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Stormfront Radio Going Off Air?

By Heidi Beirich on December 27, 2012 - 1:22 pm, Posted in Extremist Propaganda, White Nationalism

Don Black, the founder of Stormfront, the oldest and largest white nationalist forum, is apparently trying to figure out what to do with his and his son Derek’s radio show, “The Derek Black Show.”

In a recent Stormfront thread, Black noted that as of January 20, 2013, the ownership of south Florida’s WPBR, the surprisingly Haitian-oriented station where the Black show which caters to white racists is based, changes. However, he said that the current owner would like Black to stay with the internet broadcasting service after January 20, but Black isn’t sure he wants to do that, and said that he may end the show tomorrow (December 28) because of a recent “screw-up,” he said, with the radio show’s archives.

According to Black, longtime conspiracist and broadcaster Jeff Rense has offered his network to Black, which is “less expensive,” Black says, and provides a separate server for smartphones. The Rense network also harbors David Duke’s radio show. But even that doesn’t appear to be a perfect solution, because Black is worried about scheduling with his current hosts and, ultimately, he says, “I never intended to do this show, not even going into the station when we first set it up for Derek three years ago.”

Don’s son, Derek, is currently attending New College in Florida and has not been active on the radio show in some time. Recently, there have been questions about Derek’s commitment to the racist views of his father. In response to student concerns at the college he attends, Derek posted in an online student forum that he is not a white supremacist, supports gay marriage and is pro-choice.

Perhaps Derek is signing on with his mother, Chloe Black? She told the Palm Beach Post in 2008, “I am not involved with the Web site [Stormfront] and do not agree with extremist or racially prejudiced views.” When queried recently by Hatewatch about these rather unorthodox statements given Derek’s long history of white activism, Derek confirmed that he had made them. But he also claimed that he still thinks multiculturalism is harmful to whites and that he still believes in white nationalism.

While the fate of the show remains unknown, Don Black encouraged anyone who wanted to save “the over 600 shows archived by the station” to do so now. He did say he’d put the archived shows on the Stormfront servers, but he’s not sure what arrangement will remain with the station.

It is unclear if fundraising issues are contributing to the current situation. According to Stormfront, the site is today about $2,500 away from receiving enough donations to cover its monthly expenses of $7,500. That number includes the cost of the radio program.

Prominent Stormfronters were downbeat. Al Kelz, one of several Stormfront supporters recently contacted by the SPLC regarding their reasons for backing the site, posted, “We took over a small part of the enemies airwaves and used them to broadcast our message to a much wider audience. An audience that would never read SF [Stormfront], or other WN [White Nationalist] sites…I had hoped the show would be syndicated. But every time we got a chance, The Jewsual, I mean usual suspects complained and the results were as disappointing as they were inevitable.”

Kelz ended his posting lamenting his financial difficulties and how they were contributing to those of Stormfront. “I don’t care about me but this is yet another WN project that must go under because of my financial collapse. I accept full responsibility for the loss of the show and for the loss of Guilt Free Radio.”

  • http://racistnomore1.blogspot.com Scott Shepherd

    Derek Black finally woke up and broke the hold his dad had on him

  • jblow

    Why don’t you stop stalking white gentiles, Jews?

  • Chris

    He means Jews are always the first to shut white rights to a nation down because they fear another Hitler, and they are always first on the case. It would be stupid to do what Hitler did in the 21st century, I mean, nuclear warfare?

    White Nationalism isn’t a supremacy organization, in fact, Hitler was stupid and was detrimental to the cause by making people hate it more.

    Of course, white supremacists would join the site, but that’s not what it is about, it has nothing to do with supremacy at all, it is about preservation of white culture and having a nation of their own.

    The homeland, US, Australia, NZ, SA are all multicultural, and we all know how bad it is in South Africa, so where else can like minded people go? They get no rights and are already deemed racist the moment they talk about white culture preservation, yet everyone else has a homeland and are in the majority.

    Is it our fault for 1 mans stupid mistake? No, that is just racist in itself. We’re already a minority, and have no rights to our views yet everyone else has a right in their own nations they came from, so is it any wonder people get violent? Their liberties are being ignored.

    White people get run out of neighborhoods that were once predominantly white and of course, not allowed to go walking down that street ever again, this happens all the time and is government backed. How is any of this fair? Seriously, deny people of their liberties and they will get violent, it’s common sense, if other ethnicities are allowed streets and nations of their own, then whites are too.

  • Kiwiwriter

    Ezra/Eugene/Annie/Jason is back!

    “Heidi Beirich (the author of this article) has a Ph.D. yet is paid less than $70k at the SPLC. On the other hand, Mark Potok is her boss but he only has a BA degree yet he earns almost $160k. I ask you, is this fair?

