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For the Radical Right, Obama Victory Brings Fury and Fear
When the word came in last night that Barack Obama and the Democrats had won national elections in a decisive victory, millions of Americans went to bed, satisfied that even if their candidate didn’t win, democracy had survived. The results made it clear that this election had in no way been stolen.
But not so at Ole Miss, which last month marked the 50th anniversary of deadly segregationist riots. Shortly after midnight, several hundred mostly white students protested furiously, reportedly yelling anti-black racial slurs and throwing rocks at passing cars. An Obama/Biden campaign sign was burned before campus police broke up the crowd in Oxford. There were apparently no arrests or injuries.
The reaction to the re-election of our first black president from the radical right — and that seemed clearly to include some University of Mississippi students — ranged from sputtering rage and name-calling to calls for a new Southern secession, mass emigration to Europe, or even the break-up of the United States. There was one thing large numbers seemed clearly to agree on: The changing racial demographics of our country, expected to lose its white majority by 2050, was key to the result.
“Welcome to a truly white minority world,” wrote one commenter on Stormfront, the world’s largest white supremacist Web forum, which is run by a former Alabama Klan leader. “The future is now. There is no denying this. The sun has set on humanity’s greatest era: 1500-2000. … [T]he only way to survive this war of annihilation is separatism. … [W]e have to choose regions or states.”
“We have truly fallen under God’s judgment,” wrote another. “You will never see another white man occupy the White House again.” Responded a third: “If you can immigrate to Europe you start making plans. … America will become largely a non-white population that is poverty stricken and all those government programs will soon disappear. It will happen. No more Medicare and no more social security.”
(Photo: WMC-TV via Twitter)
The loss of a white majority in the United States has helped drive a truly explosive growth of the radical right in the last three years, and that now seems likely to accelerate. Hate groups in recent years have risen to more than 1,000, and the number of antigovernment “Patriot” groups has shot up from just 149 in 2008 to 1,274, according to research by the Southern Poverty Law Center. For months now, groups on the radical right have increasingly fretted about a possible Obama victory. Now that that has occurred, the radical right may grow more dangerous still.
On Stormfront, given this reality, it wasn’t surprising to find talk of violence in the wake of the election. “I live in a liberal area so many of my ‘friends’ are shouting for joy,” lamented one poster at the racist site. “I don’t actually have many real friends and the ones I do have are scared and talking about arming themselves.”
Over at the conspiracist website Infowars, some reactions weren’t that different. “Now is the time to leave this country,” wrote a commenter using the name munglejonkeys. “[T]hey have brought about a communist takeover without firing a single shot. America will resemble Zimbabwe (economically) in a few years and there will be a huge shift in the welfare-dependent knob-slobs who thought that selling their souls for an Obama-phone was such a great deal. … All because white people didn’t oppose political correctness 35 years ago.”
Remarkably, similar sentiments seemed to crop up in what is taken as the political “mainstream.” Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly, fearing an Obama victory, said last night: “The white establishment is now the minority. And the voters, many of them, feel that the economic system is stacked against them and they want stuff.” He added: “The demographics are changing. It’s not a traditional America any more.”
Donald Trump, the billionaire unrepentant “birther,” didn’t mention race. But he tweeted last night that the election was “a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!” He went on to characterize the Electoral College, which gave the race to Republican George W. Bush in 2000, as a “disaster for democracy.”
The anti-gay right reacted with fury, as well. In a long thread on the passage of same-sex marriage referenda at the antigovernment site Free Republic, commenters were apoplectic — and frightened. “Get ready for God’s wrath,” wrote one. “The people are choosing Satan’s finest.” “Fudgies win again,” wrote another. “Incidents of HIV [to] rise again.” And a third: “America is going to pay for its unbelief and its love of abortion and homosexuals. … And IT DESERVES IT.”
“SICK SICK SICK,” wrote still another. “What a filthy night this election is.”
In fact, as pointed out on CNN’s religion blog, the whole election was a “nightmare scenario” for conservative Christian leaders. Noting the approval of two same-sex marriage referenda, the re-election of a president who supported such marriages, and the rejection of hard-line anti-abortion candidates, CNN said the election results “seemed to mark a dramatic rejection of the Christian right’s agenda.”
“The historic nature of these results are hard to overstate,” Robert P. Jones, a pollster who specializes in politics and religion, told CNN regarding the referenda in Maine and Maryland. “Given the strong support of younger Americans for same-sex marriage, it’s unlikely this issue will reappear as a major national wedge issue.”
Non-Islamic domestic terrorism in the United States shot up in the wake of President Obama’s first election in 2008, spurred by fury over the “socialist” president and the racial change that he represents in the American population. Now, given the reaction from the radical right to last night’s election results, that seems likely to continue — or to get even worse, as racists and right-wing radicals seethe.
Joseph Farah, who runs the conspiracist “news” site WorldNetDaily, sounded typical. “I think things are going to get very tough in America over the next four years,” he said. “I expect more division, more stratification, maybe even the disintegration of the constitutional republic that was the envy of the world for so long. It’s time to hunker down. It’s time to prepare for the worst — economically, militarily, socially, culturally. The revolutionaries have won a major political victory. The America haters are running the country for another four years.
“That is not a pretty prospect.”
“OK, now we have all seen the writing on the wall, AGAIN!” wrote one person in a Stormfront post that seemed to capture the general feeling of helpless rage. “The question is, What are we going to do about it? What is our plan?”
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:03 am
…….Yep. Saw THIS coming. Mind you, I could have been BLIND and still saw this coming…
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Keeping an eye on the radical right is what this says…
you need to keep an eye on the Radical Left, too, FOOLS
I knew the SPLC would jump on a story like this after the election.. I also bet that the SPLC will not post a story on how wrong it is to post on twitter or facebook threatening mitt romney.. and why wont they, cuz he is white. and alot of those threats were posted by blacks.
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Be careful and vigilant. I hate to say it, Liberals living in non-liberal areas need to be EXTRA vigilant, ditto those in interracial relationships. NEVER underestimate the capacity for a fanatic to resort to violence, especially when they feel their way of life is threatened.
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:35 am
You’re not going to change these people. I have them in my own family. Keep an eye on it, but don’t let them get to you.
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Add Ted Nugent to the list of radical righties freaking out and removing all doubt that they are extremely racist people.
i kind of realize that i missed an opportunity for hilarity though when i hit delete on my answering machine to both of those messages which began “Hello friend this is Pat Boone”
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:39 am
James, your racism is glaring. Please go home and wash your sheet. I’m sure it is getting dingy from so much use.
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Mitt Romney’s kid says he’d like to punch President Obama, and the LEFT is the problem? James, I’d like to introduce you to a new concept: REALITY. What should have happened to TAGG Romney was a trip with the guys in the big black sedans. Fortunately for him, President Obama passed it off as the stupidity it was.
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Gosh James, that was one rancid dribble of shit of a comment. How do feel after that?
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Mark, this was hardly “close to a landslide” or a “lopsided” victory. Look at the popular vote – there was about a two percent difference between Obama and Romney (based on where the reported numbers are as of this post). To claim this seriously hurts your argument. As an SPLC supporter, I wanted to share this article as I think it has great value, but your lead paragraph is so inaccurate that it will call into question the rest of your story. A more careful choice of words, or better editing, would have done much more good down the road.
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Emigration is a great idea for WNs. Any way we can persuade Newt Gingrich to lead them to the moon to establish a colony?
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:55 am
“you need to keep an eye on the Radical Left, too, FOOLS”
Really? Like who?
““[T]hey have brought about a communist takeover without firing a single shot. ”
Or without having a single Communist candidate!
” Shortly after midnight, several hundred mostly white students protested furiously, reportedly yelling anti-black racial slurs and throwing rocks at passing cars. An Obama/Biden campaign sign was burned before campus police broke up the crowd in Oxford. There were apparently no arrests or injuries.”
Well you know how those white folks are when they don’t get their way. Typical White Behavior.
““If you can immigrate to Europe you start making plans. ”
Actually you should make plans to stay home. Europe doesn’t want you.
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:57 am
The Dominionists and Christian Identity people thought that this election would bring the Republic of Gilead. The 1% were only too happy to encourage that fantastical notion. Now that our nation has eschewed both, the potential for backlash, violent backlash is only too real.
Personally, I think that it is time that we term Reconstruction a failure, cease our 150 year old effort at nation building in the former Confederate states and end our occupation of the region.
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Elisa, I here you. Authoritarian personalities see no symmetry in anything. “Justice” means declaring them right; “fairness” means giving them what they want. The pathetic part is that many of these characters would be oppressed far worse if “their” side prevailed. While they toiled for less than minimum wage (because it would be abolished), indentured their children to factory owners (because there would be neither public schools nor child labor laws), or served on chain gangs (no more right to legal representation), they could at least console themselves that, as white males, they were “better” than about three quarters of the population.
on November 7th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
There IS no “radical left” in this country. Obama is a more conservative President than Eisenhower was.
on November 7th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
John, you can only rain (whoops) reign on one Gold Toilet Seat at a time. Please be content with the throne you have already won.
on November 7th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Elisa, read, “hear”. An election-night diet of popcorn and wine can leave one slightly impaired.
on November 7th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
I spend a LOT of time tracking BOTH SIDES of the left-right divide.
And while there are a fare share of radical-leftists, they mostly are people who are into idiotic and bizarre ideologies that are more worried about Genetically Modified Foods (of which there is no danger), Nuclear Power (of which there is even less danger), or Identity Politics (which is just bizarre).
But the radical-right is actively divisive; mostly incendiary; gun-toting; and rhetorically prone to threatening secession or rebellion.
Comparing the two sides is not at all the same thing.
And the SPLC does track leftist hate-groups (although they are fewer and further between than right-wing hate groups, as “Tradition,” which is what “conservatives” are all about, tends to be more fearful of perceived threats, and more about maintaining tradition. And “the other” – be they different religion, different ethnicity, or different gender – tend to be a cause of fear among the conservative). So, they are less likely to be discovered by someone who is not familiar with the SPLC tracking of these groups.
on November 7th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Dear Ole Miss protesters threatening to move to Europe:
By all means, do. They just voted in gay marriage in France and Spain.
Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.
Now you know how the dinosaurs felt.
on November 7th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
I am relieved that the guy who held a boy down and cut off his hair was defeated by the intelligent guy. I’m not surprised that the bully’s supporters are also bullies.
on November 7th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
“Any way we can persuade Newt Gingrich to lead them to the moon to establish a colony?”
Too late, Mitch. China’s on its way to the moon already and Mitt Romney is investing in it. That’s what was in the unseen tax returns.
I think the best thing we can do is make the Red States pay Reparations. Maybe the only thing they fear more than Muslims and Socialists is the thought of Reparations. That and microchipping but I understand the UN is already taking care of that.
on November 7th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
“they mostly are people who are into idiotic and bizarre ideologies that are more worried about Genetically Modified Foods (of which there is no danger)”
Oh dear. I guess you have never heard of the dangers of monoculture?
First the use of GM crops is intended to reduce pesticide application, but the reverse occurs because pests and weeds build up resistance to the pesticides developed specifically for the GM crops (see studies by Cornell and University of Arizona). This leads to higher toxin use, which is a health hazard, as well as interferes with crop rotation. In addition, since the toxins are more potent, a frequent problem around the world is that farmers unfamilar with the quantities end up poisoning themselves.
GM crops also experience a “yield drag” so that the amount of food produced per acre is less over time than conventional crops. Keep in mind non GM seed becomes mixed with GM seed over time, making reversal to non-GM crops almost impossible. This represents a threat to food security.
I could go on with other details but the point is, the idea that GM foods present no danger is simply not true. If you pay attention to what science is saying monoculture is an extremely serious problem, and GM foods are a big contributor to monoculture.
Similarly in regard to nuclear power, the actual generation, especially with modern technologies, is quite safe. The problem is not with generation, however, but what to do with the waste. No truly safe method of disposal has been devised, and that is really the issue, not whether or not the generators are safe.
It’s a pity more people don’t look deeper into the issues they are finding fault with. It’s an intellectual farce to claim progressives are this or that without being able to back up these affirmations with facts.
on November 7th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
REally. a country founded by whites.. although it was Indian land.. A country where the whites did the fighting and the government puts them on the back burner through immigration, anchor babies, affirmative action.. Wow It is just plain logic. they are a people and have a right to be p****d. I would be careful with this one..they know they got a raw deal and all the pc brow-beating is not going to stop their anger.
on November 7th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
james seems very much like the potential latest identity of Jason Smith/annie/Ezra/Jessica/Adolf Hitler Dumbkopf, III/or whatever other names it has used. Okay, it probably only should use the name Adolf Hilter Dumbkopf, III
And aadila, if red states are going to have to start paying reperations then i guess its a good thing for me that Virginia has gone blue. In fact, given the ever increasing anti-government tilt of the Republican Party and an increasing Hispanic population that could well become permanent at least on the national level. Virginia was the first southern state to turn solidly Republican in Presidential elections in the 1950s – it may well also be the first to turn back to become solidy Democratic.
And everyone please remember that Newt Gingrinch is a carpetbagger from Pennsylvania and then moved to Cobb County so please do not blame Georgia (okay, you can blame those nutcases in Cobb County – even the rest of Georgia laughs at Cobb County) for him. Thank you :)
on November 7th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
aadila,
I think the point was not that there is no danger in GM food but that people such as yourself who preach those dangers are unlikely to take up arms and kill people who produce/eat such food.
You, ahhh, aren’t going to kill me if I eat this massive tomato in front of me…..right?
on November 7th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
“A country where the whites did the fighting and the government puts them on the back burner …”
Well, Jeb, I’m guessing you’ve never seen the movie “Glory” or heard of the Buffalo Soldiers or the Tuskegee Airmen, just to name a few non-”white” units that fought with distinction for the United States. You’re also presumably aware that Mexican settlers were among the people who were massacred at the Alamo or fought alongside Sam Houston at San Jacinto. Etc. etc. etc.
I guess it’s just easier to construct this notion of “white” identity if you back it up with an imaginary “white” version of history.
“… all the pc brow-beating is not going to stop their anger.”
Especially for people who want to wave away inconvenient facts by referring to them as “pc brow-beating.”
on November 7th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
so much ‘Christian Hate’… so much worse than ‘Muslim Rage’, because at least the latter is based on some rational witnessing of our bombs in their yards.
Yet these words of Christian Hate, by Christian Haters, are like snowflakes on my glove… they melt away.
Jesus didn’t hate Christian Haters… did he?
on November 7th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Founded by whites, damn straight, but you have to add founded by whites who considered all men to be created equal. The southern white trash in question did NOTHING to help found this nation, they were too busy lining their pockets with money made off the backs of slaves to do any “founding”, and then they fought a war to protect their system of money for nothing, and LOST, BADLY, in fact they ran away as fast as they could, lazy, big mouthed cowards of the highest degree.
on November 7th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
CM,
They weren’t the majority.. not even by a longshot. I don’t watch movies. So since there were one or two at the Alamo a unit in the North, and the Tuskegee airman, (they could beat the nazis no problem) whites are supposed to ignore their legitimate concerns. Don’t think I get tear jerked by your stories. What about the 600,000 whites in the civil war, the 550,000 whites(died in combat) in WWII, 34,000 in Korea, 50,000 in ‘Nam. Am I supposed to forget their contribution? So because of those tiny contributions whites are supposed to ignore theirs. CM.. you hate whites and want them controlled. It is not going to happen.
on November 7th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Alan, that may well be so but calling scientifically substantiated research “idiotic and bizarre” is not what I would call a reasoned argument.
Better to say that “although the right wing likes to try to demonize the left, it is only the right wing that is apt to take up violent methods” or something of the sort, rather than suggest both left and right wing are crazy but only the right wing is violent.
One of the justifications for right wing violence is there are so-called left wing “radical” groups the SPLC never documents, yet no one can ever seem to produce them. Hence my concern about lending credence to false ideas in order to create a rhetorical appositive between left and right wings. I don’t take issue with the argument that right wingers are prone to violence.
And no, of course I wouldn’t kill you for eating a tomato but the pesticides in it might.
on November 7th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Alan the “massive tomatoes” I grow in my “organic” garden are “genetically modified” only through careful selection by generations of gardeners. I think you’ll find that Monsanto is much more interested in engineering tomatoes that are all the same size, have a long shelf life, and don’t taste good even to pests.
on November 7th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Erika,
When I said the Red States should make reparations I mean stuff like eating more tofu and putting marriage equality stickers on their cars.
Sorry if I startled you.
If it ever does come to reparations I think you would be entitled to a progressive activist voucher that would exempt you from the punitive measures. In fact I think you would be a fine UN helmeted inspector to ensure compliance in your home state.
on November 7th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Please be aware that the term ‘riot’ may be a stretch at Ole Miss. Some students here are very upset about this – most may have been there to watch a small number of students protesting and counter-protesting. It could be as small as 0.002 to 0.02% of the student body. If it were a northern school (we had racial incidents at UW-Madison) it wouldn’t be getting so much attention. Let’s not sensationalize until we figure out what happened or it hurts all the kids here.
on November 7th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Great. Let’s elect a woman 4 years from now and make them even angrier!!!
on November 7th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
The ignorance exhibited by some of the Far Right lunatics is simply astounding. Yeah, pack up your bags and jump the next plane to Europe. But what a surprise awaits when you get off the plane and discover Europe to be multi-cultural, too. AND, far more leftist than America ever thought about being. If these people weren’t so scary in their ignorance and fear this would all be hilarious.
on November 7th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
How can you tell what color people are on
Twitter? Does their typing style give them away?
on November 7th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
NEPTUNE, I second the motion. Kathleen Sebelius, anyone?
on November 7th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
What legitimate concerns, Jeb? A lot of the people here are white. So am I. I have felt dioscriminated against on occasion because of gender, surname (and assumptions made because of it), religious affiliations or lack of them, political opinion, who I was married to, or even height, but never being classed as “white”, not even when I lived in non-white or non-Anglo neighborhoods. The only concern you seem to have is not getting automatic preferential treatment. Sorry, boy, this is America and you’re not special. Pull on the oars like the rest of us.
on November 7th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Re: massive tomatos: some are normal hybrids, like Porterhouse, and some are actually open-pollinated, like Delicious and Cherokee, but those designed for home gardening are not genetically engineered. A hybrid, resulting from cross-pollination, and an open-pollinated tomato are equally nutritious, and they can be crossed with each other. Terminator strains and vegetables with, say, cricket genes are for agricultural use.
on November 7th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
By the way, this is off topic but can anyone tell me how long the decriminalization of recreational cannabis use will last in Colorado and Washington?
DEA seems to be getting excited about it, but decriminalization seems like a good approach to harm reduction in the prison/justice system from both a cost and human rights perspective.
The prison industry may not like it though.
on November 7th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
I guess I’m gonna have to move to Canada to escape this sweeping Socialism…Oh, wait…
on November 7th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Jeb,
“CM.. you hate whites and want them controlled.”
And you know this about me how? Oh, of course – anyone who tries to point out the stupidity of your vacuous comments must be anti-”white.” It couldn’t possibly be, say, that I’m really just anti-stupidity.
on November 7th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Reynardine,
Don’t tell me how it is and don’t call me boy.. GOT IT.. That is why the left is hated so much. You are control freaks. I’ve never been discriminated against by anybody but what is concerning is the effort made by groups to shut white people up and marginalize their experience on this land. Yeah.. I’m only concerned about preferential treatment.. you know . That which comes white privelege or whatever lefty word you folks use to disguise your hatred of whites that identify as white. REally.. I’m not special but all those getting affirmative action are.
on November 7th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Who hates white people? We’re sitting here talking about tomatoes for crying out loud.
on November 7th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
After reading this article, I feel the need to take a shower. If the hatemongers are dismayed at our election results, then I am even happier. And as a “white” person, I am overjoyed to hear that “The white establishment is now the minority.” I want a world where we ALL have a place at the table.
And the3 haters who suggest moving to Europe will be shocked when they arrive to find medical coverage for all, environmental regulations much tighter than ours, loads of non-white citizens and all the things they hate, much stronger than here in the US. If this is the Old Guard, let the world end: it’s not MY world!
on November 7th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
The “something close to a landslide” phrase at the beginning of the article was not a wise choice of words. At the moment, the popular vote puts Obama/Biden ahead of Romney/Ryan by a bit more than 2%, The Electoral Vote has Obama/Biden ahead of Romney/Ryan by about 23.5%. Seeing as we elect our presidents by electoral vote and not popular vote it could be considered a landslide, but the closeness of the popular vote should make us all sit back and ponder. Sadly, we are a divided country.
on November 7th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
By the way, my commentary on this election would not be complete without expressing my congratulations to Hawaii’s Mazie Hirono (a Democrat), the first Asian-American woman to be elected to the Senate! She is also the first Buddhist senator as far as I know, which is significant given there are close to three million Buddhists in the United States, many of Asian ancestry.
on November 7th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
I’m glad SPLC is keeping a close eye on some of the more radical groups, but remember, it was individuals, often loners, who decided to target JFK, RFK, Dr. King, and others. I just hope that the bodyguards and people around Obama are extra vigilant in the coming weeks and months. As a symbol of what people fear about the change in this country, he has never been in more danger right now. It will take some time before the huge changes taking place in this country become normal. Until then, we have to reach deep into our collective genius and find a third way between the left and right.
on November 7th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
You alone get to call nonwhites “boy”, do you, Jeb? I called you “boy” because I assume you are male and younger than I am. If you are not being discriminated against, which you admit, then you must be snarling and whining because you have some exalted idea of yourself which is not being reflected back to you. Get over yourself, you conceited little snot.
on November 7th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
The idea that these crackpots (dangerous ones at that) want to emigrate to Europe is desirable for us on the continent of N. America, however I fear the Europeans would not let them enter, to which who could blame them. But if they did gather in a collective group maybe they could be penned and medicated, fortunately Obama care would be there for them.
on November 7th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Well, I say to those sad pathetic people who now want to leave the Country, because the President has won re-election…I say, Good Bye, and don’t let the door hit you in your racist asses on the way out of the Country…
on November 7th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Where were you guys when we were on the side of threats,lies and Obama wanting revenge ? This has gone on for 4 yrs and now when it’s reversed or they get a mirror image, you show up ?
Hate crimes aren’t white against black…they are people against people.
Hate @ this administration was self created. Our prez has shown racial prejudice long before we even heard of him.
I respect your cause,but not when it’s blindly one-sided. White people are at the end of the stick now.
Time to rethink…
on November 7th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Jeb, cry us a river. Seriously.
on November 7th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Funniest comment of all is from the guy saying get ready to move to Europe!!!! Clearly, this person has never been there, because it’s the most racially mixed place on earth beside Los Angeles!! Thank you, SPLC for all you do, and God Bless this country which somehow managed to do the right thing, reelecting President Obama
on November 7th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
“America will resemble Zimbabwe (economically) in a few years …”
Which is silly; besides, they would prefer the days of South Africa before Mandela.
on November 7th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
In spite of the hate toward our President, I have a feeling that he’ll be able to work with Republicans to pass good policies. I wish the haters would accept our country’s changing demographics and seek professional help for their insecurities.
on November 7th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
It didn’t take long for the nutjobs to wander in. While this may have been entirely expected and predictable, it is still a harbinger of things to come.
on November 7th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
I have supported the SPLC for years. I am somewhat amazed that they have printed so many comments — to the point where most people (instead of commenting, are actually arguing with each other and indulging in “bully-ing”) and when we are aware of so many HATE groups in this country, I think we should realize how DANGEROUS this is to us all. It is too late to “teach tolerance” to many of these opinionated people. My biggest fear is that now, since the election, the hate groups will increase far beyond our imagaination. I am, truly afraid for people of color and urge them to always be “looking over their shoulders.”
on November 7th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
As a long-time supporter of SPLC, I’m very glad you are keeping a close watch on the hate groups. I ran into a few traveling through the upper Great Plains this summer. Very sad.
But remember that it was individuals, usually loners, who decided to take out Lincoln, JFK, RFK, Dr. King, and others. I hope they double and triple the protection and watch around Obama in the coming weeks and months. He’s the symbol of what those who think they are losing their country fear and hate.
on November 7th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
I am not amazed with the people who think this insanity I just wonder how they can really live in this reality. The whole idea of silent government takeover and all the other stuff is just over a top so far up I do not know how they got up there. The idea that people can believe a book written by different men who had no idea they were writing the same book. That said book was not put together till all writers were dead. Then 200 years later it had an editorial rewrite and yet it is the literal word of god. In all the man written holy books there is only one thing anyone need follow, it might be said different in each book. It comes down to this do unto others as you would have others do unto you follow this and all falls into place.
on November 7th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Mark Potok,
If anyone thought the radical right was going away, they were guilty of wishful thinking.
on November 7th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
You’re kidding right?
All the White Nationalists I know voted FOR Obama…..
April Gaede
on November 7th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
A few hours ago, someone wrote about the laws passed in Colorado and Washington legalizing marijauna.
Marijauna is illegal under federal law. Federal law trumps state law. Where will Eric Holder be on this issue?
The really silly thing about these laws are that they would prohibit people under 21 years of age from smoking pot, even though 18 years old could vote for the law.
This is typical left wing nonsense.
18 year olds are allowed to vote, but this law doesn’t allow them to smoke pot.
18 year olds can’t buy alcohol or gamble in casinos, but Democrats thought it would be a good idea for them to vote, after spending 12 years being brain washed by liberal teachers.
on November 7th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Yeah, the ignoramuses come out of the woodwork again but I’ve got to say that I think the internet is a blessing for twits like this because it gives them an outlet in which they can whine and type in all caps and grumble and I think we’d rather have more of that than actual displays of childish and hateful anger inflicted on actual people or in real life. Having said that I know full well that there is still that real threat but I think that the fact that these dolts have outlets like AM radio, HAM radio (yes laugh if you want, but it’s still very much alive) and of course internet access probably is a good thing so that they can throw their virtual temper tantrums and think they are being taken seriously.
on November 7th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Elisa,
You said “Liberals living in non-liberal areas need to be EXTRA vigilant…” I’m a progressive living in Blount County Alabama, and I’ve been saying for a long time that if President Obama is re-elected, my husband and I are going to fear for our lives. Our neighbor is a white Postal Service employee. They get the day off on Martin Luther King Day, and every year on that day he flies his rebel flag. These people all have guns. My husband and I keep to ourselves and don’t talk to our neighbors for fear of their finding out that we voted for Obama. I have no problem with owning guns – I used to have a pistol – and I’m thinking about arming myself for protection against these right-wing lunatics. We’re the ones who are considering a move to Europe – or at least to a blue state.
on November 7th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
If the Fourth Reich extremists don’t like it, they know where the “door” is. Now they know how we felt when they worshipped Bush like he’s a God. Unlike the shrub, Obama has bee legitimately elected twice. Junior can’t say that. If they don’t like it, maybe they should learn to treat people better and stop lying, stop cheating and stop suppression voters like typical fascists. All they want is to steal everyone’s money and turn us into virtual slaves. What’s next with the sociopaths? Put Liberals, etc. into concentration and death camps? As they use to say to us: Get over it! They’re just plain MEAN. They’ve been spreading the propaganda around for so long, they believe their own lies. They have been brainwashed beyond belief.
The citizens of this country are not Republican property and women are not baby machines for their utopian society. Until they figure that out, they’ll never get it. As I’ve heard someone else say before, they’ve become their very own anti-Christ. They don’t feel anything but hate and fear, and they’ll wind up destroying themselves because of it. If they want to do that, I don’t much care. They’ve destroyed enough lives in the US, Iraq and Afghanistan and have done nothing but blame everyone else under the sun.
Why do they think so many women were elected into office, too? The Rethugs don’t care about women. We’re just pieces on a chessboard, not even human to them. We’re just another thing they want to possess and control.
Do they really think Europe wants them? They’re more likely to be arrested for being the war criminals they are. Go ahead and leave. Good riddance. They should crawl back under the rocks they came from and leave us alone. There’s enough evil in this world and we don’t need their evil behavior ruining this country. They should be in a mental institution; not in any political office whatsoever.
on November 7th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
In California the argument was Prop 37 labeling of GMO products for me. Please watch ” David vs Monsanto ” On,
http://www.youtube.com. It is a real eye opener!
As far as how the radical right feel, (I wonder how many waited hours to vote?) they can’t feel as blue as I did as when the election was stolen and Voters were disen -franchised in Florida and Dubya Bush was installed by the court. Put the blame for our current economy on anyone but our Nation’s choice in this election for President. He is truly a Great Man!
on November 7th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
I wouldn’t mind too much if the South did secede. Anyone for encouraging them? Sorry, that’s just a gut reaction; I wouldn’t want SPLC to leave the Union. Thanks for continuing to work so hard for tolerance.
on November 7th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
People who have no self-respect, have a secret hatred of themselves. The only thing that provides them with some relief is to have a target group to hate, or two, or more. This is what right wing extremists are all about – self-abhorrence.
on November 7th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
To all those of you who think America as we know ended last night because President Barack Obama won re-election, I say “shame on you!” What happened last night was the triumph of democracy, not some kind of knuckle-head conspiracy to destroy the United States of America. Of course, the country is getting browner each year but unless you are by nature “racist,” why would that bother you? To those who are talking of emigrating to Europe, I say “Hurry up!” and “Farewell and good riddance!” This great country will be a lot better off without you. And as another commentator aptly pointed out, be ready for the shock because many of the so-called Obama/Liberal “evils” await you there and in many cases, are “worse” than what we have here.
on November 7th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
What a group of imbeciles
on November 7th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
OMG Reading all these replies is sickening, Let me tell you how it is. I went to a Birthday Party for my 1 year old grand daughter the other day. There were black, white,biracial, hispanic kids and thier parents at the party. And guess what…all the kids were playing together. All the parents were socializing. No one was even thinking,,,that is a black person, that is a white person. Everyone was getting along, and that is how it is supposed to be. This is 2012,,,,The Civil war has been over for a long time. Get it together people.
on November 7th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Heard this on TV recently:
“Hate is the anger of the weak,
thus hate thrives on the weak.
Whether it hides behind a mask
or becomes the ideology of an entire nation,
hate is a cancer that devours the conscience
and begets stupidity.
This contempt of others feeds on ignorance
like maggots on rotting flesh.”
on November 7th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
I have read most of these post and did not know that so many “mixed nuts” viewed site.
Its really scary on both of the far sides.
on November 7th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Are you sure the Ole Miss frat boys were upset about Obama’s reelection? They could be acting out because their joke of a football program is at the bottom of the SEC, again.
Seriously though, don’t these dumbfucks realize that Europe is far more “liberal” (as they would define it) than the US? And living with the French…. Oh, the fucking French. ;)
on November 7th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Jeb, your ignorance of Texas history and the battle of the Alamo is abysmal. go back to school.
on November 7th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Actually, I have been seeing reports of Klanners & Nazis who are happy that Obama was re-elected because they see him as being against Israel.
on November 7th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
It’s frightening to see America so divided… and a reactionary right-wing so hateful that we have to fear terrorism from inside our own country more than from outside it.
This election, from a popular vote standpoint, was too close for comfort. I am shocked and saddened by the number of people who voted for Romney/Ryan, who blatantly and consistently lied about easily checked facts, openly said they didn’t care about almost half our citizens and so clearly were for BIG government when it comes to our bodies and our freedoms.
I would encourage all hate-mongering right-wingers to emigrate immediately – perhaps those big-money oil folks can dredge up a big island somewhere in the middle of the Pacific. I’d happily contribute toward a big electric fence around it.
on November 7th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
“Don’t tell me how it is and don’t call me boy.. GOT IT..”
Got it, boy.
” That is why the left is hated so much. You are control freaks.”
Actually the left is hated because there has been 30 years of right wing propaganda aimed at moving the country to the right.
” I’ve never been discriminated against by anybody but what is concerning is the effort made by groups to shut white people up and marginalize their experience on this land.”
Well at least you admit that you haven’t been discriminated against. Non-white people usually aren’t so lucky. How the hell are you marginalized? In Arizona they banned ethnic studies, which automatically supports the white-dominated historical narrative. History books tend to marginalize minorities even when trying to include them.
” Yeah.. I’m only concerned about preferential treatment.. you know . That which comes white privelege or whatever lefty word you folks use to disguise your hatred of whites that identify as white. ”
White privilege means that you get to vent your spleen over any little perceived offense and get consideration in the mainstream, while a minority doing the same is said to be playing the race card, talking too much about race, etc.
Also, this country wasn’t founded by “whites” but rather British, Dutch, and Germans mostly.
on November 7th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Are you sure the Ole Miss frat boys were not pissed about their dismal football program, which is at the bottom of the SEC, again?
Serially, don’t these morons know that Europe is way more liberal (as they would define it), than the US?
You know what’s worse than a raging bigot? A stupid, ignorant, raging bigot.
on November 7th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Did anyone tell them that if they move to Europe, that there is already socialized medicine there? And a lot of black people, and it isn’t a crime to be black.
on November 7th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Carolyn at Ole Miss: Why aren’t people from Ole Miss strongly condemning this behavior in the strongest terms instead of engaging in apologetics and trying to sweep the whole thing under the rug. So, some good ole boys will just be good old boys, is that it?
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
It’s too bad that simply recognizing race in our demographics if you believe in a Constitutional Republic government is considered racist. If you are a liberal socialist, it is alright to recognize racial make up. Your labeled a conservative racist if you believe in the system that produced the greatest and most fruitful society ever known to mankind. What is it going to take to wake up this way of thinking? Another $16 trillion in debt, another 23 million unemployed, a declining educational system with continuing low test scores or another 47 million on food stamps. God have mercy on us.
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Jeb,
Your white history of manifest destiny and forcibly removing Native Americans from their lands only to put them on reservations and not honor any of the treaties between the U.S. government and the tribes is something to certainly celebrate. After all, the white experience has written the master narrative of this country, dictating what is taught in schools, especially when it comes to history. The white experience has also deemed it to be okay to use cultural appropriation and dress up in war bonnets, use us as mascot and continue to portray us incorrectly in film. That’s not honoring us at all, as some like to say. This is continued racism and oppression toward Native Americans, and the internalization and institutionalization of this must cease and desist. It’s time to change the master narrative and share the story of all people, not just the whites.
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
I was came upon this article via a post on facebook. I appreciate the importance of monitoring this type of hate. But this article seems to just be giving an additional megaphone and increased legitimacy to these sentiments. The internet is full of the worst of aspects of humanity, many of them people who are craving attention or validation. The posts on those boards should not be given either. The tone of this article also seems to aim more for sensationalism than observance or analysis. It only serves to shock and terrify, like any juicy gossip. Please don’t add fuel to the fire. Let law enforcement, investigative journalists, and sociologists deal with it.
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
I am white and had a celebratory lunch with a black friend today. One of the bazillion topics we talked about was the Fox News team comments and this a.m.’s conversation on the Joe Scarborough show about the changing demographics of the country. My friend asked me if I am worried about becoming a racial minority. The best way I could answer her was to speak what I have been thinking. If white folks begin to find ourselves more and more a minority in a nation of increasing color variety, I guess we’d better hope that the African-American, Latino, Asian, Middle-Eastern folks around us are willing to give us the benefit of the doubt and treat us more kindly than folks of our color have treated them. It’s going to take some faith, and a lot of hope. But isn’t it worth it? I’m excited about my future community.
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Did I here right. Back to Europe. Let me know and I will chip in to send them back. But I doubt they would want them.
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Draw a perfect circle with political left half of the circle on the left part of the circle and the political right part of the circle on the right half. Take a pen and start tracing the political left from the top of the circle to the bottom, and trace the political right drawing on the right side of the circle from the top of the circle to the very bottom. Note they meet at the top, no difference between the two groups at the top (both are the same and we call moderates), at the very bottom of the circle (the pits of Hell) they do not differ, i.e., the radical, fanatical right and left meet and show the same intrusive, non-productive, viscious behaviors.
