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Feds Push to Destroy White Supremacist Hal Turner’s Guns

By Ryan Lenz on March 1, 2011 - 6:11 pm, Posted in White Nationalism

Imprisoned neo-Nazi radio host Hal Turner, one of the most vitriolic racists in America, who routinely suggested killing his enemies, may lose a bit of his venom if federal attorneys are successful in their proposition to destroy his guns.

Following his conviction in December, U.S. District Judge Donald E. Walter ordered Turner’s small stock of firearms – three pistols and a shotgun – turned over to someone of Turner’s “designation who is licensed to have them.” Federal prosecutors on Monday, however, asked the judge to reconsider, given Turner’s history of threats. “The government requests permission to destroy the firearms, rather than turn them over to Turner’s mother,” the filing said.

Turner owned a Mossberg 12-gauge shotgun, a Sig Sauer Model P-229.40, a Star Firestar 9mm and a Walther PPK 380. They hardly comprise an arsenal, but federal prosecutors apparently see a threat in letting someone of Turner’s reputation keep weapons, even in family hands.

There’s some justification for that theory – Turner’s threats have followed a long virulent vein. In E-mails to family and friends, he has consistently voiced a wish for bloody vengeance against judges and law enforcement officials involved in his case. Just last month, Turner wrote, “When I get out, I’m gonna go after some ‘problems’ and take care of them in a manner that will be horrific,” according to court records. In another E-mail, Turner asked family members to send him the home addresses on “all the key members in my case,” including prosecutors and other law enforcement officials.

Turner has already gotten in trouble for such threats. In June 2006, Turner threatened a three-judge panel of the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that had upheld a ban on handguns in Chicago and Oak Park, Ill. He wrote in his blog, “Let me be the first to say this plainly: These judges must die. Their blood will replenish the tree of liberty.” The next day, Turner updated the post to include the names, work addresses, phone numbers and photographs of the judges, along with a map of their courthouse – a detail reminiscent of neo-Nazi William White, who was arrested in 2008 for issuing similar threats to a federal juror. Those threats landed Turner a 33-month federal sentence.

Indeed, like White, Turner built his reputation as one of the most scalding ultra-right-wing racists in America after starting his radio show nearly a decade ago. He ranted about such things as a “Portable Nigger Lyncher” machine and slimed those he hated as “savage Negro beasts,” “bull-dyke lesbians,” “faggots” and worse. His relish for issuing explicit calls for death was insatiable; he even set up a website called www.killtheenemy.com. At one point, he boasted that he could inspire “a whole slew of potential Timothy McVeighs.” “I don’t make bombs,” he said, “I make bombers.”

His reputation suffered in 2008 when unidentified hackers confronted Turner on his own forum with claims they successfully hacked into his E-mails and found correspondence with an FBI agent – apparently Turner’s handler. “Once again,” Turner wrote in the message to his handler, “my fierce rhetoric has served to flush out a possible crazy.” It turns out the FBI had used Turner to gain information about white supremacists from 2003 through 2007.

During trial, Turner argued that his rhetoric was merely political hyperbole of the sort that he claimed his FBI handlers had encouraged to entice potentially violent racists to respond to him and, in the process, identify themselves to the Bureau. Turner has maintained the FBI had given him virtual carte blanche to broadcast the things he did – something the agency has steadfastly denied.

A telephone message seeking comment was left Tuesday with his attorney, Ronald Russo, in New York.

  • Ruslan Amirkhanov

    A better question is why the FBI is paying people to purposely rile up potential terrorists. Sure, the idea is that hopefully one of these terrorist fans of Hal would tell him about his plan, so the latter could report him. But what happens if some guy gets all riled up and ready to pull something off, and doesn’t bother to tell anyone before he does it? Good job FBI!

  • Alex Thomas

    Why are you guys not reporting documented fact? Hal Turner worked for the FBI this is totally mainstream news you guys are literally kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

  • Mitch Beales

    Bare arms good, guns bad! Hahahahahaha!

  • Jordan

    The Bill of Rights (especially Amendment II) is usually not fully applied to convicted criminals. Also, these rights do have limits (i.e. you can’t yell fire in a burning building, you can’t give guns to a terrorist conspirator, you can’t own a rocket launcher, etc.)

  • http://bravenewbookstore.com Casey

    Can’t you read?
    It turns out the FBI had used Turner to gain information about white supremacists from 2003 through 2007.

    What part of agent-provocateur do you not understand?

  • Sam Molloy

    I believe in the Second Amendment, but this guy will be a Felon, and under the law he won’t be allowed to have guns. They better watch him closely though.

  • Boom boom

    I think all american citizens have a right to bare arms, this is the 2nd admendment

  • bravehostradio

    i have proof of him posting senators and congressmens home addresses and phone numbers on his website.and the 1 htreat to senators mckinny of california and trust me he has made threats to them i have some of that also.

  • CalperniaUSA

    There is a big difference between activism, political hyperbole and terrorism. Hal Turner, you are a terrorist.

    Definition of Terrorism from the Department of Defense:
    The calculated use of unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological.