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Alleged Plotter Against Obama Was Member of Supreme White Alliance

By Mark Potok on October 28, 2008 - 10:11 am, Posted in White Supremacist

SWA Ning pageDaniel Cowart, one of the two men arrested Friday in an alleged plot to assassinate Barack Obama and murder more than 100 people, was a member of a racist skinhead group formed earlier this year. The group, the Supreme White Alliance (SWA), posted a note after the arrests saying that a “probate” member — clearly Cowart, although the site didn’t mention his name — had been booted out some time ago.

SWA Ning pageCowart, in fact, is described as “member #3” of the SWA on the group’s Ning site (Ning is a social networking site), meaning he was the third to sign up for an account on that site. In “Daniel Cowart’s Supreme White Alliance page,” Cowart describes himself as “easy going and easy to get along with, as long as you are White!” In addition, a photo obtained by the Southern Poverty Law Center shows Cowart at a birthday party held for Adolf Hitler last April along with others linked to the SWA. The group is displaying a birthday cake marked with its SWA acronym.

SWA cake

It’s not clear if Cowart’s alleged partner, Paul Schlesselman, was a member or associate of the group. The SWA posting suggests that he is not.

The two men were arrested after federal agents uncovered what they described as a plot to go on a multi-state “killing spree.” In an affidavit, the ATF said that the two, both of whom it described as holding “strong” white supremacist beliefs, had met via the Internet in late September. They later got together and allegedly decided to kill 88 people, followed by beheading another 14 African Americans. (The numbers are neo-Nazi codes representing white supremacist slogans.) Officials said they also intended to target a predominantly black high school, a gun store, and individuals who they planned to rob to raise money. The final act, according to the affidavit, was to come when both men dressed in white tuxedoes and top hats and attempted to shoot Obama as they drove toward him while shooting through the windows, agents said. Both men fully expected to die in their final attack.

The SWA Ning site also carries a page showing “Daniel’s Friends,” belonging to Daniel Cowart, that lists as a friend Steven Edwards (posting as “Stevenfuckit08″), the current president of SWA. Edwards is the son of Ron Edwards, who is the imperial wizard, or national leader, of the Imperial Klans of America (IKA), based in Kentucky. The Southern Poverty Law Center is currently involved in civil litigation with Ron Edwards and the IKA over the beating of a teenage boy in 2006. The case is scheduled for trial on Nov. 12.

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  • joe

    What a big joke! At the same time Homeland security,the ACLU and SPLC is wasting their time going after innocent Christians! The real torrist are going to make them an offer they can’t refuse! Either except their God or end up headless! What a bunch of stupid morons you people really are!

  • Asheq Islam

    Kowtow Rebel: Re. the “Aryan Brotherhood”(which must be big in Texy), what’s so “Aryan”, let alone “brotherly”, about selling narcotics to other Whites?? You White Supremacists/Racists/Rednecks imply that ‘ALL the criminals/outlaws are Colored’, but this is patently absurd —: What about all the Whites, Non-Coloreds, who’re crims/outts TOO??
    What color blood runs thru your vessels??
    Speaking of ‘Confed Texy’, the martial artist/actor Chuck Norris himself, & his screen persona, “Cordell Walker, Texas Ranger” — as Aryanly White, Nordicly Non-Colored as they seem on screen to one outside America — are ‘both’ Colored…..Amerind. How does this make a Southern ‘Whiteist’ like yourself feel — that such White-looking symbols of All-American Glory are actually…..race-mixed Colored mutts??
    Heil Hitler

    & Sieg Hiel to you too, Horst Wessel.



  • Aslan Maskhadov

    Your “judgment” was demonstrably wrong, Cowtown, and then you respond with “I have you pegged”? Interesting. I guess the sky is green and penguins fly according to you as well.

    And thanks for the “history” lesson Mark, but experience has taught me that history is not a strong point for conservatives, which is why they overwhelmingly supported the war in Iraq.

  • moe

    I just think + know white folks have the right to say + have a stand for them/ it’s been too long since we all stuck together-you can bet all the other races have always done so. I’m not supporting any acts of misdeeds- but truly believe it’s so-just look at your current election, and the blacks- hispanic-gays votes + we are dealing now with the younger America! It’s really scary. I hope all of us true believers in a better America can stick together. If the skin heads did try an attack- it was a bad idea. No body should ever kill to get attention. Thats the lame way. We have to just wait-never kill- and try to change the world in other ways, God Knows Obama won’t. Hope I have touched a chord.

  • Mark

    History 101 (Crash course)

    For those that don’t know about history … Here is a condensed version:

    Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter.

    The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together we re the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:

    1. Liberals, and
    2. Conservatives.

    Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That’s how villages were formed.

    Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement.

    Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q’s and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.

    Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girlie-men. Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the dom estication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

    Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.

    Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalist s, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn’t fair to make the pitcher also bat.

    Conservatives drink domestic beer, mostly Bud. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, members of the military, airline pilots and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.

    Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservativ es were coming to America . They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.

    Here ends today’s lesson in world history:

    It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it.

    A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true believers and to more liberals just to tick them off.

    And there you have it. Let your next action reveal your true self.


  • Cowtown Rebel

    Vicious V,

    I know that the Children, the Elderly and the Sick and Infirmed are in your way. That is what Euthanasia and Abortion are for, Right Comrade? Taking care of the helpless gets in the way of partying and having irresponsible, carnal escapades.

    I can’t imagine you silly peace-niks fighting for anything. You knee-knocking, cowardly bohemians would sit idly by and watch your Grandmother get carted off into Sexual Slavery. So, don’t give me this garbage about being the last line of national defense. Who would you choose for the Director of Homeland Security, William Ayers? On second thought, you would probably abolish that arm of the government completely as being a remnant of a time when America wished to keep its borders secure and its people safe.

  • Cowtown Rebel

    Well, I am sure glad to see that all of my comrades haven’t left me. You guys will certainly want to check out my latest revelation I posted on the “David Duke Brouhaha” blog. I do not want to repeat myself too often, so I will act in good faith and take it for granted that y’all will give ‘er a gander. But, trust me when I say I plan to make the most of it.


    I sure had you pegged! Thanks for the confirmation. You probably already know that YOUR homeland is worried about being overrun by the Chinese and that Premier Putin has suggested plural marriage as a way to increase the dwindling population. Perhaps, if you had any allegiance to your own birthplace, you would be there trying to help with the crisis of YOUR countrymen, instead of being over here spewing your Bolshevik nonsense. GO HOME!!!

  • Mark

    a counselor? That’s a good one. Lord have mercy on anyone that you would try and give direction to. Look at what you have writen and the names you have called me, Maybe it’s time for you on the couch.


    Good day councelor.
    Ha ha ha ha ha……..Oh boy I feel sory for your family and your friend Gino. lol

  • Vicious V

    GENO, I think it was a great thing that President elect Barack Obama reached out to the Native American population. It’s time to acknowledge all Americans. Hopefully, we will see more of his interactions on the reservations in the future.

    Aslan, ditto what GENO said. You are well rounded and well informed. “We” appreciate your input.

    cowtown, What does Barack Obama has anything to do with your previous sets of comments. John McCain has moved on, Sarah Palin has moved on. Republicans have moved on. You keep getting stuck. When this terrible disaster you keep talking about happens, what are you going to do. Ban with the American people and her allies and fight this enemy, or continue to sit in your lonely room at the computer belly aching about how Barack Obama should not be president, blacks always want hand outs, Mexicans need to go south fo the border and whites are superior? If or when such a catastrophe occurs, I want you to take your sorry cry baby butt in a fall out shelter with the children, elderly, sick and infirmed and let the faithful American men and women handle the job. You’ll just be in the way.

    Mark, you’re just an idiot. You are stuck on more than just stupid. You’re stuck on some very wicked stuff. You keep bringing up race. What are you? Do you even know? Is that why you want to draw so much attention on other’s race, because you’re a mutt? Who’s your daddy? Did your mother lie to you? Is that why you’re angry. I’m a counselor and I would really like to know. Only for the sake of therapy. Frankly I could care less what you claim to be, because it’s only obvious you are the biggest moron on this blog. Now you may respond with more tears of “Poor Me”.

  • Aslan Maskhadov

    Mark, I live in Russia. I already left. But before you decide that you are the definitive American, take a look at the breakdown of voting on Tuesday and ask yourself why so many Americans don’t seem to agree with your values.

  • mark


    GENO, typical liberal talk! everyone else is below me. Ha ha ha.

    Bet you never got a date in school. ha ha ha

  • Mark


  • GENO: the_warrior1492

    Mark just like I said before and I`ll say it again; none of your petty little comments adds up to anything. You failed to even acknowledge or even understand the “U.S. Constitution”(see my orginal posts on Grampa McCain`s ignorance on the U.S. Contitution and why he was not eligible for the U.S. Presidency).

    “Who cares”(???)

    The whole world cares, you flippin` moron! Try taking you head out of your ass every once in awhile, will ya?