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
“Don’t tell me how it is and don’t call me boy.. GOT IT.. ”
Feeling threatened by Reynardine’s words, are you, Jeb? LOL!
on November 8th, 2012 at 1:03 am
Whatch out world we’re losing some of our FOX News, Beckbots , a little off-kilter citizens, and they are coming your way. Be prepared to regress a few years in the process of civilization.
on November 8th, 2012 at 2:03 am
Jeb,
Knock it off! You’ve never been discriminated against in your life either and I will laugh my ass off when you finally do. I may be white, but I’m female and grew up with a bunch of ignorant rednecks like you. I know what discrimination is and it has always been at the hands of some redneck, stupid white male so you and your good ‘ol boys can go straight to hell now.
I’ve got family that is just as stupid as you are. One of them is a racist just like you who could have done better for herself, but married the redneck felon from hell instead. I’ve got a cousin that is a moronic birther who’s rabidly islamaphobic. Neither of them fought for this country, but I did so my opinion gets to carry more weight…all you white supremacists are nothing but completely stupid! I’m so damn glad the family showed themselves in this election. Now I have fewer people to deal with at the dinner table over the holidays.
on November 8th, 2012 at 4:20 am
I am increasingly concerned by the tone of the commentary on this site, although I am not naive about the presence and activity of right wing hate groups. I am concerned that Potok lacks what a progressive and activist teacher educator I know calls “a dialectic of cynicism and joy” meaning that activists need to know and project that life can be joyful. For instance, there is even reason for joy in Obama’s victory! The reality is that some of the most dangerous of the right-wing racist and wealthy spent hundreds of millions on this election, and they could not win! Let’s spend some time being happy about that even as we continue to devote time and energy to all of the “Occupy” related causes including opposition to rightwing hate groups.
I also fear that you inflame the right wing when you take this tone of always offering the most bleak possible interpretation of political reality. They will out-bleaken you in response. “We’ll show you what misery is, what heightening of misery we can cause!” (Listen to the tone of some of those responses on this site)
Finally, when you sound like life as a progressive activist allying with others and experiencing that “we could all be one” is a pure misery, why should anybody want to join in the struggle? Sincerely, Barbara
on November 8th, 2012 at 4:36 am
Whne will the SPLC stop with the inflamation of an already violite topic? They appear to do this simply to pocket some cash.
Yes, there are right-wing extemists, just like there are those on the left and I see little coverage of the extreme leftists. Not to mention the considerable bias of the main steam media.
Extremists on BOTH sides of the topic need to be taught that their thoughts are unacceptable and not be tolerated, just like the OBVIOUS electioneering laws whch were broken by the left in MANY places.
We have problems in this nation, but working together is the answer, not more mud slinging.
Obama promised to bring the nation together when he ran in 2008 and he now appears to have his second term so will he do what he promised and FAILED to do?
on November 8th, 2012 at 4:51 am
I was leaning towards Romney on coal/keystone pipeline, and expanding free trade agreements; that said, if the republicans wish to embrace insanity then get used to democrats ruling for a while. The biggest problem is there is no sane opposition. The lunatics have overtaken them.
on November 8th, 2012 at 5:05 am
I have a concern about how this post introduced/framed; and a larger question.
My candidate won on Tuesday, but by no means do I feel it was lopsided or a landslide. Mandate, maybe. Repudiation of those determined to make Mr. Obama a one-term president, yes. But not a landslide. I’m not sure what purpose this exaggeration serves, other than to give a sense of legitimacy to the even worse hyperbole used by extremist groups.
My larger question is: Instead of seeming to always be in a reaction mode to these extremists’ actions, are there efforts to anticipate and educate — to be proactive about it? For example, white people aren’t a minority. And the projections of that happening decades from now are based on demographics today being extrapolated into the future. One or two relatively small changes in birth rates, death rates, immigration rates could change all that. So, are there any voices of reason out there explaining these facts to people?
on November 8th, 2012 at 5:25 am
Move to Europe? They should just move to Colorado.
on November 8th, 2012 at 5:30 am
Right now the biggest mouths in the business(hannity,limbaugh,Levine) are in meltdown trying to explain why Romney lost the election.They suggest he was not conservative enough,though I didn’t hear the RINO word used this time around. Tune in and watch them squirm.
on November 8th, 2012 at 5:54 am
I am 78 with 21+ years retired military. Why is this a surprise to anyone? We live in a racist, bigoted, anti-Semitic country. I live in central Florida–been here for over 30 years. The war is not in Afghanistan-it’s in your neighborhood, municipality, county, state and the nation. Why is this election so close? Because there is a civil war going on-which will get nasty–hope not–Thank your God or pet stone for the SPLC.
on November 8th, 2012 at 6:04 am
If any of these racist crybabies emigrate to Europe, they will find three things. 1) It is really expensive, which is the only reason that I don’t live there; 2) It is just as diverse as the USA; and 3) Lots of people don’t even – gasp – speak English.
It is interesting that their Golden Age for white people begins in 1500, when Europe gave their greatest historical gifts to the rest of the world – colonialism, the slave trade, and genocide against native populations, and continues through WWI, WWII and the Holocaust.
on November 8th, 2012 at 6:11 am
After, reading this article, I look forward to the succession of the south. The USA would be a better place without all the bigotry and hate that spews from the teabagging rednecks. Can I sign a petition or something to move it along a little faster and get you out of this great country? For those of your heading over to Europe or up to Canda in your mass immigration, you do realize they have socialized healthcare and many other examples of progressive socialism? I suspect you will all be like Rush Limbaugh, who promised us he’d move to Costa Rica if Obamacare passed. It would take a little education on your part, which would be a step forward from what I’ve read, but you will find that everything you HATE about Obama and the liberal US is alive and well in those countries. Unfortunately for the rest of us, that means you’ll end up staying here and we’ll have to listen to your crying and ranting and temper tantrums in the future. Bottomline, own up to your threat and LEAVE and please let me know if I can help you pack and get you on your way!
on November 8th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Jeb, you adorable fried green tomato, do you happen to be the same person as James? Because you sound awfully similar to JasonAnnieEzraJessicaLewJames. Okay, you haven’t said that “antiracism is antiwhite” yet, but you are getting there. May i suggest that your next name be Adolf Hilter Dumbkopf, III? Or simply sign everything as “The Committee of Idiots” – i mean if you keep changing your name how are we supposed to ignore you?
As far as hating white people, you do realize that i’m white so to hate white people i would have to hate myself and just about everyone around me. That would be much too much hatred for one little peach to handle. So it should be pretty clear that i do not hate white people.
However, it is odd that you respond to the white people here who disagree with you with accusations that they must hate white people. Maybe you actually are the one who hates white people. Ever think of that? Ever think of anything? :P
And your posts make it clear that your problems with getting past the fourth grade or getting a job have nothing to do with affirmative action and everything to do with your deficincies of the mind, spirit, and body.
And why do you object to being called boy? Does it remind you of your inadequacies in size and performance? Would you prefer insecure little man instead? How about tiny?
Now sweetie, be a dear and run along and play your dress up game with your friends. Are you going to play the one where you pretend to be Nazi warriors fighting Communists? Or maybe the one where you pretend to be ghosts with pointed heads? Or perhaps you would prefer the one where you pretend to be Vikings? Or do you want to play the one where you play a captured Nazi being “interrogated” roughly by a female Red Army officer?
You know, speaking of female Red Army officers, JasonAnnieEzraJessicaLewJamesJeb, you still haven’t sent me the Red Army officer uniform that you said you were going to send me.
Is the Third Reich Room at the Women in Control Theater in Blue Ball, PA getting boring again? Is the little racist boy not getting enough attention?
How many times do i have to tell you that if you are looking for humilation and domination you are barking up the wrong peach tree here? ;)
on November 8th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Something else burns
when the sputtering flames
tie up the dark
at freedom’s doors
something else burns
when the children of the lamb
are lashed to hate’s tree
something else burns
when the preachers of the greatest gifts
are the preachers of hate.
Move from my land
you denizens of fear,
leave my lakes alone leave me
with my fervent love
with my welcome to the rights
of every breathing resident
who lives and dies under my flag
not the flag of skin or sex
just the wind of liberty
Something else burns
when your dreams arrive
step by step
achingly slow,
not even in my time,
with heartbreak and fists raised
something else burns.
on November 8th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Predictable reactions, I’m afraid. But The Future Always Wins.
on November 8th, 2012 at 7:23 am
I am only surprised that this occured in only one place. I had expected these far right crazies to be in larger numbers. Look at what they were ranting—e.g. Obama phones. Straight misinformation gleaned from Fox News. Those phones were started by Bush. I think the best thing that could happen to our country, is to have everyone of these racist, extreme Right wingers export themselves somewhere else. The fact they were Students, is remarkable. Must be “KKK101″ is a required subject.
on November 8th, 2012 at 7:24 am
“I’ve never been discriminated against by anybody but what is concerning is the effort made by groups to shut white people up and marginalize their experience on this land.”
Give us an example of any group trying to “shut white people up”. Turn on the TV to practically any channel, any time, and all you hear is white people not shutting up.
“REally.. I’m not special but all those getting affirmative action are.”
No, actually, if you’re white, you are special. You are treated differentially better in virtually any social sphere, simply because of the skin color you were born with. The deck is stacked in your favor from birth, period. This isn’t a “liberal” impression. It is born out by research and common sense.
on November 8th, 2012 at 7:28 am
I woke up this morning here in snowy NH to see a headline in the Concord Monitor, DEMOCRATS TAKE THE HOUSE.
I couldn’t believe it! The Grand Outdated Party had a 2/3 majority! Now there are 75 fruitcakes available for the next Tea Party bake sale!
75 extremist representatives cast out! NH woke up and realized that 2 years of theocratic nonsense and corporatist zeal was not the NH way
on November 8th, 2012 at 7:29 am
April,
Are you telling us that YOU voted for Obama?
on November 8th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Im a liberal progressive, and I have to say, I don’t things will ever get better- world wide the christian right is getting more and more intolerant. Larger coutries all over Europe have split up, and I would support just letting the south walk away- Mason dixon to the missisppi river. There would be a lot more peace in this country. Anyone need relocation assistance from the south, Im sure there will be millions of us willing to help you up here. How many more of our children do you want to sacrifice trying to make oil and water mix?
on November 8th, 2012 at 7:42 am
I am a European and I do not want these sociopathic ignorant dangerous people in Europe! Unfortunately we already have enough of our own. It is ironic that these racists are living in the South which was built by labor of slavery, they are unaware of their own history. Without conscience, without empathy for their fellow human beings, in my book, they are the very personification of evil on Earth.
on November 8th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Republicans hate it when democracy can’t be bought or stolen. They tried everything they could think of from lies to voter suppression and still got their asses kicked. The red states can secede if they want to, but better remember that their football teams will also have to secede with them. So long Cowboys. I can’t wait.
on November 8th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Mohawk,
I believe what happened to the Indian was a travesty and do not celebrate the white narrative on the events. Half of the United States should be given back to the Indian immediately.
on November 8th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Emigrate to Europe? Which socialist nation do they want to emigrate to?
on November 8th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Let them leave. I will not take up arms and stop them from making a different country. Lincoln tried and got it wrong. Saving the nation with these people is fruitless. They have had 150 years to grow up I do not see additional time helping. Leave. I will not stop you.
on November 8th, 2012 at 8:21 am
My main reaction to the reelection of Barack Obama is relief. I was prepared for the right to try to make Obama their janitor to clean up their mess and then claim credit for the recovery. We are still in great financial straits, but the best man for the job has won.
The rage and gnashing of teeth on the right is expected. Still I fear for the President and his family’s safety.The vitriol and hatred towards minorities in this country make it even more vital that there is such an important organization as the SPLC. There work tracking extremist hate groups becomes more important as the hatemongers prepare for action against what they perceive as a threat to their ‘whiteness”. Thank you SPLC and keep up the great work!
on November 8th, 2012 at 8:27 am
P.Dixon,
Once again, the far right demonstrates its deep historical knowledge: The voting age in the U.S. was lowered to 18 from 21 in 1971, during the Nixon administration. Nixon, in case you don’t know, was a Republican. And the reason the age was lowered was simple fairness: 18-year-olds were being drafted into the U.S. military and sent to fight and die in Vietnam but couldn’t cast a vote for or against the politicians who caused the whole mess. So it had nothing to do with the educational system, but nice job of working that right-wing theme into a totally unrelated topic.
on November 8th, 2012 at 8:28 am
James,
Obviously the spanking the Republicans received in this election did nothing to educate you, judging by your talk of “liberal spending”.
There are TWO sides to a deficit, spending and revenue. Our deficit is as much due to spending as it is to tax cuts and recession: both caused by Bush. In fact the number one problem for the deficit is that revenue is down, not that spending is up.
Please get your facts straight. George W. Bush added twice as much spending to our current accounts than Obama. When Obama took office, it was already the worst recession since the Great Depression and the stimulus spending was approved by Congress and the Republicans as the ONLY thing to do.
And when you talk about “Obama” spending, it is Congress that sets the budget, dummy. The President only proposes a budget to Congress. Congress takes it from there.
If you would bother to inform yourself of the facts here is a chart from the St. Louis fed that utterly destroys your argument about “adding to the deficit”. What is adding to the deficit is that House Republicans refuse to raise taxes or give an inch on anything even though they are clearly in the political minority.
This idea people have somehow that Republicans don’t spend and Democrats do is one of the biggest lies of the past four years. Read it and weep:
http://research.stlouisfed.org.....es/FGEXPND
on November 8th, 2012 at 8:28 am
I especially applaud the comments of Rev. Jane Eagle, with which I heartily agree. We all deserve a place at the table -
hopefully some of these hatemongers will look at the hate they are spewing and take an inventory of their inner self
on November 8th, 2012 at 8:31 am
GET OVER IT HATEMONGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on November 8th, 2012 at 8:39 am
I voted for Dr.Jill Stein for President.I don’t believe in the duopoly of the Republicans/Democrats.In this country,we have a choice between Coke/Pepsi and we are given the illusion of choice.It’s time for more than the duopoly of the business class(or the 1% to be more accurate).Anyone who thought there was any difference between Obama/Romney already has the wool pulled over their eyes.I am very happy that Tammy Baldwin won though.I think a woman’s place is in the House and Senate.
on November 8th, 2012 at 8:45 am
legalhound,
Sorry you can’t eat with your family. Sounds like your inability to control your emotions might be the problem. I offer a perspective and you lash out with offensive term “redneck” and offer directions to hell. I thought you’re a tolerant lefty that can reason through everything without interjecting stereotypical labels. Guess not.. since redneck is acceptable. Your experience with your family should afford you a “teaching tolerance” opportunity. They sound a bit extreme so only offer hints to begin with. Also, don’t get behind the wheel of a car today. What I have learned from my brief venture to this site is the level of emotion directed into every entry. It is truly concerning.
on November 8th, 2012 at 8:48 am
“the radical, fanatical right and left meet and show the same intrusive, non-productive, viscious behaviors.”
I hear this time and time again but it always seems like an apology for right wing extremist. Yes, there are certainly far left people, just as there are right, but how can anyone who looks any deeper into the issue claim that the actions are the same?
The motives of the left wing are compassion, concern for humanity, a sense of the basic goodness of people, preservation of our planet, furthering tolerance and education. and looking at progressive change as a natural process of society. The left is far more dedicated to non-violence and harm reduction than the right, and the proliferation of hate groups tends to occur predominately on the right wing.
Whereas the mainstream left and even moderates are self critical and police their own, the right wing seems to walk in lockstep and practice denial about the predominance of racists and bigots that share the identical goals as most conservatives. Racism is not about wearing a sheet and burning crosses — that is just one manifestation. Racism is about how institutions stack against people of certain races, ethnicities, and creeds.
No white conservative needs to burn any crosses to cash in on racism…all they need to do to cash in on privilege is show up for a job interview, apply for a loan, or collect their inheritance of land wealth, as the case may be. There are very few people who consider themselves racists, but racism exists. If you deny racism exists, chances are you are adding to it, simply by trying to maintain the unjust status quo.
It just seems like such a cheap and easy argument to say, with great sweeping generalizations, that both right wing and left wing have extremists and they are doing exactly the same thing. Hate may be present everywhere the but the radical right put a trademark on it.
on November 8th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Let me see if I get this right. The extreme right hates what it perceives as “socialism,” “the nanny state,” and “universal health care,” yet these booby birds want to move to Europe…where most of the countries are “socialists” (per the extreme right’s definition) and are “nanny states” and have universal health care?
This proves that they have no critical thinking skills.
As they are moving eastward across the Atlantic, please remind them to pick up Karl Rove, Akin, Cheney, Bush II, etc. and take them along. We don’t need any of them.
on November 8th, 2012 at 9:04 am
“I offer a perspective and you lash out with offensive term “redneck” ”
Redneck is not a slur, Jeb. It is a term used with considerable pride in the South. But judging by your other comments, I’m not surprised because none of it has much bearing on the way things are.
on November 8th, 2012 at 9:04 am
I have to agree with April, many WN’s want Obama to be re-elected. While most of us would absolutely love to have a third party candidate, whether it be Merlin Miller or whoever, we know that there is this little dictatorship of the Two Party System, and might as well get worse before it gets better, and the Christian Identist people understand this all too well, especially seeing that most of us believe that WW3 is right around the corner, and might as have baby-crap Barry S be the Amurrican face of it. Of course, Mittens is not one of us at all and is just another pale treasonous sell out :) Much love.
on November 8th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Wanna know how far we’ve come as a country? The scene described at Ole Miss in this article is almost a blow by blow repeat of what happened there in 1962 when James Merideth tried to become the first black student to enroll there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ole_Miss_riot_of_1962
And here’s something else to think about, It was the re-election of Bill Clinton that started Tmothy McVeigh down the road to Oklahoma City…and where is the level of right-wing fear and hatred now as opposed to 1996?
on November 8th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Jeb said, “What I have learned from my brief venture to this site is the level of emotion directed into every entry.”
Like this, maybe?:
“CM.. you hate whites and want them controlled. It is not going to happen.”
Must be emotion, because it certainly isn’t reasoning. I asked you before, what basis do you have for accusing me of hating whites? You know nothing about me except what I’ve written here. It might be possible for you to argue that my comments are “anti-white,” but you have no basis for accusing me personally of being “anti-white.” So the accusation must be based purely on your anger at me for pointing out the historical misrepresentations in your earlier comments. And your most recent comment just reflects more hostility directed toward all the other people who have rejected your false opinions and specious arguments.