    I believe Heidi Beirich should be Mark Potok’s boss and make more money than he does. Morris Dees makes over 300K per year and lives in an enormous, beautiful mansion. If Heidi were the chief, she’d run it without these jerks bossing her around and she could buy a beautiful mansion even bigger than the one Morris Dees has! This whole situation is wrong. Heidi Beirich is more qualified and has a more advanced degree than Potok. Yet Potok gets to be on TV all the time, makes more money, and he gets to boss everybody around in the office. How is this fair?”

    I’m sure Dr. Beireich is touched and gratified by your message of support…I’m so glad you are beginning, in a small way, to see the light, and recognize the importance, hard work, dedication, and commitment that Heidi Beirich and her crew are displaying in their efforts to combat racism. This is a definite step up for you.

    I think you should break out the typewriter in the Dean’s office of your college, and bat out a letter to Mark Potok on your collegiate stationery and letterhead, and say that very point in support of her getting a raise. As a fellow Ph.D., with tenure, you can compare her salary with yours, and argue the cause with your usual eloquence.

    I do have to ask…why are you so jealous of leftists who live well? What, they didn’t earn their mansions? Seems to me that you’re highly jealous of people with advanced degrees, who do hard work to benefit all mankind, who perform vital acts of community service…after all, “you all probably live in a college town in a crummy basement apartment, doing drugs, with no job, never even had a girlfriend. They’re probably all gay, unattractive, effeminate, overweight slobs. Basically deviants. So they get mad when the see a normal healthy man who has a job, looks good, is clean cut, and has a real job and a wife and family, and has a nice home and car he worked for. So these losers are all jealous.”

    Sounds like a description of yourself…living in a college town in a crummy basement apartment, doing drugs, with no job, etc., etc….only the drugs could explain your daffy pronouncements.

    Anyway, you still haven’t taken my test. It’s below, with more questions added.

    We’re all waiting for the answers from the great oracle!