    “The fact that he’s a socialist”

    Oh please! You don’t even know what “socialist” means, you merely play robot by repeating trite phrases popular with know nothings in your ilk. Regardless of your severe lack of knowledge on anything, I won’t be addressing your next lame rebuttal, that I would see as a waste of time.

    Isn’t Ignorance bliss?

    Asian Maskadov,
    As always, your eloquent comments never ceases to amaze me. Keep up the verbiage, I always learn something new from each of your posts.

  • Mark

    Ashcan, Congratulations to Obama, even if he is a bit too far to the right for me. You can leave any time, I will even pay for your one way trip back to Mexico or where ever your third world home is from. Don’y let the border wall door hit you on the way out!

  • Mark

    GENO, who cares? The fact is he is a socialist that hates this countries Constitution and everything it stands for (like you) so how is that good for the country? Never mind don’t answer that Iknow Iknow he is half black so that will save the day, is he not half white? Is he half white or half black and why does this matter so much to you?

  • Aslan Maskhadov

    Wow, Cowtown, there are so many logical fallacies in that last statement I don’t know where to begin. A good start is that “appeal to authority” regarding the Protocols and Henry Ford. See that’s really great that he believed they were true and all- but it turns out they were false, and they were proven false, mainly when the source material they were based on was found.

    As for the decline of the country, this is due to historical conditions. The US was not always the world’s most prosperous nation. It became that because there were two massive wars in Europe and the Eastern hemisphere, and the US was able to maximize production without suffering damage to its infrastructure. As the British and French empires were failing, the US stepped in to take their place, but instead of expending manpower and resources by physically occupying many countries, the US used neo-colonialist tactics. Indeed, much of what you have enjoyed nearly all your life in terms of material abundance was created one way or another by non-white labor.

    Only the Soviet Union could really compete at that time, but in the early 60s, due to ideological revisionism, it basically shot itself in the foot though it remained a serious contender until the unnecessary surrender in 1991. Naturally, nothing last forever, and other superpowers have been rising. Right now the most powerful economic entity is the European Union, not the US. China is another strong contender. Thus it is complete idiocy to blame the decline of the US on a multi-ethnic society because the European Union was incredibly multi-ethnic, in fact multi-national, from the beginning, while it is rising in power.

    It is not surprising that people in the South voted against Obama. There are many idiots in America who may be suffering economic oppression, yet will ALWAYS vote against their interest because they think some guy goes to the wrong church or because it is incredibly important for them that gays can’t get married. They will live in squalor, with no hope for their children’s future, so long as gays don’t get married. And you would pin America’s success on these idiots?

    Congratulations to Obama, even if he is a bit too far to the right for me.

  • Cowtown Rebel

    To the Canuck,

    As America goes, so goes Canada. Do you remember when the 2000 New Years celebrations were canceled in Seattle, because some Arab came across the Canadian border with a trunk load of C-4 and the intention of blowing up the Space Needle? One of the masterminds of the 1993 World Trade center bombing was living in Arlington, Tx. and running a tire shop for 10 years before carrying out his plot. Look at the trouble that France is having with its Middle Eastern and North African refugees. Your puny nation of 25 million will not have a chance, when the massive wave of third world immigrants flood over from the Eastern to the Western hemisphere. The United States was your hedge against this kind of invasion, courtesy of the Monroe Doctrine. You are already experiencing many of the problems with the minority gangs that have plagued our cities for the last 3 decades. May the female members of your family become merchandise for them to peddle for fun and profit.

    I thought, since people were talking about hoaxes, that I would bring up a genuine one. In spite of the belief, that you so dearly want to cling to, that I was raised to think the way that I do now, let me give you an example of what my parents tried to teach me. We sat down as a family (folks really did that back then) and watched the televised, miniseries “Roots”. We all were humbled and ashamed of our wicked ancestors and their wretched inhumanity. Years later, I found out that Alex Haley, who claimed that the book was based on his genealogical research, had plagiarized the work of another Negro author named Harold Courlander. It seems that Courlander had written a book called “The African”. Although, Haley claimed that he had never read the book. A university professor, whom Haley had studied under, testified that he remembered discussing the book with him when he was in college. The court found that Haley had essentially copied the plot, characters and scenarios and ruled in Courlander’s favor, rewarding an undisclosed amount of money. Part of the settlement stipulated that Courlander could not seek any further publicity on the case. This is one of the greatest hoaxes ever perpetrated on the American people and most are completely unaware of how they were deceived. I recently saw the book “Roots” on a shelf in a display celebrating “African History Month” in a school. I doubt seriously that the teacher who put it in there either knew or cared about the fact that it was the work of an unscrupulous, lying thief.

  • GENO: the_warrior1492

    Last night did not only signify a historic moment. But Barack Obama also made history by becoming the first African-American president of the U.S.
    He is a living proof that the U.S. Democracy is far stronger than what the critics love to believe in.
    But as a Native American, Barack Obama has also made another historic momentum. He became the only presidential candidate in U. S. history to visit the Indian Reservations in MT or any other “Rez” for that matter. Most notobly the Crow Nation of Montana where Mr. Obama was adopted by the tribe. It was honor and a new defining moment in American History for such a presidential candidate to reach out to the isolated Native voters throughout the Nation. It may also explain why Obama won this election “flawlessly” as stated by the mass media outlets. Is because Barack Obama has reached out to every ethnic group he could, in order to garner the much needed and anticipated victory our Nation was waiting for.

    God Bless Barack Obama.

  • Vicious V

    Thank you for those words of encouragement. It’s truly a blessing to hear comments from people outside the United States that actually get it. Unfortunately, our nation still has quite a ways to go with the hatred and racism. Maybe it’s time that we learned by the examples of people such as yourself. I’m sure Canada is proud of you. And hopefully, our nation can learn to respect each other’s differences and move on together.

  • Michelle

    This is more of a question than a comment. I’ve been getting a large amount of email (rerouted through my blog…not that I’ve given anyone my personal email address) that is threatening. At first, I just brushed it off as a few ‘nut-jobs’…but over the last couple weeks, it’s dramatically increased. Any suggestions?

    The emails come directly to me, as on my blog I have “comment moderation” set. I do not allow such things to be posted on my site. Yet, the increase has caused me some concern.

    Kindest Regards,


  • yunalesca

    As a Canadian, it is with absolute elation and relief to know that Obama is president elect with a landslide victory. He represents hope and change not only for America, but for the entire world. Although we cannot change the sad and ignorant views of those who would try to crush this hope, or snuff out his life, it’s a damn good day when those bastards are caught and thrown behind bars.

    Reading a few of the comments here, however, I am completely baffled by how people can blame deeply rooted economic and social problems on ethnic differences? Is this not as ignorant as the views of the white supremicists? I must say in comparison, Canada is a proudly multicultural country that celebrates differences in ethnicity but continues to stand strong; we have universal health care and education and by no means have our math or science marks suffered. I mean, we are divided by rival hockey teams but honestly, in the 21st century are people still touting race as the root to all problems? All I can say to that is, a house divided upon itself cannot stand.
    This is why, my friends, we believe in Barack Obama. He stands for unity, to break down the barriers between Republican and Democrat, black and white, and any other barrier you can think of, to stand as you should, the United States of America.

  • Cowtown Rebel

    Unlike many conservatives, I found last nights election results to be very encouraging. I saw a map of the country that looked like the Confederacy with a few states added on. Balack Osama is not the “Choice” for Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, Texas, Arkansas, Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, North or South Dakota, Wyoming, Kentucky, Tennessee, etc… This may open a larger chasm between the people who want to teach their children that marriage is a union between a man and a woman for the purpose of procreation and the people that want to teach their toddlers that it’s O.K. for “Heather to Have Two Mommies”.

    As for the “Protocols” being a hoax, who says? Henry Ford sure didn’t think so. He used to print excerpts in the Dearborn Independent.

    Some of the books that I have referred to here are books from a Jew Attorney; a Black Journalist, a Sociologist from Louisville State University and a play and a poem from two Zionists.

    And, if the decline of the United States doesn’t have any thing to do with ethnic differences, Why is it that we were the most prosperous, productive nation on Earth, until we integrated our schools and shipped our manufacturing jobs overseas? In 50 years, since Brown Vs. The Board of Education, our nations test scores in math and science have plummeted from being the highest in the world to be somewhere around 15th, behind Lithuania. Our drop-out rates have skyrocketed and our prison population continues to swell. Look at the drop out rates in Detroit, Los Angeles, Washington D.C. and in the Universities like Texas State University and Prairie View A&M, before you start attributing these statistics to a bunch of inbred, red neck, knuckle dragging, neanderthals.

  • GENO: the_warrior1492

    Notice the books Cowpuke Rebuttal is referring in here, shares a typical mindset commonly associated with mondern day radio/talk show hooey. It kind of reminds me of CNN`s Dobsey Award winning “Janus Faced” Lou Dobbs. The kind of dimwittery demagogues who likes to use fabricated exaggerations in order to galvanize some sort of petty revolution at their own discords. Because they probably felt rejected by the mainstream civil society to some degree. Like I said before, the authors he cites are one-sided, singled issued folks who could be compared to an angry dissent.