For the record, I am not “anti-white.” What I’m “anti-” is white supremacism or nationalism, which is what you’re advocating. I’m convinced that white supremacism is fundamentally anti-American. Anyone who believes in it must, for example, violate the Pledge of Allegiance, which describes “one nation” “indivisible” “with liberty and justice FOR ALL.”
Do you, Jeb, cross your fingers while you utter these words or silently amend them to “one White nation” “that I can secede from if I want to” “with liberty and justice for all Whites”? I’m starting to get the impression that you must really hate America.
on November 8th, 2012 at 9:21 am
The Working Class Perspective of the Socialist Equality Party
The disillusioned and dissatisfied electorate
8 November 2012
An initial analysis of the results of the Tuesday’s presidential election reveals one overriding element that is little noted in the American media: the staggering decline in voter turnout, and in particular the vote for President Barack Obama. More than anything else, the vote is the expression of an electorate that is disillusioned and increasingly alienated from the entire two-party political system.
The media, particularly the liberal and “left” supporters of the Democratic Party, were quick to hail the re-election of Obama as a major triumph. The International Socialist Organization, for example, began its editorial, “Barack Obama has won re-election, thanks to a strong turnout by the Democratic Party’s core supporters in every place the president needed to win.”
In fact, Obama saw a substantial drop in his vote across the board, with millions more Americans choosing not to vote in this election. Little remains of the enthusiasm of 2008, when Obama was swept into power on a wave of popular hostility to the Bush administration.
Obama’s total vote count was approximately 9 million less than what he received in 2008, falling from 69.5 million to 60.5 million, or by about 13 percent. For his part, Romney pulled in only 57.5 million votes, about 2.5 million less than John McCain in 2008. That is, Obama just barely received more votes than his Republican challenger four years ago.
The elections were characterized by a massive infusion of billions of dollars, with endless advertisements and media commentary over the course of nine months. The past four years have seen a significant growth in the number of eligible voters. However, in the end, the number of people voting fell by about 11 million. Particularly striking in California, a bastion of the Democratic Party, the total vote fell from 13.2 million in 2008 to only 9.2 million in 2012, with Obama receiving in that state more than a million fewer votes than the Democratic candidate in 2004, John Kerry.
Turnout declined in every state, according to Curtis Gans of the American University’s Center for the Study of the American Electorate. “This was a major plunge in turnout nationally,” he noted.
The sharp fall in Obama’s vote as he won his second term is virtually unprecedented in the history of American politics. It is in fact exceedingly rare for a president to win a second term with less votes than in the first election. George W. Bush, for example, increased his vote from 50 million in 2000 to 62 million in 2004. Clinton increased his vote from 45 million in 1992 to 47.5 million in 1996. Reagan increased his vote from 44 million in 1980 to 54.5 million in 1984.
Indeed, the last time that a president won reelection with a decline in his popular vote came in the elections of 1944 and 1940, as Franklin Delano Roosevelt saw his enormous advantage over his Republican challengers fall somewhat in his bids for third and fourth terms after his landslide election in 1932.
However, a comparison to Roosevelt’s votes is itself instructive in understanding the scale and significance of Obama’s decline. In 1936, Roosevelt was elected to a second term in the midst of the Great Depression, seven years after the Wall Street crash of 1929. In that election, FDR increased his popular vote from 23 million to 28 million, a growth of more than 20 percent. His Republican challenger, Alf Landon, won only 36.5 percent of the popular vote, carrying just two states, Vermont and Maine, for a total of eight electoral votes. In the next two elections, Roosevelt’s total vote fell to 27.3 million and then 25.6 million.
As with FDR, Obama was elected under conditions of deep economic and social crisis, taking over from the most hated president in US history, George Bush. However, in four years he managed to almost entirely dissipate whatever advantage he had over his Republican challengers.
The principal factor behind the different electoral trajectories of the two candidates is that FDR—driven by the fear of social revolution and resting on the still considerable resources of American capitalism—launched a significant program of social reform. In contrast, Obama has spent his four years in office extending and deepening the right-wing policies of his predecessor.
As a result, Obama found himself just barely able to defeat a Republican nominee who represents in the most crass and naked form the greed of the financial aristocracy that is responsible for the greatest economic crisis since the Great Depression.
The election result is an expression of not only the political bankruptcy of the Obama administration, but the crisis of the entire two-party system. Both parties are dedicated to serving the interests of a tiny financial aristocracy, which has absolutely nothing to offer the American people but austerity, war and the destruction of democratic rights.
Regardless of who is elected, the same policies are continued. Obama continued the policies of Bush, and Romney, if he had emerged victorious, would have, in all essentials, continued the policies of Obama.
Indeed, in the aftermath of the elections, the dominant theme in the media and political establishment, beginning with Obama himself, is the call for “bipartisanship”—which means a joint offensive of both parties against the working class. The elections, it is declared, are a popular “mandate” for the Democrats and Republicans to come together to “solve the nation’s problems.”
In his own remarks on Tuesday night, Obama declared, “I am looking forward to reaching out and working with leaders of both parties to meet the challenges we can only solve together,” beginning with the need to “reduce the deficit.” Obama has declared that his “first order of business” will be to reach an agreement to implement trillions of dollars in cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and other social programs in response to the “fiscal cliff” at the end of the year. On Wednesday, Republican leaders responded by declaring that they too were committed to reaching an agreement.
According to the official interpretation of American politics, an interpretation shared by the “left” as well as the right, the population is divided along every matter of identity—race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation. Obama won, according to this analysis, because he was able to get the “woman vote” or the “Hispanic vote.” Class can never be mentioned. Yet this is the most fundamental question.
The most important implication of Tuesday’s election is the increasing alienation of the working class from the entire political set-up. And for good reason. There are immense social tensions building up in the United States, rooted in social inequality that prevails at levels not seen since the 1920s. Yet these tensions can find no outlet within the electoral process.
When working class struggles erupt in the United States in the coming months, they will come into increasingly direct conflict with the entire political system—including the network of liberal and pseudo-left organizations whose principal function is to uphold the political domination of the Democratic Party. Opposition will and must take another form: the emergence of an independent political movement of the working class, based on a socialist program.
Joseph Kishore
on November 8th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Without being specific, I bet our Hays Office has been real busy.
on November 8th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Republicans do seem to hate America, CM. That is why they cheer on Benghazi, the recession, the fiscal cliff, and any bad thing that happens to our country. They are overjoyed with America’s bad news.
on November 8th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Living in AZ enables me to relate to the hate and the fears on the political right. I myself welcome the diversity. President Obama is a loving family man, a hard working President and a patriotic American. What more can we ask for? The radical religous right and the Republican Tea Baggers are wrong, the best days for America are still to come.
on November 8th, 2012 at 9:50 am
A note to the individuals who want to say “whites” are so great in how they built our nation. Fact check folks. Out notions of liberty and government by and for the people was not a white notion. It was adapted from the Iraqouis.
Last time I checked, the original people in North America were not all white.
And before you come down on me. I am white, female, over 50 and have lived in a republican state my entire life. I just happen to have a mind of my own and no need or desire to hate.
on November 8th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Who does one define a Half-breed.
Congrads to the President. 50% voted for him. Not a landslide. The takers want stuff from the workers. This was what won. Overwhelmed the system. It now comes down to demographics. And the attacks and disrespect from the internals in both parties. How many of the religious would never vote for a Mormon?
on November 8th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Maybe if people got rid of their TVs and thought for themselves it would lead to a stronger voter turn out. The problems are right there in the community as one gentleman on this thread observed.
I haven’t had a television for 25 years and I doubt anyone could claim I am uninformed or uneducated. But I do think for myself, which seems to be a rare commodity in mainstream America.
on November 8th, 2012 at 10:06 am
When did the Democrat Party become Democratic??? Is it soon to be the Progressive Party? The real socialist party.
Rename them both: Vagina Party and the Prick Party.
Pres. Wilson has just arrived. Let’s have a party. Turn out the lights.
on November 8th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Aadila, I did have a TV for a while, through which I got Megaherz Network. That turned me on to Euronews, Al Jazeera, NHK, France 24, Deutsche Welle, and that fantstic, if harrowing, series, La Piovra. If you can access Megaherz, it’s worthwhile maintaining a tube.
on November 8th, 2012 at 10:14 am
What’s with this last post by Douglas? The Hays Office must be gathered round the donut box.
on November 8th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Well, it may not be an ideal outcome, but at least the dem victory pushes the brownshirt wannabes back for a bit and creates some openings for a redder (or maybe a greener) America. It’s a relief that the worst nightmare didn’t happen, though there’s certainly enough trouble yet to come. I agree that there’s a possibility of violent backlash, but — that possibility is always around.
As for whites becoming a minority – that will be the best thing to happen to this country since FDR. From a left perspective though – well, one can only wish that the so-called ‘red’ states were truly red. Socialism is another great thing that needs to happen, but – one step at a time…
“Workers of the world, arise. You have nothing to lose but your chains.” — Karl Marx
on November 8th, 2012 at 10:38 am
I’m curious…the article says…The President won by close to a landslide…yet if we look at the numbers..out of close to 117,661,663 that cast votes, the difference between winning and losing is only 2,724,489. That comes out to about .95% I think if my math is correct….How is that a “close to landslide” ?
on November 8th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Rey I get Al Jazeera from radio, but after BBC (i.e. British Government) bought it my trust in it being truly the voice of the Middle East dwindled. But at least it’s better than FOX News.
And Douglas, you are ignorant beyond belief, it has always been the “Democratic” party. Your stupidity is a good argument against anything you have to say, so keep at it laddie.
Socialism gave us the weekend. Socialism gave us public schools. Socialism is your local fire department. What you think of as “socialism” is probably just as misinformed as anything else you have to say.
on November 8th, 2012 at 10:46 am
CW: Electoral College. If that was good enough to give Bush a “mandate”, it’s more than good enough for Obama.
on November 8th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Left wing bomb throwers? Bill Ayers.
I’m curious how many dead people voted.
How many non citizens voted?
How many computer glitches voted the wrong way?
Maybe Harry Reid heard something from somebody.
How many ballots got held up in a sorting room in Clackamas county? Or elsewhere.
I would have liked to seen a recount. Christine Gregoire would have liked it that way too. Three times a lady.
And three recounts till she got the vote she wanted then shut down the voting when her opponent wanted a fourth, she said Oooops. We’re out of time.
on November 8th, 2012 at 11:01 am
If hateful whites want to go back to europe ( where their ancestors came from ) who cares? The United States will be better for it. Go on back and take your hatred with you. No one will miss you. President Obama won the election because the people wanted him for president. How hard is that to understand?
on November 8th, 2012 at 11:04 am
“Douglas said,
on November 8th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Who does one define a Half-breed.
Congrads to the President. 50% voted for him. Not a landslide. The takers want stuff from the workers. This was what won. Overwhelmed the system. It now comes down to demographics. And the attacks and disrespect from the internals in both parties. How many of the religious would never vote for a Mormon.”
Uhm, Mr. B.O. Papa Bear O’Reilley, is that you? Giving lectures to that truly hard-working 47%’ers and the minority demographics from your rich, white, Christian, male throne of privilege about the government picking winners and losers (which is its main function in whatever decision or matters it involves itself with by default)? And not realizing the irony of not having had a hard labor day of individual working your entire life, or wanting for anything for already having everything? I watch the funeral and benediction of the G.O.P in its present and ugliest incarnation with boundless glee.
P.S.-I, as a lifelong and devoted non-denominational Christian, would have gladly voted for a Mormon (Jon Hintsman, a Romney cousin) had he won the candidacy nomination and put up a good enough campaign in comparison to Obama’s. Too bad the Republicans kicked all the moderates and liberals within the party to the curb to never return and went full speed to ideological idiocy in the heart of Idiot America…And the problem wasn’t Mittens, or the fact he was a Mormon or wasn’t conservative enough (same was said after McCain & Palin lost, in some alter-reality of logic); he was a terrible candidate, and his party has gone bat**** crazy. Hopefully four years will be long enough for some good soul searching on their part.
on November 8th, 2012 at 11:07 am
NAFTA: DARVO.
on November 8th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Now that the President has been re-elected will right wingnuts begin to “self-deport”?
on November 8th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Pass me another glass of those sweet, sweet extremist tears!
Mmmm, yummy! Tears of unfathomable sadness and impotent rage!
YUMMY!
on November 8th, 2012 at 11:20 am
These groups are scary–and thank God for Southern Poverty Law Center. Racism, obviously is alive and well. But in perspective–the President won by almost a landslide. Two steps forward…lone step backward. Remember the Civil Rights struggle. Martin was right–we shall overcome…maybe even in our day. Roger Lovettehttp://rogerlovette.blogspot.com/2012/11/post-election-musings.html
on November 8th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Um, cw, your math is *not* correct. Based on the same total you cited, Obama had 51.2% of the popular vote and Romney had 48.8%, a margin of 2.3% in Obama’s favor, not 0.95%. Granted, no one would consider that a landslide.
However, in the Electoral College, Obama’s margin currently is 60% vs. 40% for Romney, without counting Florida’s 29 electoral votes. If Obama gets those, he wins by 62% to 38%, which would be about a 24% margin and is getting close to 2-to-1 territory. Certainly, it’s far better than Dubya’s 2000 win by a 0.93% Electoral College margin (and a loss in the popular vote).and also his 2004 electoral margin of just 6.5%.
on November 8th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Why do we stand by and allow the redistribution of our wealth? Year after year the hard- earned wealth of New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, etc are.ripped from the hands of those who earned it and redistributed to- can you guess?-
Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky etc. Maybe the key to true economic recovery and deficit reduction is to reinstate the Confederacy.
And please don’t be confused that our nation is evenly divided and polarized. The reality is that the President is fairly popular in the east,west, and midwest, but apprarently the anti-Christ in the south, which is reflected in the close national vote polls.
on November 8th, 2012 at 11:24 am
“Tess Hoffman said,
on November 7th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
I am white and had a celebratory lunch with a black friend today. One of the bazillion topics we talked about was the Fox News team comments and this a.m.’s conversation on the Joe Scarborough show about the changing demographics of the country. My friend asked me if I am worried about becoming a racial minority. The best way I could answer her was to speak what I have been thinking. If white folks begin to find ourselves more and more a minority in a nation of increasing color variety, I guess we’d better hope that the African-American, Latino, Asian, Middle-Eastern folks around us are willing to give us the benefit of the doubt and treat us more kindly than folks of our color have treated them. It’s going to take some faith, and a lot of hope. But isn’t it worth it? I’m excited about my future community.”
~Oh they will Mr. Tess, they will (meaning giving non-whites giving white the benefit of the doubt). That’s the frustrating but necessary and remarkable hard work of self-governance that Obama referred to recently is all about. And its the foundation of progressive and liberal coalition in America that has sought equality, social justice, and public service across racial, economic, religious and gender/orientation demographics since the very start. Its my prayer and sincerest belief that the ugliest history of this, the world’s greatest nation in oppression and institutionalized marginalization is over but far from being a passing memory still, but only a United and not actually Divided State s of America can correct that. If only there was a way to get all the homophobic, racist, misogynist, xenophobic or classist whites (who are overwhelmingly rich, male and Christian apparently) to see the light as well…
on November 8th, 2012 at 11:30 am
I’ve read several comments here and elsewhere (this was cross-posted at Huffington Post and in other venues) about my use of the phrase “something of a landslide victory,” and, as a result, I’ve rephrased my lede. When I wrote that, I was thinking of the overall victory — both Obama’s (in the electoral college, where the margin was pretty wide) and those of several senators who really did win by unexpectedly large margins — but I accept the criticism that I seemed to be describing the Obama 2-point popular vote win as a “landslide.”
Thanks, with appropriate humility, for the input.
Mark Potok
on November 8th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Sad to know that the good ol’ boy idiotology is pass down to the idiots of ol’ miss. Did u loss something again? Haha , tell daddy give u a pamper.
on November 8th, 2012 at 11:38 am
No one has the right to anything but life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Despite ones belief that these are the ideals of man, the actually are embedded in the promises of God. I find it sad that that the images that I see and the words that I hear are no different than the hatred and violent of our past.
- All men were said to be created equal, yet we classified others as animals to eliminate their existence.
- America was founded, yet our first acts were to kill its current occupants.
- We required servants to do our labor, so we imported slaves, yet we publicly killed, hung, or shot them at will to assert our superiority.
- We take pride is being at the top percentile academically, yet we forget that we made it a crime, punishable by hanging for others to learn to read, let alone get an education.
- We take pride in our freedom of speech, yet we attempt to silence anyone, if not kill, those who say things differently.
- We cry out with our historical dominance when we made it illegal for women and others to vote.
If the words that I have read are those of Christians, then I would argue that we have become the Pharaoh’s of Egypt with an over zealousness in our skewed perception of success and dominance.
Today I weep for my country – not because of who happens to be the president, but rather for our behavior as its citizens.
For those who understand, I leave with these words, “ the sins of a father”
on November 8th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
I am wondering if the James that is spouting racism on her is James Edwards of the racist radio show Political Cellspool? hmmmm
on November 8th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Renee Wrote; I am a European and I do not want these sociopathic ignorant dangerous people in Europe! Unfortunately we already have enough of our own. It is ironic that these racists are living in the South which was built by labor of slavery, they are unaware of their own history. Without conscience, without empathy for their fellow human beings, in my book, they are the very personification of evil on Earth.
I am responding to what Renee wrote, yes I agree with you. And I don’t believe they realize that there are many more people out there who completely disagree with them. My friends from Europe never treated me badly. And this hate is based on Ignorance. Complete and utter Ignorance.
As if people of color have not lent and continue to develop important advances in many of areas of science and more.
These people are probably from blood lines that the Europeans originally kicked out!