    1. If you’re here to “debate leftists,” why are you ignoring their responses?
    2. If you don’t read “their posts anymore,” why are you here?
    3. How can you have their posts on “permanent ignore,” when they’re put on a weblog, not sent in a stand-alone e-mail to you?
    4. When you have had a “real job and a wife and family, and a nice home and car he worked for?”
    5. Why should Ruslan Amirkhanov “go away?” Are you the webmaster of this site?
    6. How do you propose to enforce that demand?
    7. Do you seriously expect anybody to obey your demands at this point? You have already stated that we are “crazy,” so why are you issuing them?
    8. If Ruslan is a “crazy person” and you “don’t read him,” why should it matter if he is here or not?
    9. On that line, why should it matter what he writes? Is he ruining your life?
    10. You have repeatedly stated that what appears on this web page “does not matter” and is “not important.” Why, then, are you so concerned with it?
    11. Do you believe that freedom of speech only applies to you?
    12. What legal or racial theory is that based on?
    13. How are you such an expert on the lifestyles of leftists?
    14. According to you leftists “all probably live in a college town in a crummy basement apartment, doing drugs, with no job, never even had a girlfriend. They’re probably all gay, unattractive, effeminate, overweight slobs. Basically deviants. So they get mad when the see a normal healthy man who has a job, looks good, is clean cut, and has a real job and a wife and family, and has a nice home and car he worked for. So these losers are all jealous.” If “leftists” are “deviants” in the first place, why would they be “jealous” of others?
    15. Leftists include Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, and John F. Kennedy. Were any of them “gay, unattractive, effeminate, overweight slobs?”
    16. Leftist war heroes include Theodore Roosevelt (Spanish-American War), Harry S. Truman (World War I and dropper of two atomic bombs), John F. Kennedy (World War II), George McGovern (World War II), Al Gore (Vietnam), and John Kerry (Vietnam). Were they “gay, unattractive, effeminate, overweight slobs?”
    17. What is the definition of a “normal, healthy man?”
    18. Why is having a “car he worked for” so critical to normality? What if you live in a major city where parking is a nightmare?
    19. As a Ph.D. and a university professor, you must work with colleagues who do not “look good,” or are necessarily “clean cut,” nor can afford a “car he worked for.” How do you get along with them?
    20. Does the term “projection” mean anything to you?
    21. You indicate intense anger at and obsession with leftists who have made a great deal of money and live well through their own energy and hard work. Is this because you still live in your parents’ basement and have never earned a penny in your entire life?
    22. You claim that I and the other regular posters here are deviants who live in “crummy basement apartments in college towns” who have never had jobs, wives, or girlfriends. Please give your research, sources, footnotes, and interviews that have enabled you to come up with such a detailed description of our lives, and explain to us who we are and what we are doing.
    23. You have asked us for our “10-year-resumes,” which I presume is part of that research. Since you are now defining us, please present those “resumes” for review.
    24. In one of your many incarnations, you have urged your opponents to do the following: “I urge both of you to focus your lives on real world issues that will improve your lives, such as getting a better paying job, joining the military, getting married, saving up to buy a home, or doing anything that will make a real man out of you.” Have you done any of the above?
    25. If you have joined the military, please list your service branch, medals, and campaigns.
    26. We notice that nowhere in your prescription for life to you include the concept of “community service.” Can you explain this?
    27. Please define “Community service.”
    28. Have you engaged in any acts of community service, e.g., serving in government, supporting charities, mentoring youth, participating in fundraisers for charities or awareness campaigns to address diseases, or even given blood?
    29. If so, please list all such incidents.
    30. You have also stated, “The posters on here are all a bunch of anti-white bigots and haters. They speak nothing but lies.” Why are you therefore continuing to engage “liars” in dialogue?
    31. Why are you so obsessed with the sexuality of leftists and whether or not they have girlfriends?
    32. You indicate that leftists are “gay.” Why would a gay person be “jealous” of someone with a “wife” of the opposite sex?
    33. Where did you gain you expertise in gay lifestyles?
    34. Why have you changed your sex in your names?
    35. You say that all leftists “live in college towns in crummy basement apartments, doing drugs, with no job.” By that logic, how do they pay the rent?
    36. You claim to have a Ph.D. and be a tenured professor. Where is that college and what do you teach, and what have you written for your dissertation?
    37. What do your colleagues and students think about your statement denouncing your “college town?”
    38. Does watching black women perform on music videos make someone an expert on black culture, or on the culture created by black musicians and white music promoters?
    39. Why, if you think that American blacks are not “your people,” are you so fascinated with black music videos?
    40. How does the behavior of black performers in music videos compare with the behavior of white performers in professional wrestling?
    41. Have you done any peer-reviewed or accredited term papers on the connection between music videos and the behavior of ordinary black and white people? If so, please provide the link.
    42. You are apparently well-informed on the sexual practices and movements of black women. What research have you undertaken in this field, and where can your reports be found?
    43. Did that research include sexual encounters with black women? If so, please list all of them, the types of encounters, positions used, the personal information about the involved persons, and whether or not these encounters were provided willingly or for hire.
    44. Did you practice “safe sex” during this research?
    45. How do you square these acts of miscegenation with Nazi racial laws that forbid such behavior?
    46. Have any of these encounters resulted in children? If so, are you supporting them?
    47. Does watching documentaries about remote African tribes make one an expert on African-American life?
    48. Are loud and pushy women in supermarkets a threat to America’s survival?
    49. Are loud and pushy black women in supermarkets a threat to America’s future?
    50. Are you being forced to marry or reproduce with loud and pushy black women?
    51. Why are you so obsessed with loud and pushy black women in supermarkets?
    52. Are these loud and pushy black women preventing you from shopping?
    53. Have you written a peer-reviewed academic paper on loud and pushy black women in supermarkets? If so, please provide the link.
    54. Does watching music videos featuring loud black women and seeing loud and pushy black women make you an expert on famine in the Ukraine in the 1930s?
    55. Are you sexually obsessed with loud and pushy black women?
    56. You indicate a fascination with loud and pushy black women. Do you find quiet and polite black women sexually attractive?
    57. Please list any and all black women that you find sexually attractive.
    58. In what field did you earn your Ph.D. and where can we find your dissertation?
    59. You claim that you answer all arguments with data. Please provide links to this data, and show that it has met academic standards. (As a Ph.D. with tenure at a university, you must know what those are)
    60. Tell us how the Russian people greeted their Nazi invaders with flowers, with proofs and citations.
    61. Tell us how Stalin intended to mate captured German civilians with monkeys to create a super-race, with proofs and citations. Your statement: “In the closing days of WWII the Soviet army was an entire army of rapists. Stalin had a secret agreement with Churchill and Roosevelt to take 4 million German civilians as slaves to Siberia to work in the Gulags — German women, old people teenagers, children. German babies were even taken for medical experiments. Stalin has a nightmarish dream of breeding humans with gorillas to create a super race of human/ape hybrids, which of course, failed. Read yourself in the Yalta agreement. It says the Soviets can take civilians as ‘labor in kind’ — meaning SLAVES!” Can you prove this with documentary evidence, such as examples of this “super race of human/ape hybrids?”
    62. Why would “human/ape hybrids” be a “super race?” Would they be superior to, say, the Aryan race?
    63. Please give your academic credentials in biology and anthropology in support of this statement.
    64. Tell us how Norman Rockwell sided with Hitler, with proofs and citations.
    65. Please give your academic credentials in art in support of this statement.
    66. Show us your proof that the white man is superior to the black man, with academic citations.
    67. You have also told us that you do not associate with neo-Nazis like Hal Turner, and so forth. Yet you have also said, on May 3rd, 2012 at 11:20 pm: “What’s wrong with being a neo-Nazi?” You have also said, “America is an evil country. While our brave young men were fighting in the East to stop the Asiatic hoards [sic], America bombed our civilians. There were no German soldiers left in the cities near the end of WWII. There were only babies, old people, young children, women. Yet the Americans bombed these civilians. During all this time our brave young men were fighting against Communism. America is an evil country. America fought on the side of evil during WWII. And evil won that war.” How can you rectify this hypocrisy?
    68. What do your colleagues and superiors at your university think about you being a neo-Nazi adherent?
    69. As an educator, how do you treat Jews and blacks in your classes?
    70. Have you received any complaints from them for your racism or anti-Semitism?
    71. In this post, you said the following: “#47 Comment By Jason Smith On May 7, 2012 @ 12:17 pm A.D.M., Ruslan, Erica, Reynadine, Aron, etc … You will have to start doing your own work. Read some books. If you want to hire me as a consultant , I might do it, for a consulting fee of say $500 dollars per hour. I might be willing to give a speech at one of your events but I would charge a fee. Minimum $10K plus travel expenses. But no, I’m not going to do anything for you for free. FYI: I do not read any of your responses. I never click on your links. I am not going to do any work for you or answer your questions for free. I don’t do that.” Does that mean you are only involved in neo-Nazism for personal gain?
    72. If you will not provide information, except for vast fees, how do you propose to gain adherents among the poor and disenfranchised?
    73. Isn’t demanding money for personal financial gain in exchange for proving your cause a tactic of the Jews and blacks that you despise?
    74. Why are you using tactics of the very people you detest?
    75. Doesn’t behaving like a Jew or a black make you a Jew or a black?
    76. When are you going to provide us with that e-mail address for our 10-year resumes?
    77. You have said, “Someday you’ll be on a talk show, flogging one of your novels, and you’ll complain, ‘I once debated this guy named Ezra on the Internet and he ignored all my posts, even though they were so clever’. Then you will burst out into tears on live TV.” Care to explain this in 1,000 words or less?
    78. Isn’t a statement like the above an example of using the evil leftist debate terms of “epithets, slurs, invective,” and therefore not becoming a white nationalist and neo-Nazi?
    79. You gave the following statement on the death of JT Ready: “#5 Comment By Jason Smith On May 3, 2012 @ 6:20 pm I do not believe this story. I believe it’s a setup! Note, the press release calls him the “apparent” shooter, and “The evidence to this point, which will still be verified …” So it’s not yet proven what happened. It may be a setup. It could be another hoax. It is far more likely this crime was committed by a gang of Communists and JT Ready was set up! Communist gangs operate all along the southern boarder smuggling drugs and illegal aliens. That’s a fact!” Can you provide proof that JT Ready was murdered by a Communist gang?
    80. You indicate that Communist gangs are smuggling drugs and illegal aliens. Since such activities are done for profit motives, in connection with powerful capitalist drug cartels, how do you reconcile this discrepancy?
    81. Do the profits from the drug trade finance Communist activities?
    82. At the same time, numerous members of the Aryan Brotherhood are heavily involved in the production and distribution of methamphetamine, an illegal substance, to the public and in prison systems. Are such activities in keeping with Nazi traditions of purity?
    83. How do you reconcile their activities as being different from those of Communist drug gangs?
    84. You have made the following statement: “#2 Comment By Annie On August 20, 2012 @ 1:15 pm There’s nothing wrong with being a racist. A racist is merely a person who recognizes the existence of other races, yet prefers the company of his own people. Just as gays began coming out of the closet, I say it’s time for white racists to do the same. I feel more comfortable around other white people. When I go to a restaurant, or shopping, the community where I chose to buy a home, etc … My racist views shape all my decisions, and I think that’s good. I encourage all white to become racists. When more of us come out of the closet can we find acceptance for people like us. The people who hate white racists will be forced to accept us and our beliefs. That will occur when millions of us come out of the closet. There are so many of us they won’t be able to stop us or do anything. Only when white racists are united and come out in groups will we be able to force complete acceptance of racism.” How do you reconcile this statement with the violent and often genocidal acts of fellow racists?
    85. There have already been examples of racist societies: the Confederacy, Nazi Germany, and the Aryan Nations compound in Idaho. They have all failed. If they are based on racial superiority to their enemies, why and how did they fail?
    86. You repeatedly ask us to defend or deny various statements and positions. However, you have also stated that you refuse to read anything we say. Why are you asking us questions about our positions if you do not read our answers?
    87. You have also stated that we are “Communist liars.” If we are liars, why are you asking us where we stand on any issue, since all we state are lies.
    88. You have repeatedly said that you can create a website with your own worldview. Why have you not done so?
    89. You have repeatedly given differing topics as being the “important question.” Can you indicate a set of principles, aka a “political platform,” to consistently give your positions?
    90. Since your positions, names, identities, and views are constantly changing, how can you say you have any core integrity?
    91. If we are all crazy people, why are you wasting valuable time here instead of making your own web page?

