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American Renaissance Speakers Call for White Homeland

By Hatewatch Staff on April 7, 2013 - 12:03 pm, Posted in White Nationalism

Over 150 white nationalists gathered yesterday at Montgomery Bell State Park outside Nashville, Tenn., for the American Renaissance conference. This year’s event featured new speakers and a noticeably younger audience, with half the crowd raising their hands after Jared Taylor, emcee of the event, opened it by asking, “How many of you are first time attendees?”

One first time speaker was “RamZPaul,” real name Paul Ray Ramsey, whose series of YouTube videos have racked up some 4.3 million views in the last four years (only former Klansman David Duke seems to have outpaced him among web-savvy racists, with more than 6.7 million YouTube views in the same time period). Posting what he calls “mostly satire that pokes fun at the establishment,” the 49-year-old Tulsa suburbanite’s sarcastic videos have become a weekly staple on major racist websites including Vanguard News Network and Stormfront.

Ramsey is becoming a hero to many on the radical right. “Ramzpaul is brilliant. A huge asset,” gushed anti-Semitic Cal State Long Beach professor Kevin MacDonald last January. Ramsey’s videos often appear on MacDonald’s racist site Occidental Observer. Last April, one of Ramsey’s videos opened with a shout out from Kyle Bristow, author of the racist novel White Apocalypse, which graphically depicts the murder of a fictional character based on a Southern Poverty Law Center employee.

At American Renaissance, Ramsey’s topic was “Sex and Nationalism,” and basically consisted of an attack on feminism mixed in with rather crude racist jokes. Ramsey said, “Feminism is a disease. What is the cause? It is the delusion that the sexes are equal. It is the mother of all delusions.” Apparently, Ramsey is very concerned that women’s focus on their careers, which often delays when they have children, is making our society matriarchal. The result, says Ramsey, is submissive men that white women don’t care to marry. Ramsey asserts, “We need more growth in white children” and white “secession.” If not, “Men’s rights will end. Christians will end. White conservatives will end.”

He seems less concerned about black women’s fertility. Ramsey said sarcastically that forty percent of all abortions are performed on black women. “In my neighborhood, it’s called Crime Stoppers.” He concluded his anti-feminist rant with a “joke.” “How can you tell if a white supremacist agrees with you? They say K-K-K.”

After his speech, Ramsey took a question from Matthew Heimbach, a member of the racist League of the South who has been in the news much of late for forming a white student union at Towson University in Maryland. Heimbach liked Ramsey’s speech, but wanted to know how to move forward in creating a white’s only homeland. “Where do we create our ethno state?” Heimbach asked. Ramsey’s answer: “We need to Balkanize and create our own homeland. We have a right to exist.” He suggested the Southwest for Latinos and the Southeast for African Americans.

Jared Taylor, head of American Renaissance, also took up the white homeland message. He opened his speech saying, “We want a homeland where we are a majority. We almost had one in the United States of America.” Taylor worries that by 2060, whites will only make up thirty percent of the population and Latinos will be the majority (The U.S. Census Bureau predicts whites will become a minority in the 2040s and no ethnic or racial group will be the majority). “Our government is permitting a neighboring country [meaning Mexico] to invade our country. We have a government of traitors,” Taylor raged. He lamented, “White people who express a desire for a homeland are labeled as haters.”

Much of Taylor’s talk was made up of relatively random racist or sexist rants. He asked, “Why would anyone believe the races are equal? And, “How can anyone think women should be in combat? Males and females are different.” Even if this weren’t true, Taylor complained, “the idea of sending the childbearing sex into combat is stupefying.” For Taylor, the end of white power began with the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education Supreme Court decision that desegregated public schools. But now, he says, the “insanity has gone well beyond race.” Sounding more ominous than usual, Taylor concluded, “We want a homeland…Think of secession…Think of hometowns. We have to build them ourselves…Survival is the first law. We have no choice but to keep fighting.”

Heimbach asked Taylor the same question he asked Ramsey: “The federal government will continue its genocide of our people. Where should we go? What is the best way to create a homeland?” “It will work itself out organically in ways we can’t predict,” Taylor responded. “White anger may erupt in places we’ve not heard of…Eventually we will wake up.”