But for them to say and act like complete and uncivilized animals is reason to say these are not Americans. This sort of hate and disruptive behavior toward their fellow men and women is all the more reason to see them denied citizenship. This goes beyond mere freedom of speech. It’s warmongering.
on November 8th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
I’m really happy Obama won he’s gonna make us all proud Americans bush left us in the dog house & this great president is gonna continue to dig us out my fellow Americans there is no room for racism in our great nation. WERE ON OUR WAY TO 4 MORE PRODUCTIVE YEARS I LOVE YOU ALL & MAY GOD BLESS THE HATERS!!!
on November 8th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
“I was leaning towards Romney on coal/keystone pipeline, and expanding free trade agreements”
Lets see.. Coal, because global warming isn’t real, so it doesn’t matter what sort of power you use. Keystone, because we are all supposed to be (and apparently some are) too stupid to realize that all “major” oil companies, like the ones building the pipeline, have legal binding requirements with OPEC, which prevent them producing “domestic oil”, instead of shipping it to the foreign markets, then buying it back, as usual. And, finally, free trade – because we just really need even more jobs sent over seas….
Have I got that right?
on November 8th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
And furthermore, I would like to add that I am very happy about the electoral vote. If we left it up to the complete ignorance of hatemongers we would have a country thrown back into the dark ages of divide and segregation, but that is not the way intelligent Americans want it and thank God the votes spoke for the American Population that counts.
on November 8th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
This explains so much as to the hate actions and crimes that I witness here in smaller towns of Wisconsin. But there was obvious more people in the other part of the state that feel quite differently than the racist who fetter their streets.
on November 8th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
I grew up in the south, where we had dual water fountains on Main Street. You young folks will just have to guess what the extra fountains were for. Still, in my little corner of Tennessee, there were plenty of decent people who were not racists and figured that black people and Hispanics were god’s children just like everybody. I live in the north now, thankfully, but I miss Tennessee. I miss how my mom and dad went out of their way to teach us to be tolerant and open-minded. I miss the year that schools desegregated peacefully and the black kids came to my school. Suddenly, I had a whole bunch of new friends. I guess my point in telling you this is that I don’t believe that the entire south is solidly 100% bigoted. Plus, I see plenty of racism in New York where I live now. Give the south some time. Tom Wolfe came to speak to us at UT- Knoxville many years ago. He told us that the south is slow to accept new ideas, but once they do, those ideas become fully ingrained. I believe that. 41% of Red State Texans voted for Obama. 39% of Tennessee voters voted for Obama. Give the South a little more time. They’ll come around. And when they do, expect it to last.
on November 8th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
What happened at “Ole Mis” is tragic and unconscionableI. However, I wonder how the author defines the radical right. I think it is a huge, dismissive and falsely divisive mistake to equate a very small but vocal minority of white supremacists to conservatives Christians, even less so to the majority of Republicans (almost half this country). There is overlap, for sure, but the latter two are both far, far larger groups. To use quotes (ignorant, hate filled, violent) from hate sites to represent the majority of Republicans and conservative Christians is misleading and inflammatory. Of course these hate groups have grown-as a result of the explosion of social media, so has every other kind of group.
You know my politics (liberal feminist) and life style (illegally married Lesbian) but I have far too many Christian (most not the least homophobic, the majority legally pro-choice if personally anti-choice) and Republican (many of them Jewish) friends and yes, even family, to not be offended by this article. Yes there are haters out there but lets not “white wash” all Christians and Republicans.
on November 8th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
“Left wing bomb throwers? Bill Ayers.”
Wow, back in the 70′s, and he “threw” bombs at property.
“I’m curious how many dead people voted.”
Find some evidence.
“How many non citizens voted?”
Find some evidence.
“How many computer glitches voted the wrong way?”
See above.
Realize that you are talking about electoral fraud, a serious federal crime. If someone organized just 50 non-citizens to vote(something which would be insignificant in our system), they would be facing up to $25,000 and possibly more than 50 years in prison. Now you’re talking about risking that on a scale massive enough to tip the entire election in our peculiar electoral system. It’s laughable.
on November 8th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
i worked 30yrs had to retire because of a bad back i get a pension medicare am i part of the 47percent that romney talked about because i voted for obama romney seemed ok until he started flipping on things he would say i hope this nation can come together god bless america
on November 8th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
“If you can immigrate to Europe you start making plans.”
I know a lot of you have pointed out how multicultural we are in Europe, I just want to say that none of your white supremacists are welcome in any way in Europe or The UK.
Congratulations to your nation in electing a fine man in Mr Obama. Stay Free!
on November 8th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
All this discord saddens me. Unhappy wing-nuts want to leave and everyone just laughs at them for wanting to escape multi-cultural society by moving to Europe, of all places.
Show a little compassion.
Don’t be depressed, boys. There’s still Paraguay.
on November 8th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
I have noticed a james posting racist comments and was wondering If this is the same James from the Political Cesspool Radio Show in Memphis. People don;t be food that Radio Show is 110 % racist!
on November 8th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
For a historical perspective: The Shadow of Hate: The History of Intolerance in America http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h3Ep_eXjqQ
on November 8th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Words to live by…
“Can’t we all just get along?”
– Rodney King,
R.I.P., 2012
on November 8th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Jared Loughner has just been sentenced to life in prison.
on November 8th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
I’m not white. I’m sort of pinko-grey.
on November 8th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
I think we all need to take a step back. Take a deep breath. LOOK at what really happened less than a week ago.
The decisivly bigoted, homophobic, sexist and misogynistic candidates for the Senate got creamed.
Also, with all of their hate-mongering and fear-baiting, the Romney/ Ryan ticket still failed.
I worked as hard as I could over the last year for a Democratic sweep. What I SAW FIRST HAND on the campaign trail is this:
-there are plenty of people of all colors, cultures and beliefs that will stand up to hate.
-there are plenty of Americans that will work tirelessly for a better government, that includes ALL people.
-there are plenty of people who are willing to defeat the ignorance, fear and greed of a few who would like to rule American as a theology based plutocracy.
WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. This is our country. WE HAVE STARTED TO TAKE IT BACK.
on November 8th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
If they make it as far as Europe I hope they enjoy the socialist economies, universal health care as well as wage guarantees and minimums. Some places have four day work weeks and five week vacations.
I’m sure gonna miss them, they were such a delight to have around but … bye.
on November 8th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
In the interest of comforting the troubled and troubling the comfortable, I for one welcome Jeb, and the other newbies. When I mention American values of personal responsibility and different incomes based on different marketable skills, all the clones, products of our failed educational system, start chirping all the predictable responses. This forum could use a few more writers that think for themselves and use their real name.
on November 8th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
A word to the wise, Jeb. Sam Molloy’s a sweetie, really he is, but don’t take any wooden Kenyan farthings from him. Just saying.
on November 8th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Sam,
Of course you welcome Jeb. Birds of a feather and all that.
Now, whether he is as tolerant of your orientation as you are of his racism is another matter entirely.
on November 8th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
People have often told me what to think, but not successfully.
on November 8th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
The same Creator made us all, & not one of us is heavenly favored above another. We all have our share of a_holes & good folks & lazy asses, been that way throughout history all over the world. For those folks threatening to go back to Europe, GO NOW & I’ll help you pack!!! Sure a lot of good people came here looking for a better life. But the kind you were getting away from followed you! Let em go back home, we don’t need their kind here! AMERICA IS INDIAN COUNTRY Play nice in the sandbox with everyone or go home!
on November 8th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
there were numerous posts b4 the election from left groups saying the same shit.threatening republicans whitey and rich people…if you think not..you are part of the problem and a hypocrite
on November 8th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Lots of emotion and lots of posing, but the real America has little to fear- things are changing for the better. Caucasians could never expect to hold a majority forever in north America. Now, we’ll have to put this equality under the Constitution idea where our mouths are. Those who foster racial hatred are doomed. The real patriots in America were never about racial prejudice because you can’t be American if you advocate it. Read the founding documents and it’s pretty clear. it’s just hard for some people to live up to. . The real problem for whites are those who make the rest of the world, and races, angry at us. We’re not superior, we’re not the chosen people, we’re human, that’s the best we can get. It’s hard to swallow for some, but they make the pill bitter and that makes them ugly. No matter how you try, you can’t make people smarter.
on November 8th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
It is so sad to see these ignorant knuckle dragging humans, yet again, brining shame and disgrace to the Naiton. They haven’t a clue on what democracy means let alone how to act within one. Intimidation is ALL they have and the only response they can come up with. They just like all those before them will fade into the dust bin of history. The ONLY question to be answered is simply how much disgrace and shame will they create for future generations of American’s???? How much history will future Conservative’s be forced to “Rewrite”??
on November 8th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
I have been praying for the South to secede for years. Can it be that my prayers are finally being answered? Hallelujah! Now all the welfare states (the South, except Texas) will no longer be a drag on the rest of us taxpayers. They rant and rave about the governent and yet they take all the government’s money – if you do some real research you will see how every single blue state has paid more to the federal gov’t. than they receive and every single red state (except Texas) has received more governent assistance than they pay. If they do secede, I guess they will have to beg Texas to give them money. And don’t tell me that there are no whites on welfare in the South…
on November 8th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Some time back a comment was made regarding ham radio (aka Amateur Radio) on this thread.
There are liberal hams just as there are liberals in general, and the hobby has saved many lives – we’re also some of the first called in case of an emergency. Often it’s our equipment and training that provides the only reliable communication in or out. So please, no nasty comments regarding something that is actually neutral. (If you want to say something bad about the Lids who try to preach on the air, or shove conservative politics on everyone, I 100% agree.)
Sam Malloy – I refuse to use my real name on the internet because a damned “Good Christian” internet stalked me for several months (because I said that you could be Christian and accept that evolution is fact). Those same damned “Good Christians” torched my electronics workshop (I lost some of my radios as well as all my test equipment, parts, books, and inventions I’d been working on for years). They’ve also poisoned some of our kitties, threatened my family, and done other things. It’s smarter to keep your identity concealed, as long as there are people like “Jeb” and the other trolls around.
on November 8th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
bearcat7, explain how whites becoming a minority will become the best thing..if you can make a reasonable argument w/o sounding like a racist, you might be taken seriously
on November 8th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Sam, you think Jeb is his real name? I was surmising that he was using a nom de plume and that he has now emulated his namesake’s behavior at the Battle of Gettysburg and simply disappeared.
As for myself, I write every day under my full, real name and take the heat when someone doesn’t like it, but alas a non-compete clause in my employment contract bars me from publishing under my own name here.
on November 8th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
James form NH..The Repubs took the House..the Dems got the Senate..get it right
on November 8th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Why would the right wingers want to emigrate to socialist Europe, which stands for everything that they abnore?
on November 8th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Although it’s shrugged off, why didn’t the SPLC make mention of the death threats Romney was getting? Of course the people posting said threats could barely form a coherent sentence so the likelihood of them carrying out an assasination attempt is laughable and even though they voted for Obama, I’m sure he wouldn’t want to be in the same room w/ such ogres.
and another thing, if hyperinflation were to occur, do any of you have any plans for this or are you all so blinded by your faith in Obama, do you think such a thing is impossible? never say it can’t happen here..just a thought
on November 8th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
…and yes Jorge is my real name
on November 8th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
The UNITED STATES. Love it or leave it.
on November 8th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Go live in Europe you biggots, see if they’ll accept your BS over there! The Christian Right is behind the curve as far as the rest of the world goes, you’re a dinosaur and will go the same way they did.
Or you could “catch up” with the rest of the civilized world, get with the times GOP or please, quietly leave the room and shoot yourself in some dark alley. The US is the only industrialized nation that has this kind of religious fanaticism, the laughing stock of the world I’d say
on November 8th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
I really feel sorry for those citizens that have so much hate for others. I think it comes from their feeling inadequate in themselfs and they have to transfer that feeling to someone else to boost their selfesteem. We must not hate them but pray that will come to the full knowledge of God and themselfs and seek help to overcome their misguided feelings.
on November 8th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
There is no way conservatives are going to convince stupid people to vote against their government goodies. The best Republican strategy is to stand back and let Obama destroy the country. When all Obama supporters are sufficiently hungry, then and only then can many of them be educated.
on November 8th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
@Elisa Mason said,
ON NOVEMBER 7TH, 2012 AT 11:41 AM
Mitt Romney’s kid says he’d like to punch President Obama, and the LEFT is the problem? James, I’d like to introduce you to a new concept: REALITY. What should have happened to TAGG Romney was a trip with the guys in the big black sedans. Fortunately for him, President Obama passed it off as the stupidity it was.
How would you feel if you saw someone on the news, and the people who represent him, badmouthing and slandering your Dad? What would that make you want to do?
Thats what I thought.
on November 8th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
And this is exactly how Hitler was able to get elected.
on November 8th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
“Some places have four day work weeks and five week vacations.”
But, but, but… Only *rich* people and congressmen should have those! lol
on November 8th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
I wonder how many Spanish people that voted,
were suppose to vote.
on November 8th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
“When I mention American values of personal responsibility and different incomes based on different marketable skills,”
You mention an America that has never existed.
on November 8th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
The rantings and ravings of the Radical Right are going to get a LOT worse between now and the end of the year. Remember that the Mayan Calendar ends on the Winter Solstice, December 21 — and there were plenty of end-of-the-world screeds posted about THAT for months. With President Obama’s re-election, the insanity will only intensify.
on November 8th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
In the last 4 years, there was more domestic drilling, more corporate income, and more jobs.
What are they afraid of?
Is that all they know, fear?
on November 9th, 2012 at 12:16 am
Well……
If it’s the economy, it’s getting better, domestic drilling is up, and those responsible for outsourcing american labor are being outed.
If it’s religion, someone should read the new testament, and maybe slowly for them, so they can see WWJD.
That’s all.
on November 9th, 2012 at 3:45 am
So, according to Bush and the right, in 2004, a 2.4% (3 million vote) popular vote and 286 Electoral College victory IS a mandate. So much so that Bush announced, “I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it.”
Now in 2012, a 2.5% popular vote (3 million vote) and a 332 Electoral College victory ISN’T a mandate.
Go figure?
on November 9th, 2012 at 6:14 am
A whole lot of things to respond to here – probably too much for one little peach to handle, but anyway i will just hit the high points:
jeb, you adorable piece of moonshine soaked fruit, if you think that redneck is an offensive derogatory term explain why Jeff “You Might Be a Redneck If” Foxworthy is the most popular comedian in the United States especially in the South. Or try actually going to a NASCAR race to see fake rednecks in action (the fact is that the people who actually go to NASCAR races tend to be high income educated professionals or skilled blue collar workers who actually can actually afford the admission price who as often as not come from the North – they just like to party like rednecks – okay, rednecks who actually have money and don’t have to worry about their job being shipped overseas by a vulture capitalist) or a county fair demolition derby in the South to see the real thing in action. More likely than not you will see multiple people wearing t-shirts proclaiming pride in being a redneck.
No one considers “redneck” a slur – in fact, if anything offends people it is seeing rich Yankee imposters pretending to be rednecks.
on November 9th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Everette, where exactly in the Bible do you see that God is down with “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” (by which Thomas Jefferson actually meant “owning property” which for him meant “slaves”)?
In fact, under the teachings of Jesus to really follow Him you have to be willing to give up your life, liberty, and property/pursuit of personal happiness to follow His will. Under a truly Biblical sense of property there is in fact no individual ownership of property – instead, God just allows you to be a steward of His property because the entire world belongs to God and is merely provided for the use of all living creatures.
“Life, liberty and the pursuit if happiness” comes from man and not from God.
on November 9th, 2012 at 6:52 am
Sam, i suspect that most of the people who respond to your bleatings about why greed is good are likely much better educated than you are. Would also suspect that we may well make more money than you do.
People who are highly educated and/or highly skilled are going to make more money than others who aren’t – that is not unfair. Its not unfair that i will my fancy (and expensive) education in college and the professional level make more than someone who dropped out of high school and works at McDonalds. It is unfair if i am as a relatively highly compensated professional is paying a lower or even the same percentage of my income in taxes than the person flipping burgers. And its extremely unfair if someone who is making millions is paying a lower percentage of their income in taxes than someone making $50,000 a year.
Jesus said “to whom much is given, much is expected” – even if you aren’t a Christian its still a good model for society to expect people who make more money to pay more.
We don’t object to people with more skills making more money – we object to giving what is essentially a free ride to the rich and wealhty and allowing a permanent aristocracy. Our objection is to having the wealthy be more wealthy than at any point in human history while having the poor and the middle class get constantly poorer. Our objection is to turning society wholesale over to Mammon where the rich and the powerful control everything.
We object to the rich and the corporate saying “there is no such thing as a free lunch” to everyone else and expecting sacrifise from everyone else as they line up at the through to gouge themselves on handouts. We object not to the government rewarding success but to the government rewarding failure – where the government gives a reward to companies who destroy jobs and privatizes gains and socializes risk. The fact is that the Republicans are the biggest Socialists out there – its just that they socialize risk rather than gains.
We object to the fact that the rich want to be able to give billions of dollars to their own children who will never have to work at all in their life so their children can live like kings and queens lording over the working serfs and never have to pay a cent EVER in taxes.
Open your eyes Sam that you may see what is really going on here – liberals are not seeking to punish success and rewarding sloth – it is actually the Republicans who want to reward failure and sloth (but only in the rich) – they are expecting the rich to pay their societal toll like everyone else. The liberals are not looking for a free lunch – they are looking to stop them.
on November 9th, 2012 at 7:05 am
@Mark Potok,
While it is gracious not to gloat (well, let’s go ahead and gloat), I think you were spot on in your lede regarding the Obama landslide.
Dick Morris on the eve of the election beamed ear to ear telling Greta Van Sustren how Romney was going to win a “landslide” with 325 electoral votes. Obama wins by 332 electoral votes and all of a sudden he just squeaked by. Obama absolutely won by a landslide. Even in the popular vote Obama won by a much wider margin than any recent Republican win.
The popular vote is something of a misnomer in 2012, because so many people did not vote. Every state is showing smaller turnout than 2008. According to Census figures, there are about 208 million eligible voters. Voter turnout this year was of some 118 million, meaning about 90 million people did not vote.
A number of studies have shown that non-voters are most often under 30 and/or minority voters, compared with frequent or infrequent voters, which is exactly the demographic support base for Obama. A USA-Suffolk University poll showed non-voters in 2012 favored Obama nearly two to one.
There are many reasons why non-voters opt out, but it is clear that if they were as angry, disillusioned, and miserable with Obama’s policies as the Republicans would have us believe, it is likely that with the carpet bombing of negative campaign ads that the 90 million non voters would go to the polls.
Since polls show Romney supporters were predominately motivated by desire to ouster Obama, rather than any special love for Romney, it is clear that the message the Romney campaign was broadcasting failed to resonate with the voters. The fact is, as substantiated by both vote and post-vote polls, the American public is not all that unhappy with Obama or the Democrats. Certainly not to the degree exaggerated by the Republicans.
So, I think it’s safe to say the Romney campaign managed to get most of the anti-Obama vote, but those voters are clearly in the demographic minority by a landslide. And that shows that building a campaign against an incumbent only works if the newcomer has something credible to offer America.
When will the Republicans learn that negative campaigning simply doesn’t work?
on November 9th, 2012 at 7:14 am
This is what you get from a group who’s list of accomplisments drops off steeply after being born white.
on November 9th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Sam, on the name thing I’ve got plenty of books published and many, many more articles under my byline already, not to mention my charity work. I don’t need or want publicity and I’m not here to sell anything.
I’m here to call attention to social issues that need to be resolved, among them your edification. But if you feel good about seeing your own good name in print, bully for you! No one shall take that from you.
As for me, I think we should pay more credence to the content of what people are saying than “who they are”, though I bet a lot of the masked radicals here and yon are surprisingly well known.
Would you think more of their comments if you found out they were household names, or would you think less of them if you found out they were not? If so the issue is really with your identity, not theirs.
on November 9th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Erika regarding liberals not wanting to punish others for their success, this is very true.
But I do feel after the outright viciousness and attempts to steal the election through voter suppressions and an unending stream of disinformation, I believe it is necessary to radicalize!
We should give some serious thought to punishing the Republicans. No, not punish. Perhaps _rehabilitate_ is a better word. I propose enforced viewing of 200 hours of Alan Colmes and a 1000 word essay on why Rachel Maddow is a great American.
Or their taxes go up. That simple.
on November 9th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Actually Judd, what Romney’s son objected to was people telling the truth about Mitt Romney – even crazy Rick Perry was able to recognize him as being a “vulture capitalist” who got rich off of other people’s misery. If Mitt Romney saw you – and the vast majority of people who voted for him – near his house, he would tell his servants “release the hounds” and be scrambling his private security to hold you until the police arrived.
on November 9th, 2012 at 9:03 am
On election night, i was reading a book entitled “Great American Billboards” which i picked up sometime for cheap showing the history of outdoor advertising – in this book, one of the billboards they had was from the 1928 President Campaign which sounds very eerily similar to what we heard in the last campaign. It contained a quote from Thomas Alva Edison:
“The United States government is the biggest business in the world. The proper man to run it is Herbert Hoover”
Sound familiar? Isn’t it interesting to learn when and where the idea that the American government is like a business and should be run like a business originated? How did that work out for Herbert Hoover?
on November 9th, 2012 at 9:56 am
I realize that this may be a bit late in the thread, but I think the term “landslide” is another instance of the GOP moving the rhetorical goal posts.
As others have noted, the difference in the popular vote is in the same ballpark as Bush’s 2004 “mandate” and GOP pundits predicted a 325 electoral college “landslide” for Rmoney. Suddenly, those terms don’t apply because Obama won. As they say, IOKIYAR.
Personally, I think it was a landslide because of the billion or so dollars spent by Karl Rove, et. al. to defeat an incumbent president with bad economic numbers. And they still lost. Even after four years of non-stop racism and out-right lies from the right wing noise machine, they still lost. Now that is a landslide. Ah, sweet schadenfruede…
Since I am on a rant, I would add my two Kenyan Farthings regarding the goobers who think they can run off to a mythical European white homeland. That place exists only in the imaginations of the window lickers who populate StormFront. No European nation is going to allow you residence simply because you have a white skin and are dissatisfied by the results of the election. Although, I admit, it would be amusing to see the 21st Century version of the Beverly Hillbillies arrive in Germany and request asylum because Ein schwarzer Mann ist Präsident der Vereinigten Staaten.
on November 9th, 2012 at 10:00 am
lMackintosh, I know very little about the recent elections in Spain or what percentage of turnout there was, let alone whether Spain has mandatory voting laws. I believe, however, that the Galician home-rule movement suffered a setback.
on November 9th, 2012 at 10:03 am
For those of you dreaming of a new Confederacy – both ignorant white people dreaming of the South rising again to wallow in permanent backwardness and northerners looking to free yourselves of parasites – i believe that there are some problems that you are missing.
1) You can count Virginia out – no way that the Commonwealth leaves the source of its low unemployment and relative plenty. Okay, maybe the western part of the state who doesn’t like either Washington nor Richmond any would leave but good riddance – all they do is keep electing right wing wackos to the General Assembly and keeping Virginia’s blue core along I-95 and from Richmond to the ocean from being able to fix its transportation issues. They are almost all white anyway down there so turning southwest Virginia (and maybe adjoining parts of Kentucky, Tennessee, and West Virginia) into a White Supremacist homeland will likely not cause too much disruption.
2) North Carolina won’t go either – quite simply, Bank of America won’t let them. And neither will Resarch Triangle or the Triad.
3) South Carolina probably won’t be ready to fire on Fort Sumter again either – quite simply, the Upstate region is getting too much money from being in the US along I-85 and not being Charlotte or Atlanta. Okay, maybe downstate would go – that would be a tragedy since Charleston is very pretty but most likely not. Going to a new White Supremacist Confederacy will turn off the flow of tourist dollars in a hurry. Once its clear that Upstate and Charleston won’t be going anywhere i’m guessing that all of South Carolina isn’t going anywhere.
3) You think that Atlanta is going to let Georgia go? And even if parts of Georgia wants to leave to join the new Confederacy, it will likely be that large section South of a line from Columbus through Macon to Augusta which is in my opinion is pretty close to being uninhabitable especially in summer. anyway
4) For Alabama, SEC football is more powerful than racism. Just Alabamans what will happen to the Tide and the Tigers if the Neoconfderates get their dream of an all White haven and the neo-Confederates will be run out of Alabama on a rail. Maybe even tarred and feathered first.
5) Florida won’t go either – and if it does go, it won’t be a neo-Confederate haven. It will be a Hispanic/Caribbean country.
6) Texas isn’t going to go to a New-Confederacy either – Texas barely went to the first Confederacy if you actually look at the history. Texas is much too Hispanic to go to become Neo-Confederate and the rich guys in Dallas and Houston aren’t going to want to take responsibility for the border patrol.
7) Louisiana probably won’t either – quite simply, the tourist trade in New Orleans is too valuable and leaving the U.S, would imperil that (plus, the state isn’t going to want to take responsibility if Katrina’s big sister – or even for one of Katrina’s litter sisters – ever comes around) – okay, maybe the Cajun Part goes and becomes an independent state, but they’d be French and Cajun and not Confederate.
8) Tennessee probably isn’t going anywhere either – yes, you’d think it might but Nashville has quite a lot of wealth and cultural ties to the rest of the U.S. through the country music industry and a big trade. Memphis is also not going anywhere either. Quite simply, like New Orleans, Memphis and Nashville are too much fun for the rest of the U.S. to give up without a fight. And Memphis and Nashville make too much money from the American tourist trade to give it up without a fight. Maybe eastern Tennessee would go, but they didn’t support the original Confederacy so why would they support a new one? Plus, Oak Ridge and UT are likely sufficiently strong to keep all of Tennessee in the Union.
9) Arkansas isn’t likely to go either – quite simply, Wal-Mart won’t let them join a Neo-Confederate government because it would be commercial suicide for them.
So let’s see – that leaves for a possible new Confederacy: Mississippi with additional possible room for a White Supremacist homeland in southern Georgia which no one (least of all the people in northerrn Georgia) will miss anyway. Maybe there will be also a white supremacist homeland in the southern Applachians but i seriously doubt taht anyone would notice the difference with that.
Okay, even the rest of the South will say don’t let the door hit you on your way out to see southern Georgia and Mississippi leave :)
on November 9th, 2012 at 10:09 am
with this many posts here, you’d almost think this was another thread about the whiners in the men’s rights movement.
on November 9th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Erika,
Give it time, there may be some overlap.
on November 9th, 2012 at 10:44 am
No one seems to be talking about what happens if Puerto Rico becomes a state.
Hmm…two new Spanish-speaking Senators, and a number of suntanned Representatives.
That sounds very troubling for the GOP’s Great White Hope, or uh, Despair.
on November 9th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Absurdity, I don’t know what the hell your point was supposed to be, but Hitler’s initial ascent to the chancellorship was not the result of an election. It was the result of some blackmail concerning Hindenburg’s son, a conclave of industrialists, junkers, and generals, and manipulations on the part of Schleicher and Papen. Hindenburg conveniently died and the Reichstag conveniently burned, and we know the rest. Schleicher was murdered on the Night of the Long Knives. Papen was slick and unprincipled enough to survive several changes of personnel and a couple of attempts to get rid of him. You know, Papen goes the weasel.
on November 9th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Erika,
I think that was the best post I’ve ever read on this site.
As a reward, I am sending you an entire peach orchard full of lightbulbs at the bases of the trees. And they have smiley faces with googley eyes.
An orchard of radiant bottomed, joyful peaches, if you will.
(How’s that for a confused metaphor?)
on November 9th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
In fact, this issue of Puerto Rican statehood was one of those which turned many Mainland Puerto Rican voters against the Republican Party. The latter’s attitude about “icky brown people”, their blocking statehood questions repeatedly, and their general social cruelty and snobbishness were complete turnoffs to voters who were basically the kind of patrotic, hard-working, churchgoing homebodies that had once been the backbone of the Eisenhower Republican electorate.
on November 9th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
One problem with moving to Europe, most countries there you are not allowed to own a gun. Only lawbreakers own guns.
on November 9th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
“There is no way conservatives are going to convince stupid people to vote against their government goodies.”
What government goodies were offered? What about the corporate welfare, business tax breaks, and farm subsidies which Republicans have consistently supported? Are those not “goodies.”
on November 9th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
When you work in the corporate/ military complex, you would be none to bright to publicly acknowledge you are a liberal. Hence the Name Thing.
I will go on the record to say that I do not like waxy, flavorless tomatoes, though. And, the best home made Mozzarela comes from Wisconsin.
on November 9th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Aron, thank you and quite creative :)
although it would be nice if you were more specific – i posted several this morning and i’d like to think that they were all good *smiles again*
on November 9th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Alright Erika, since you pushed the issue, you get the orchard for your state-by-state rebuttal of CSA v1.1. You get a peach PLANTATION filled with robotic slaves and an endless supply of mint juleps for all of your posts combined.
;-)
on November 9th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
I am a 76 year old black male and I would like to make a simple, short observation on the Ole Miss debacle. The election is over and done. A black man was re-elected to this nation’s highest office, POTUS! this would not have not been possible without Americans of all races and colors, who voted for who they believed, would be the best individual to bring the country back to where the economy needs to be. The majoriity has spoken. The goal is clear. The uninformed have been exposed. Their ignorance, validated.
on November 9th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Damn! It’s Friday again! Fun times when you’re having flies!
Hmmm…quite a field this week…
on November 9th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Elisa Mason said,on November 7th, 2012 at 11:39 am
James, your racism is glaring. Please go home and wash your sheet. I’m sure it is getting dingy from so much use.
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There is no racism here and i have many black friends at work who saw the same threats as i did. when you click on their name on twitter, most people have pictures of themselves on their profiles..
many of the comments that were captured by twitchy.com also showed many ‘tweets’ that said if Romney got elected they were ready to kill him the next day…
And as far as the protestors go, everyone is allowed to protest anything they see fit. there is nothing wrong with it and its freedom of speech guaranteed by the first amendment of the US Constitution. protesting does not mean someone is extremist, racist, or anything else like the SPLC wants people to beleive….
on November 9th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
I wonder why our young free thinker, Sam, has not acknowledged any of the responses to his post from yesterday afternoon. Could it be that he has become a hit and run troll?
on November 9th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
well, well, well now. I had been trying to figure out who all those fema camp sights were being built for. Protest and rant your racist hate, buy all the guns you want, wave all the confederate flags you like. However, I dont think you can shoot or strategize as well as the American military, which happens to be of many ethnicities whom have fought and protected cowardess racist hate leeches like you. Stay tuned for when they come to round up you idiot kooks. Its time they made use of those fema camp sites, who’s first. America has been burdened enough by your hate, stiff self righteous and self entitled views. The clean up parties coming. Bye Bye and good ridens!
on November 9th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
“One problem with moving to Europe, most countries there you are not allowed to own a gun. Only lawbreakers own guns.”
Yes, and as a result there are fewer lawbreakers because it is far more difficult to get guns and the costs of getting caught with one are far higher.
on November 9th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
A few points – race had very little to do with the reason most Romney voters voted for Romney. Another point – the only place I have heard talk about secession by conservatives because of Obama being reelected is in left wing rags, and here. A third point – racism has very little to do with conservative ideology in the US, except in the minds of fevered leftists. One final point – 48% is losing, but it is not all that far from winning. So stop hating your neighbors who voted Romney, stop hating people for being traditionally religious, and stop inventing silly conspiracies (right wingers want to secede from the Union!) that only exist in your fevered imaginations. Or else you will end up sounding alot like those white supremacists you keep complaining about.
on November 10th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Matthew Bailey states there is NO DANGER in GMO’s…????…There most certainly are, if you are a BEE, INSECT or BIRD (they are exceedingly important to HUMAN FOOD PRODUCTION). Do the research Matt. Don’t just give us your lip service and opinion. I am certain you are one of the many, many self proclaimed “superior species” who think humans are separated from BIOLOGY! Go read “Silent Spring”……..back in the day folks like you said DDT was just fine.
on November 10th, 2012 at 7:46 am
The fear is obvious. In their heart and mind, any white person of average intelligence knows the usa systematically and persistently ensured the economic and social and environmental genocide of “minorities”. Since about 1980, when reagan was elected president, the majority in the usa ensured their obstructionist policies applied to all people of color. Now, could it be that being a “minority” and understanding the immediate negative connotation that word has assumed, means knowing the same crap heaped on colored “minorities” may now be heaped on the future white “minority”. Most everyone believes in karma.
on November 10th, 2012 at 8:45 am
After reading the above, I had to stop. It was making my head boil up in anger. I am white with blond hair and such a reflection of the so-called Arian race. Oh, such poppy cock. The winning of a black man, Barack Obama, should be a beakon of joy for all people who believe, or better yet, know, that all men are created equal, IN THE SIGHT OF GOD. I don’t know, but maybe God is rolling into something to think that any creation of his could be predujust against his perfect creation. I can’t believe this, after WW11 that people could be so hateful. This country should vote for the first Jew, Moslem, Woman etc. We are all in the image and likeness of God, not just certain color or religious people. After all these wars, mankind is still backward. Maybe in the next election we should vote for a Dog or Cat. They have more love in them instead of these hateful humans.
on November 10th, 2012 at 10:32 am
In regards to the term redneck; it is a slur. Rednecks address each other with that term the same way blacks address each other with the n word; to take the power out of it. When a carpetbagger, lefty, or a member of another race uses that term it is a slur meant to demean those folks the term is intended to address. Don’t butter it up. Your hatred for this group is evident in your rebuttal. Nascar.. huh.. isn’t that a generality?
on November 10th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
We can pray that right wingers leave the U.S.A. and migrate, S. America or Eastern Europe, anywhere but the free U.S.A.
on November 10th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I continue to be surprised as a biracial person (who looks lilly white but also has black roots) at how we still today identify President Obama as black with little reference to the fact that his mother is 100% caucasian. It reminds me of the “one drop law” that is still on the books in Mississippi. Why to we refuse to call him biracial. I once heard someone ask him why he refers to himself as black, and he said because in Chicago if he is trying to hail a cab, he’s a black man trying to hail that cab. Interesting
on November 10th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
I recall recently Michael Savage being denied a visa to enter the UK, because of the vicious and thoroughly nauseating racist claptrap he’s known for spewing on the radio.
I can’t think of a single country in Europe (Well, Western Europe, at least) that would even consider giving visas to these mean spirited crackpots. And for them to imagine they could get visas is just more evidence that they’re living in a bubble, kind of like those people in the Romney campaign who were “shell shocked” that Obama won the election.
Too much Fox News is very bad for the intellect.
on November 10th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
God chose Obama as the leader of this country…if you have a problem with it, talk to God about it. Fear is NOT of God and shows selfishness.
on November 10th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Oh, what foolishness, Obama wins and the white race is threatened. What should be the attitude is that “Thank God for the USA with it’s Declaration of Independents declaring man’s equality forever so that any race, religious persuasion, could have the right to run for President and win.”
on November 10th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Fear? Why would I be scared?
5.2 trillion dollars in new debt and estimated to double in the next 4 years.
The ObamaCare tax is estimated to cost each tax payer $1,698 more per year.
46.5 trillion people on food stamps.
12.8 million unemployed.
6.3 million more people fell into poverty in the last 4 years.
The price of gas is up 97% from this time 4 years ago.
There is a total absence of immigration reform and a contempt for those who enforce immigration laws.
U.S. Foreign policy is in a complete shambles. Iran on the verge of a nuclear weapon. Israel, our only ally in the area is all but abandoned.
Benghazi Cover-up: Obama put his political gain before Americans in Benghazi and watched in real time as 4 Americans died.
Fast & Furious Cover-up: 2 Border Patrol agents are dead and we still don’t know what the hell Obama was thinking there.
Obama’s ineptness knows no bounds.
Scared? Hell yes!
on November 11th, 2012 at 6:39 am
As a Brit , listening to these right wing nutters is all very amusing – you sure are real bad losers – but a word of caution . In Britain we have vey strict immigration laws . Anyone outside the E.U just can’t get in , and that includes Americans . Anyway , you would hate it here – we have a National Health Service which gets criticised if its UNDERFUNDED !! We don’t have guns . We have active Trade Unions and , oh yeah , we have lots and lots of black people (& asians , chinese etc ) . You guys would hate it here . Why not go to Canada instead ?
on November 11th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
What makes them think Europe will take them?
on November 11th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
The Face of Truth is Now Revealed because racialization was always there. It took the supremacy to loose their make-up and show their hate and true God of Colonialsim, darkness.
