruel”; what about the Colorado state militia
    at Sand Creek 1n 1864 where militiamen used a 2 year
    old child for target practice; cut out the pubic hairs of the
    women that they killed (who in some cases were executed
    after they had surrendered and were in captivity) and cut
    open pregnant women. Or the California militiamen at
    Bear River in 1863 who raped Native women and then split
    their heads open with axes. Oh, but thse soldiers were
    CHRISTIANS, so their acts must be forgiven. Yeah, right.

  • Marisa

    The AFA is deplorable and always has been….hypocrites, hate-mongers, and I could go on and on and on.

  • Miguel

    The blog entry seems to have disappeared. I guess some things are too dumb for even the AFA after all.

  • dwen

    After the last couple of years or so, I have become convinced that people who are angry and hate, are that way because they want to be that way. You cannot even suggest to most of them that they research their erroneous information, and try to seek the truth, because they do not want to know the truth. Knowing the truth, as accurately as we can, means that you must think about your attitudes, and sometimes change them, and most of these people, at least those that I have dealt with, do not want to make the effort that this requires. They appear to enjoy being angry and hating, and blaming all of society’s ills on others—their minds are closed to any form of personal analysis or to reviewing the information out their to make up their own minds instead of letting others form their opinions. In a nutshell, they believe what they want to believe, and it doesn’t have to be accurate. One of the scary things about this is that they are lining other people’s pockets with gold–those who are cashing in on their anger and hate–people such as Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, and Anne Coulter, and Sara Palin to name a few. Those people are laughing all the way to the bank. And when you see an otherwise intelligent person believing this hogwash, to me, it is extremely frightening.

  • skinnyminny

    Wow! There it is! People wonder why SOME (not all) Americans have bad information about history, and little to none, this is why.

    And to say that the natives didn’t deserve their land, this is the same thing happening in Belize today – see, “How Will San Pedro Get Rid of the Undesirables on the Islands?” http://edition.channel5belize.com/archives/29866
    here, they are saying that the native creoles shouldn’t be allowed to enter in this area (Ambergris Cayes) without having money or being subjected to personal questions to why they are entering this area, yet, when hurricane season is upon them, they (Europeans and Americans) are allowed to enter into areas of the natives. ***btw, it should be noted, there are rumors circulating that the Europeans and Americans were able to have the peoples of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras deported from Belize.

  • http://theblogthatam.yolasite.com/blog.php IludiumPhosdex

    Could it be that Mr. Fischer’s next move may be to promote the “common law” doctrine of Terra Nullius when it comes to Native American/Alaska Native/Pacific Islander claims, in effect claiming whites are entitled “by right of conquest” to preemptive right on Native American lands?

    And for the sake of contrast, consider the following letter to the editor in the Wisconsin Dells (WI) Events of late:

    I am commenting on the Oct. 29 article regarding Nick Laskaris and his attempt to “revitalize” the strip by building a Greek metropolis.

    Either Laskaris isn’t aware or doesn’t care that Wisconsin Dells was not founded by Greeks, but by Native Americans. Never, in any of the numerous articles written about Laskaris and how he intents to accomplish this is there any mention of Native American history and how it relates to what Wisconsin Dells is today.

    His disregard is insulting to Native Americans and their ancestors who proudly lived here. In articles published in a 2005 issue of Funworld magazine, Laskaris tells of moving with his family from Chicago to Wisconsin Dells in 1970 where his father started a hot dog stand on property just off Highway A.

    At that time Jim Laskaris purchased a 25-foot fiberglass Indian Chief “just because he liked it.”

    The younger Lasksaris also said, “Pop saw what Wisconsin Dells was, but, more importantly, what it would become. The Greeks should always be number one. I had never liked the Big Chief name — after all, Pop had named our hot dog stand that just because he had the statue.”

    The article tells the fate of the 25 foot fiberglass Indian Chief. “We cut him off at the waist, shaved his feathers off, put a Trojan helmet on his head, and placed him on top of the new entrance to our park!”

    How sad this must make Native Americans feel, and I, for one, have nothing but respect for them.

    Rachel Stieve, Baraboo

  • Kimberley Fischer

    That they keep on running them says it all. This so-called man is a disgrace to my last name. I imagine he’s forgotten the historical reports that the native americans were remarkably disease-free (including STDs) before the advent of white explorers in his claim that the native american women gave the exploreres their STDs.

    It’s amazing how haters believe they are God’s chosen and will go to heaven. God is all about love. If I (as someone who, while a heterosexual who worships the Christian’s God) call LGBTs and persons of other faiths my brothers and sisters so am going to hell, then I’ll surely see him there.

  • Concerned Citizen

    Everybody is entitled to their opinions. End of story.