    You will be tested on this material. Please fill in all the information. If you fail to do so, the questions will be repeated until you have completed the assigned test. If you do not complete the assignment, you must withdraw from the class. See the bursar’s office.

  • Aron

    It was Kaiser Sozestein.

  • http://remedial-redneck.blogspot.com/ Remedial Redneck

    All I can say, if it’s the Jewsual suspects, thank God for them.

  • adamhill

    And Eugene doesn’t have a high school diploma, can’t make enough from his fast food job to pay the rent, and so hasn’t yet moved away from his mother’s house. I ask you, is this fair?

  • Concerned Citizen

    The people who runs Stormfornt and other WN outlets will manage to find a way to survive. It won’t be easy. Stornfront lies about things. You can’t distinguish the truth for lies.The left will always find a way to get their voices heard, even if everything isn’t the true. Hey! It’s okay. Propaganda is propaganda no matter how it is churned out by those on both sides.

  • Reynardine

    Happy New Year, most of you. And even you, Eugene, will be happier if you get a brane, moran.

  • Linnea

    All this fun reminds me: isn’t it about time for the annual Hatewatch Smackdown Awards? I always look forward to that… if for no other reason than to see Mark Potok and crew have some fun with what has to be a very serious, heavy job most of the time.

  • RMB

    And nothing of value will be lost.

  • ray

    Dang all 23 of Their listners will be hard pressed to find quality shows like that.

  • Eugene

    Heidi Beirich (the author of this article) has a Ph.D. yet is paid less than $70k at the SPLC. On the other hand, Mark Potok is her boss but he only has a BA degree yet he earns almost $160k. I ask you, is this fair?

    I believe Heidi Beirich should be Mark Potok’s boss and make more money than he does. Morris Dees makes over 300K per year and lives in an enormous, beautiful mansion. If Heidi were the chief, she’d run it without these jerks bossing her around and she could buy a beautiful mansion even bigger than the one Morris Dees has! This whole situation is wrong. Heidi Beirich is more qualified and has a more advanced degree than Potok. Yet Potok gets to be on TV all the time, makes more money, and he gets to boss everybody around in the office. How is this fair?

  • Simon

    Brian: Yeah, maybe so. But I think they were looking to draw people from an untapped souce: a.m. radio. There’s so much competition in cyberspace. I’m thinking that it would take them forever to build sufficient listener numbers with podcasts and such.

  • Reynardine

    Erika, Ruslan, Kiwi, scroll down to the ancap thread and collect your awards. Sam, your remark was deserving of Pun-ishment. A Silver Stripe to you. Aron, surely you deserve a Good Humour Bar.

  • John

    One just can’t get enough of Christmas leftovers

  • Aron

    Sam, that was very funny!

  • Erika

    While this is all very funny, the funniest part was following the link and seeing that the Stormfront people were paying $275 an hour for their show. That seems seriously cheap to me which makes me think that this station doesn’t exactly have a very large audience or broadcast area where they actually consider $275 a step up for a mid-morning slot.

    The fact that they broadcast most of the day in French also seems to support that notion.

  • Brian

    Simon: It’s hard to say. But, they could always produce podcasts or streaming audio over the Internet.

  • Simon

    If the radio show ceases, will Stormfront’s influence be reduced significantly?

  • Sam Molloy

    Jewsual Suspects? I do Nazi anything funny about that.

  • Kiwiwriter

    I’m sure they’ll find money to keep it going. There is always money for hate.

  • Aron

    It’s definitely the Jews’ fault. It has nothing to do with the fact that no one wants to hear your message of hatred. Certainly not that.

    What a bunch of losers!

  • Reynardine

    They were broadcasting on a Haitian station, but they weren’t well received because of Jews?…