The country was American and now shows the true American ancestory across borders. This is how we defind diversity. Not Whitehood! But Americanization!
on November 11th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
…i’m a 55 year old black male whom hails from the state of Tx.I now live in Al.I’ve been reading a lot of these (arguments)if you will and it seems to me that a lot of the writers are really upset that president Obama won a second term.Now from my recollection when George Bush was elected to a second term the black vote didn’t really matter but you know what we got over it and went on with our lives.I said that to say this,i feel if you can’t accept this then maybe you should move to another country and try putting up with it for 400+ years.Have a nice life.
on November 12th, 2012 at 1:41 am
No question about it. Jeb gets the Gold-Painted Propeller Beanie with the Tin Swastinker Propeller on it.
James gets the Silver-Plated Hammerhead.
Sam has a Mirrored Sunroom added to his Hall of Mirrors, so he may admire his best-beloved in a more dazzling light.
I confer the Golden Anvil on our newcomer, Mohawk, for his very creditable first appearance.
Erika already has her Radiant-Bottomed Peach Orchard, and I confer the Thousand-Watt Bulb on Aron for creating this ingenious award.
And all the rest of our precious metals, my worthy compañeros, let us again forge into glittering hearts, and send them the way of Brother Joseph, that he may emerge safely from whatever exigencies have beset him. Dearly do we miss him.
For me, three or four ibuprofen. A wall-mounted hose pipe burst outside my window, and my efforts to stop it have failed; I wielded a machete like an Antllean canecutter to get to the water meter, but the thorns are too fierce to get to the shutoff before daylight.
on November 12th, 2012 at 1:45 am
Neptune gets a 500 watt light bulb for his brief, pithy, excellent suggestion. As long as it’s not Michele Bachman, Sarah Palin, or anyone of like kidney.
on November 12th, 2012 at 3:12 am
I watched the 30 -30 on ESPN last week, how they, hoped that the interviewer was using this interview as a stepping stone to better the image of “OLE MISS”. We to say the least – that will not happen, as “OLE MISS” have shown you can’t change that good ole mentality. I worked in Batesville, Mississippi for a year, a few miles from the OLE MISS campus, just off Interstate 55 & HWY 6. I can truthfully say that I did not encounter any massive problems, but did have suttle exchanges – no OLE MISS have not changed very much. There are some that honestly want change, but you also have the “GOOD OLE BOYS” that will never change. There are some good people there, but the radical thread runs very deep for some. As an African American male, there was always that second look from people, as I walked by in my shirt & tie.
on November 12th, 2012 at 9:25 am
To Mr. Bailey, I leave a delicious all-beef hot dog (with cricket genes)
on November 12th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Most radicals, whether left or right, tend to live in a bubble and never leave their comfort zone for fear that their reality will be challenged and thus required to change. Their dogma is developed at an early age and since they stay in that bubble all their lives, nearly impossible to reach with new ideas. Compare the background of Obama with Mitt Romney and you see a stark contrast between a man who struggled for everything he achieved and a man born of priviledge, power and wealth who never had to earn a thing in his life. So who would anyone expect a struggling middle American would support for president.
on November 12th, 2012 at 11:18 am
The saying goes:”Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me”…
on November 12th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Rey,
Thank you for the lightbulb. Considering I had jokingly suggested that we change all of our bulbs to high-pressure sodium lights over the weekend, your contribution is much appreciated.
Remember, the best deterrent to theft is a house whose overhead lights are so bright they instantly blind you when they are switched on!
on November 12th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Leland D. Davis said,
on November 9th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
“A few points – race had very little to do with the reason most Romney voters voted for Romney.”
Supporting evidence for this claim? Have you personally interviewed “most Romney voters” about why they voted for him? And why “very little”? Wouldn’t it be better to claim that it had “nothing” to do with their voting?
“Another point – the only place I have heard talk about secession by conservatives because of Obama being reelected is in left wing rags, and here.”
So what other places have you looked? Do you spend a lot of time reading “left wing rags”? Have you not delved deeply enough into the SPLC website to see the numerous, well-documented articles and blog posts about secessionist talk from the far right? All in all, an exercise in argumentum ad ignorantiam – “I don’t know of any X, therefore there are no X.”
“A third point – racism has very little to do with conservative ideology in the US, except in the minds of fevered leftists.”
Who said it did? What’s under discussion is right-wing extremist ideology. You’re the only one I see trying to suggest that “conservative ideology” is automatically extremist. Does that make you a “fevered leftist”? And again with that “very little” – racism should have “nothing” to do with conservatism.
“One final point – 48% is losing, but it is not all that far from winning.”
Are we playing horseshoes here? And are we forgetting that Bush II got himself installed in the White House after losing the popular vote?
“So stop hating your neighbors who voted Romney, stop hating people for being traditionally religious, and stop inventing silly conspiracies (right wingers want to secede from the Union!) that only exist in your fevered imaginations.”
Um, who said anything about anyone hating Romney supporters or the “traditionally religious” (whatever that means)? As for the secession thing, since you keep harping on it, two words: Rick Perry. Oh, I guess the governor of Texas only exists in my fevered imagination.
“Or else you will end up sounding alot like those white supremacists you keep complaining about.”
You make it sound like “complaining” about white supremacists is a bad thing. But really, the only thing that would make someone sound like a white supremacist would be advocating white supremacism.
Jim said,
on November 10th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
“46.5 trillion people on food stamps.”
Um, that’s 659 times the total population of the Earth – which says everything that needs to be said about your understanding of the statistics and “facts” you’ve spouted here. For the most part, they’re just Romney-Ryan talking points derived from “research” by billionaire-funded “think tanks,” and which were totally debunked during the campaign. Apparently, the right wing’s fear-mongering was successful in at least one case.
on November 12th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Jeb, you adorable peach cobbler a la mode, if what i said offends you, you really need to get out of your mother’s basement more and experience life.
My grandfather was a farmer and one of the primary people running a county fair which included a dirt track (featuring some of the lowest levels of NASCAR sanctioned racing, tractor pulls, and demolition derbies). He was also one of the primary operators of the dirt track during the racing season (when my mother was young, she used to ride on the back of the water truck that he drove between races) and several of my relatives used to drive at that track. Naturally given that background, i’ve actually been to races and demolition derbies.
Obviously you have never been, because if you have, you would have gotten my point: no one other than insecure white nationalist trying to pretend that whites are discriminated against think that “redneck” is an insult – more likely, it is viewed as a label of pride.
So don’t act like i’m stereotyping, sweetie.
on November 12th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
There’s nothing wrong with these people that a good old fashioned injection of Thorazine wouldn’t fix.
on November 12th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Well, this thread brought out 254 comments so far, and I’m happy to see that the vast majority of them are joining in the applause for President Obama’s re-election.
Sorry I’ve missed all this back-chat, but this member of the FEMA conspiracy has been working 13 straight days and 13-hour days with that same evil agency and other evil elements of the Obama conspiracy to address response and recovery to Hurricane Sandy, helping hundreds of thousands of victims of that hurricane get vital information and resources to rebuild their homes and lives. We’ll worry about the re-education camps and UN military bases that the right-wing crackpots are so worried about later. In the meantime, I’d like to point out that we worked very hard to ensure that people could vote in the election…it would have been a lot easier for President Obama if we’d simply cancelled it.
Speaking of Obama’s threats to our liberty…if he was going to do all the horrible things that the extremist nutters say he’s going to do, why didn’t he do them back in 2009, when he had majorities in Congress and a wave of greater popular support? Why waste so much time, money, and energy on a re-election campaign? Just do what Hitler did back in 1933, take advantage of the chaos and slam an Enabling Act through Congress, and then whack all of his enemies and supporters.
Conspiracy theorists only understand history if it’s a tortuous and twisted program that leads to the imminent demise of civilization, which can only be averted by paying the theorist $27.95 (in US money) for their book/DVD/survival kit.
To the folks who are saying that the left wing is the violent one talking of secession…let’s have some names, dates, quotes, and sources, please. That’s the way it’s done in real life. You have a case, you build it and present it. You don’t make others do your work for you. That’s lazy. And both capitalism and Communism expect people to do their own work. One thing they have in common.
To the folks who are terrified of Obama’s presidency bringing down the American house, I find myself cracking up…I read the same stuff in the Republican campaigns of 1932, 1936, 1948, 1960, 1964, 1976, 1992, 1996, and 2008. Interestingly enough, they didn’t make those complaints in 1940 and 1944…they couldn’t argue with the success of the New Deal in the former, and there was an unimaginably bloody world war with real enemies going on in the latter. But in those other elections, we were told that putting FDR, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, and Obama into office would bring our destruction by the end of that candidate’s term. Needless to say, none of that happened. In fact, quite the opposite.
Does anybody remember John A. Stormer’s “None Dare Call It Treason,” of the early 1960s, which told us with a straight face that the Communists would take us over in 1968? Instead we got Nixon and Agnew. If you can’t find the book in your local stores, try Amazon. Or any flea market…it still pops up at a quarter a shot.
Or J. Edgar Hoover’s “Masters of Deceit” and “On Communism,” neither of which he actually wrote, flailing the Red Menace. It turns out that the FBI was the main financing arm of the Red Menace in the United States, with all those informants and dues-paying party members on the federal payroll. And the only places left in the world that support Communism are Cuba, North Korea, and the History Department at City College of New York.
Moving on…I have news for the people who say that the left wing is racist, and the right wing is not…is that why threats against the life of the president of the United States jumped 400 percent after Obama took office? How about the “birther phenomenon?” Is that a left-wing Communist conspiracy? How about all those Tweets after the election denouncing Obama’s re-election? Anybody want to tackle those? Well, the Secret Service will.
About the left wing being the one that hurls bombs — the Weathermen are all in their 60s. The Chicago riots of 1968 are more than 40 years ago. The surviving Black Panthers became supporters of Ronald Reagan and have admitted that they were wrong. Jerry Rubin became a stockbroker and died in a car accident. Abbie Hoffmann’s main target of abuse was his father. After he died, Hoffmann killed himself. Meanwhile, the right wing dragged Jasper Byrd to his death, tied up Matthew Shepard on a fence, gunned down Alan Berg as he was unloading his groceries, threatened federal judges (Matthew Hale), terrorized tenants and threatened federal jurors (Bill White), blew away his entire family and himself (JT Ready), shot up the Holocaust Museum (James von Brunn), and blew up the Alfred Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. The best the extreme left-wing can do is shriek abuse at extreme right-wingers and each other in demonstrations that mostly show how out of touch they are. Where’s the violence coming from?
I do want to say this, though. I have no hatred for people who voted for Romney. Many of them are, as William Manchester wrote, “America’s Yeomen.” They work at their jobs, take care of their homes, pay their bills, serve in the military and on juries, obey the laws, raise their kids to be good citizens and people, follow their faiths, and support their community and country. These are virtues that should not be snickered at. The tombstones in Arlington, Oise-Asine, and St. Laurent-sur-Mer do not differentiate by political leaning. And it often takes a conservative to achieve liberal deeds. Branch Rickey integrated baseball (which I think is the most important racial integration in America). Eisenhower sent the troops to Little Rock and warned against the “military-industrial complex.” Nixon created the Environmental Protection Agency, the National Endowment for the Arts, the Space Shuttle, and went to China. Ronald Reagan made the Soviet Union realize that Communism had no future. George H.W. Bush orchestrated a coalition to win the first Gulf War. When conservatives stress personal responsibility in life and firm punishment for convicted criminals, I agree with them.
And I absolutely agree with them about teaching and understanding the many positive achievements of American history and heritage. Last night, David McCullough said in an interview that he met university students that did not know that the 13 original colonies were on the East Coast of the United States. That’s absolutely a disgrace. More Americans are familiar with Kim Kardashian’s clothing choices and dating habits than the Americans who died at Pearl Harbor or marched from Montgomery to Selma. Such ignorance is a breeding ground for extremism — as people will readily believe lies that scapegoat others and conspiracy theories rather than the truth of our past, and as George Orwell says, “Who controls the past, controls the present. Who controls the present, controls the future.”
And for those who bewail the continuing collapse of the America that never really existed in the first place: the son of Nikita Khrushchev is an American citizen, who regularly speaks about how his father’s harsh rhetoric was merely bluster to cover up the Soviet Union’s incredible weakness. When Nikita pounded his shoe at the United Nations, he was actually terrified of us. Sergei particpates in American conferences on the Cold War, cheerily giving us the inside dope on what was really going on in the Kremlin. And Sergei is a capitalist.
The grandson of Isoroku Yamamoto, the man who attacked Pearl Harbor, Donald Yamamoto, is US Deputy Secretary of State for African Affairs. Also an American citizen.
Very few countries on Earth would accept the sons and grandsons of their fiercest enemies into their arms, making them citizens, letting them prosper, participate in historical discussions, and appoint them to positions of great importance in national policy. The United States does so, and benefits as a result. That is why I am confident that the United States and its core values will survive and succeed in the future.
And to Sam, who asks why I don’t post my name and links: as the death of Alan Berg shows, the extreme right has a nasty tendency of expressing its dislike of those who disagree with it, by gunning people down. Perhaps when such folks drop their Klan masks and behave like civilized people, I’ll be less reluctant to dig a trench.
To wrap up this soap box, I will address the eminent April Gaede…all the white nationalists you know voted for Obama? Doesn’t surprise me…they are probably hoping for the worst by doing so, fondly believing that the apocalypse will follow his inauguration, and hundreds of thousands of frightened white people will descend on your doorstep, begging you to lead the great revolution. Kind of narcissistic, that, don’t you think? And it never happens.
In the meantime, how are your daughters doing? That’s a fine legacy you have…ruining their lives with great efficiency. It’s sad that doing so will be the only thing for which you will be remembered.
on November 12th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
I have enjoyed reading most of these comments, especially the “liberal rants,” as I have been accused of such rantings myself.
But I must say to James who stated: “There is no racism here and i have many black friends at work who saw the same threats as i did.”
I am a Black American and I find your very statement, meant as an attempt of self-defense, to be racist in and of itself! “Many black friends AT WORK,” meaning that you don’t have “real friendships” with these black co-workers, and that you don’t actually “hang out” with them outside of your job. Have any of your “many black friends at work” been to your home? I don’t think so.
Better yet, why don’t you show your “many black friends at work” your posting on this site, and I’m sure that you will have NO black friends at work. No….wait….you’d probably pee yourself from the sheer prospect!
on November 12th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
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Oh Ms. Leland Davis, your ‘imaginary leftist conspiracy’ mongering has just crossed the threshold from Idiot America to cold stone reality!
on November 12th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Well the American people have spoken. They have elected a president whose values just over half of the country agrees with. So instead of being upset I’ve come to grips with just what happened here. America’s values have changed!
So now we have come to a point in history where we see the America we once new, and the values that built this great country coming to an end. The people have spoken and have now ushered in a new era forged on the vision of socialism in its basic infant form. No longer are Americans content with taking on the challenge of building a life for themselves in a country free of government intrusion. But in fact, the people are now crying out for their government to take care of from cradle to grave. No longer will hard work and responsibility for an individual’s decision be the deciding factor in the quality of one’s livelihood.
So I thought I would take some time to research just who it is that wants to change our country. Just who is it that voted for Obama?
1) Those who don’t want to take responsibility for their lives and just want a hand out.
2) The ignorant and deceived (mostly the very old and the very young) who watch too much liberal TV.
3) The racists who voted for him because of his skin color.
4) The purely evil, who live their lives without any form of Godly foundation.
I find some comfort in the fact that there’s still about half of the American people who are willing to take responsibility for their lives. Unfortunately it’s these people who will end up paying for the rest.
on November 12th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Mark,
What’s taking so long? There seems to be an explosion in “rightwing extremism” – even worse than the Tea Party – sprouting up all around you. Are you monitoring this in your bunker downtown?
Report!
on November 12th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
The good old SPLC inciting racial hatred where none exists.There’s no racial hatred. It’s all state media propaganda bullshit. When will you people learn the state makes a fortune off of you, the serfs, by playing up non events into some big deal. Hell, the SPLC has got like 300 million in funds from you saps. They make money from lies. Just read this crap from the SPLC.
“But not so at Ole Miss, which last month marked the 50th anniversary of deadly segregationist riots. Shortly after midnight, several hundred mostly white students protested furiously, reportedly yelling anti-black racial slurs and throwing rocks at passing cars. An Obama/Biden campaign sign was burned before campus police broke up the crowd in Oxford. There were apparently no arrests or injuries.”
Just look at this, what does 50 years ago have to do with today? Several hundred mostly white??? Really? Reportedly yelling slurs? Any videos of that? Every person has got two cell phones video cameras at the ready but not in this case. They burned an Obama sign? Well just call out the national guard. I can stick a cross in a jar of piss and put it in a museum and call it art, but an Obama sign is sacred? No arrests? No injuries?
The story should read, frat boys get drunk and make a nuciance of themselves. But the SPLC won’t make no money like that, neither will the government, nor the media. If they tell ya there’s loads of racism, well it’s gonna take a lot of money and a lot of agencies to fix the problem. You’re being played.
There’s no left or right, There’s no dems or reps. It’s a one party system. Everybody in the government gets payed by the federal reserve. That’s how you know who the boss is. When you go to work, who pays you? The owner. Right? When Obama goes to work, who pays him? The federal reserve. The owner of the franchise.
on November 13th, 2012 at 5:22 am
Aron, thank you, you are very creative *blows kiss* :)
Speaking of creativity, i’m pretty sure that even Mississippi would reject the new Confederacy.