Richard Spencer of the white nationalist National Policy Institute also plugged for a white homeland. Spencer argued for “peaceful ethnic cleansing,” a process he did not explain, that would clear parts of North America for Caucasians and suggested that the new state welcome white refugees from Europe. Spencer advocated a “sort of white Zionism” that would infuse whites with the dream of such a homeland just as Zionism helped spur the creation of Israel. “It is perfectly feasible for a white state to be established on the North American continent. Action is the easy part,” Spencer opined, adding, “I have a dream.”

Other speakers took up themes about race and intelligence more common to past American Renaissance conferences. For example, Byron Roth, professor emeritus of psychology at Dowling College, spoke fondly of eugenicists Arthur Jensen and Jean-Philippe Rushton, both of whom died in 2012. Roth explained to the group that American education is failing because of the inferior genetics of its increasingly minority student body. He displayed a series of charts supposedly proving this thesis that showed that the IQs of whites are higher than those of blacks and Latinos, but lower than those of Asians. Roger McGrath, a retired history professor and sometime contributor to the History Channel, spoke as usual on a seemingly unrelated historical topic that serves to extol white achievement. Yesterday, his PowerPoint presentation highlighted World War II flying aces. He called them, “Warrior Heroes of our Tribe.”

The event will be rounded out with speeches by John Derbyshire, who was fired from the conservative publication National Review for his racist rants; Fabrice Robert, president of the Bloc Identitaire, a French nationalist movement; and Sam Dickson, a Holocaust denier and former Klan attorney who has closed every meeting since the conferences began.

Some prominent white nationalists skipped the conference. David Duke published an open letter on March 25 saying that Taylor has requested he stay away because he is “too controversial.” Duke’s letter reminded attendees not to forget the “real architects of [white] genocide,” which for him are Jews. Don Black, who runs the racist forum Stormfront, also took a pass this year.

  • Barbara

    It is interesting that Jews and all other non-European people are permitted their own countries. It’s only those countries with European indigenous people that are being forced to become non-European.

    Motivation to specifically wipe out only those countries’ indigenous inhabitants (United States, Europe, Australia, Canada), appears sinister and suspicious.

    Native Indians were indigenous to European settlement. Now, Both European-Americans and Native Indians are indigenous to the current invasion of Third-World settlements.

    It would be a good idea to review the UN’s definition of genocide and Indigenous Peoples’ Bill of Rights.

  • aadila

    Mark,

    I present this poem to you and all who care to read it, by W.S. Merwin. I wouldn’t normally take up so much space with something relatively off topic but I do think it has relevance to your advisory. It is my way of saying thank you. And oh, Mark, from the heart. Thank you. My hope is somewhere beyond right and wrong, beyond good and bad, beyond love and hate, we can reach what we are all looking for, together.

    Listen
    With the night falling we are saying thank you
    We are stopping on the bridge to bow from the railings
    We are running out of the glass rooms
    With our mouths full of food to look at the sky
    And say thank you
    We are standing by the water looking out
    In different directions

    Back from a series of hospitals back from a mugging
    After funerals we are saying thank you
    After the news of the dead
    Whether or not we knew them we are saying thank you
    In a culture up to its chin in shame
    Living in the stench it has chosen we are saying thank you

    Over telephones we are saying thank you
    In doorways and in the backs of cars and in elevators
    Remembering wars and the police at the back door
    And the beatings on stairs we are saying thank you
    In the banks that use us we are saying thank you
    With the crooks in office with the rich and fashionable
    Unchanged we go on saying thank you thank you

    With the animals dying around us
    Our lost feelings we are saying thank you
    With the forests falling faster than the minutes
    Of our lives we are saying thank you
    With the words going out like cells of a brain
    With the cities growing over us like the earth
    We are saying thank you faster and faster
    With nobody listening we are saying thank you
    We are saying thank you and waving
    Dark though it is

  • Erika

    if the South Pole doesn’t work due to the risk of harming penguins, the North Pole could work – and with them constantly pretending to be Vikings anyway, maybe we can convince Denmark to give them Greenland. Its very white there and would be quite symbolic when the modern day pretend Vikings follow in the footsteps of the real Vikings in failing to colonize Greenland.

  • Mark Potok

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    As a lot of you know, we’ve developed a problem with the antagonistic nature of the comment threads on Hatewatch. As a result, and after talking to some of you, we’ve decided to try and restore some civility and sense of community.

    From now on, we’re just not going to publish comments that include name-calling of any kind, no matter whose side of a particular issue you’re on. We’re not going to publish guttural expressions of racism, anti-Semitism, gay-bashing, misogyny and so on. We will publish white nationalist arguments, but only if they’re presented civilly and calmly, like the fellow from Stormfront who recently made an effort to politely argue with other commenters here. We will not publish bogus claims about certain groups’ alleged inferiority, and we won’t publish links to racist sites or sites that contain misleading or false statistics. Finally, we plan to stop publishing comments from a few posters who have become a real problem on our threads.

    This is not an attempt to censor people’s thinking, but it is an effort to make Hatewatch more of a community of people discussing important issues. We don’t want it to degenerate yet another Internet shouting match.

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  • concernedcitizen

    I agree with you Aron! Penguin’s are loving and accepting animals of course I’ve watched the march of the penguins and they can get a little nasty over their eggs.

    But I agree that they would not want to host the mustard race. That is a very funny term!

  • concernedcitizen

    Ruslan, you are so correct when you stated: They hate feminism because feminism gives women the right to reject them, whereas they think that by virtue of being “white” they must have good genes and that women should be with them just for the sake of being breeding stock.

    This is very true! They are dehumanizing their own “supposed family branch” they are reducing people to breeding stock. Honestly, I wouldn’t want to be in any relationship where I was considered or reduced to “breeding stock”. Which could be why some of these people are so terribly unhappy and causing so much havoc and inciting so much hate.

  • concernedcitizen

    I am reading comments from John concerning his ideal of the genetic chart that he is building up in his mind.

    Who cares! We will not lose one race over another. Just stop trying to halt progression. When we learn to just let Americans unite and live free we will indeed be a great country again. But with all of this inner fighting and discord it’s no wonder we see growing homegrown terrorism and the Federal Government is just the scapegoat for some of these terrorists groups to exact their violence on society.

  • Reynardine

    C. M., your sleuth hound deserves a Porterhouse steak.

  • CM

    One more random comment that I forgot earlier: “This machine kills fascists” was the slogan Woody Guthrie had painted on his guitar. His guitar. So it’s not an incitement to violence, it’s an incitement to listen and think and feel. That’s what’s fatal to fascism. Violence, or the threat of it, and ignorance are what fascism thrives on.

  • Aron

    Concerned,

    Penguinis are loving, accepting creatures. They would never want to host the Mustard Race.

  • concernedcitizen

    Erika I agree, that’s a good relocation spot for them. I was checking for Penguins in the South Pole; I don’t think the Penguins will have them.

  • concernedcitizen

    Bodhisattva, Arizona is way too close. They need to be sent very far away.

  • Sam Molloy

    Bodhissatva, they would positively ruin Scottsdale. Rusted drums of beer cans and unidentified tractor parts in every yard. Ugh.

  • CM

    A couple of random points amid the hubbub:

    • One reason for the overall hysterical tone of the comments on this post is that a lot of them were written by the same person using different names. I count 10: Edward, John, Marilyn Phagan, Rob, Jonny, Jason, Paul Kersey, spukie, aporiac and yes, anti-racist. Maybe also haily chen. And that’s giving the benefit of the doubt to a few more. It’s the same JasonAnnieEzraEugene et al. spouting the same incoherent nonsense as always.

    • Regarding the historical priority of Hispanic settlement in North America, it’s important to remember that today’s Latino Belt in the Southwest was forcibly annexed to the U.S. through an illegal war of conquest. The Mexican residents there became U.S. citizens whether they wanted or not. But now, it seems, some of us don’t want them to be able to become U.S. citizens even if they do want to.

    • Speaking of the execrable Edward: I do live in a black-majority Census tract (not “track”). I also attended a majority-black high school after attending an all-white elementary school. That all-white school is where I first discovered that racism is fundamentally a matter of ignorant bullies saying ugly things about people they don’t even know. Nothing I’ve heard in the almost six decades since then has given me any reason to change my mind about that.

  • aadila

    I’m with you, Erika. I understand. My point is just that trolls feed off the reaction they get, like cockroaches sucking spoiled foods. If you cut off the food supply, they tend to go elsewhere.

    Brock, for all his misadventures and stunning record of losses in these debates, shows the potential to become evolved. He’s not swirling in the toilet bowl obsessively like “John” or simply spouting off some half baked, unverified factoid he heard at church or on AM radio, like so many occasional visitors. He seems genuinely interested in bettering himself.

    It’s frustrating, tragic even, to see him haul this truckload of anger and hate down the path toward learning. Maybe it will become clearer to him over time that knowledge is not about holding to one’s own ideas, the way an alcoholic clings to the bottle. It is about discarding and reassembling those ideas when they have served their purpose. Nor is it about being “right”, but rather finding out why we are wrong, and adapting to new discoveries. That’s real knowledge. Maybe one day he’ll get there.

    The test will be if he can actually admit when he is wrong, but as long as he feeds off the conflict he won’t have the opportunity. That’s all I was trying to say. That and a small, probably fruitless expression of hope that one day we might evolve as a species.

    And Brock, I do hope you realize this cuts both ways. You are putting yourself on the side of people who waste their lives causing harm to others, people who murder, burn down places of worship and residences, and celebrate the holocaust as a victory. It is a path toward ridicule, scorn, and some cases, incarceration. All lead to unhappiness. Is that really who you are?

  • Aporiac

    I watch Ramzpaul’s YouTube videos. He has some non-mainstream views, but mostly he’s an ironist and is often very funny. He’s done a video on the SPLC’s assessment of him. On balance it’s fairer, less prejudiced and closer to the mark than the above piece. While the SPLC is busy deciding who is a hate-group and who is not, who is monitoring the members, affiliates and allies of the SPLC? The SPLC has its own ideological slant, its own biases, intolerances and prejudices just as every other political group does. However, few are as blind and as hypocritical.

  • Bodhisattva

    Hell, give ‘em Arizona. Just build a wall around the West, North, and East side of it. Let them worry about the South. Of Course that means all highways, pipelines, and the power grid will be cut off as well. Also, all normal sane people will be given the chance to evacuate first. They get to run the whole thing. From planting, irrigating, and picking crops, to getting to the stores and restaurants. Cooking, cleaning, serving, waiting tables,, you name it. I wonder if they’ll have a minimum wage?

  • Erika

    if they want a “white homeland” they should move to the South Pole. Its very “white” there.

  • CM

    Re Brazil: Anyone who thinks “racial mixing” is a bad thing should read some of the novels of Jorge Amado. Either they’ll learn to see it as a good thing, or their heads will explode.

  • Shane

    Uncle Jed is a good guy :)

  • Steve

    Isn’t this the same attitude the Jews living in Israel have about their own race? Don’t dare show any pride for your own race in this country, or you’re put on SPLC’s hatewatch list. Give me a brake!

  • jim

    please, please, please let these people secede; they need their own place to display their hate and ignorance and to live their short miserable lives.

  • SinghX

    Marilyn asked: “What is hate? I think I know what love is.”

    If you “think” you know what love is then you must know that hate is love perverted…

  • Brock Henderson

    One problem with your prediction about Hispanics being referred to as “white” in the future, Erika: The Irish, Italian, Jewish, and Eastern European immigration waves of the mid-19th to the early 20th centuries ENDED, allowing for assimilation. Heard of the Immigration Act of 1924? So, you think you could point to some type of plan on the horizon the government is formulating today, to put a stop to the wave that started in 1965?

  • Sam Molloy

    Brock, the original 13 are now chock full of Liberals who are more Socialist than even modern England and the Netherlands. The other states joined the United States willingly, as a free choice in favor of the original precepts that we were founded on. Including Spanish speaking citizens. I don’t deny that our Hispanic population is growing. I don’t think the majority is as Far Left as a lot of the up East, elite, effete, Liberal snobs who think they alone know what is best for the rest of us. Except for the language barrier you choose to have, you might have a lot in common with them.

  • Erika

    aadila, i attempted to interact with brock as if he is a rational human being with a capacity to learn – i gave up trying to be a nice girl quickly due to the stream of hostility from him

    brock, even using your silly overly literal definition you are still wrong (there were Spanish settlers in Georgia prior to the American Revolution and Sweeden originally colonized Delaware – there were also French settlers in portions of the new United States – especially around the Detroit area).