  • Vicious V

    Mark and cowtown,
    Now that Barack Obama has won the presidency and will soon be addressed as President Barack Obama, let us all hope that hate driven, dilirious people can quit quoting non-truths and come together as a nation.

    These two boys who were taught to hate President Obama and people like him, because of the color of his skin. There are more people out there, just like these lost boys that are just as scared and want to attempt that same sin. Just get over your fear of change, because it’s here. It’s been here. We’ve just opened a new chapter of change in America and the world. More and more races are coming together, working together and relating together. Cultures are becoming more tolerant of the differences in their lives and learning to disagree.

    The USA produces more Asian educators, Hispanic attorneys, Native American police officers, African American doctors and Middle Eastern judges. You have the chance to do your part, quit belly aching and be productive in the progression of our nation.

    We can go tit for tat with things that happened in the past, or the horrific crimes that happen across our nation. He did this, he did that. We all know what the “real” problems of our nation are. Particularly the things that touch us personally. Now let’s find a solution, that does not infringe on anyone’s civil and human rights.

    There’s only 1 God if you claim to be a Christian. When you play God, you get punished.

  • Vicious V

    The decline started in 2000.

  • Aslan Maskhadov

    The decline of the United States, like the decline of the Roman Empire, has little to do with internal cultural or racial conflict. Besides, as I said, an Irish American generally has more in common culturally with an African American than an Irishman from Ireland, just as an American-born Arab in some place like Dearborn is likely to be far more culturally American than someone who just got off the boat from Syria. And since people tend to behave based on cultural upbringing as opposed to various irrelevant genetic markers, that is what counts the most.

    Oh yeah, let me extend a hearty LOL at the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, a text that is a proven hoax, and contains many hilarious contradictions. I guess you believe Jews are behind the teaching of that awful evolution too right(so it says in the protocols). Guess that invalidates all that genetic “proof” of racial differences.

    As for recommending the Communist Manifesto, now we finally agree on something, though for different reasons.

  • mountaingirl08

    Wrong. There are few of the old major so-called “commie-socialist” type governments unless you are discussing N. Korea and the Chinese have leaned on them to be less aggressive, such as w. its nuclear program etc. “The Protocols of Zion” is a hoax and whomever quotes it as reading is either grossly misinformed or knows it is a fraud and doesn’t give a rip that it is phony. Or maybe the individual never lets fact interfere w. their hallucinations. And the Protocols is a piece of fiction quoted by racist xenophobes as fact.

  • Cowtown Rebel

    Decline….is a slow and steady process. The collapse of nations does not occur overnight. The Roman Empire, beseiged and wracked from within by foreign invaders and those of other ethnic backgrouds that it foolishly allowed to serve within the ranks of its military, such as Atilla the Hun, eventually succumbed to people who neither thought of themselves as being Roman, held any true allegiance to Rome or had any respect for its laws. It took over a thousand years for this dissolution to occur.

    Time passes much more quickly now, events transpire at a more rapid pace, wars are won almost overnight. I do not believe that our grandchildren will inherit a country that is intact. Some cultures, religions and ideologies are incompatible with one another. A review of ethnic clashes around the globe, on any given day, makes this undeniable truth appallingly apparent. Yet, we continue to disillusion ourselves into believing that we can incorporate the malcontents of the world and that they will check “THEIR” prejudices at the door and all will be as harmonious as that lovable old Coca-Cola commercial about teaching the world to sing.

    You people have simply had your senses discombobulated by the likes of John Lennon, Bob (Robert Zimmerman) Dylan, Paul Simon and, more recently, Madonna, Angelina Jolie and Bono. Are you familiar with Israel Zangwill and his turn of the century play, “The Melting Pot”? What about the famous poem, “The New Colossus” by Emma Lazarus? If you don’t believe that there are forces at work, with a Communist/Socialist agenda, then you are naive, in denial or have just been too absorbed with popular culture, sporting events and other trivial distractions. I recommend reading “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” and the “Communist Manifesto” for more insight into the goals and methods of the “Far Left Agitators”.

  • Mark

    backer242, Well said and thanks for serving our great country. God Bless.


  • backer242

    It is great to live in a country where we are granted the right to free speech. This gives me the right to ask why some “white” people assume that all people think like they do (I put “white” in quotation marks because I realize that the term is pluralizing and is as bad as saying that all “white” males are bigots, all Jews are rich, or all blacks are drug dealers – this use refers to those who self-identify as “white”)? I’m considered black even though I’m, more closely, of Caribbean descent – which is different – and also not an American by result of a slave ship, but by the free choice of my great grandfather – in fact, my great-great grandfather was a plantation owner, so there are all types of “blacks” just like there are all types of everybody else. I have absolutely no intention on voting for Barack Obama. I couldn’t care less what color his skin is and most, so-called, “blacks” I know don’t care either. He doesn’t have enough experience to run this country, in my opinion, and, it seems to me, he doesn’t address issues, he talks around them. But it seems that a lot of “whites” think he’s pro-black or all blacks want him to be president. OK, well, I don’t – so there goes the myth.

    All groups are made up of individuals and individuals make decisions that are, to various degrees, independent of each other. Further, the fact that these two citizens who clearly disregarded the law don’t want a black president is their business, as for any other free American. But trying to kill any American is a felony and a civilized society must have and enforce laws. At the same token, I think it’s silly for us to keep arguing about who’s in what race.

    As a nation, we’ve never been able to agree on what “race” is. This is especially true of “blacks.” Slaves and others catagorized as “black” came from different tribes that spoke different languages, had different forms of government, and different cultural norms. This is why it’s inaccurate to say that pre-colonial Africa was made up of warring nations. In the early part of the twentieth century, the meaning of “race” constantly changed to keep working class people separated and, therefore, politically weak. Therefore, “race” is a social construct and, hence, subject to the cooperation of those – considered the underclasses by the economically and politically powerful — who perpetuate it, ergo, participating in their own demise.

    I work with some people that are openly racist and, to be honest with you, as immature, unrealistic, impractical, and unreasonable as I think it is, I value their right to think for themselves (if only that’s what’s really happening). Sometimes, on rare occasion, we even hang out (ex. work Christmas parties). It works because they don’t disrespect me, and I don’t disrespect them. I also think it works because I make it clear that it will be a cold day in hell when some foreigner or enemy to our nation hurts a single hair on their precious American body. I am a veteran and can give a personal guarantee that what my American brother can’t handle, I will. This is why I can’t let “freedom” of expression extend itself to the murder of any American, no matter his/her political affiliation or so-called racial identification. It come as a surprise to know that I served with a lot of Americans (black, white, red, yellow etc) that carry the same sentiment.

    I am not a liberal, I am American veteran and educator.

  • Mark


    John McCain(is pro-amnesty for the 12 million illegals already in the country illegally) Ahh lets fix that number ….20 million is more accurate, That 12 million figure was years ago.

  • Vicious V

    Cowtown, you have the right to feel and believe whatever you wish. I am not arguing that fact. That’s the great thing about being American (USA). The fact of all this is, there is no such place where causcasions can live exclusively for the sole purpose of preserving the white race, other than private owned lands. If you are fortunate enough to acquire such a magnitude of land, hey good for you and your cause. The key word is private. Even the most remote parts of Wyoming can not legally stop non-whites from residing in those places.

    In the past, and present, all races have resorted to terrorism to dissuade other races from “moving into the neighborhood”. That is where the problem lies. I too have co-workers like you who make it perfectly clear where they stand with race relations. The mutual respect we have is not to disrespect the other’s personal space and beliefs. If you want to protect your family and loved ones from the potential of race mixing, I cant stop you from that. At the same time, if one of your loved ones has a different view of your, I’d only hope you would respect their views and not disown them. That’s where the division comes in.

    We may never agree, but at least we have the right to voice our opinions. I am not here to dis your opinions, just make comments on them. As far as me being “Flaming” I took it as a joke. I too have a sense of humor.

    Now let’s get back to the topic at hand, which was about the two mental cases that planned to kill a presidential candidate.

  • GENO: the_warrior1492


    “The slaves that time forgot” by John Martin

    That doesn’t seem to fit with your silly illusory beliefs that homogeneous societies are any better or worst. And if you look into the various stages in history that “Caucasians” have fought with one another as well as enslaving each other`s peoples over the centuries proves that your theories about homogeneous societies are inaccurate as they are refutable. Try reading real history and not the singled issued or the one-sided aspects of it.

  • GENO: the_warrior1492

    There are some typos I like to correct from my above posts and should be written as such>>>

    John McCain(is pro-amnesty for the 12 million illegals already in the country illegally)

    Mark if you possessed any rationale knowledge of the U.S. Constitution, which to me, that you do not. I am not sure why you bothered bringing up the Constitution on several occasions without quoting its legitimacy. I think you oughta go down to your local library and read the Constitution in its enitirety before citing the U.S. Constitution that you know nothing of.

    Cowpuke Rebuttal,

    I think you need to whip out your dictionary or simply go to this source:

    According to that source “demagog” which is a verb used without object:
    4.) To speak or act like a demagogue; also “demagog”.
    I believed “demegog” was using that handle as a form of mockery in referrence to all the Nazi mouthpiece and to show scorn of other hyperbole spewing wacknuts of the far right. I can see where “Demagog`s” handle is coming from.

    Cowpuke Rebuttal,

    You seemed to have a short memory about the dark history of your “Cauacasian” race and how they were enlaved by the people of the exact same color.
    Have you forgotten that King James II and Charles I had led a continued effort to enslaved the Irish?
    Also there was Brittain`s fame Oliver Cromwell who helped further this practice of dehumanizing of their own neighbors. There were more White Slaves embarked by Brittain`s slave trade long before Africans were enslaved years later. And here is the link:

  • Mark

    Demigrog, Call me all the names you want, it comes as the result of an axhausted mind and frankly I think it’s funny that you must resort to it.

    Aslan, First off I an not a Dem or a Rep (Ind) I want a full changing of the guards when it comes to these reps.

    Second, I can often be found at gatherings that deal with nothing but the Constitution that talk about how you lawyer left types try to iterpret the Constitution your own way. (trying to make it suit your mind set)

    Have a nice day

  • GENO: the_warrior1492

    And speaking of the U.S. Constitution. Ask yourself, which presidential candidates today is currently ignoring the U.S. Constitution???
    (The answer)>>>>

    Senator Old Man McCain.

    And here are the facts:

    According to the U.S. Constitution Article 2 Section 1 reads in part:

    “No person except a Natural Born Citizen or a Citizen of the United States at the time of adoption of this Constitution–;shall be eligible to the office of the presidency.”

    Sen. Juan McCain(pro-amnest for the 12 illegal aliens in the U.S.) is not a Natural Born Citizen.
    Juan McBush(R-Az) has been wrapped in controversy. He was born on Aug. 29, 1936 on a military base in the Panama Canal Zone.
    There is no exception made for persons born on a military base in a foreign country, even if one`s father is an admiral, or any other official. Should bar him from making his announcement for the presidency in the first place(2004 and again in 2008).
    The fact that he wasn’t born within the continental United States, as required by the U.S. Constitution, for anyone wanting to run for the presidency.

    Article 2 Section 1 states that very clearly with anyone with reading comprehensional abilities.

    Sure McCain served in the military and served 26 years as a Government Official.


    But that is not sufficient to make him eligible for the presidency according to our U.S. Constitution.

    John McCain has ignored our U.S. Constitution.

  • Cowtown Rebel

    Comrades, Thank you for re-inserting my comments.

  • Cowtown Rebel


    Deleting my comments only serves to prove that you are weak and incapable of withstanding criticism from someone who uses facts to confirm his position.

    It may interest you to know that I make HARD COPIES of EVERYTHING. So, even though you have deleted my responses to your GOON SQUAD. I have retained them to display to interested parties. So, that I can show them how the S.P.L.C. practices unwarranted censorship.

  • Cowtown Rebel

    This is an interesting forum, it seems comments get posted at random. When I last posted, there was only the response that Mark gave to the post preceding his. Now, magically, there are posts from Vicious (The Flaming) V; Aslan (The Defector) Maskhadov and Demagog’s (The Illiterate) Nightmare, in between them. Perhaps, it reflects the length of time it took for them to begin and complete a response?


    I don’t need some disgruntled, expatriated Slav telling me what it means to be an American. Hell, I don’t even consider myself an American. Anyone who manages to sneak across the border like a thief in the night or float ashore on a leaky raft can claim that trifling distinction. Are you familiar with the immigration quotas that were in place prior to 1965? Have you ever heard of the Chinese Exclusion Act?

    Apparently, you haven’t learned to recognize sarcasm. I am certain that you would be shot for being facetious in your native land. So, it is not something that you would easily detect. I knew some people from Bulgaria and Hungary that had the same trouble. I always had to explain to them when I was speaking in jest. So, I will extend the same courtesy to you…The comment about the Islamics endorsing Homosexuality falls into this category. Got that?

    Demagog’s (sic) Nightmare,

    Being no English Major myself, I typically refrain from correcting people’s errors in grammar, punctuation and spelling. But, seeing as you have had the audacity to do so, I will follow suit. You are only a nightmare to anyone who attempts to decipher your incoherent posts. “You’re third grade level lunacies exemplifies…” The word you should have used was “exemplify”. There are several other errors, but really, this is petty…lets move on, shall we?

    Balack Osama (Tee, Hee, Hee, Ho, Ho, Ho,…as seems to be all the rage)…has repeatedly stated that he favors giving amnesty to the estimated 12 – 20 million illegal aliens in this country. John McCain’t has said at various times that he is also in favor of this proposal. Both of these men are sellouts to Corporate and Special Interests. Balack is squarely in the corner of the “Open Borders” advocates.

    I didn’t bring up the Jerry Springer show, I responded to a comment made by a poster with the initials “S. P. It was they who interjected Saint Jerry into this discussion. Try paying attention, if you feel competent enough to debate this topic.

    Vicious V,

    You are mistaken, I have quite a number of friends. I get along with my co-workers. The Blacks and Hispanics that I interact with at work are generally aware of my political ideology and are comfortable with it. They often even give some indications of being in agreement. You mentioned the Indian Reservations. These were places that were given to them so that they could maintain their traditions. The Amish have an exclusive society. There are “Chinatowns” and a “Little Havana”. All I desire is a section of the country that is set aside for the exclusive use of Caucasians, so that we may preserve our unique cultural identity.

    Now for a little “Fun with Quotes”…

    “You and we are different races. We have between us a broader difference than exists between almost any other two races. Whether it is right or wrong, I need not discuss, but this physical difference is a great disadvantage to us both, as I think your race suffer very greatly, many of them by living among us, while ours suffer from your presence. In a word we suffer on each side. If this be admitted, it affords a reason at least why we should be separated”. – Abraham Lincoln

    “The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government”. – Thomas Jefferson

    “If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, then go home from us now in peace. we seek not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands of those that feed you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget the ye were ever our countrymen”. – Samuel Adams

  • Cowtown Rebel


    Boobala, The Grand Ol’ Party has been shredding the constitution since 1860. They are certainly the ones who are responsible for the demise of the doctrine of States Rights.

    However, where the Republicans left off, the DemoRats have continued the odious work. Take the “Separation of Church and State”. Actually, the paragraph that this insinuation is derived from is the first amendment; “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;….” You see, the key word in this amendment is CONGRESS. The thirteen colonies where all established with a particular denominational leaning. The Puritans of Massachusetts drove away Roger Williams, who in turn founded the colony of Rhode Island. They also expelled Thomas Hooker, who then proceeded to form the colony of Connecticut. William Penn settled Pennsylvania as a colony for the Quakers. After the American Colonies succeeded in gaining their independence from England, they elected to join together and to form a central government with limited powers. That is the reason for singling out religion as an area where Congress would have no authority. Each State, being primarily autonomous, had it’s own religious affiliations. So, when some Atheist starts to whine about the presence of the Ten Commandments at the County Courthouse being a violation of the “Separation of Church and State”, it just means that he doesn’t have any real understanding of the Constitution or the intentions of the Founding Fathers.

  • Aslan Maskhadov

    I was just thinking about that name, “Supreme White Alliance”. Kind of reminds me of taco or burrito supreme at taco bell. Oh well, I guess it was a better name than the “Group of Retards who Couldn’t Get Laid if They were the Last Males on Earth”, or GRCGLTLME.

  • Aslan Maskhadov

    Gee Mark, the guys who have been shredding the Constitution for the past 8 years are Republicans. At least it is they who have been initiating such moves.

    PS- Barack Obama is still not a Muslim.

  • Demagog`sNightmare(neo-con zero)

    Mark you’re third grade level lunacies exemplifies why you’re a poster child for a high drop out rates among snaggled-toothed dentally challenged knuckledraggers much like yourself. Try studying the Constitution and what it stands. You represent nothing to the contrary. And none of your posts signifies intellectual debates. Why is that???
    Because you as an inbreed are incapable of such civility. Its not worth to dignify your retarded comments with a response just so you`ll know. The only thing you’re good is at is merely drop to a lower pit and retort to infant mentality of name calling et al. That’s because you’re all desperate, despicable and could not cite any validities to your arguements. I know the truth hurts your little suscreptible feelings about Obama being our next president. You’re better off living as a troglodyte than to be a productive member of the American society.

  • Dennis Cast

    I condemn the racism.
    I condemn the violence.
    what theese people do there is no excuse for.

  • Mark

    What a bunch on liberal loonies, Talk about whining Aslan Maskhadov, you have that down pat! I smell a revolution folks and it smells good, lets kick the liberal loonies asses and get back to the Constitution! (remember the Constitution? That’s that thing that made this country great!)