And southern Georgia would create too many issues with logistics, transportation, and the obvious danger a bunch of white supremacists who are no longer allowed to freeload off the federal government would pose to nearby peach plantations.
on November 13th, 2012 at 7:25 am
It should be pointed out that food stamps are also a subsidy to the greater economy. Grocery stores, suppliers, transport, even energy utilities providing power. The cash is being spent. If foodstamp “entitlements” were cut from the budget a lot of jobs would be lost, crime would go up, and the People would not be better off.
on November 13th, 2012 at 7:48 am
If some people have been wondering why I haven’t been posting so much, it’s just that ever since Obama got reelected I’ve been busy prepping Russian cargo planes for the United Nations invasion he ordered last weekend. We still really don’t know why he is doing this but we follow orders.
on November 13th, 2012 at 8:56 am
My, three Hammerheads have appeared in a row! Welcome back, Hunter’s Phallus. Are your pituitary shots working? NWOSlave, did they kick you off Manboobz again? Guardian, your face looks familiar. I know I’ve seen you and your rather truncated view of history before. Are the three of you having a Tea Party together? How spritely! Are the cookies good, or do you have to toss them? (Ruslan, please throw them a pack off that Russian cargo plane while you’re at it.)
on November 13th, 2012 at 9:06 am
RC. You actually Believe comparing backgrounds of Obama and Romney reveal Obama to have struggled for everything and Romney never did? Romney paid his way through college to an advanced degree, and built businesses that have made him millions of dollars. He ran corporations, ran the Olympics, was Governor of Mass. How much of Obama’s lengthy education did Obama pay for? This argument you make is typical of liberals who show (to me) their hatred of people who succeed in business? Has Obama ever had a regular type job or produced anything tangible? Not that he should have, because many honorable people live a lifetime doing other kinds of work. People like me just do not have a business aptitude. It is kinda scare to think there are many more people like you whose prejudice blinds them to the truth. Yes, only a blind person could compare Obama’s and Romney’s educational and work histories and think Obama is superior in either area.
on November 13th, 2012 at 9:57 am
this article is another dishonest attempt to link the anti-racial mainstream right with the racist ‘radical right.’ The racist radical right was anti-romney and pro-obama, believing the President will push the day forward when their proposal for a “white ethnostate” will be considered by more people. For that to happen Republican Party also needs to be discredited as the party that seeks to protect “white interests.”
on November 13th, 2012 at 10:11 am
My, this Tea Party is getting bigger than I thought. Folks, let’s all help Ruslan toss those cookies.
on November 13th, 2012 at 10:19 am
People, have you guys heard this!
As of this morning a total of 20 states are gathering signatures on petitions that would force the Obama administration’s response to requests to “peacefully grant” states withdrawal from the U.S. and allow the creation of new state-governed bodies.
Now they want to secede from the UNION!
Can someone give me a history lesson and tell me what the hell happened the last time some southern nuts, wanted to secede from the union?
Response to: why is the left so intolerant?
Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them – Karl Popper
on November 13th, 2012 at 11:26 am
“vast majority of them are joining in the applause for President Obama’s re-election”
Dear Kiwiwriter – I refuse to celebrate “the electorate’s surrender of their own will; this by rendering themselves so dependent upon the central government” Alexis de Tocqueville in the early 1800′s
on November 13th, 2012 at 11:53 am
These 20 states may indeed secede from the Union, but they will never secede from the Onion.
on November 13th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
“I refuse to celebrate “the electorate’s surrender of their own will; this by rendering themselves so dependent upon the central government” Alexis de Tocqueville in the early 1800’s”
So because they didn’t vote the way you say they should have, they surrendered their own will? In other words to not surrender their own will they have to surrender their own will and vote for the candidate you prefer.
And yes, the early 1800′s are so relevant for today’s America. When you talk about people dependent on the federal government, who is that actually? Defense contractors? Farmers? They sure as hell get a lot of federal money.
on November 13th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
You know…it never ceases to amaze me when these extremist nuts spout their segregation nonsense. Though I’d like to see all of them leave this country…unfortunately…like winning the lottery, such joy would be next to impossible to achieve. Indeed, many have low paying jobs, uneducated, and are cowards of the first order.
To this end, what on earth makes them think any european country would even consider them for immigration. Perhaps…in lieu of their simple minded rhetoric, their time would be better spent revisiting the history of the civil war and its outcome. Like the southern slave owner, they are morally bankrupt and are being used by the rich.
Oh, and one last thing segregationist, when you get up in the morning and put on your Taco Bell, KFC, or other such uniform, ask yourself, is it minorities or your lack of education that is responsible for your lot in life.
You see, it is your ignorance that makes you believe that you are somehow the choosen of God. Well…let me put it to you in terms you can understand. General Robert E. Lee prayed everyday to the Lord to grant him victory and knew his prayers would be answered in the affirmative until Appomatox. In the end, he told his general’s, God was against us. Like you, he diluted himself into believing that the cause was God approved.
Hatred, then or now, is eternally unacceptable in the eyes of God. I hope you learn this before going to hell….
on November 13th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
And we hear from “Guardian,” who sees socialism under every bush…the exact same rubbish was spouted in 1932 and 1936 when FDR ran for election and re-election, and the socialism and “unGodlyness” that Guardian so fears didn’t happen…
And Hunter Wallace comes here to do an advertisement for his “Occidental Quarterly” web page and its hatred of blacks, then run away again…
And “NWOSlave” grinds his penknife about his paranoia about the federal reserve…
And “Never Give Up” thinks he’s being clever and standing on Horatius’s bridge by saying he won’t celebrate Obama’s win and quotes Alexis De Toqueville. If he’d read my entire essay, which he obviously did not, he would have seen that I have considerable respect for conservative positions and views, while still being a liberal. He should do his homework, instead of just cherry-picking.
The outpatients are out in force, I see. Well, they should stop wasting their time here, and join the various secession movements, and start building their little utopias, free of Jews, blacks, gays, Latinos, and women.
My advice to them: the election is over. Quit whining and grinding penknives, and see what you can do to improve conditions in your corner of the world. I’d tell you to hug your kids, but I suspect most of these folks don’t have any.
on November 13th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Honestly, I was just wondering if Mark had noticed the recent uptick in “rightwing extremism” around here.
on November 13th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Hurry up, you racist nut baggers… there is still time to sign the petitions to suceed on the White House website.
Just stay put until the men in the black suits driving black cars come to your house to interview you and ask you how you really feel.
Man, the right wingers are such a bunch of drama queens!
I have to say many of you regulars on here are really good at creatively expressing your insults. It gives me a good chuckle. If you want another one, just google “KKK vs. Clowns in Charlotte NC”.
on November 14th, 2012 at 9:42 am
It’s ironic that those threatening to move to Europe and elsewhere would be moving to the very things they don’t want in America: universal health care, more foreigners, and a higher tax rate on the wealthy. In Europe and in Canada, there are more restrictions on hate speech, severely more restrictions on guns, and, in some countries, there are more liberal drug laws.
on November 14th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
I am at a loss as to why the liberals harbor so much hatred for America’s founding principle. Are they too ignorant or arrogant to see that it’s because of these principles America is the greatest Nation on the planet.
We are being fed, and over half of all Americans have eagerly swallowed the lie that redistribution, i.e. Socialism will all of a sudden cause America to prosper.
For the few of you liberals who actually read things before making a decision… Socialism definition: ‘any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods’
Thomas Jefferson said, “To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father’s has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.” — April 6, 1816
Barak Obama said, we need to “pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution because I actually believe in redistribution.” – October 19, 1998
It’s obvious to me that looking out over the past 200 years that Thomas Jefferson knew what he was talking about. It’s just as glaring looking at the past 4 years that Barak Obama has no clue.
on November 15th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Guardian, quit making stuff up.
on November 15th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Nothing starts the morning like a good laugh. In this case, it is Guardian accusing others of having no clue. Physician, heal thyself.
on November 15th, 2012 at 9:59 am
… and the 30 to 60 billion dollars that were taxen from the American tax payer for waste and fraud during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan…
What, exactly, would you call that? Profit that the corporations earned by holding a bake sale?
None of the tea baggers or the Republicans were concerned when we spent and spent and spent to make Halliburton and KBR filthy rich.
on November 15th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Gregory, you’re right! Have a powdered sugar donut!
on November 15th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
One for you, too, What?.
on November 15th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
and so it goes, on and on…
on November 15th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
“We are being fed, and over half of all Americans have eagerly swallowed the lie that redistribution, i.e. Socialism will all of a sudden cause America to prosper.”
Oh yeah I remember growing up during the Cold War and all my teachers from K-12 used to tell us how great socialism is. And didn’t you get sick of all those Soviet propaganda films on TV? I sure did. Hell I don’t even know why we had a Cold War!!!
“For the few of you liberals who actually read things before making a decision… Socialism definition: ‘any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods’”
Incorrect. Socialism is a mode of production(not an ideology) wherein the means of production are owned in common by the workers(i.e. producers). “Various economic and political theories” is a dishonest attempt to make the definition more wide.
Nobody among American liberals is advocating socialism. If they claim otherwise, they most likely have an equally poor understanding of socialism as you.
Thomas Jefferson said, “To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father’s has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.” — April 6, 1816
Here’s the problem with this concept. Your average banker, investor, whatever did not “exercise more industry or skill.” They appropriate the value produced by workers. This is exploitation.
And I’ll see your slave owner and raise you…THOMAS PAINE
“In advocating the case of the persons thus dispossessed, it is a right, and not a charity … [Government must] create a national fund, out of which there shall be paid to every person, when arrived at the age of twenty-one years, the sum of fifteen pounds sterling, as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance, by the introduction of the system of landed property. And also, the sum of ten pounds per annum, during life, to every person now living, of the age of fifty years, and to all others as they shall arrive at that age.”
Your Obama quote is also false. The FULL quote is:
“I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody’s got a shot. How do we pool resources at the same time as we decentralize delivery systems in ways that both foster competition, can work in the marketplace, and can foster innovation at the local level and can be tailored to particular communities.”
Doesn’t sound too much like “All power to the Soviets” to me. In any case, someone who is actually a socialist, Marxist, or whatever would leave behind a body of work similar to oh I don’t know…EVERY MARXIST intellectual who ever lived.
“It’s obvious to me that looking out over the past 200 years that Thomas Jefferson knew what he was talking about.”
Jefferson probably knew what he was talking about. You clearly don’t though.
on November 15th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
When we kill others in their country it is called patriotic…
When our people are beaten down by corporate welfare it is called freedom…
When war money is spent improving the lives of the average American, it is called socialism…
“We need to do some nation building here at home.”
POTUS
on November 15th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
You’ve surely earned your donuts for breakfast, Ruslan. What kind do you like?
on November 16th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Sorry, I’m on a no sugar/low carb diet. But thanks anyway.
on November 16th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Well, Ruslan, I’d offer you a fresh egg instead, but since my only chicken is a rooster…
on November 18th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Sugarless tea is an abomination, but I’ve learned to drink it. And long ago, I used to like my coffee the way I liked my men: strong, dark, and sweet, but the brew, at least, works just as well without the sugar.
on November 19th, 2012 at 8:16 am
The propaganda posters have always stated that Ruslan can subsist for weeks on end merely by absorbing the moisture from the air.
The truth is that if he chooses to eat at all, it is through compassion for the common people, who cherish his humanity and even preserve the samovar in which his sugarless tea was boiled as a relic.
on November 19th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Well, Ruslan, as an aid to a high protein diet, it appears Aadila and I have just given you a generous serving of…ribs.
on November 19th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Rey should get the Bon Bon Mot for a sweet play on words.
on November 19th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Actually, Aadila, I cannot give myself awards, but I covet the Epigrammy.
on November 21st, 2012 at 2:10 pm
What, is everyone going to go away just when we’re approaching the 300 mark?
on November 21st, 2012 at 2:45 pm
The whole of the libs strategy is if they call blue, green and green, blue long enough eventually people will buy it. And even though a lot of people did buy it, it still doesn’t make it the truth.
on November 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Hatred is a healthy human reaction to an existential threat. The growing non-white population in American is an existential threat to the continued existence of whites. Therefore it is healthy for whites to hate it.
on November 23rd, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Gotta love these hate groups since the GOP will really be in THEIR corner as most of these guys are illiterate, below the poverty level, hate their miserable sad lives, wife beaters oh I could go on and on. Let’s see they hate Jews,Blacks, Homosexuals, what else. These fro the most part are the fringes of American society no diffrent than terrorists, and anti-government radicals. You cannot reason with these folks since their hatred blinds them to the truth. Give them their own state with their own president(white of course) their guns and their chewing tobacco. Really they want to secede from the US let em. Let’s give em a one way ticket to Iran, Pakistan, any other 3rd world country where white men rule. Go I’ll buy the first one way tik!
on November 26th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Hey Guardian and Common Sense,
Please explain this existential threat to me. I’m white, and I don’t see anyone trying to snuff me and my family out.
Also Guardian, would you mind trying that comment again? Perhaps in English this time?
Oh, and hatred is NEVER a healthy reaction. Except to Brussels sprouts. They possess an evil that will never be matched by man.
on November 26th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Guardian,
There were fact checkers from both wings during the debates and time after time, the Republicans were proved wrong in their comments, whereas the Democrats were substantiated.
In other words: YOU LIE!!!
on November 26th, 2012 at 11:07 am
300th comment GET!
(Isn’t that how they do it on 4chan?)
on November 26th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Guardian, I don’t think your tiny brain can grasp the concepts of turquoise, malachite, peacock, and aquamarine.
Most inaptly named Common Sense, I have enough common sense to grow my own fruit, put up my own fences, paint my own house, and perform simple repairs – besides publishing some books and doing the cover art- but I do not feel threatened as a white person. Nor am I anti-white: my house is white, my wheelbarrow is white, my fence will be white when the prime coat cures, and I have a father cat and a daughter cat who are white and blue-eyed.
on November 26th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Aron, in many respects the waffles and chocolates from Brussels are actually much more [deliciously] evil than the sprouts ;)
on November 26th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Or teal, Rey. Guardian cannot grasp the concept of teal. Much less teleology.
on November 26th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Erika there is also beer. Tasty, tasty, tasty, tasty beer.
(I could really use a drink!)
on November 27th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Well, Aadila, teal is a gray area.
on November 28th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Well I would have used the more common term of black and white, but we all know where that would have gotten me.
Aron, I’ll try to talk down to your level in the future. Wouldn’t want you to miss anything.
Aadila, there is not a conservative in existence that couldn’t take lessons from Barak Obama on lying. After the second presidential debate, Candy Crowley realized what a fool she made of herself and apologized for siding with Obama in his lie about his statements regarding the Benghazi murders. She had to admit that “Obama did not, in fact, say the attack was an act of terror”, as Obama insisted he had during the debate. So who’s lying?
Remember these favorites from the Liar in Chief himself:
-The Fast and Furious program was a field operation begun under the previous administration.
-My budget will cut the deficit by $4 trillion over 10 years
-I will not rest until the BP oil spill stops
-ObamaCare fee is not a new tax
-Mr. Ayers…is not someone I exchanged ideas from on a regular basis
-I didn’t know Jeremiah Wright was radical
-This will be the most transparent administration in history
-I visited all 57 states???
-Was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity
-I barely knew Rezko
And my personal favorites:
-You didn’t build that
-And…I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of the president of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
on November 30th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Oh poor widdle guardian, have all of the other kids left you alone? Now run along widdle troll because your mommy is calling you for dinner
on November 30th, 2012 at 9:49 am
I have just been scanning all the responses and so have not read them all, but am hoping that we might come to a point where we can respect those who have different opinions from ours and treat everyone with respect. It seems that we lower ourselves when we stoop to name calling and sarcasm.
People who we think have crazy ideas are still people, like us.
on December 1st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Marcia,
I tried the whole ‘respectful debate’ thing or about a year. Then I realized I was getting nowhere, especially since most trolls here are hit-and-runners. So I decided to deride them with every bit of my tiny (right, Guardian?) intellect.
It is much more fun that way.
on December 1st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Oh and Guardian, the fact that I couldn’t understand your comment was your fault, not mine. Might I learning how to use commas in the future? Or *gasp!* maybe even a semicolon!
on December 10th, 2012 at 12:33 am
Well Aron and Erika, I expected as much. As the libs before you and all those will unfortunately come after, when your arguments on the issues falter you revert to name calling. Like schoolyard bullies overcompensating for their intellectual impotency.
Grow up!
on December 10th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Guardian,
When did I call you a name? I said you were a poor writer. That’s not a name.
But I will call you a name this time: immature liar.
And even that’s not really a name. It’s a state of being.
on January 15th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Oh, there is something missing in this post. You should have ended with: “And remember folks, there is no such thing as the radical left… or propaganda, unless it is right-wing propaganda…then it exists.”
on January 26th, 2013 at 2:20 pm
Two comments:
We do have a Democracy and the President won both the popular vote and the electoral college.
Second. I would love to contribute to helping all those racist bigots and wackos move to Europe. Where to I send the money? :)
on March 3rd, 2013 at 12:00 am
All you obama supporters have several things in common. You all resort to ridicule, sarcasm and name calling whenever a statement of truth pricks your God given sense of good and evil. You refuse to accept the fact that obama is nothing more than a very charismatic foreigner who manifests everything abominable according to the Word of God , the Bible. You all fervently believe that obama is a deity and you will worship him regardless of all the blatant evil that is manifest in him. To you, there is no words of wisdom other than what spews forth from his mouth. He preaches a gospel of envy and covetousness. He tells you that you are entitled to the fruits of other peoples labors. He promotes laziness and dependency instead of cultivating excellence of character and development of your God given abilities, while condemning those who have achieved success in America by thier hard work and strength of character, as evildoers. You choose to believe these lies. One thing for certain. God is not decieved or in any way approving of obama or your Idolatry. You cannot persuade anyone to your way of believing by citing anything of truth and substantial holiness about your false god. You cannot use truth because it is the light that will reveal your own wicked and evil nature. The Day of Judgement is inevitable. Your false god will be dealt with in truth and in righteousness. He and all his followers.
on March 8th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
We truly have a REDNECK MORON AMERICA now.
on March 31st, 2013 at 9:00 am
The left is destroying itself by the very nature of its policies. It has happened countless times throughout history. The progressive marxist left attacks anyone who does not support them. This is normal for the left. Rampant spending, bloated entitlements, and very poor military and fiscal policy have never and will never work as history shows. Sadly America will collapse because this is their plan. However we will survive and restructure. As with europe they want you to believe you are te minority. Just remember 61.5% of Americans identify themselves as center right. And hardline leftist or socialist represent less than 5% of the population. Read the communist manifesto and rules for radicals and you will understand the minority left. They are galvanizing Americans, Christianity is actually growing faster than ever, and people are becoming more politically aware….support your true conservative leaders and community organizations and realize its ok. The left has failed and they dont even know it.